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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by shygetshigh83 on Dec 12, 2016 17:20:13 GMT 1, Relic 06 shipped.. can't wait to have it in hands!
Relic 06 shipped.. can't wait to have it in hands!
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by Deleted on Dec 12, 2016 17:54:59 GMT 1, Just had a message from Daniel saying 'I dont control the shipping charges, however I agree they were not right. I have asked eBay to look into it' perhaps they may be reduced ?! that comment leads me to think that the international shipping option was set to use ebay's international shipping which is hella expensive. items are shipped to eBay who then ships them internationally. if he just shipped internationally through UPS, or fedex, on his own then the shipping would not have been that much. the problem is that, for those who don't sell on eBay often, eBay doesn't make it easy to sell internationally without using their shipping option. every time i've listed something i have had to manually turn off that option despite having it set to not use it in my settings. he probably had, or has, no idea... if he did then he wouldn't have made it seem that eBay is controlling the shipping costs.
Just had a message from Daniel saying 'I dont control the shipping charges, however I agree they were not right. I have asked eBay to look into it' perhaps they may be reduced ?! that comment leads me to think that the international shipping option was set to use ebay's international shipping which is hella expensive. items are shipped to eBay who then ships them internationally. if he just shipped internationally through UPS, or fedex, on his own then the shipping would not have been that much. the problem is that, for those who don't sell on eBay often, eBay doesn't make it easy to sell internationally without using their shipping option. every time i've listed something i have had to manually turn off that option despite having it set to not use it in my settings. he probably had, or has, no idea... if he did then he wouldn't have made it seem that eBay is controlling the shipping costs. This is his 6th relic and he deliberately picked Ebay to sell them on. If he still doesnt know how Ebay works and just hides behind 'hey man I didn't know' he's a whole lot dumber (or more of an asshole) than I made him out to be. |
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by ferg on Dec 12, 2016 19:38:47 GMT 1, Future relic 05 had separated bills, one for the relic & shipping and the othe one for the customs charges. So far nothing similar with this one, so i fear the custom charges might not be included this time... and that's not a good news... 
Future relic 05 had separated bills, one for the relic & shipping and the othe one for the customs charges. So far nothing similar with this one, so i fear the custom charges might not be included this time... and that's not a good news... tres expensive ! |
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by HRE on Dec 12, 2016 21:04:35 GMT 1, I contacted them and asked why the international shipping was so high. The have contacted eBay and are working it out. They will be in touch soon with to present a new option to lower the shipping cost, apparently.
I contacted them and asked why the international shipping was so high. The have contacted eBay and are working it out. They will be in touch soon with to present a new option to lower the shipping cost, apparently.
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by cutkillavince on Dec 12, 2016 22:15:28 GMT 1, I contacted them and asked why the international shipping was so high. The have contacted eBay and are working it out. They will be in touch soon with to present a new option to lower the shipping cost, apparently.
Let's hope, fingers crossed 
I contacted them and asked why the international shipping was so high. The have contacted eBay and are working it out. They will be in touch soon with to present a new option to lower the shipping cost, apparently.
Let's hope, fingers crossed
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by LAZAKY on Dec 13, 2016 7:53:07 GMT 1, I contacted them and asked why the international shipping was so high. The have contacted eBay and are working it out. They will be in touch soon with to present a new option to lower the shipping cost, apparently.
Same here!
Finger crossed for a refund!
I contacted them and asked why the international shipping was so high. The have contacted eBay and are working it out. They will be in touch soon with to present a new option to lower the shipping cost, apparently. Same here! Finger crossed for a refund! |
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by barryh on Dec 13, 2016 10:08:54 GMT 1, Gutted that, I couldn't afford to purchase due to the shipping costs.. but glad those that could are hopefully getting some kind of reimbursement.
Gutted that, I couldn't afford to purchase due to the shipping costs.. but glad those that could are hopefully getting some kind of reimbursement.
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by Aza on Dec 13, 2016 10:28:10 GMT 1, Why do these artists and print houses use things such as big cartel and eBay?
Surely they should spend some of their profits buying a proper custom web shop that is designed and can cope with their needs.
Doesn't make sense to me.
Why do these artists and print houses use things such as big cartel and eBay?
Surely they should spend some of their profits buying a proper custom web shop that is designed and can cope with their needs.
Doesn't make sense to me.
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by Fake on Dec 13, 2016 11:27:08 GMT 1, Why do these artists and print houses use things such as big cartel and eBay? Surely they should spend some of their profits buying a proper custom web shop that is designed and can cope with their needs. Doesn't make sense to me.
Handeling traffic... or the site will just crash...
Why do these artists and print houses use things such as big cartel and eBay? Surely they should spend some of their profits buying a proper custom web shop that is designed and can cope with their needs. Doesn't make sense to me. Handeling traffic... or the site will just crash... |
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by Aza on Dec 13, 2016 14:15:25 GMT 1, I used to run websites with traffic of over 1 million hits per day, this was quite some years ago and my hosting bill was not bad. Nowadays hosting costs are surely much much cheaper. They just try to do this stuff on the cheap rather than properly and professionally.
I used to run websites with traffic of over 1 million hits per day, this was quite some years ago and my hosting bill was not bad. Nowadays hosting costs are surely much much cheaper. They just try to do this stuff on the cheap rather than properly and professionally.
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by Aza on Dec 13, 2016 14:24:57 GMT 1, I used to run adult websites in the early days. Across all the free gallery pages I had, it was 1 million hits per day. And this was serving photos and videos, so was pretty bandwidth intensive. This was all done as an amateur from home. I couldn't afford for pages to be slow loading, everything had to be lightning fast.
I used to run adult websites in the early days. Across all the free gallery pages I had, it was 1 million hits per day. And this was serving photos and videos, so was pretty bandwidth intensive. This was all done as an amateur from home. I couldn't afford for pages to be slow loading, everything had to be lightning fast.
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by kernow on Dec 13, 2016 14:49:16 GMT 1, I used to run websites with traffic of over 1 million hits per day, this was quite some years ago and my hosting bill was not bad. Nowadays hosting costs are surely much much cheaper. They just try to do this stuff on the cheap rather than properly and professionally.
Unfortunately building and maintaining a system that can handle sudden surges in concurrent users, as happens with more popular drops, isn't easy or cheap. Inadequate infrastructure will just fall over, as seen with the d-face drop the other day. Given the option of rolling their own (and all that comes with it) or using a relatively stable third party system for a nominal fee, it's a no brainer for most people.
I used to run websites with traffic of over 1 million hits per day, this was quite some years ago and my hosting bill was not bad. Nowadays hosting costs are surely much much cheaper. They just try to do this stuff on the cheap rather than properly and professionally. Unfortunately building and maintaining a system that can handle sudden surges in concurrent users, as happens with more popular drops, isn't easy or cheap. Inadequate infrastructure will just fall over, as seen with the d-face drop the other day. Given the option of rolling their own (and all that comes with it) or using a relatively stable third party system for a nominal fee, it's a no brainer for most people. |
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by randomname on Dec 13, 2016 18:50:06 GMT 1, Here's the earliest reference I could find if anyone cares. Posted to Facebook in 2010.
Here's the earliest reference I could find if anyone cares. Posted to Facebook in 2010. |
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by Spenie on Dec 13, 2016 22:24:22 GMT 1, 
Always did fancy one of his cassettes.
Always did fancy one of his cassettes. |
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by randomname on Dec 14, 2016 16:53:50 GMT 1, I mentioned the similarity on his Instagram. He said he did it first. Then deleted my comment and blocked me after I pointed to evidence of the contrary. Oh, and he called me homeboy. Haven't heard that one since the 90s.
I mentioned the similarity on his Instagram. He said he did it first. Then deleted my comment and blocked me after I pointed to evidence of the contrary. Oh, and he called me homeboy. Haven't heard that one since the 90s.
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by Deleted on Dec 14, 2016 17:00:55 GMT 1, I mentioned the similarity on his Instagram. He said he did it first. Then deleted my comment and blocked me after I pointed to evidence of the contrary. Oh, and he called me homeboy. Haven't heard that one since the 90s.
I mentioned the similarity on his Instagram. He said he did it first. Then deleted my comment and blocked me after I pointed to evidence of the contrary. Oh, and he called me homeboy. Haven't heard that one since the 90s. Guy sounds like a true dick. |
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by happyshopper on Dec 14, 2016 17:27:30 GMT 1, When did he do the Installation in the floor at Frieze London... that must have been quite a few years ago! First I saw of his work.
When did he do the Installation in the floor at Frieze London... that must have been quite a few years ago! First I saw of his work.
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by cutkillavince on Dec 15, 2016 6:49:01 GMT 1, I contacted them and asked why the international shipping was so high. The have contacted eBay and are working it out. They will be in touch soon with to present a new option to lower the shipping cost, apparently. Same here! Finger crossed for a refund! Did you get any news? are your relics shipped?
Still nothing on my side...
I contacted them and asked why the international shipping was so high. The have contacted eBay and are working it out. They will be in touch soon with to present a new option to lower the shipping cost, apparently. Same here! Finger crossed for a refund! Did you get any news? are your relics shipped?
Still nothing on my side...
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by LAZAKY on Dec 15, 2016 7:50:45 GMT 1, Same here! Finger crossed for a refund! Did you get any news? are your relics shipped?
Still nothing on my side...
Nope, nothing yet!
Anybody received a shipping confirmation?
Same here! Finger crossed for a refund! Did you get any news? are your relics shipped?
Still nothing on my side...
Nope, nothing yet! Anybody received a shipping confirmation? |
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by HRE on Dec 15, 2016 9:34:05 GMT 1, I got shipping notice and a reduced shipping cost. Expected deliver is the 20
I got shipping notice and a reduced shipping cost. Expected deliver is the 20
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by posterbob on Dec 15, 2016 10:11:48 GMT 1, All of my relics are now in hand, you should now have yours.
All of my relics are now in hand, you should now have yours.
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by cutkillavince on Dec 15, 2016 10:24:35 GMT 1, I got shipping notice and a reduced shipping cost. Expected deliver is the 20
I got shipping notice and a reduced shipping cost. Expected deliver is the 20 Nice, so how much were the shipping costs at the end? |
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by biggie on Dec 15, 2016 13:12:44 GMT 1, I mentioned the similarity on his Instagram. He said he did it first. Then deleted my comment and blocked me after I pointed to evidence of the contrary. Oh, and he called me homeboy. Haven't heard that one since the 90s.
I mentioned the similarity on his Instagram. He said he did it first. Then deleted my comment and blocked me after I pointed to evidence of the contrary. Oh, and he called me homeboy. Haven't heard that one since the 90s. Any comments he doesn't like, he deletes then bans. Guy seems like a tool tbh. I'm selling the rest of my relics after this last release SaveSave |
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by shygetshigh83 on Dec 15, 2016 14:53:08 GMT 1, I mentioned the similarity on his Instagram. He said he did it first. Then deleted my comment and blocked me after I pointed to evidence of the contrary. Oh, and he called me homeboy. Haven't heard that one since the 90s. Any comments he doesn't like, he deletes then bans. Guy seems like a tool tbh. I'm selling the rest of my relics after this last release SaveSave
I mentioned the similarity on his Instagram. He said he did it first. Then deleted my comment and blocked me after I pointed to evidence of the contrary. Oh, and he called me homeboy. Haven't heard that one since the 90s. Any comments he doesn't like, he deletes then bans. Guy seems like a tool tbh. I'm selling the rest of my relics after this last release SaveSaveIf you sell the Relic 02 (the camera) let me know. |
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by randomname on Dec 15, 2016 16:51:23 GMT 1, I mentioned the similarity on his Instagram. He said he did it first. Then deleted my comment and blocked me after I pointed to evidence of the contrary. Oh, and he called me homeboy. Haven't heard that one since the 90s. Any comments he doesn't like, he deletes then bans. Guy seems like a tool tbh. I'm selling the rest of my relics after this last release SaveSave
Yep. Seemed like a bit of a cünt. As far as his work goes, it looks like style over substance. Trying to be conceptual with other people's concepts.
I mentioned the similarity on his Instagram. He said he did it first. Then deleted my comment and blocked me after I pointed to evidence of the contrary. Oh, and he called me homeboy. Haven't heard that one since the 90s. Any comments he doesn't like, he deletes then bans. Guy seems like a tool tbh. I'm selling the rest of my relics after this last release SaveSaveYep. Seemed like a bit of a cünt. As far as his work goes, it looks like style over substance. Trying to be conceptual with other people's concepts. |
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by brazzy on Dec 15, 2016 17:06:01 GMT 1, Any comments he doesn't like, he deletes then bans. Guy seems like a tool tbh. I'm selling the rest of my relics after this last release SaveSaveYep. Seemed like a bit of a cünt. As far as his work goes, it looks like style over substance. Trying to be conceptual with other people's concepts.
Any comments he doesn't like, he deletes then bans. Guy seems like a tool tbh. I'm selling the rest of my relics after this last release SaveSaveYep. Seemed like a bit of a cünt. As far as his work goes, it looks like style over substance. Trying to be conceptual with other people's concepts. A lot of artists are c**t. If you let an artist's personality ruin their art for you, you are going to deprive yourself of a lot of great art. |
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by randomname on Dec 15, 2016 17:13:15 GMT 1, Yep. Seemed like a bit of a cünt. As far as his work goes, it looks like style over substance. Trying to be conceptual with other people's concepts. A lot of artists are c**t. If you let an artist's personality ruin their art for you, you are going to deprive yourself of a lot of great art.
The next two sentences after "cünt" would seem to nullify your response. If you take someone else's idea and claim it for your own, you're not making great art. Doesn't matter how pretty you make it.
Yep. Seemed like a bit of a cünt. As far as his work goes, it looks like style over substance. Trying to be conceptual with other people's concepts. A lot of artists are c**t. If you let an artist's personality ruin their art for you, you are going to deprive yourself of a lot of great art. The next two sentences after "cünt" would seem to nullify your response. If you take someone else's idea and claim it for your own, you're not making great art. Doesn't matter how pretty you make it. |
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Daniel Arsham Future Relic 06, by dundun on Dec 15, 2016 17:28:08 GMT 1, A lot of artists are c**t. If you let an artist's personality ruin their art for you, you are going to deprive yourself of a lot of great art. The next two sentences after "cünt" would seem to nullify your response. If you take someone else's idea and claim it for your own, you're not making great art. Doesn't matter how pretty you make it.
I'd argue that Daniel's take on these is much more succinct and relevant than the other metal ones. IMO casting those in metal loses the desired affect and they're really not good(even the Stipe ones).
A lot of artists are c**t. If you let an artist's personality ruin their art for you, you are going to deprive yourself of a lot of great art. The next two sentences after "cünt" would seem to nullify your response. If you take someone else's idea and claim it for your own, you're not making great art. Doesn't matter how pretty you make it. Completely disagree. Art isn't just about ideas. It's just as much about execution. Does KAWS have great ideas? Not really(and I'm the hugest fan), but his execution is flawless. Could say this for about pretty much every single artist if you want to nitpick. I'd argue that Daniel's take on these is much more succinct and relevant than the other metal ones. IMO casting those in metal loses the desired affect and they're really not good(even the Stipe ones). |
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