singo369
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by singo369 on Jun 16, 2016 16:03:25 GMT 1, I'm selling my unsigned Napalm by Banksy with COA and the print is registered in my name
I bought this framed and stuck it straight on the wall until I found the time to get it reframed.
When I unframed It i discovered it was actually held in place using masking tape, about 3mm around the whole print! no tape was used on the back! I carefully peeled it off and the left, right and bottom came off fine but sadly the top of the print suffered some fibre loss, if you look you can see it clearly,in one area particularly, I've taken pictures and if you have a look at the whole print you'll see it isn't horrendous
Also the last picture before the COA is trying to capture the tape damage in the 3rd & 4th photo ,it can be repaired or framed easily to hide the small damage
Any questions please message me, forum references are available! I'm lucky enough to have a holiday arranged from the 22nd and not back until 3rd July but I will post promptly on my return!
.Thanks
I'm selling my unsigned Napalm by Banksy with COA and the print is registered in my name
I bought this framed and stuck it straight on the wall until I found the time to get it reframed. When I unframed It i discovered it was actually held in place using masking tape, about 3mm around the whole print! no tape was used on the back! I carefully peeled it off and the left, right and bottom came off fine but sadly the top of the print suffered some fibre loss, if you look you can see it clearly,in one area particularly, I've taken pictures and if you have a look at the whole print you'll see it isn't horrendous Also the last picture before the COA is trying to capture the tape damage in the 3rd & 4th photo ,it can be repaired or framed easily to hide the small damage
Any questions please message me, forum references are available! I'm lucky enough to have a holiday arranged from the 22nd and not back until 3rd July but I will post promptly on my return! .Thanks |
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brookvale
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by brookvale on Jun 16, 2016 21:40:30 GMT 1, What a shame it was framed so poorly.
What a shame it was framed so poorly.
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docean
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by docean on Jun 16, 2016 21:56:40 GMT 1, I've seen these sold for less with zero damage. how did you arrive at that price?
I've seen these sold for less with zero damage. how did you arrive at that price?
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singo369
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by singo369 on Jun 16, 2016 22:16:25 GMT 1, What a shame it was framed so poorly.
yes I was disappointed as you can imagine! It's not major but frustrating!
What a shame it was framed so poorly. yes I was disappointed as you can imagine! It's not major but frustrating! |
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singo369
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by singo369 on Jun 16, 2016 22:17:15 GMT 1, I've seen these sold for less with zero damage. how did you arrive at that price?
clearly your an expert and I have no idea?
I've seen these sold for less with zero damage. how did you arrive at that price? clearly your an expert and I have no idea? |
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Black Apple Art
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by Black Apple Art on Jun 16, 2016 22:45:36 GMT 1, singo369 sorry to hear about your print and if you don't mind I'd like to use your sales post as a reminder to all of two very important things to remember.
1) ALWAYS have your framed art de-framed and inspected before purchase or at the very least do it yourself immediately after purchase with the agreement if there is any undisclosed damage it can be returned (only if the seller is reputable and trusted). In my experience over the years I'd say close to 75% of framed B pieces had mounting issues that could only be seen when removed and 95% on the reverse and looked perfect framed. Some were even spray mounted and basically worthless but bought for full price to an unfortunate buyer.
2) Upon discovery of damage, especially adhesive issues, NEVER try to remove it yourself and take to a reputable restoration house. Not all adhesive issues are fully repairable but many can be safely removed with proper moisture and solvent application that only a specialized expert should do.
Good luck w the sale and hopefully something positive can come out of this to prevent others from ending up with a similar situation.
singo369 sorry to hear about your print and if you don't mind I'd like to use your sales post as a reminder to all of two very important things to remember. 1) ALWAYS have your framed art de-framed and inspected before purchase or at the very least do it yourself immediately after purchase with the agreement if there is any undisclosed damage it can be returned (only if the seller is reputable and trusted). In my experience over the years I'd say close to 75% of framed B pieces had mounting issues that could only be seen when removed and 95% on the reverse and looked perfect framed. Some were even spray mounted and basically worthless but bought for full price to an unfortunate buyer. 2) Upon discovery of damage, especially adhesive issues, NEVER try to remove it yourself and take to a reputable restoration house. Not all adhesive issues are fully repairable but many can be safely removed with proper moisture and solvent application that only a specialized expert should do. Good luck w the sale and hopefully something positive can come out of this to prevent others from ending up with a similar situation.
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by Deleted on Jun 16, 2016 22:52:52 GMT 1, singo369 sorry to hear about your print and if you don't mind I'd like to use your sales post as a reminder to all of two very important things to remember. 1) ALWAYS have your framed art de-framed and inspected before purchase or at the very least do it yourself immediately after purchase with the agreement if there is any undisclosed damage it can be returned (only if the seller is reputable and trusted). In my experience over the years I'd say close to 75% of framed B pieces had mounting issues that could only be seen when removed and 95% on the reverse and looked perfect framed. Some were even spray mounted and basically worthless but bought for full price to an unfortunate buyer. 2) Upon discovery of damage, especially adhesive issues, NEVER try to remove it yourself and take to a reputable restoration house. Not all adhesive issues are fully repairable but many can be safely removed with proper moisture and solvent application that only a specialized expert should do. Good luck w the sake and hopefully something positive can come out of this to prevent others from ending up with a similar situation.
Or............don't worry about it, and just hang the f**king thing on the wall :-)
This print was £75 new
The framing would have been more, its got a bit of character, thats all :-)
singo369 sorry to hear about your print and if you don't mind I'd like to use your sales post as a reminder to all of two very important things to remember. 1) ALWAYS have your framed art de-framed and inspected before purchase or at the very least do it yourself immediately after purchase with the agreement if there is any undisclosed damage it can be returned (only if the seller is reputable and trusted). In my experience over the years I'd say close to 75% of framed B pieces had mounting issues that could only be seen when removed and 95% on the reverse and looked perfect framed. Some were even spray mounted and basically worthless but bought for full price to an unfortunate buyer. 2) Upon discovery of damage, especially adhesive issues, NEVER try to remove it yourself and take to a reputable restoration house. Not all adhesive issues are fully repairable but many can be safely removed with proper moisture and solvent application that only a specialized expert should do. Good luck w the sake and hopefully something positive can come out of this to prevent others from ending up with a similar situation. Or............don't worry about it, and just hang the f**king thing on the wall :-) This print was £75 new The framing would have been more, its got a bit of character, thats all :-) |
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chads007
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by chads007 on Jun 16, 2016 23:06:53 GMT 1, This guide of damage wouldn't bother me. It's only on one side. Get a cotton museum mount over it.
This guide of damage wouldn't bother me. It's only on one side. Get a cotton museum mount over it.
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docean
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by docean on Jun 17, 2016 13:18:27 GMT 1, you're*
and anybody would know that it's a poor price. good luck finding someone drunk enough to pay that
you're*
and anybody would know that it's a poor price. good luck finding someone drunk enough to pay that
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tab1
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by tab1 on Jun 17, 2016 16:26:29 GMT 1, you're* and anybody would know that it's a poor price. good luck finding someone drunk enough to pay that
What would a good price be ? £1500-£2000?
It's so minimal I would get a guillotine and trim the edges ,
A lot of gwb have been trimmed and they still command a high price
you're* and anybody would know that it's a poor price. good luck finding someone drunk enough to pay that What would a good price be ? £1500-£2000? It's so minimal I would get a guillotine and trim the edges , A lot of gwb have been trimmed and they still command a high price |
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Quinnster
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by Quinnster on Jun 17, 2016 16:45:28 GMT 1, you're* and anybody would know that it's a poor price. good luck finding someone drunk enough to pay that What would a good price be ? £1500-£2000? It's so minimal I would get a guillotine and trim the edges , A lot of gwb have been trimmed and they still command a high price
NOOOOOO..... Don't trim it whatever you do.
Bignal could probably do somthing with the tape
you're* and anybody would know that it's a poor price. good luck finding someone drunk enough to pay that What would a good price be ? £1500-£2000? It's so minimal I would get a guillotine and trim the edges , A lot of gwb have been trimmed and they still command a high price NOOOOOO..... Don't trim it whatever you do. Bignal could probably do somthing with the tape |
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by Poster Bob on Jun 17, 2016 17:00:49 GMT 1, That damage isn't that bad at all. Don't let some jerks tell you it's worthless; it's not.
That damage isn't that bad at all. Don't let some jerks tell you it's worthless; it's not.
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by Coach on Jun 17, 2016 17:02:20 GMT 1, It might be worth sellers noting that anyone viewing on a mobile cannot see any info, including price, that is included in the subtitle box.
I'm guessing that is where the price is, as I can't see a price anywhere.
It might be worth sellers noting that anyone viewing on a mobile cannot see any info, including price, that is included in the subtitle box.
I'm guessing that is where the price is, as I can't see a price anywhere.
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Cornish Crayon
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by Cornish Crayon on Jun 17, 2016 17:03:06 GMT 1, Ouch!!!!!
Why did you choose to remove the tape yourself buddy!!?
Hope you sort it bud
Ouch!!!!!
Why did you choose to remove the tape yourself buddy!!?
Hope you sort it bud
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chads007
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by chads007 on Jun 17, 2016 17:06:31 GMT 1, This ought to have gone to a conservator straight away, but this is best window mounted anyway with thd white'border and straight edges
This ought to have gone to a conservator straight away, but this is best window mounted anyway with thd white'border and straight edges
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singo369
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by singo369 on Jun 17, 2016 17:11:28 GMT 1, Ouch!!!!! Why did you choose to remove the tape yourself buddy!!? Hope you sort it bud
Hiya, I know , I know! I was careful and both sides and the bottom came off easy, it was when I got to the top but I hit the problem. It's honestly not that bad, I'm just being honest and I'm getting the feeling most people really aren't bothered.
Ouch!!!!! Why did you choose to remove the tape yourself buddy!!? Hope you sort it bud Hiya, I know , I know! I was careful and both sides and the bottom came off easy, it was when I got to the top but I hit the problem. It's honestly not that bad, I'm just being honest and I'm getting the feeling most people really aren't bothered. |
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docean
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by docean on Jun 17, 2016 17:21:57 GMT 1, never said it was worthless, I just said it's worth less, than what he's asking.
never said it was worthless, I just said it's worth less, than what he's asking.
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 17:30:32 GMT 1, never said it was worthless, I just said it's worth less, than what he's asking.
...and that it was a poor price and only a drunkard would buy. So it's Friday night, with a bit of luck somebody will get hammered and the print sells, job done.
If the drunk buyer isnt looking to float it or stick it in his folio to look at once a year then 3mm stain will never be seen again, job done again.
never said it was worthless, I just said it's worth less, than what he's asking. ...and that it was a poor price and only a drunkard would buy. So it's Friday night, with a bit of luck somebody will get hammered and the print sells, job done. If the drunk buyer isnt looking to float it or stick it in his folio to look at once a year then 3mm stain will never be seen again, job done again. |
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RoboJ
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by RoboJ on Jun 17, 2016 17:34:53 GMT 1, I recently brought off Singo369 with great communication. Would certainly buy off him again. Wish i had the funds for this!
I recently brought off Singo369 with great communication. Would certainly buy off him again. Wish i had the funds for this!
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onetwothree
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by onetwothree on Jun 17, 2016 18:23:30 GMT 1, Who cares about that mount mark. Won't it just frame out?
Who cares about that mount mark. Won't it just frame out?
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singo369
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by singo369 on Jun 17, 2016 18:29:28 GMT 1, Who cares about that mount mark. Won't it just frame out?
Yes EASILY
Who cares about that mount mark. Won't it just frame out? Yes EASILY |
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 18:40:22 GMT 1, Good, this is good
Liking the vibe of this thread
Good, this is good
Liking the vibe of this thread
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 18:52:05 GMT 1, Another couple pints and im drunk enough to procure 
Another couple pints and im drunk enough to procure |
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nowayjose
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by nowayjose on Jun 18, 2016 8:51:11 GMT 1, I'm selling my unsigned Napalm by Banksy with COA and the print is registered in my name
I bought this framed and stuck it straight on the wall until I found the time to get it reframed. When I unframed It i discovered it was actually held in place using masking tape, about 3mm around the whole print! no tape was used on the back! I carefully peeled it off and the left, right and bottom came off fine but sadly the top of the print suffered some fibre loss, if you look you can see it clearly,in one area particularly, I've taken pictures and if you have a look at the whole print you'll see it isn't horrendous Also the last picture before the COA is trying to capture the tape damage in the 3rd & 4th photo ,it can be repaired or framed easily to hide the small damage
Any questions please message me, forum references are available! I'm lucky enough to have a holiday arranged from the 22nd and not back until 3rd July but I will post promptly on my return! .Thanks
I'm selling my unsigned Napalm by Banksy with COA and the print is registered in my name
I bought this framed and stuck it straight on the wall until I found the time to get it reframed. When I unframed It i discovered it was actually held in place using masking tape, about 3mm around the whole print! no tape was used on the back! I carefully peeled it off and the left, right and bottom came off fine but sadly the top of the print suffered some fibre loss, if you look you can see it clearly,in one area particularly, I've taken pictures and if you have a look at the whole print you'll see it isn't horrendous Also the last picture before the COA is trying to capture the tape damage in the 3rd & 4th photo ,it can be repaired or framed easily to hide the small damage
Any questions please message me, forum references are available! I'm lucky enough to have a holiday arranged from the 22nd and not back until 3rd July but I will post promptly on my return! .Thanks |
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nowayjose
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by nowayjose on Jun 18, 2016 8:52:16 GMT 1, Am I being a complete numpty....why can't I see the price???
Am I being a complete numpty....why can't I see the price???
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Sundowner
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by Sundowner on Jun 18, 2016 9:11:51 GMT 1, Fair play to the OP for being so upfront about the damage. I have had a couple of dealings with singo369 and it has been an absolute pleasure. GLWTS!
Fair play to the OP for being so upfront about the damage. I have had a couple of dealings with singo369 and it has been an absolute pleasure. GLWTS!
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singo369
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by singo369 on Jun 18, 2016 9:25:34 GMT 1, Am I being a complete numpty....why can't I see the price???
pm'd you mate
Am I being a complete numpty....why can't I see the price??? pm'd you mate |
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pinkerton
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by pinkerton on Jun 18, 2016 9:37:57 GMT 1, singo369 sorry to hear about your print and if you don't mind I'd like to use your sales post as a reminder to all of two very important things to remember. 1) ALWAYS have your framed art de-framed and inspected before purchase or at the very least do it yourself immediately after purchase with the agreement if there is any undisclosed damage it can be returned (only if the seller is reputable and trusted). In my experience over the years I'd say close to 75% of framed B pieces had mounting issues that could only be seen when removed and 95% on the reverse and looked perfect framed. Some were even spray mounted and basically worthless but bought for full price to an unfortunate buyer. 2) Upon discovery of damage, especially adhesive issues, NEVER try to remove it yourself and take to a reputable restoration house. Not all adhesive issues are fully repairable but many can be safely removed with proper moisture and solvent application that only a specialized expert should do. Good luck w the sale and hopefully something positive can come out of this to prevent others from ending up with a similar situation.
I am not saying you are wrong, but its quite funny that something is worthless if it can only look good framed on the wall, but not stored in an acid free sleeve under your bed...
singo369 sorry to hear about your print and if you don't mind I'd like to use your sales post as a reminder to all of two very important things to remember. 1) ALWAYS have your framed art de-framed and inspected before purchase or at the very least do it yourself immediately after purchase with the agreement if there is any undisclosed damage it can be returned (only if the seller is reputable and trusted). In my experience over the years I'd say close to 75% of framed B pieces had mounting issues that could only be seen when removed and 95% on the reverse and looked perfect framed. Some were even spray mounted and basically worthless but bought for full price to an unfortunate buyer. 2) Upon discovery of damage, especially adhesive issues, NEVER try to remove it yourself and take to a reputable restoration house. Not all adhesive issues are fully repairable but many can be safely removed with proper moisture and solvent application that only a specialized expert should do. Good luck w the sale and hopefully something positive can come out of this to prevent others from ending up with a similar situation. I am not saying you are wrong, but its quite funny that something is worthless if it can only look good framed on the wall, but not stored in an acid free sleeve under your bed... |
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Banksy Napalm Unsigned with COA, by djvlnt on Jun 18, 2016 16:02:30 GMT 1, It's is the new world of collectors that care this much about scratches, tape marks an so on.a few years back, focus wasn't like this. And look at the Warholds results at auction, the damage has to be really bad for having any affect on the end price. Like totally faded colours because of sun or so.
I wonder why people suddenly care that much about condition. I'm
Not judging anyone, because they are just a part of the market, but could it be because the new world of collectors arent the same as the ones buying the Warholds so we have determinate our own conditions? Because we started collecting back when we did not have any cash and a Banksy did cost 75£ and now we suddenly have bigger pay checks and really expensive art? Or because some people wants to make a bargain?
It's is the new world of collectors that care this much about scratches, tape marks an so on.a few years back, focus wasn't like this. And look at the Warholds results at auction, the damage has to be really bad for having any affect on the end price. Like totally faded colours because of sun or so.
I wonder why people suddenly care that much about condition. I'm
Not judging anyone, because they are just a part of the market, but could it be because the new world of collectors arent the same as the ones buying the Warholds so we have determinate our own conditions? Because we started collecting back when we did not have any cash and a Banksy did cost 75£ and now we suddenly have bigger pay checks and really expensive art? Or because some people wants to make a bargain?
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