Banksy Toxic Mary, Virgin Mary Print

[Daniel Silk]

Are you looking for Banksy Prints? Looks like Enter Gallery have just got a few arrive in -

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[Hendrix 69]

Looking for the above please DM if you have one for sale at a sensible price 
thanks

[mission]

Available 
Banksy Toxic Mary unsigned 
excellent condition 
COA 
framed 
Offers around £19,500

[brookvale]

Nice frame

[sevrin]

Jan 29, 2023 18:16:32 GMT 1 mission said:

Available 
Banksy Toxic Mary unsigned 
excellent condition 
COA 
framed 
Offers around £19,500

Pest Control COA?

[stuckeyc]

Strange. mine is stamped/numbered in opposite side

[The Italian One]

F****rch I paid 28k gbp a year ago for my unsigned toxic Mary ...

if I haven't one yet I would be all over this one

good luck with the sale

[cemltz]

Jan 30, 2023 4:27:58 GMT 1 stuckeyc said:

Strange. mine is stamped/numbered in opposite side

Not unusual or strange at all for these (or most) prints. They were done individually when sold/sent rather than batch processing...so no rhyme or reason to any of it. Left, right, both...sometimes edition number over/under, sometimes side-by-side...sometimes numbered in stamp sometimes not...

[stuckeyc]

I realized that POW was a fly by night operation but didn't know there was so much variability. Thanks for clarifying. GLWTS mission. This is banksy at his best imo

[met]

Jan 30, 2023 13:31:23 GMT 1 cemltz said:

Jan 30, 2023 4:27:58 GMT 1 stuckeyc said:

Strange. mine is stamped/numbered in opposite side

Not unusual or strange at all for these (or most) prints. They were done individually when sold/sent rather than batch processing...so no rhyme or reason to any of it. Left, right, both...sometimes edition number over/under, sometimes side-by-side...sometimes numbered in stamp sometimes not...

I'd be curious to see a Pictures On Walls print that is blindstamped, but with the edition number nevertheless added outside of the stamp.

Would you have an image you could share?

[met]

Jan 30, 2023 15:26:38 GMT 1 stuckeyc said:

I realized that POW was a fly by night operation but didn't know there was so much variability. Thanks for clarifying. GLWTS mission. This is banksy at his best imo

Inconceivable!



Mandy Patinkin in The Princess Bride (1987)
- uploaded by MrJeffooie





I've expressed my criticism about Virgin Mary / Toxic Mary in the past, and remain critical of the image.

In one instance, this led to what I consider an insightful exchange of views with @badrobot and sommguy — a back-and-forth which can currently be found on pages 1,143 and 1,145 of the thread, Your latest purchase?.

If that discussion may be of interest, see here* and here*.

[cemltz]

Jan 30, 2023 16:45:00 GMT 1 met said:

Jan 30, 2023 13:31:23 GMT 1 cemltz said:

I'd be curious to see a Pictures On Walls print that is blindstamped, but with the edition number nevertheless added outside of the stamp.

Would you have an image you could share?

Of course you would have to ask! Do the Trolley prints with both the heavy weaponry and classic POW stamps count?   Let me look around - I know there are "Laugh Now" and other APs out there with numbers outside the stamp, but may have to hunt around for a "standard edition". I have seen them. My challenge for the day.

[cemltz]

Jan 30, 2023 17:32:06 GMT 1 met said:

I've expressed my criticism about Virgin Mary / Toxic Mary in the past, and remain critical of the image.

In one instance, this led to what I consider an insightful exchange of views with @badrobot and sommguy — a back-and-forth which can currently be found on pages 1,143 and 1,145 of the thread, Your latest purchase?.

If that discussion may be of interest, see here* and here*.

Realizing we are hijacking a legitimate for sale thread, one last snippet here..

Maybe a separate thread, if your interpretation and view changes when thinking about the image in terms of the more complete context it was often painted with - crosshairs, jet fighters, etc. :



As someone who has never really seen eye to eye with organized religion, I quite like the brutal and direct nature of the print, while still allowing for more subtle interpretations. That said, it (and Christ with Shopping Bags) has never been allowed out of my basement studio by my wife...

[mission]

A few offers so far … looking close to ask

[met]

Jan 30, 2023 17:46:15 GMT 1 cemltz said:

Jan 30, 2023 16:45:00 GMT 1 met said:

I'd be curious to see a Pictures On Walls print that is blindstamped, but with the edition number nevertheless added outside of the stamp.

Would you have an image you could share?

Of course you would have to ask! Do the Trolley prints with both the heavy weaponry and classic POW stamps count?   Let me look around - I know there are "Laugh Now" and other APs out there with numbers outside the stamp, but may have to hunt around for a "standard edition". I have seen them. My challenge for the day.

Not to worry. Thought you might have an image to hand, but no need to spend any significant time searching.

I suspect some might well exist, but have never seen one myself with either the Pictures On Walls Dot Com or the later P.O.W. Printmaking stamps.



Around the period the blindstamp was first introduced, one could envisage a situation where:

(i)  the edition number was applied first, possibly due to the person being in automaton mode and momentarily forgetful about the then-recent policy change; and

(ii)  upon realisation of their omission, applying the blindstamp afterwards, but elsewhere on the print (i.e. not wanting to risk going off-centre and mistakingly embossing over the number itself, as opposed to around it).

[met]

Jan 30, 2023 17:57:38 GMT 1 cemltz said:

Jan 30, 2023 17:32:06 GMT 1 met said:

I've expressed my criticism about Virgin Mary / Toxic Mary in the past, and remain critical of the image.

In one instance, this led to what I consider an insightful exchange of views with @badrobot and sommguy — a back-and-forth which can currently be found on pages 1,143 and 1,145 of the thread, Your latest purchase?.

If that discussion may be of interest, see here* and here*.

Realizing we are hijacking a legitimate for sale thread, one last snippet here..

Maybe a separate thread, if your interpretation and view changes when thinking about the image in terms of the more complete context it was often painted with - crosshairs, jet fighters, etc. :



As someone who has never really seen eye to eye with organized religion, I quite like the brutal and direct nature of the print, while still allowing for more subtle interpretations. That said, it (and Christ with Shopping Bags) has never been allowed out of my basement studio by my wife...

To my mind and eyes, that one is even worse.



Just as a minor aside, I would respectfully challenge two of your references:

(i)  "more complete context"

For me, the image with crosshairs and jet fighters is not necessarily more complete; it is just different. And conceptually less focused.

Banksy made the work simpler as well as far stronger by subsequently concentrating on Mary (whose purported virgin status I would also challenge) and the wee baby Jesus (whose name makes me think that at least one of his parents may have been Latin American).


(ii)  "often painted with"

This may be down to my own ignorance regarding the number of such pieces that were actually painted. Or just differences in our respective views about the meaning of "often".


__________


You mention "the brutal and direct nature" of the Virgin Mary print.

I would add "obvious" or "sixth-form level" in concept.



As for Christ with Shopping Bags, I see that piece as being on a completely different level. Still brutal and direct, but also a great work of art. And arguably reminiscent of some of the most memorable graphic imagery by Peter Kennard.

[cemltz]

Jan 30, 2023 19:24:35 GMT 1 met said:

To my mind and eyes, that one is even worse.



Just as a minor aside, I would respectfully challenge two of your referenc

(i)  "more complete context"

For me, the image with crosshairs and jet fighters is not necessarily more complete; it is just different. And conceptually less focused.

Banksy made the work simpler as well as far stronger by subsequently concentrating on Mary (whose purported virgin status I would also challenge) and the wee baby Jesus (whose name makes me think that at least one of his parents may have been Latin American).


(ii)  "often painted with"

This may be down to my own ignorance regarding the number of such pieces that were actually painted. Or just differences in our respective views about the meaning of "often".

The beauty of art! (Even Banksy "art!) Everything in the eye of the beholder.

As for the "context" and "often" comments: when not constrained by the real estate or the process offered up by prints on paper, the "Virgin Mary" painting done with spray cans and stencil generally had explicit war references.
- The initial large board versions made prior to Turf War had cross hairs and jets.
- At Turf War 3 of the 4 had bombs and jets.
- In Sydney the massive street version was completely surrounded by bombs. Etc.

For me, this "additional context" allows for a third obvious or blatant or shallow interpretation:
1) Organized religion is bad.
2) To quote the artist, himself: "A lot of mothers will do anything for their children, except let them be themselves."
3) All the love and care we give our children to protect them when they are young is really just raising them to be a part of the war industrial machine in which we live...

Third options is less the mother intentionally poisoning the child - more that she is part of (or representative of) a bigger system...slightly more friendly, less brutal view...

Back to the sale!  

[met]

Jan 30, 2023 20:46:45 GMT 1 cemltz said:

Jan 30, 2023 19:24:35 GMT 1 met said:

To my mind and eyes, that one is even worse.



Just as a minor aside, I would respectfully challenge two of your referenc

(i)  "more complete context"

For me, the image with crosshairs and jet fighters is not necessarily more complete; it is just different. And conceptually less focused.

Banksy made the work simpler as well as far stronger by subsequently concentrating on Mary (whose purported virgin status I would also challenge) and the wee baby Jesus (whose name makes me think that at least one of his parents may have been Latin American).


(ii)  "often painted with"

This may be down to my own ignorance regarding the number of such pieces that were actually painted. Or just differences in our respective views about the meaning of "often".

[...]

The beauty of art! (Even Banksy "art!) Everything in the eye of the beholder.

As for the "context" and "often" comments: when not constrained by the real estate or the process offered up by prints on paper, the "Virgin Mary" painting done with spray cans and stencil generally had explicit war references.
- The initial large board versions made prior to Turf War had cross hairs and jets.
- At Turf War 3 of the 4 had bombs and jets.
- In Sydney the massive street version was completely surrounded by bombs. Etc.

For me, this "additional context" allows for a third obvious or blatant or shallow interpretation:
1) Organized religion is bad.
2) To quote the artist, himself: "A lot of mothers will do anything for their children, except let them be themselves."
3) All the love and care we give our children to protect them when they are young is really just raising them to be a part of the war industrial machine in which we live...

Third options is less the mother intentionally poisoning the child - more that she is part of (or representative of) a bigger system...slightly more friendly, less brutal view...

Back to the sale!  

Curiosity piqued.

I was familiar with only one double or mirrored Virgin Mary with the crosshairs and jet fighters from Turf War. A large piece on cardboard.

Have you seen more of these that were exhibited at the 2003 show?

[It is possible that additional originals were made, perhaps as part of a series to sell to different interested collectors, but I myself don't recall more than one having actually been on display.]



Anecdotally, the other large-scale Virgin Mary I saw at the show — prominently placed by the entrance and also on cardboard, but without the crosshairs and jet fighters — is the original painting and source image for the POW screen-prints:



Photo by Alan Denney

[apprint]

if you have one with COA in Mint conditions

DM me price

thanks

[Coffee and Art]

Hello, 

Looking to purchase a signed Toxic Mary Banksy Print. Please Pm with any available.

Thanks! 

[Coffee and Art]

Bump

[Daniel Silk]

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[billybob1969]

As titledI am looking for the above, TM needs to be in good condition with pest control. Will consider most Souls subject to pricing. DM if you have anything. Thanks 

[LJCal]

Looking for an unsigned Toxic Mary, must be in good condition with COA. Can pay £12,000. DM me 

[jonnyb]

Looking for-

Banksy - Signed rats.
Signed CND
Signed Toxic Mary.

[Razor light]

Looking for a Signed Banksy Toxic Mary 

[artlike]

Hooray, we've manage to find the one person out there!!

[Daniel Silk]

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[KIG96]

Hello, I am looking for an unsigned Toxic Mary. Please message if you have one. 🤞🏼🤞🏼