[Happy Shopper]

Just got the price list... fairly stupid prices IMO... There were far better Hockney prints available at the London Print Fair a few weeks ago... real classics for less !

[Gentle Mental]

And 98k us for the 2meters. Cheap for a huge small Ed Hockney. Inkjet is the only worry.

But that is the right medium no?

[Hubble Bubble]

May 8, 2014 12:37:11 GMT 1 Winter said:

That's pretty much exactly what I said

Spot on

[me7777]

Little Hockney exhibition starting in Harrogate on Saturday!
www.redhouseoriginals.com/exhibitions/david-hockney-print-room

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can anyone send me prices? or list them pretty please?
thanks

[artell]

The RA show was great so there is no doubt these will be excellent in the flesh. Huge pieces as well, they will certainly brighten up a front room! Can't help thinking thinking that for those kind of prices you'd want more than an inkjet/giclee print though.

[Deleted]

Im selling my Hockney print to purchase something else...if this is anyones cup of tea then PM me for better images etc..PS im asking over £16000 for this
these sold out instantly as did the next series at £18000
will accept Banksy prints only as trade/part trade
thanks


David Hockney
The Arrival of Spring in Woldgate, East Yorkshire in 2011 (twenty eleven) - 22 March (2011)
iPad drawing printed on paper, edition of 25 signed and numbered
140x105cm in artists frame
Mint condition

[Hubble Bubble]

Very nice Dr J… quite the opposite of 'urban' but top quality, all the same
GLWTS

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indeed !
thanks mate

[meh.]

it's sub-urban ;o)

[ferg]

Sorry whose Hockney ?

[Acme Thunderer]

Neither as it is Damien Hirst. Obviously I prefer Banksy though.

Numbers through doors doesn't define popularity and exhibitions were different lengths so cannot compare. Plus Dismaland wasn't a solo show and a lot of us went more than once!

[Black Apple Art]

Sept 27, 2015 19:38:59 GMT 1 @niceguyg said:

Following the overwhelming success of Banksy's Dismaland, the BBC ran a brief feature today comparing the event to other record breaking exhibitions / art shows in recent years.

"Banksy's Dismaland brought in ~£20million to the local economy and attracted ~4,500 visitors/day (150,000 in total) (restricted by venue capacity) and many more probably would have gone if they could have. There have been more than 300,000 tweets globally relating to Dismaland.

In comparison, around 3,500 people per day went to the V&A's record-breaking exhibition of fashion designer Alexander McQueen in London earlier this year.


And the most popular exhibition in the history of The Tate - last year's Henri Matisse show - had 3,907 per day.


But when David Hockney exhibited at the Royal Academy in 2012, he attracted 7,512 a day.


Which begs the question - who is Britain's most popular living artist - Banksy or Hockney?"

When the Tate and Mr B finally come to terms and have a proper exhibition, it will far exceed the attendance of any previous single artist exhibition in history. 

[Hubble Bubble]

Sept 27, 2015 20:03:12 GMT 1 ferg said:

Sorry whose Hockney ?

Here you go mate... Some bedtime reading courtesy of Wikipedia ...

In 1967, Hockney's painting, Peter Getting Out Of Nick's Pool, won the John Moores Painting Prize at the Walker Art Gallery in Liverpool. Hockney was offered a knighthood in 1990 but declined, before accepting an Order of Merit in January 2012.[47][48] He was awarded The Royal Photographic Society's Progress medal in 1988[49] and the Special 150th Anniversary Medal and Honorary Fellowship (HonFRPS) in recognition of a sustained, significant contribution to the art of photography in 2003.[50][51] He was made a Companion of Honour in 1997[52] and is a Royal Academician.[53] In 2012, Queen Elizabeth II appointed him to the Order of Merit, an honor restricted to 24 members at any one time for their contributions to the arts and sciences.[26]

He was a Distinguished Honoree of the National Arts Association, Los Angeles, in 1991 and received the First Annual Award of Achievement from the Archives of American Art, Los Angeles, in 1993. He was appointed to the Board of Trustees of the American Associates of the Royal Academy Trust, New York in 1992 and was given a Foreign Honorary Membership to the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, Cambridge, Massachusetts in 1997. In 2003, Hockney was awarded the Lorenzo de' Medici Lifetime Career Award of the Florence Biennale, Italy.[54]

Commissioned by The Other Art Fair, a November 2011 poll of 1,000 British painters and sculptors declared him Britain's most influential artist of all time.[55]

[Icesay]

Sept 27, 2015 20:03:12 GMT 1 ferg said:

Sorry whose Hockney ?

Joke?

[ferg]

Yep

[darwin]

Banksy's show was held in Weston Super Mare, so pulling in those numbers is quite an achievement.  

All the other shows were held London.

As much as I love David Hockney, I really don't see him getting those numbers if he were to show in Bridlington.

[Hubble Bubble]

Banksy is popular, for sure.

I know this coz I'm a bloke from Lancashire and I have some of his stuff. My mum likes him too. So do my daughters. He's always in the news.

That Hockney fella though. He's from Yorkshire and, I hate to say it, but he's a proper legend. Been huge for over 50 years. Originals sell for $7.9 million. And yeah, that RA exhibition was in London-town. But thats a lot of admissions for someone who was an over 75 year old fuddy duddy at the time. I don't have a crystal ball but I'd be interested to see if the Banksmeister will be hitting those numbers in over 35 years.

They're both good though. Maybe we should rejoice in the fact that we have two world influencers.

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I think the 1997 Sensation exhibition drew big crowds and Hirst was the most recognisable thanks to Saatchi and the media.

Probably Banksy today because this is "the Banksy Forum" and his fans like him.

  

[Dr Plip]

Sept 28, 2015 15:56:57 GMT 1 @elviswarhol said:

I think the 1997 Sensation exhibition drew big crowds and Hirst was the most recognisable thanks to Saatchi and the media.

Probably Banksy today because this is "the Banksy Forum" and his fans like him.

  

Banksy's fans like him?? The f**kers!

[Deleted]

Sept 28, 2015 20:07:52 GMT 1 Dr Plip said:

Sept 28, 2015 15:56:57 GMT 1 @elviswarhol said:

I think the 1997 Sensation exhibition drew big crowds and Hirst was the most recognisable thanks to Saatchi and the media.

Probably Banksy today because this is "the Banksy Forum" and his fans like him.

  

Banksy's fans like him?? The f**kers!

       

  Hirst was the popular a few years ago and liked by the critics untill he decided to paint his own paintings and probably also when he had the mega auction sale at Sotheby's.

 He went the money route and churned out more and more dot and spin paintings and butterfly wings which look the same as antique Victorian tea trays and stuck two fingers up at the art world and viewers in a smuch as it is really all about money.

Whereas Banksy has gone for the lets make something worth seeing route.

   Hockney the cockney as he used to be called was not that mainstream in the UK but had the BBC and other connected entities promoting him hugely and his exhibition and English landscape paintings.

   Today, Banksy wins hands down in the most popular.

[Mirus Gallery Poesia]

Sept 28, 2015 20:28:09 GMT 1 @elviswarhol said:

Sept 28, 2015 20:07:52 GMT 1 Dr Plip said:

Banksy's fans like him?? The f**kers!

       

  Hirst was the popular a few years ago and liked by the critics untill he decided to paint his own paintings and probably also when he had the mega auction sale at Sotheby's.

 He went the money route and churned out more and more dot and spin paintings and butterfly wings which look the same as antique Victorian tea trays and stuck two fingers up at the art world and viewers in a smuch as it is really all about money.

Whereas Banksy has gone for the lets make something worth seeing route.

   Hockney the cockney as he used to be called was not that mainstream in the UK but had the BBC and other connected entities promoting him hugely and his exhibition and English landscape paintings.

   Today, Banksy wins hands down in the most popular.

Popularity is a pissing contest and really who cares who the winner of that is, maybe looking back in 30 years which exhibition will be seen as more relevant in historical terms. Trends and popularity wanes, where as history is far more unforgiving.

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History is being re written every day.

[darwin]

Sept 28, 2015 20:28:09 GMT 1 @elviswarhol said:

  Hirst was the popular a few years ago and liked by the critics untill he decided to paint his own paintings and probably also when he had the mega auction sale at Sotheby's.

 He went the money route and churned out more and more dot and spin paintings and butterfly wings which look the same as antique Victorian tea trays and stuck two fingers up at the art world and viewers in a smuch as it is really all about money.

Whereas Banksy has gone for the lets make something worth seeing route.

   Hockney the cockney as he used to be called was not that mainstream in the UK but had the BBC and other connected entities promoting him hugely and his exhibition and English landscape paintings.

   Today, Banksy wins hands down in the most popular.

Hockney the cockney?

Never heard of that one. David Hockney's a true Yorkshireman.

[italianstallion]

Hirst is the most popoular in the world. Then bansky and then hockmey. Who is the best is another question

[ABC]

Sept 27, 2015 22:39:21 GMT 1 darwin said:

Banksy's show was held in Weston Super Mare, so pulling in those numbers is quite an achievement.  

All the other shows were held London.

As much as I love David Hockney, I really don't see him getting those numbers if he were to show in Bridlington.

Such a valid point. I'd go out on a limb to say that a large amount of tourists visit the Tate, not because of the work on show, but due to it's location and purely because it's the "tate" I do however,  go in every time when I'm in the area to ogle the Pollocks on show so not sure now..

Let's face it though, Western is right out there in the sticks and for Dismaland to pull those numbers in is bloody impressive. 

I made the effort to visit, not for Banksy alone but because it was just so different compared to the normal run of the mill exhibitions. It was exciting to be part of it and it certainly got all the senses going for sure - I  came out having spent no or very little money, the money I did spend went into the café next door.  

His following is now global and after this will just grow for sure, added to the fact that he always seems to think about others (local economy etc) and IMO the greed factor doesn't seem to come across with his art. 

     

[lee3]

Sept 28, 2015 20:34:12 GMT 1 Mirus Gallery Poesia said:

Sept 28, 2015 20:28:09 GMT 1 @elviswarhol said:

       

  Hirst was the popular a few years ago and liked by the critics untill he decided to paint his own paintings and probably also when he had the mega auction sale at Sotheby's.

 He went the money route and churned out more and more dot and spin paintings and butterfly wings which look the same as antique Victorian tea trays and stuck two fingers up at the art world and viewers in a smuch as it is really all about money.

Whereas Banksy has gone for the lets make something worth seeing route.

   Hockney the cockney as he used to be called was not that mainstream in the UK but had the BBC and other connected entities promoting him hugely and his exhibition and English landscape paintings.

   Today, Banksy wins hands down in the most popular.

Popularity is a pissing contest and really who cares who the winner of that is, maybe looking back in 30 years which exhibition will be seen as more relevant in historical terms. Trends and popularity wanes, where as history is far more unforgiving.

Your comment is interesting to me as my knee-jerk reaction is to agree that popularity is a pissing contest and then I consider for a moment the fact that the two most popular visual artists of last 100 years were undoubtedly Picasso and Warhol.  Both had international recognition during their lifetimes and each were able to spark celebration and condemnation alike for what they were doing to the arts during their day.  I'm not comparing the bodies of work but there is no denying the simple commonality of popularity with both artists.  Which is a long winded way of wondering if perhaps popularity is far more important than my immediate reaction suggests?  

[Mirus Gallery Poesia]

Sept 29, 2015 16:50:10 GMT 1 lee3 said:

Sept 28, 2015 20:34:12 GMT 1 Mirus Gallery Poesia said:

Popularity is a pissing contest and really who cares who the winner of that is, maybe looking back in 30 years which exhibition will be seen as more relevant in historical terms. Trends and popularity wanes, where as history is far more unforgiving.

Your comment is interesting to me as my knee-jerk reaction is to agree that popularity is a pissing contest and then I consider for a moment the fact that the two most popular visual artists of last 100 years were undoubtedly Picasso and Warhol.  Both had international recognition during their lifetimes and each were able to spark celebration and condemnation alike for what they were doing to the arts during their day.  I'm not comparing the bodies of work but there is no denying the simple commonality of popularity with both artists.  Which is a long winded way of wondering if perhaps popularity is far more important than my immediate reaction suggests?  

Popularity is one of many factors that could go into why or what becomes of any artist, I'm not trying to dismiss popularity has having no place in the equation but its only a piece of it. For fans it is the piece that most people will hold high as why their artist is the best, when I dont see that to be the case in most instances. Your examples are great and attest to popularity playing important role, but there were so many real factors and real work that was behind those artists getting to that point. In our day and age it seems like we focus so much attention to the surface of things, instead of whats behind the artist and the work.

I think over time popularity plays a secondary role as an artists work will need to stand the test of time, and amongst the generation of painters he will be measured accordingly. Some of the most important artists of our time have no social media presence and their popularity amongst everyday people is non existent, yet they create work everyday that will be in museums, collected and part of history. Banksy will as well I am sure but each artist has his own way of doing things, and to me the work is above all what matters not their instagram following, or amount of retweets.

[BKBOI]

I think people also were traveling to dismaland on the off chance that Banksy might release prints to the public or get another chance like the one in central park.

[adewilliams]

Banksy wants it the most. Hockney made a few iPad drawing and the RA displayed them, Banksy put on a 5 week self funded spectacular including a fairytale castle. Banksy has the hunger and works harder than the rest. The McQueen and Matisse shows were also quite pricey.