[FЯ]

May 20, 2019 9:15:17 GMT 1 lv90210 said:

May 20, 2019 9:12:45 GMT 1 FЯ said:

Where have they confirmed it?

Like I said, if the buyer is on here and can confirm that I will help them.

Are you the winning bidder ? 

Bro, if you say that one more time... No i am not.

They have re-used the artists name again without permission in the listing which brings dis-repute as he is the printer of all stik prints. Can you not see the issue here ffs.

Nothing to do with you or me - i am just trying to find out where it was said it was a fake as (as far as i know) no brown walks had a coa - so are you saying they are all fake?

[lv90210]

May 20, 2019 9:29:00 GMT 1 FЯ said:

May 20, 2019 9:15:17 GMT 1 lv90210 said:

Like I said, if the buyer is on here and can confirm that I will help them.

Are you the winning bidder ? 

Bro, if you say that one more time... No i am not.

They have re-used the artists name again without permission in the listing which brings dis-repute as he is the printer of all stik prints. Can you not see the issue here ffs.

Nothing to do with you or me - i am just trying to find out where it was said it was a fake

1 - I am not your bro !!
2 - Stop editing your posts, when I quote your reply it picks up the original post #schoolboy
3 - He is the printer, correct - but he says this print is nothing to do with him (said multiple times now)

If its nothing to with you dont reply anymore, go and play with your sneaker bots.

IF THE BUYER IS OUT THERE - CONTACT ME - I HAVE ALL YOU NEED.........

[FЯ]

May 20, 2019 9:33:57 GMT 1 lv90210 said:

May 20, 2019 9:29:00 GMT 1 FЯ said:

Bro, if you say that one more time... No i am not.

They have re-used the artists name again without permission in the listing which brings dis-repute as he is the printer of all stik prints. Can you not see the issue here ffs.

Nothing to do with you or me - i am just trying to find out where it was said it was a fake

1 - I am not your bro !!
2 - Stop editing your posts, when I quote your reply it picks up the original post #schoolboy
3 - He is the printer, correct - but he says this print is nothing to do with him (said multiple times now)

If its nothing to with you dont reply anymore, go and play with your sneaker bots.

IF THE BUYER IS OUT THERE - CONTACT ME - I HAVE ALL YOU NEED.........

Its the fact they have re-used the name again to sell this one, when they were told the first time not to.

I will edit my posts all i want to if i need to add more info.

Why dont you post the info you have on here so it informs people. 

[lv90210]

May 20, 2019 9:36:29 GMT 1 FЯ said:

May 20, 2019 9:33:57 GMT 1 lv90210 said:

1 - I am not your bro !!
2 - Stop editing your posts, when I quote your reply it picks up the original post #schoolboy
3 - He is the printer, correct - but he says this print is nothing to do with him (said multiple times now)

If its nothing to with you dont reply anymore, go and play with your sneaker bots.

IF THE BUYER IS OUT THERE - CONTACT ME - I HAVE ALL YOU NEED.........

Its the fact they have re-used the name again to sell this one, when they were told the first time not to.

I will edit my posts all i want to if i need to add more info.

Why dont you post the info you have on here so it informs people. 

I hope this now gets taken further.

Lets think about this, the seller knew it was fake when Forum cancelled the sale and told he or she so. He or she then decided to use another back street auction house to go under the radar and sell it.

That is a serious case of Fraud there, someone should call the Police.

[FЯ]

May 20, 2019 9:43:41 GMT 1 lv90210 said:

May 20, 2019 9:36:29 GMT 1 FЯ said:

Its the fact they have re-used the name again to sell this one, when they were told the first time not to.

I will edit my posts all i want to if i need to add more info.

Why dont you post the info you have on here so it informs people. 

I hope this now gets taken further.

Lets think about this, the seller knew it was fake when Forum cancelled the sale and told he or she so. He or she then decided to use another back street auction house to go under the radar and sell it.

That is a serious case of Fraud there, someone should call the Police.

Well it is only fraud if it is a fake print, i believe it is a real print in terms of it being printed with the others (brown walks were tests i think) but had no documentation as stik only authenticated the editions.

The issue is that im sure Ryca told them the first time to f**koff and they have done it again. He should be really pissed by this. Really rank.

[lv90210]

May 20, 2019 9:50:22 GMT 1 FЯ said:

May 20, 2019 9:43:41 GMT 1 lv90210 said:

I hope this now gets taken further.

Lets think about this, the seller knew it was fake when Forum cancelled the sale and told he or she so. He or she then decided to use another back street auction house to go under the radar and sell it.

That is a serious case of Fraud there, someone should call the Police.

Well it is only fraud if it is a fake print, i believe it is a real print in terms of it being printed with the others (brown walks were tests i think) but had no documentation as stik only authenticated the editions.

The issue is that im sure Ryca told them the first time to f**koff and they have done it again. He should be really pissed by this. Really rank.

How can you call the print real if you have never seen it ?? or have you ? 

All I'm doing here is preventing some poor sod from wasting £5k +BP, i'm not sure what your motive is.

[FЯ]

May 20, 2019 9:52:22 GMT 1 lv90210 said:

May 20, 2019 9:50:22 GMT 1 FЯ said:

Well it is only fraud if it is a fake print, i believe it is a real print in terms of it being printed with the others (brown walks were tests i think) but had no documentation as stik only authenticated the editions.

The issue is that im sure Ryca told them the first time to f**koff and they have done it again. He should be really pissed by this. Really rank.

How can you call the print real if you have never seen it ?? or have you ? 

All I'm doing here is preventing some poor sod from wasting £5k +BP, i'm not sure what your motive is.

I dont need to see it, i was just informed that the browns don't carry coa. I have no motive, i believe Ryca is aware of this now so im sure he will post sometime.

[lv90210]

May 20, 2019 9:56:26 GMT 1 FЯ said:

May 20, 2019 9:52:22 GMT 1 lv90210 said:

How can you call the print real if you have never seen it ?? or have you ? 

All I'm doing here is preventing some poor sod from wasting £5k +BP, i'm not sure what your motive is.

I dont need to see it, i was just informed that the browns don't carry coa. I have no motive, i believe Ryca is aware of this now so im sure he will post sometime.

I dont believe the fault is with Ryca.

The seller who had it rejected at Forum Auctions has chosen to sell it again with another auction house.

[.dappy]

... so ... if the printer RYCA did them and Stik did not want them included as an AP/PP/test print to the edition and the printer is washing his hands of them ... how did they 'manage to leave' the printing house in the first place?

[lv90210]

www.lotsroad.com/lot-details/55369/stik-walk?sid=69aa89e57ae6ff5d86038f1abf944060

This is being marketed as an AP which is as worrying as all my previous comments.

[.dappy]

... well ... either Ryan RYCA sold it on or he didn't?

Brown screenprint over red, artist proof 1/2, provenance: private collector purchased form RYCA (Ryan Callanan), 111cm x 42cm, framed and glazed.

[Wearology]

Facts: 
1.  Not Signed on the print 
2.  Not authenticated by RYCA - the guy who would have printed the print  
3.  Not Authenticated by STIK the artist that would have created the image for the print 
If someone wants to buy this item knowing these facts as true, than coveat emptor.   

[rebate]

May 20, 2019 14:35:50 GMT 1 Wearology said:

Facts: 
1.  Not Signed, numbered or stamped anywhere on the print 
2.  Not authenticated by RYCA - the guy who would have printed the print  
3.  Not Authenticated by STIK the artist that would have created the image for the print 
If someone wants to buy this item knowing these facts as true, than coveat emptor.   

It is numbered, but other than that spot on. Ill add, its not something Stik would release with an imperfection like that to it either. He wouldnt put it into his market. 

[kindhearts]

I was the winning bidder. I will PM lv90210. I appreciate all the thoughts. I was a bit suspicious as lack of signature and the fact I once bought a handbag for my wife from this auction house, and it turned out to be fake. After reading your posts I havent yet paid them. Appreciate any help.
This is what they sent me regards authenticity:

Thanks for your interest in the Stik screenprint, which is in perfect condition.
All the documentation in our possession in this case, is a copy of the email exchange between our dealer and the private who bought it from Ryan Callanan – but unfortunately no actual authentication.

Having said that, I have no reason to distrust our source and the genuineness of the piece, which is a very fine and rare example, I’d invite you to come and see it in person.

[irl1]

May 20, 2019 21:01:56 GMT 1 kindhearts said:

I was the winning bidder. I will PM lv90210. I appreciate all the thoughts. I was a bit suspicious as lack of signature and the fact I once bought a handbag for my wife from this auction house, and it turned out to be fake. After reading your posts I havent yet paid them. Appreciate any help.
This is what they sent me regards authenticity:

Thanks for your interest in the Stik screenprint, which is in perfect condition.
All the documentation in our possession in this case, is a copy of the email exchange between our dealer and the private who bought it from Ryan Callanan – but unfortunately no actual authentication.

Having said that, I have no reason to distrust our source and the genuineness of the piece, which is a very fine and rare example, I’d invite you to come and see it in person.

1. If another auction house pulled it out there was a reason for this.

2. They sold you a fake before 

You don't need a 3rd, 4th e.t.c reason not to pay. 

If you keep looking for reasons to buy this you will find one. Its best to move on and keep your cash

[lv90210]

May 20, 2019 21:01:56 GMT 1 kindhearts said:

I was the winning bidder. I will PM lv90210. I appreciate all the thoughts. I was a bit suspicious as lack of signature and the fact I once bought a handbag for my wife from this auction house, and it turned out to be fake. After reading your posts I havent yet paid them. Appreciate any help.
This is what they sent me regards authenticity:

Thanks for your interest in the Stik screenprint, which is in perfect condition.
All the documentation in our possession in this case, is a copy of the email exchange between our dealer and the private who bought it from Ryan Callanan – but unfortunately no actual authentication.

Having said that, I have no reason to distrust our source and the genuineness of the piece, which is a very fine and rare example, I’d invite you to come and see it in person.

Sent you a message.

[FЯ]

The only person you need to ask really is ryca as they probably used his name without permission.

drop him an email.

[lv90210]

May 21, 2019 8:47:41 GMT 1 FЯ said:

The only person you need to ask really is ryca as they probably used his name without permission.

drop him an email.

So much concern.......

[.dappy]

May 21, 2019 8:47:41 GMT 1 FЯ said:

The only person you need to ask really is ryca as they probably used his name without permission.

drop him an email.

... so are you saying that he did not print the piece and then sell it on himself ...

[leebs]

Any ideas on a Stik mini canvas? Thanks

[kindhearts]

As a few people have sent PM's and I don't want anyone making my mistake here's a quick update regards the Stik print I bought on Sunday
Link from auction:
www.lotsroad.com/lot-details/55369/stik-walk?sid=d2069e1ba992f19f162cacb36aaf0b5d

LV90210 was right. it is a fake. so thank you LV for telling me. On his advice I contacted Forum auctions (where it was offered in January but withdrawn), Stik and RYCA.

I havent heard from RYCA, but Forum wrote back:
"You are correct we could not complete the sale as the vendor could not get hold of a certificate of authenticity and the buyer was not willing to continue with the sale based on our guarantee."

Stik wrote back:
Hi Mark.
Yes I just found out about this after the auction so not really Lots Roads fault. It is not in my catalogue and is not signed. It looks like a misprint, not sure what it is but its not on my record.
S

Stik then contacted Lots Road who sent me an email apology and cancelled the sale.

So I guess a lesson learnt - if it looks like too good a deal.....

Question is with the consignor. What exactly were you told by forum regards authenticity and when you went to Lots Road were you open regards the issues - surely if not is this fraud?

thanks for everyones concern and help

[.dappy]

May 22, 2019 19:28:30 GMT 1 kindhearts said:

As a few people have sent PM's and I don't want anyone making my mistake here's a quick update regards the Stik print I bought on Sunday
Link from auction:
www.lotsroad.com/lot-details/55369/stik-walk?sid=d2069e1ba992f19f162cacb36aaf0b5d

LV90210 was right. it is a fake. so thank you LV for telling me. On his advice I contacted Forum auctions (where it was offered in January but withdrawn), Stik and RYCA.

I havent heard from RYCA, but Forum wrote back:
"You are correct we could not complete the sale as the vendor could not get hold of a certificate of authenticity and the buyer was not willing to continue with the sale based on our guarantee."

Stik wrote back:
Hi Mark.
Yes I just found out about this after the auction so not really Lots Roads fault. It is not in my catalogue and is not signed. It looks like a misprint, not sure what it is but its not on my record.
S

Stik then contacted Lots Road who sent me an email apology and cancelled the sale.

So I guess a lesson learnt - if it looks like too good a deal.....

Question is with the consignor. What exactly were you told by forum regards authenticity and when you went to Lots Road were you open regards the issues - surely if not is this fraud?

thanks for everyones concern and help

... I'm glad that this has worked out for you in end ...

... so Stik does not even know what it is or where this print originated from (as it's not in his record or catalogue), although there are emails to confirm that it came from Ryan who is/was his printer and sold it as an AP of 2?

[lv90210]

Glad it worked out for you.

Going forward everyone stay clear of these brown AP’s.

[rosac]

nice work LV

[Poster Bob]

It's OK. RYCA sells a Stik a month. He'll be back to pounding out APs sooner than you know it.

[a4ster]

Can anyone help with the price of a Stik Sleeping Baby screen print with COA please?
Apologies if I've posted this in the wrong place, not very good at this forum stuff!

[white rose]

May 22, 2019 21:13:57 GMT 1 lv90210 said:

Glad it worked out for you.

Going forward everyone stay clear of these brown AP’s.

Not sure I agree with staying clear of the brown walk APs. I purchased one a while back, which was signed/numbered and included a COA. If I'm not mistaken the brown AP was a smaller edition compared to the other colourways and it was known as the 'big issue edition' because proceeds went to charity. Like them or not, Stik's brown APs in general have always been smaller edition runs.

[ryanoh1]

Jun 5, 2019 13:53:54 GMT 1 a4ster said:

Can anyone help with the price of a Stik Sleeping Baby screen print with COA please?
Apologies if I've posted this in the wrong place, not very good at this forum stuff!

£12k?? Total guess!

[white rose]

Jun 5, 2019 15:32:24 GMT 1 ryanoh1 said:

Jun 5, 2019 13:53:54 GMT 1 a4ster said:

Can anyone help with the price of a Stik Sleeping Baby screen print with COA please?
Apologies if I've posted this in the wrong place, not very good at this forum stuff!

£12k?? Total guess!

Sounds right to me.

[Deleted]

Where would we value a liberty AP in yellow?