sapi
Member
Posts: 108
Member Since: January 2018
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by sapi on Feb 2, 2018 19:51:17 GMT 1, just figured out that the V&A has collected 3 Blu prints:
--Gaza Strip
--Il Nulla &
--CMYK
anyone know of any other public collections with Blu's work?
just figured out that the V&A has collected 3 Blu prints: --Gaza Strip --Il Nulla & --CMYK anyone know of any other public collections with Blu's work? |
|
gd79
Member
Posts: 1,091 
Member Since: September 2015
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by gd79 on Feb 3, 2018 15:20:02 GMT 1, just figured out that the V&A has collected 3 Blu prints: --Gaza Strip --Il Nulla & --CMYK anyone know of any other public collections with Blu's work?
Great news. These are re rating sharp ish. Rightly so given the quality and lack of new supply.
just figured out that the V&A has collected 3 Blu prints: --Gaza Strip --Il Nulla & --CMYK anyone know of any other public collections with Blu's work? Great news. These are re rating sharp ish. Rightly so given the quality and lack of new supply. |
|
laughnow10
Member
Posts: 691
Member Since: February 2017
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by laughnow10 on Feb 4, 2018 20:14:52 GMT 1, price check on “Rennes” standard edition thanks
price check on “Rennes” standard edition thanks
|
|
hellfo
Member
Posts: 969
Member Since: December 2017
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by hellfo on Feb 5, 2018 9:26:21 GMT 1, Funeral sold on ebay at 425 pounds.
Funeral sold on ebay at 425 pounds.
|
|
sapi
Member
Posts: 108
Member Since: January 2018
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by sapi on Feb 5, 2018 18:54:43 GMT 1, Funeral sold on ebay at 425 pounds.
thanks hellfo for the record keeping. my best guess is this was a quick flip from POW closing sale a month earlier? doesn't look like "mad pricing" to me (someone got what long term will look like a great deal on a nice print).
when thinking about this work when it was originally released, it gave me insight into a possible meaning embedded in Ant Farm's earlier Cadillac Ranch (which i now reserve judgment on, and am curious to visit to see if it holds interest).
& there is also an "Il Nulla" print on ebay (closing in 29 hours, currently at 330uk). for me it is one of his weakest prints (although, as noted earlier, it has been collected by the V&A in London), but those prices with no more Blu prints on the primary market (and none coming is my best guess), will make a nice deal for someone.
Funeral sold on ebay at 425 pounds. thanks hellfo for the record keeping. my best guess is this was a quick flip from POW closing sale a month earlier? doesn't look like "mad pricing" to me (someone got what long term will look like a great deal on a nice print). when thinking about this work when it was originally released, it gave me insight into a possible meaning embedded in Ant Farm's earlier Cadillac Ranch (which i now reserve judgment on, and am curious to visit to see if it holds interest). & there is also an "Il Nulla" print on ebay (closing in 29 hours, currently at 330uk). for me it is one of his weakest prints (although, as noted earlier, it has been collected by the V&A in London), but those prices with no more Blu prints on the primary market (and none coming is my best guess), will make a nice deal for someone. |
|
hellfo
Member
Posts: 969
Member Since: December 2017
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by hellfo on Feb 5, 2018 19:20:47 GMT 1, In my opinion, the last sale of funeral was good for the buyer. But was not a fast sale. It tooks more than a week and a drop of 25 pounds from the original price. There were 20 observers. I think that the funerals listed at around 1000 or more will never be buyed. Il nulla has lower market prices.
In my opinion, the last sale of funeral was good for the buyer. But was not a fast sale. It tooks more than a week and a drop of 25 pounds from the original price. There were 20 observers. I think that the funerals listed at around 1000 or more will never be buyed. Il nulla has lower market prices.
|
|
sapi
Member
Posts: 108
Member Since: January 2018
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by sapi on Feb 5, 2018 19:25:00 GMT 1, ...Here are some ebay results from the last couple of months: WWT (unframed)HeadquartersTo save the best for last a Demos that went for just a little above cost price. Although judging by the picture, the condition of this Demos is questionable.
recent ebay sales of Blu--
WWT (unframed): sold for GBP 511 (~US$722), on jan. 13, 2018, with 5 active bidders
Headquarters (unframed): sold for GBP 389 (~US$549), on dec. 9, 2017 with only 2 active bidders
Demos (OG) (unframed): sold for GBP 355.00 (~US$501), on dec. 3, 2017 with no list of active bidders (so am guessing this was buy it now)
for me the upside is deals on some of Blu's work may still be found on ebay.
it took quite some time for all of Blu's prints to sell out on the primary market (which never made sense to me given how significant he is for post internet street art and how little work was available over the past decade, but i think it shows, in part, the value of working with galleries to promote sales -- which Blu chose to opt out of). i predict we may see more results like the above as folks who bought work to flip it do so (as with the POW funerals). over the longer term, though, as collectors seek to fill the giant Blu hole in their street art collections, these prices will be seen as the bargain that they are (given prices of parallel works by Blu's peers).
...Here are some ebay results from the last couple of months: WWT (unframed)HeadquartersTo save the best for last a Demos that went for just a little above cost price. Although judging by the picture, the condition of this Demos is questionable. thanks for the links samo , to keep these results on this board (since the ebay links may die)-- recent ebay sales of Blu-- WWT (unframed): sold for GBP 511 (~US$722), on jan. 13, 2018, with 5 active bidders Headquarters (unframed): sold for GBP 389 (~US$549), on dec. 9, 2017 with only 2 active bidders Demos (OG) (unframed): sold for GBP 355.00 (~US$501), on dec. 3, 2017 with no list of active bidders (so am guessing this was buy it now) for me the upside is deals on some of Blu's work may still be found on ebay. it took quite some time for all of Blu's prints to sell out on the primary market (which never made sense to me given how significant he is for post internet street art and how little work was available over the past decade, but i think it shows, in part, the value of working with galleries to promote sales -- which Blu chose to opt out of). i predict we may see more results like the above as folks who bought work to flip it do so (as with the POW funerals). over the longer term, though, as collectors seek to fill the giant Blu hole in their street art collections, these prices will be seen as the bargain that they are (given prices of parallel works by Blu's peers). |
|
sapi
Member
Posts: 108
Member Since: January 2018
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by sapi on Feb 5, 2018 19:44:37 GMT 1, In my opinion, the last sale of funeral was good for the buyer. But was not a fast sale. It tooks more than a week and a drop of 25 pounds from the original price. There were 20 observers. I think that the funerals listed at around 1000 or more will never be buyed. Il nulla has lower market prices.
i also see two other recent Blu sales on ebay
Headquarters (unframed): sold for GBP 650 (~US$918), on nov.28, 2017 with 1 bidder
WWT (framed): sold for GBP 720 (~US$1016), on jan. 6, 2018, with 11 active bidders
i do not think ebay tells the accurate value of art, particularly Blu (who is hard to search for given his name and also a niche market at this point), but appreciate the references (which show me the floor and that there is some ongoing interests). a lot of art (from these boards and across the entire art spectrum) would not sell well (or at all) on ebay.
In my opinion, the last sale of funeral was good for the buyer. But was not a fast sale. It tooks more than a week and a drop of 25 pounds from the original price. There were 20 observers. I think that the funerals listed at around 1000 or more will never be buyed. Il nulla has lower market prices. my guess is the seller bought the work from POW in december and flipped it within 60 days (which is a fast sale to me - but everything is relative). that there were 20 observers suggests that there is interest (but, in this case, i would guess many were other flippers with Funerals from POW waiting for their moment). i also see two other recent Blu sales on ebay Headquarters (unframed): sold for GBP 650 (~US$918), on nov.28, 2017 with 1 bidder WWT (framed): sold for GBP 720 (~US$1016), on jan. 6, 2018, with 11 active bidders i do not think ebay tells the accurate value of art, particularly Blu (who is hard to search for given his name and also a niche market at this point), but appreciate the references (which show me the floor and that there is some ongoing interests). a lot of art (from these boards and across the entire art spectrum) would not sell well (or at all) on ebay. |
|
sl
Member
Posts: 421
Member Since: September 2016
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by sl on Feb 5, 2018 20:56:25 GMT 1, In my opinion, the last sale of funeral was good for the buyer. But was not a fast sale. It tooks more than a week and a drop of 25 pounds from the original price. There were 20 observers. I think that the funerals listed at around 1000 or more will never be buyed. Il nulla has lower market prices. my guess is the seller bought the work from POW in december and flipped it within 60 days (which is a fast sale to me - but everything is relative). that there were 20 observers suggests that there is interest (but, in this case, i would guess many were other flippers with Funerals from POW waiting for their moment). i also see two other recent Blu sales on ebay Headquarters (unframed): sold for GBP 650 (~US$918), on nov.28, 2017 with 1 bidder WWT (framed): sold for GBP 720 (~US$1016), on jan. 6, 2018, with 11 active bidders i do not think ebay tells the accurate value of art, particularly Blu (who is hard to search for given his name and also a niche market at this point), but appreciate the references (which show me the floor and that there is some ongoing interests). a lot of art (from these boards and across the entire art spectrum) would not sell well (or at all) on ebay.
sapi thanks for posting this info here as well as some pics of his work. I too think a lot of his work is excellent and have grown to appreciate it. It was not my cup of tea when I first started collecting so passed on quite a bit. Loving the shark!!
Now missed headquarters on the pow drop. Would have rocked on my wall for sure. I had a chance to grab the other one from them simply refreshing but don’t care for the image and didn’t want to buy it to flip or hoard so passed.
I hope it went to someone who wanted to keep it but prob not.
In my opinion, the last sale of funeral was good for the buyer. But was not a fast sale. It tooks more than a week and a drop of 25 pounds from the original price. There were 20 observers. I think that the funerals listed at around 1000 or more will never be buyed. Il nulla has lower market prices. my guess is the seller bought the work from POW in december and flipped it within 60 days (which is a fast sale to me - but everything is relative). that there were 20 observers suggests that there is interest (but, in this case, i would guess many were other flippers with Funerals from POW waiting for their moment). i also see two other recent Blu sales on ebay Headquarters (unframed): sold for GBP 650 (~US$918), on nov.28, 2017 with 1 bidder WWT (framed): sold for GBP 720 (~US$1016), on jan. 6, 2018, with 11 active bidders i do not think ebay tells the accurate value of art, particularly Blu (who is hard to search for given his name and also a niche market at this point), but appreciate the references (which show me the floor and that there is some ongoing interests). a lot of art (from these boards and across the entire art spectrum) would not sell well (or at all) on ebay. sapi thanks for posting this info here as well as some pics of his work. I too think a lot of his work is excellent and have grown to appreciate it. It was not my cup of tea when I first started collecting so passed on quite a bit. Loving the shark!! Now missed headquarters on the pow drop. Would have rocked on my wall for sure. I had a chance to grab the other one from them simply refreshing but don’t care for the image and didn’t want to buy it to flip or hoard so passed. I hope it went to someone who wanted to keep it but prob not. |
|
hellfo
Member
Posts: 969
Member Since: December 2017
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by hellfo on Feb 5, 2018 21:28:23 GMT 1, In my opinion, the last sale of funeral was good for the buyer. But was not a fast sale. It tooks more than a week and a drop of 25 pounds from the original price. There were 20 observers. I think that the funerals listed at around 1000 or more will never be buyed. Il nulla has lower market prices. my guess is the seller bought the work from POW in december and flipped it within 60 days (which is a fast sale to me - but everything is relative). that there were 20 observers suggests that there is interest (but, in this case, i would guess many were other flippers with Funerals from POW waiting for their moment). i also see two other recent Blu sales on ebay Headquarters (unframed): sold for GBP 650 (~US$918), on nov.28, 2017 with 1 bidder WWT (framed): sold for GBP 720 (~US$1016), on jan. 6, 2018, with 11 active bidders i do not think ebay tells the accurate value of art, particularly Blu (who is hard to search for given his name and also a niche market at this point), but appreciate the references (which show me the floor and that there is some ongoing interests). a lot of art (from these boards and across the entire art spectrum) would not sell well (or at all) on ebay.
I agree, ebay is not the correct media to value artist, especially blu. But we don't have much more.
However, with "not a fast sale" I mean that the price is not a big bargain in the heads of the buyers. If you put a Rennes at 1000€,for example, I think that it will not last a day. But maybe I am wrong. Who knows, let's wait for a rennes, a demos or a cymk and let's see. (not at 15000€ of course  )
In my opinion, the last sale of funeral was good for the buyer. But was not a fast sale. It tooks more than a week and a drop of 25 pounds from the original price. There were 20 observers. I think that the funerals listed at around 1000 or more will never be buyed. Il nulla has lower market prices. my guess is the seller bought the work from POW in december and flipped it within 60 days (which is a fast sale to me - but everything is relative). that there were 20 observers suggests that there is interest (but, in this case, i would guess many were other flippers with Funerals from POW waiting for their moment). i also see two other recent Blu sales on ebay Headquarters (unframed): sold for GBP 650 (~US$918), on nov.28, 2017 with 1 bidder WWT (framed): sold for GBP 720 (~US$1016), on jan. 6, 2018, with 11 active bidders i do not think ebay tells the accurate value of art, particularly Blu (who is hard to search for given his name and also a niche market at this point), but appreciate the references (which show me the floor and that there is some ongoing interests). a lot of art (from these boards and across the entire art spectrum) would not sell well (or at all) on ebay. I agree, ebay is not the correct media to value artist, especially blu. But we don't have much more. However, with "not a fast sale" I mean that the price is not a big bargain in the heads of the buyers. If you put a Rennes at 1000€,for example, I think that it will not last a day. But maybe I am wrong. Who knows, let's wait for a rennes, a demos or a cymk and let's see. (not at 15000€ of course ) |
|
acortellese
Member
Posts: 140
Member Since: February 2016
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by acortellese on Feb 5, 2018 21:51:14 GMT 1, Dear all,
as you might have seen (we are all checking eBay for blu prints ...) there are 2 Il Nulla (UK and swiss) currently open for bids.
I have a concern that I wanted to share: one is signed left and numbered right with drystamp, the other the opposite (stil with drystamp with the numbering).
Do you know if Studio Cromie released them with those differences? They both seem legit, both have the drystamp and signature and the number 160 look very similar ...
Just to share if any one is participating in the bids: I have a copy of the print bought directly from Studio Cromie, and it has the numbering and drystamp on the left and the signature on the right.
Dear all,
as you might have seen (we are all checking eBay for blu prints ...) there are 2 Il Nulla (UK and swiss) currently open for bids.
I have a concern that I wanted to share: one is signed left and numbered right with drystamp, the other the opposite (stil with drystamp with the numbering).
Do you know if Studio Cromie released them with those differences? They both seem legit, both have the drystamp and signature and the number 160 look very similar ...
Just to share if any one is participating in the bids: I have a copy of the print bought directly from Studio Cromie, and it has the numbering and drystamp on the left and the signature on the right.
|
|
laughnow10
Member
Posts: 691
Member Since: February 2017
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by laughnow10 on Feb 6, 2018 22:10:02 GMT 1, price check on “Rennes” standard edition thanks
bump on price check standard edition “Rennes” + any out there for sale? thxs
price check on “Rennes” standard edition thanks bump on price check standard edition “Rennes” + any out there for sale? thxs |
|
sapi
Member
Posts: 108
Member Since: January 2018
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by sapi on Feb 6, 2018 23:45:55 GMT 1, price check on “Rennes” standard edition thanks bump on price check standard edition “Rennes” + any out there for sale? thxs
given that --
(1) a nice Rennes UV recently sold for $10,750;
(2) the original Rennes print is arguably as good as the UVs (and better than many of the UVs (where the color washes out the red heart and kills the print));
(3) but UV still is arguably superior as "unique" work with resulting premium;
(4) Rennes is clearly one of Blu's best collectible works (related to iconic mural, filled with interesting details & politically engaged humor); &
(5) Blu hasn't released prints (or other collectible work) for years (and it looks like he never will again (the shop page on his website is now blank & the artsh.it website he set up years back is now down))
-- $3000 for Rennes sounds reasonable to me (framed or unframed). i expect it will look like the bargain it is a few years from now (as right now it looks like Blu's secondary market, aside from prints recently dumped by POW, has significant demand without sufficient supply)
full disclosure: i have a Rennes original print and also a (nicer variety of the) Rennes UV print (& am also a true believer in Blu as a peer of Banksy, Os Gemeos, JR & Swoon - the allstars of post internet street art)
price check on “Rennes” standard edition thanks bump on price check standard edition “Rennes” + any out there for sale? thxs has Rennes for sale and is seeking 3k+ in this thread. given that -- (1) a nice Rennes UV recently sold for $10,750; (2) the original Rennes print is arguably as good as the UVs (and better than many of the UVs (where the color washes out the red heart and kills the print)); (3) but UV still is arguably superior as "unique" work with resulting premium; (4) Rennes is clearly one of Blu's best collectible works (related to iconic mural, filled with interesting details & politically engaged humor); & (5) Blu hasn't released prints (or other collectible work) for years (and it looks like he never will again (the shop page on his website is now blank & the artsh.it website he set up years back is now down)) -- $3000 for Rennes sounds reasonable to me (framed or unframed). i expect it will look like the bargain it is a few years from now (as right now it looks like Blu's secondary market, aside from prints recently dumped by POW, has significant demand without sufficient supply) full disclosure: i have a Rennes original print and also a (nicer variety of the) Rennes UV print (& am also a true believer in Blu as a peer of Banksy, Os Gemeos, JR & Swoon - the allstars of post internet street art) |
|
samo
Member
Posts: 1,043
Member Since: October 2007
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by samo on Feb 7, 2018 5:12:47 GMT 1, Some more ebay results:
1. Blu - Il Nulla sold for £410/~US$572/~€462 on 06 Feb, 2018, with 6 active bidders
2. Blu - Sketch Note-Book 2004-2007 hardback book with dust jacket unsigned
sold for £62/~US$87/~€70 on 27 Jan, 2018, with 2 active bidders
3. Blu - Sketch Note-Book 2004-2007 hardback book with dust jacket signed and numbered
version (limited to 200 copies) sold for £350/~US$488/~€394 on 25 Jan, 2018, buy it now
Most surprising result here is probably the signed Sketch Note-Book 2004-2007.
It almost sold for the same price as the Blu - Demos print that was sold on ebay in December 2017...
Some more ebay results: 1. Blu - Il Nulla sold for £410/~US$572/~€462 on 06 Feb, 2018, with 6 active bidders 2. Blu - Sketch Note-Book 2004-2007 hardback book with dust jacket unsigned sold for £62/~US$87/~€70 on 27 Jan, 2018, with 2 active bidders 3. Blu - Sketch Note-Book 2004-2007 hardback book with dust jacket signed and numbered version (limited to 200 copies) sold for £350/~US$488/~€394 on 25 Jan, 2018, buy it now Most surprising result here is probably the signed Sketch Note-Book 2004-2007. It almost sold for the same price as the Blu - Demos print that was sold on ebay in December 2017... |
|
hellfo
Member
Posts: 969
Member Since: December 2017
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by hellfo on Feb 7, 2018 8:28:15 GMT 1, bump on price check standard edition “Rennes” + any out there for sale? thxs has Rennes for sale and is seeking 3k+ in this thread. given that -- (1) a nice Rennes UV recently sold for $10,750; (2) the original Rennes print is arguably as good as the UVs (and better than many of the UVs (where the color washes out the red heart and kills the print)); (3) but UV still is arguably superior as "unique" work with resulting premium; (4) Rennes is clearly one of Blu's best collectible works (related to iconic mural, filled with interesting details & politically engaged humor); & (5) Blu hasn't released prints (or other collectible work) for years (and it looks like he never will again (the shop page on his website is now blank & the artsh.it website he set up years back is now down)) -- $3000 for Rennes sounds reasonable to me (framed or unframed). i expect it will look like the bargain it is a few years from now (as right now it looks like Blu's secondary market, aside from prints recently dumped by POW, has significant demand without sufficient supply) full disclosure: i have a Rennes original print and also a (nicer variety of the) Rennes UV print (& am also a true believer in Blu as a peer of Banksy, Os Gemeos, JR & Swoon - the allstars of post internet street art)
3000$ for standard edition? With all the other prints sold for less than 1000? .
I believe the rennes is his best piece too, but I think that 3000 is reasonable only for the seller.
bump on price check standard edition “Rennes” + any out there for sale? thxs has Rennes for sale and is seeking 3k+ in this thread. given that -- (1) a nice Rennes UV recently sold for $10,750; (2) the original Rennes print is arguably as good as the UVs (and better than many of the UVs (where the color washes out the red heart and kills the print)); (3) but UV still is arguably superior as "unique" work with resulting premium; (4) Rennes is clearly one of Blu's best collectible works (related to iconic mural, filled with interesting details & politically engaged humor); & (5) Blu hasn't released prints (or other collectible work) for years (and it looks like he never will again (the shop page on his website is now blank & the artsh.it website he set up years back is now down)) -- $3000 for Rennes sounds reasonable to me (framed or unframed). i expect it will look like the bargain it is a few years from now (as right now it looks like Blu's secondary market, aside from prints recently dumped by POW, has significant demand without sufficient supply) full disclosure: i have a Rennes original print and also a (nicer variety of the) Rennes UV print (& am also a true believer in Blu as a peer of Banksy, Os Gemeos, JR & Swoon - the allstars of post internet street art) 3000$ for standard edition? With all the other prints sold for less than 1000? . I believe the rennes is his best piece too, but I think that 3000 is reasonable only for the seller. |
|
gd79
Member
Posts: 1,091
Member Since: September 2015
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by gd79 on Feb 7, 2018 8:44:43 GMT 1, Scarcity has a value...
If someone wants a blu print, there are only about a thousand out there.
Scarcity has a value...
If someone wants a blu print, there are only about a thousand out there.
|
|
acortellese
Member
Posts: 140
Member Since: February 2016
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by acortellese on Feb 7, 2018 9:58:30 GMT 1, Scarcity has a value... If someone wants a blu print, there are only about a thousand out there.
This is true.
Anyway sometimes I think we are the secondary market for Blu. I would not be surprised that someone from the forum bought the Il Nulla and the unsigned copy of the book.
For my part I bought the signed one. I hardly resist when I can put together artist I appreciate and rare books. I "might" have overspent a bit, still I am very happy with it. And well, I did not buy the Demos at the same price cause I was on fxxxing holydays 
Scarcity has a value... If someone wants a blu print, there are only about a thousand out there. This is true. Anyway sometimes I think we are the secondary market for Blu. I would not be surprised that someone from the forum bought the Il Nulla and the unsigned copy of the book. For my part I bought the signed one. I hardly resist when I can put together artist I appreciate and rare books. I "might" have overspent a bit, still I am very happy with it. And well, I did not buy the Demos at the same price cause I was on fxxxing holydays |
|
hellfo
Member
Posts: 969
Member Since: December 2017
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by hellfo on Feb 7, 2018 11:11:45 GMT 1, Scarcity has a value indeed, and that value is lower than 1000$ for most of Blu prints, on a site like ebay, famous for having pumped prices.
My rock band cd are limited too, but they're not worth 3000$.The demand for blu print is higher than the offer, but at the right price. Scarcity doesn't mean "at any price"
Scarcity has a value indeed, and that value is lower than 1000$ for most of Blu prints, on a site like ebay, famous for having pumped prices.
My rock band cd are limited too, but they're not worth 3000$.The demand for blu print is higher than the offer, but at the right price. Scarcity doesn't mean "at any price"
|
|
sapi
Member
Posts: 108
Member Since: January 2018
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by sapi on Feb 7, 2018 19:21:06 GMT 1, Scarcity has a value... If someone wants a blu print, there are only about a thousand out there.
Scarcity has a value... If someone wants a blu print, there are only about a thousand out there. and what, 10000+ Banksys |
|
sapi
Member
Posts: 108
Member Since: January 2018
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by sapi on Feb 7, 2018 19:41:13 GMT 1, Scarcity has a value indeed, and that value is lower than 1000$ for most of Blu prints, on a site like ebay, famous for having pumped prices. My rock band cd are limited too, but they're not worth 3000$.The demand for blu print is higher than the offer, but at the right price. Scarcity doesn't mean "at any price"
we can agree that your rock band cds are not worth $3000 (and who cares - no one is here asking for current prices of those or countless other limited edition items). no one suggested scarcity means "at any price" (or even approaching Banksy prices ffs).
i haven't seen any evidence that "most" of Blu's prints sell for under $1000 (although maybe those that have gone to ebay for a quick sale did). ebay does not set value of art (particularly for Blu, who is hard to search for an a niche market) . i have seen secondary market seeking $1k-$2k for most of the Blu prints i have seen available (aside from POW dump/flippers & Il Nulla), reports on this board of parallel results (look up CMYK), and auctions getting similar results (and premiums for works like Rennes UV & even a damaged Demos UV).
that work doesn't sell immediately does not mean it is over priced (it just means it is not priced as bargain to move fast).
if $3000 is way too much for Rennes, where are the people offering it for less?
Scarcity has a value indeed, and that value is lower than 1000$ for most of Blu prints, on a site like ebay, famous for having pumped prices. My rock band cd are limited too, but they're not worth 3000$.The demand for blu print is higher than the offer, but at the right price. Scarcity doesn't mean "at any price" we can agree that your rock band cds are not worth $3000 (and who cares - no one is here asking for current prices of those or countless other limited edition items). no one suggested scarcity means "at any price" (or even approaching Banksy prices ffs). i haven't seen any evidence that "most" of Blu's prints sell for under $1000 (although maybe those that have gone to ebay for a quick sale did). ebay does not set value of art (particularly for Blu, who is hard to search for an a niche market) . i have seen secondary market seeking $1k-$2k for most of the Blu prints i have seen available (aside from POW dump/flippers & Il Nulla), reports on this board of parallel results (look up CMYK), and auctions getting similar results (and premiums for works like Rennes UV & even a damaged Demos UV). that work doesn't sell immediately does not mean it is over priced (it just means it is not priced as bargain to move fast). if $3000 is way too much for Rennes, where are the people offering it for less? |
|
hellfo
Member
Posts: 969
Member Since: December 2017
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by hellfo on Feb 7, 2018 20:47:10 GMT 1, And where are the buyers?
And where are the buyers?
|
|
aml
Member
alittle--->mla--->aml
Posts: 238
Member Since: August 2017
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by aml on Feb 7, 2018 20:54:16 GMT 1, And where are your cheap prints?
I'll buy Rennes, Demos, WWT and CMYK all day at $1K.
And where are your cheap prints?
I'll buy Rennes, Demos, WWT and CMYK all day at $1K.
|
|
laughnow10
Member
Posts: 691
Member Since: February 2017
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by laughnow10 on Feb 7, 2018 20:59:14 GMT 1, And where are your cheap prints? I'll buy Rennes, Demos, WWT and CMYK all day at $1K.
You would be overpaying for WWT @ $1K. CMYK (or the other 2) @ $1K would be a “deal” - maybe not Demos but definitely Rennes & CMYK. I’m no expert but have been watching closely for the past several months...
And where are your cheap prints? I'll buy Rennes, Demos, WWT and CMYK all day at $1K. You would be overpaying for WWT @ $1K. CMYK (or the other 2) @ $1K would be a “deal” - maybe not Demos but definitely Rennes & CMYK. I’m no expert but have been watching closely for the past several months... |
|
hellfo
Member
Posts: 969
Member Since: December 2017
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by hellfo on Feb 7, 2018 21:25:48 GMT 1, And where are your cheap prints? I'll buy Rennes, Demos, WWT and CMYK all day at $1K.
2 sales on ebay for wwt, 720 and 511 pounds, in the last month.
Are you the buyer?
And where are your "correct priced" prints?
However I am not saying that rennes (for example) is worth less than 1000. I am saying that funeral, wwt, il nulla, monkey, listed on ebay for around 1000€ (or more) are unsold.
I am saying that rennes at 3000 is overpriced, in my opinion. No need to argue. If you don't want to look at ebay prices, okay.
And where are your cheap prints? I'll buy Rennes, Demos, WWT and CMYK all day at $1K. 2 sales on ebay for wwt, 720 and 511 pounds, in the last month. Are you the buyer? And where are your "correct priced" prints? However I am not saying that rennes (for example) is worth less than 1000. I am saying that funeral, wwt, il nulla, monkey, listed on ebay for around 1000€ (or more) are unsold. I am saying that rennes at 3000 is overpriced, in my opinion. No need to argue. If you don't want to look at ebay prices, okay. |
|
sapi
Member
Posts: 108
Member Since: January 2018
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by sapi on Feb 7, 2018 23:38:31 GMT 1, However I am not saying that rennes (for example) is worth less than 1000. I am saying that funeral, wwt, il nulla, monkey, listed on ebay for around 1000€ (or more) are unsold. I am saying that rennes at 3000 is overpriced, in my opinion. No need to argue. If you don't want to look at ebay prices, okay.
Rennes is on a whole other level (large print, iconic Blu print of iconic Blu mural, lots of interesting details (i love the dog on the bed), politically engaged humor). the Rennes UVs are not that different from the original print (and plenty of folks prefer the original print to the UV).
hellfo thinks it is appropriate to price Rennes based on Blu's worst selling prints. i think reference to the UV, with some discount for difference, is more appropriate ($3000 comes in at ~28% of the Rennes UV sales price).
However I am not saying that rennes (for example) is worth less than 1000. I am saying that funeral, wwt, il nulla, monkey, listed on ebay for around 1000€ (or more) are unsold. I am saying that rennes at 3000 is overpriced, in my opinion. No need to argue. If you don't want to look at ebay prices, okay. funeral and monkey are from the recent POW closing sale and are quick flips (both are nice works and will be good pick ups for folks who are late to Blu). there was inventory of those on the primary market two months ago (and for 5-10 years before that), and so it is not surprising that they are not selling out quickly at $1000. il nulla and wwt are reasonable in concept but terrible in execution and will always lag Blu's other sales. Rennes is on a whole other level (large print, iconic Blu print of iconic Blu mural, lots of interesting details (i love the dog on the bed), politically engaged humor). the Rennes UVs are not that different from the original print (and plenty of folks prefer the original print to the UV). hellfo thinks it is appropriate to price Rennes based on Blu's worst selling prints. i think reference to the UV, with some discount for difference, is more appropriate ($3000 comes in at ~28% of the Rennes UV sales price). |
|
nex
Member
Posts: 2,474
Member Since: February 2009
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by nex on Feb 7, 2018 23:53:54 GMT 1, Drop me a pm if you have an unloved Blu monkey
Drop me a pm if you have an unloved Blu monkey
|
|
laughnow10
Member
Posts: 691
Member Since: February 2017
|
|
|
poplux
Member
Posts: 253
Member Since: June 2017
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by poplux on Feb 8, 2018 0:24:04 GMT 1, And where are your cheap prints? I'll buy Rennes, Demos, WWT and CMYK all day at $1K.
Same 1k for WWT / CMYK / Gaza 
And where are your cheap prints? I'll buy Rennes, Demos, WWT and CMYK all day at $1K. Same 1k for WWT / CMYK / Gaza |
|
sapi
Member
Posts: 108
Member Since: January 2018
|
right - they have two il nullas for $1176 (maybe they are the ones buying them on ebay), one funeral for $1981, and a monkey for $1981. no Rennes or Demos. these may look like crazy prices now, but give them time and read (or reread) this thread |
|
laughnow10
Member
Posts: 691
Member Since: February 2017
|
Blu Artwork, VALUATION, by laughnow10 on Feb 8, 2018 0:40:57 GMT 1, And where are your cheap prints? I'll buy Rennes, Demos, WWT and CMYK all day at $1K. Same 1k for WWT / CMYK / Gaza
I couldn’t shake a CMYK loose for less than $2K...
And where are your cheap prints? I'll buy Rennes, Demos, WWT and CMYK all day at $1K. Same 1k for WWT / CMYK / Gaza I couldn’t shake a CMYK loose for less than $2K... |
|
) 
