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Harland Miller Show, by kel on Apr 20, 2016 14:56:34 GMT 1, Thanks cyberkid
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Harland Miller Show, by Deleted on Apr 20, 2016 16:05:41 GMT 1, ยฃ3500 + any applicable tax will be only the start price for the first 10 orders they will increase the price step by step Don't you just love those money grabbing high end art galleries? Fortunately I don't like Harland Miller so it doesn't really affect me, but from a purely objective perspective, and given what Blain Southern have done for former YBA Mat Collishaw's now flatlined career, I wouldn't automatically see these as a rock solid investment. I believe that this has been the starting price for a HM print for the last several now with a step increase as the editions are sold. I have no experience with Blain Southern but they aren't doing anything unusual with this print release that I see..
ยฃ3500 + any applicable tax will be only the start price for the first 10 orders they will increase the price step by step Don't you just love those money grabbing high end art galleries? Fortunately I don't like Harland Miller so it doesn't really affect me, but from a purely objective perspective, and given what Blain Southern have done for former YBA Mat Collishaw's now flatlined career, I wouldn't automatically see these as a rock solid investment. I believe that this has been the starting price for a HM print for the last several now with a step increase as the editions are sold. I have no experience with Blain Southern but they aren't doing anything unusual with this print release that I see..
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Harland Miller Show, by andyroo0312 on Apr 20, 2016 17:02:56 GMT 1, ยฃ3500 + any applicable tax will be only the start price for the first 10 orders they will increase the price step by step Don't you just love those money grabbing high end art galleries? Fortunately I don't like Harland Miller so it doesn't really affect me, but from a purely objective perspective, and given what Blain Southern have done for former YBA Mat Collishaw's now flatlined career, I wouldn't automatically see these as a rock solid investment. No art is a rock solid investment.
ยฃ3500 + any applicable tax will be only the start price for the first 10 orders they will increase the price step by step Don't you just love those money grabbing high end art galleries? Fortunately I don't like Harland Miller so it doesn't really affect me, but from a purely objective perspective, and given what Blain Southern have done for former YBA Mat Collishaw's now flatlined career, I wouldn't automatically see these as a rock solid investment. No art is a rock solid investment.
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Harland Miller Show, by Deleted on Apr 20, 2016 17:23:51 GMT 1, I know everyone keeps asking but if somebody could send me over a PDF of the show would be appreciated. here for everybody - the pdf docdro.id/wWxrykX That's way easier than emailing!
I know everyone keeps asking but if somebody could send me over a PDF of the show would be appreciated. here for everybody - the pdf docdro.id/wWxrykXThat's way easier than emailing!
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Harland Miller Show, by e3massive on Apr 20, 2016 21:40:09 GMT 1, Thanks for sharing the pdf, not pocket change here!
So if you buy the edition piece, at 3,500 g b p in Berlin, does anyone know what the sales tax is there. 20% is a killer. Fierce have a piece that has just come in, but don't know what that would be vs this new edition.
Thanks for sharing the pdf, not pocket change here!
So if you buy the edition piece, at 3,500 g b p in Berlin, does anyone know what the sales tax is there. 20% is a killer. Fierce have a piece that has just come in, but don't know what that would be vs this new edition.
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Harland Miller Show, by cyberkid on Apr 20, 2016 21:53:37 GMT 1, Thanks for sharing the pdf, not pocket change here! So if you buy the edition piece, at 3,500 g b p in Berlin, does anyone know what the sales tax is there. 20% is a killer. Fierce have a piece that has just come in, but don't know what that would be vs this new edition. +19%
Thanks for sharing the pdf, not pocket change here! So if you buy the edition piece, at 3,500 g b p in Berlin, does anyone know what the sales tax is there. 20% is a killer. Fierce have a piece that has just come in, but don't know what that would be vs this new edition. +19%
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Harland Miller Show, by e3massive on Apr 20, 2016 22:01:38 GMT 1, Not worth the sleazy jet flight there and back then. Love the penguin stuff, but the others in the new sale are definitely a bit hit and miss for me
Not worth the sleazy jet flight there and back then. Love the penguin stuff, but the others in the new sale are definitely a bit hit and miss for me
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Harland Miller Show, by Tiki on Apr 21, 2016 10:21:30 GMT 1, There go my plans of picking up a HMP! :-0
There go my plans of picking up a HMP! :-0
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Harland Miller Show, by andyroo0312 on Apr 21, 2016 13:22:24 GMT 1, I think the thing with people wanting a Harland Miller on their wall, the trick is to buy what you love as soon as you can as 90% of HM works get more expensive as the edition gets sold foe example "High on Hope " was ยฃ3200 is now ยฃ4500 or "Blonde but not forgotten" was ยฃ3200 now is ยฃ4200 and not to forget one of my favourites "Who Cares Wins" which was ยฃ1600 on the pre sale then ยฃ1995 and now is ยฃ3500 and that's for the smaller one. I guess with HM if you love it buy it, but never think you will find one on the 2nd market cheaper than release as it just will not be... i really wish I could bring my flight forward to make this show but it looks like I will be a week to late, one of the down sides living down here.
I think the thing with people wanting a Harland Miller on their wall, the trick is to buy what you love as soon as you can as 90% of HM works get more expensive as the edition gets sold foe example "High on Hope " was ยฃ3200 is now ยฃ4500 or "Blonde but not forgotten" was ยฃ3200 now is ยฃ4200 and not to forget one of my favourites "Who Cares Wins" which was ยฃ1600 on the pre sale then ยฃ1995 and now is ยฃ3500 and that's for the smaller one. I guess with HM if you love it buy it, but never think you will find one on the 2nd market cheaper than release as it just will not be... i really wish I could bring my flight forward to make this show but it looks like I will be a week to late, one of the down sides living down here.
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Harland Miller Show, by Someones Brain on Apr 21, 2016 14:52:42 GMT 1, I read this whole thread and thought 'what a great exhibition, why can't something like this happen closer to where I live' ... and I only noticed right now it's in Berlin and I'll be there next month ... stupid (lucky) me.
I read this whole thread and thought 'what a great exhibition, why can't something like this happen closer to where I live' ... and I only noticed right now it's in Berlin and I'll be there next month ... stupid (lucky) me.
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Harland Miller Show, by e3massive on Apr 22, 2016 16:09:26 GMT 1, A first world problem here. You buy his new piece, the print at 3.5k + the tax, or buy a banksy, I guess a golf sale or maybe an applause if you are lucky? What's you buy? We all know the love of art is in the eye of the beholder, but would be interested to see what people think. The Harland Millers are big pieces, my framer would be a happy man!
A first world problem here. You buy his new piece, the print at 3.5k + the tax, or buy a banksy, I guess a golf sale or maybe an applause if you are lucky? What's you buy? We all know the love of art is in the eye of the beholder, but would be interested to see what people think. The Harland Millers are big pieces, my framer would be a happy man!
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Harland Miller Show, by Dungle on Apr 22, 2016 16:26:57 GMT 1, A first world problem here. You buy his new piece, the print at 3.5k + the tax, or buy a banksy, I guess a golf sale or maybe an applause if you are lucky? What's you buy? We all know the love of art is in the eye of the beholder, but would be interested to see what people think. The Harland Millers are big pieces, my framer would be a happy man! Well it sounds like you are asking which is the better investment.
A first world problem here. You buy his new piece, the print at 3.5k + the tax, or buy a banksy, I guess a golf sale or maybe an applause if you are lucky? What's you buy? We all know the love of art is in the eye of the beholder, but would be interested to see what people think. The Harland Millers are big pieces, my framer would be a happy man! Well it sounds like you are asking which is the better investment.
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Harland Miller Show, by e3massive on Apr 22, 2016 16:38:40 GMT 1, I guess a bit of me is wary of dropping 3.5k to not at least get it back. I know we all but art because we love it, not for it to sit in a vault and make the pension. I do love HL I guess I just need convincing it is right! Yet to ask the art police ?
I guess a bit of me is wary of dropping 3.5k to not at least get it back. I know we all but art because we love it, not for it to sit in a vault and make the pension. I do love HL I guess I just need convincing it is right! Yet to ask the art police ?
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Harland Miller Show, by .dappy on Apr 22, 2016 16:48:37 GMT 1, I guess a bit of me is wary of dropping 3.5k to not at least get it back. I know we all but art because we love it, not for it to sit in a vault and make the pension. I do love HL I guess I just need convincing it is right! Yet to ask the art police ? ... always ask the Art Police ... if she says Yes! you are on to a winner! ... if she says No! she would have said no anyway, so you have not lost anything *
*NEVER ask the Art Police!
I guess a bit of me is wary of dropping 3.5k to not at least get it back. I know we all but art because we love it, not for it to sit in a vault and make the pension. I do love HL I guess I just need convincing it is right! Yet to ask the art police ? ... always ask the Art Police ... if she says Yes! you are on to a winner! ... if she says No! she would have said no anyway, so you have not lost anything * *NEVER ask the Art Police!
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Harland Miller Show, by badgersurf on Apr 22, 2016 19:47:24 GMT 1, Any idea how much a print of this size would cost to frame? Thanks
Any idea how much a print of this size would cost to frame? Thanks
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Harland Miller Show, by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 20:17:34 GMT 1, I guess a bit of me is wary of dropping 3.5k to not at least get it back. I know we all but art because we love it, not for it to sit in a vault and make the pension. I do love HL I guess I just need convincing it is right! Yet to ask the art police ? I haven't seen any HM works go for less than cost so you should feel fairly confident that you would at least retain your investment value if that is part of the point of purchase for you. He is certainly seeming to become more popular rather than less over the years so that can also be a good sign from an investment standpoint. The people that I know that have purchased HM's work feel a personal connection to it in some way and are unlikely to ever sell them. I think it's cool to hear how people connect to the various texts differently.
I guess a bit of me is wary of dropping 3.5k to not at least get it back. I know we all but art because we love it, not for it to sit in a vault and make the pension. I do love HL I guess I just need convincing it is right! Yet to ask the art police ? I haven't seen any HM works go for less than cost so you should feel fairly confident that you would at least retain your investment value if that is part of the point of purchase for you. He is certainly seeming to become more popular rather than less over the years so that can also be a good sign from an investment standpoint. The people that I know that have purchased HM's work feel a personal connection to it in some way and are unlikely to ever sell them. I think it's cool to hear how people connect to the various texts differently.
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Harland Miller Show, by andyroo0312 on Apr 24, 2016 7:49:37 GMT 1, I guess a bit of me is wary of dropping 3.5k to not at least get it back. I know we all but art because we love it, not for it to sit in a vault and make the pension. I do love HL I guess I just need convincing it is right! Yet to ask the art police ? I haven't seen any HM works go for less than cost so you should feel fairly confident that you would at least retain your investment value if that is part of the point of purchase for you. He is certainly seeming to become more popular rather than less over the years so that can also be a good sign from an investment standpoint. The people that I know that have purchased HM's work feel a personal connection to it in some way and are unlikely to ever sell them. I think it's cool to hear how people connect to the various texts differently. Well put. If you like/love HM and want it on your wall more power to you but if you are thinking of investment value then keep your cash and use it towards your mortgage or bank/family debts. i am lucky and own a few HM,s and a few Banksys amongst others but it is the HM,s that everyone that visits want to know about. if you choose art by the skill set of the artist you really can't do much better than Harland Miller. P.S May this weekend be a time of reflection. We are a very lucky generation. Respect to the ANZACs
They shall grow not old, As we that are left grow old, Age shall not weary them, Nor the years condemn. The At the going down of the sun, And in the morning We will remember them.
LEST WE FORGET......x
I guess a bit of me is wary of dropping 3.5k to not at least get it back. I know we all but art because we love it, not for it to sit in a vault and make the pension. I do love HL I guess I just need convincing it is right! Yet to ask the art police ? I haven't seen any HM works go for less than cost so you should feel fairly confident that you would at least retain your investment value if that is part of the point of purchase for you. He is certainly seeming to become more popular rather than less over the years so that can also be a good sign from an investment standpoint. The people that I know that have purchased HM's work feel a personal connection to it in some way and are unlikely to ever sell them. I think it's cool to hear how people connect to the various texts differently. Well put. If you like/love HM and want it on your wall more power to you but if you are thinking of investment value then keep your cash and use it towards your mortgage or bank/family debts. i am lucky and own a few HM,s and a few Banksys amongst others but it is the HM,s that everyone that visits want to know about. if you choose art by the skill set of the artist you really can't do much better than Harland Miller. P.S May this weekend be a time of reflection. We are a very lucky generation. Respect to the ANZACs They shall grow not old, As we that are left grow old, Age shall not weary them, Nor the years condemn. The At the going down of the sun, And in the morning We will remember them. LEST WE FORGET......x
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Harland Miller Show, by chads007 on Apr 25, 2016 10:34:02 GMT 1, Anyone going down for opening? Lots of pictures please
Anyone going down for opening? Lots of pictures please
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Harland Miller Show, by onetwothree on Apr 25, 2016 12:15:25 GMT 1, Fail to see the basis of all this hype. Easy pass. Wouldn't even bother with the show.
Fail to see the basis of all this hype. Easy pass. Wouldn't even bother with the show.
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Harland Miller Show, by andyroo0312 on Apr 25, 2016 13:48:37 GMT 1, Fail to see the basis of all this hype. Easy pass. Wouldn't even bother with the show. This is not the NETIB&W thread mate, no hype here just a few folk chatting about a talented artist. One mans trash is another's treasure.
Fail to see the basis of all this hype. Easy pass. Wouldn't even bother with the show. This is not the NETIB&W thread mate, no hype here just a few folk chatting about a talented artist. One mans trash is another's treasure.
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Harland Miller Show, by Poster Bob on Apr 25, 2016 14:21:02 GMT 1, Any idea how much a print of this size would cost to frame? Thanks I would say you're looking at ยฃ400 to frame it to conservation standards.
Any idea how much a print of this size would cost to frame? Thanks I would say you're looking at ยฃ400 to frame it to conservation standards.
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Harland Miller Show, by J0NNY on Apr 25, 2016 14:32:39 GMT 1, I tend to like HM quite a lot, I just can't understand why the prints cost so much. I mean like someone mentioned earlier, why buy this over a Banksy or even a Hirst or Kaws ?? I don't care who you are but if you pay this amount for a print, you would want to at least ensure that if you need to sell, you can at the very least get your money back (unless of course you got money coming out of your nostrils).I mean if these were $300 I would snap one up even if I knew it would never sell again for half that but 3500GbP+ even a 20% drop would be a fair whack. Do people here put HM in the same bracket as the artists mentioned above for talent and investment purpose? (Genuine question btw, just interested)
I tend to like HM quite a lot, I just can't understand why the prints cost so much. I mean like someone mentioned earlier, why buy this over a Banksy or even a Hirst or Kaws ?? I don't care who you are but if you pay this amount for a print, you would want to at least ensure that if you need to sell, you can at the very least get your money back (unless of course you got money coming out of your nostrils).I mean if these were $300 I would snap one up even if I knew it would never sell again for half that but 3500GbP+ even a 20% drop would be a fair whack. Do people here put HM in the same bracket as the artists mentioned above for talent and investment purpose? (Genuine question btw, just interested)
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Harland Miller Show, by andyroo0312 on Apr 25, 2016 15:03:45 GMT 1, I tend to like HM quite a lot, I just can't understand why the prints cost so much. I mean like someone mentioned earlier, why buy this over a Banksy or even a Hirst or Kaws ?? I don't care who you are but if you pay this amount for a print, you would want to at least ensure that if you need to sell, you can at the very least get your money back (unless of course you got money coming out of your nostrils).I mean if these were $300 I would snap one up even if I knew it would never sell again for half that but 3500GbP+ even a 20% drop would be a fair whack. Do people here put HM in the same bracket as the artists mentioned above for talent and investment purpose? (Genuine question btw, just interested) I agree HM prints are expensive but if you have seen any of his screened prints you will understand why as they are some of the finest you will ever see and the amount of work that goes into them is staggering. There is a video on OtherCriteria's website that gives a idea of the work involved + remember they are friggen huge 1000x 1350mm on average. If I had the choice of a HM print I desire or a Banksy and your paying I would have the Banksy but if it's my money it would be Mr Miller all day (not night) long. We are all very lucky to have such first world problems me thinks..
I tend to like HM quite a lot, I just can't understand why the prints cost so much. I mean like someone mentioned earlier, why buy this over a Banksy or even a Hirst or Kaws ?? I don't care who you are but if you pay this amount for a print, you would want to at least ensure that if you need to sell, you can at the very least get your money back (unless of course you got money coming out of your nostrils).I mean if these were $300 I would snap one up even if I knew it would never sell again for half that but 3500GbP+ even a 20% drop would be a fair whack. Do people here put HM in the same bracket as the artists mentioned above for talent and investment purpose? (Genuine question btw, just interested) I agree HM prints are expensive but if you have seen any of his screened prints you will understand why as they are some of the finest you will ever see and the amount of work that goes into them is staggering. There is a video on OtherCriteria's website that gives a idea of the work involved + remember they are friggen huge 1000x 1350mm on average. If I had the choice of a HM print I desire or a Banksy and your paying I would have the Banksy but if it's my money it would be Mr Miller all day (not night) long. We are all very lucky to have such first world problems me thinks..
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Harland Miller Show, by onetwothree on Apr 25, 2016 15:35:38 GMT 1, I love my Harland Miller. I just find his works (words) witty, self-deprecating and at times heavily loaded with sarcasm, misery and romance. And the details on the print is simply incredible - totally not what I expected and nothing like what I've had or seen before. So yeah, I bought this as a 'gift' to the missus - I just love the sentiment (if I get it correctly) and a nice little reminder of life and relationships. The ambiguity of the text in each piece is also what I love about them.
I still don't understand why you value a one liner so much. If it's literature you value buy a book, this is taking the piss on that level surely? What would you do in a library, just look at the covers lol? If this isn't hype what am I missing?
I love my Harland Miller. I just find his works (words) witty, self-deprecating and at times heavily loaded with sarcasm, misery and romance. And the details on the print is simply incredible - totally not what I expected and nothing like what I've had or seen before. So yeah, I bought this as a 'gift' to the missus - I just love the sentiment (if I get it correctly) and a nice little reminder of life and relationships. The ambiguity of the text in each piece is also what I love about them. I still don't understand why you value a one liner so much. If it's literature you value buy a book, this is taking the piss on that level surely? What would you do in a library, just look at the covers lol? If this isn't hype what am I missing?
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Harland Miller Show, by BKBOI on Apr 25, 2016 15:43:51 GMT 1, ^^^ I should tell every Warhol collector to buy a real can of Campbell's soup rather than buy a print from said artist then. Just sounds you don't understand the artistic merit of the work.
^^^ I should tell every Warhol collector to buy a real can of Campbell's soup rather than buy a print from said artist then. Just sounds you don't understand the artistic merit of the work.
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Harland Miller Show, by Hairbland on Apr 25, 2016 16:06:58 GMT 1, I'd also love to hear some insights from fans on his work. Personally, I don't get the contemporary artists that mainly deal in text, i.e. Harland Miller, Christopher Wool, and Richard Prince's Joke pieces. What is the appeal here beyond a clever slogan? I have 2 (death and where its f**king at) and they are amongst my all time favourite pieces Appeal for me isย -The texts are absolutely hilarious, and profound. Like drinking a pint and shooting the s**t with Plato. I mean seriously "count on me...", "no business like no business etc..." - The choice of battered penguin books appeal to every schoolboy, no matter what you studied. The book that has taken a beating from being pored over too many times trying to extract the quintessential elements captured by the title really resonates - they look great. really reckon' beautiful I do not have any OGs. Wish I did but am not spending that kind of money on art, but having seen many, the work that goes into them is exactly like the sweat and tears of a scholar reading his books for his thesis... All of this is subjective, but really if you catch a show and see his OGs I would love to know what you thought
I'd agree with this, he's taken something common and repositioned it in one's mind as art. The painting skills and application seem to call in references of some of the modernists from the 50's and 60's to me, of which the large size of his pieces is necessary to convey. While this would seem a simple thought that I'd probably need to think a bit more on it's almost as if Rothko meets Warhol, with some of the verbal wit of Holzer thrown in. Which while possibly a thought way off base, is none the less a thought that would be a starting point for conversation, which is often a by-product of strong art. We might not get the art, some don't get many of the modernists in museums but that doesn't make them weak or hyped.
I'd also love to hear some insights from fans on his work. Personally, I don't get the contemporary artists that mainly deal in text, i.e. Harland Miller, Christopher Wool, and Richard Prince's Joke pieces. What is the appeal here beyond a clever slogan? I have 2 (death and where its f**king at) and they are amongst my all time favourite pieces Appeal for me isย -The texts are absolutely hilarious, and profound. Like drinking a pint and shooting the s**t with Plato. I mean seriously "count on me...", "no business like no business etc..." - The choice of battered penguin books appeal to every schoolboy, no matter what you studied. The book that has taken a beating from being pored over too many times trying to extract the quintessential elements captured by the title really resonates - they look great. really reckon' beautiful I do not have any OGs. Wish I did but am not spending that kind of money on art, but having seen many, the work that goes into them is exactly like the sweat and tears of a scholar reading his books for his thesis... All of this is subjective, but really if you catch a show and see his OGs I would love to know what you thought I'd agree with this, he's taken something common and repositioned it in one's mind as art. The painting skills and application seem to call in references of some of the modernists from the 50's and 60's to me, of which the large size of his pieces is necessary to convey. While this would seem a simple thought that I'd probably need to think a bit more on it's almost as if Rothko meets Warhol, with some of the verbal wit of Holzer thrown in. Which while possibly a thought way off base, is none the less a thought that would be a starting point for conversation, which is often a by-product of strong art. We might not get the art, some don't get many of the modernists in museums but that doesn't make them weak or hyped.
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Harland Miller Show, by onetwothree on Apr 25, 2016 17:26:51 GMT 1, I have 2 (death and where its f**king at) and they are amongst my all time favourite pieces Appeal for me isย -The texts are absolutely hilarious, and profound. Like drinking a pint and shooting the s**t with Plato. I mean seriously "count on me...", "no business like no business etc..." - The choice of battered penguin books appeal to every schoolboy, no matter what you studied. The book that has taken a beating from being pored over too many times trying to extract the quintessential elements captured by the title really resonates - they look great. really reckon' beautiful I do not have any OGs. Wish I did but am not spending that kind of money on art, but having seen many, the work that goes into them is exactly like the sweat and tears of a scholar reading his books for his thesis... All of this is subjective, but really if you catch a show and see his OGs I would love to know what you thought I'd agree with this, he's taken something common and repositioned it in one's mind as art. The painting skills and application seem to call in references of some of the modernists from the 50's and 60's to me, of which the large size of his pieces is necessary to convey. While this would seem a simple thought that I'd probably need to think a bit more on it's almost as if Rothko meets Warhol, with some of the verbal wit of Holzer thrown in. Which while possibly a thought way off base, is none the less a thought that would be a starting point for conversation, which is often a by-product of strong art. We might not get the art, some don't get many of the modernists in museums but that doesn't make them weak or hyped. [b
Clearly this doesn't have the genius in Rothko or the celebrity with Warhol- or a place in history like either. And Witt is cheap theses days, especially with social media. Nobodies really explained what it's good for apart from the nostalgia of old books. Old books satisfy that so much better don't you think? Just buy a good book, so much more to be mined from one of those than this drivel.
I have 2 (death and where its f**king at) and they are amongst my all time favourite pieces Appeal for me isย -The texts are absolutely hilarious, and profound. Like drinking a pint and shooting the s**t with Plato. I mean seriously "count on me...", "no business like no business etc..." - The choice of battered penguin books appeal to every schoolboy, no matter what you studied. The book that has taken a beating from being pored over too many times trying to extract the quintessential elements captured by the title really resonates - they look great. really reckon' beautiful I do not have any OGs. Wish I did but am not spending that kind of money on art, but having seen many, the work that goes into them is exactly like the sweat and tears of a scholar reading his books for his thesis... All of this is subjective, but really if you catch a show and see his OGs I would love to know what you thought I'd agree with this, he's taken something common and repositioned it in one's mind as art. The painting skills and application seem to call in references of some of the modernists from the 50's and 60's to me, of which the large size of his pieces is necessary to convey. While this would seem a simple thought that I'd probably need to think a bit more on it's almost as if Rothko meets Warhol, with some of the verbal wit of Holzer thrown in. Which while possibly a thought way off base, is none the less a thought that would be a starting point for conversation, which is often a by-product of strong art. We might not get the art, some don't get many of the modernists in museums but that doesn't make them weak or hyped. [b Clearly this doesn't have the genius in Rothko or the celebrity with Warhol- or a place in history like either. And Witt is cheap theses days, especially with social media. Nobodies really explained what it's good for apart from the nostalgia of old books. Old books satisfy that so much better don't you think? Just buy a good book, so much more to be mined from one of those than this drivel.
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Harland Miller Show, by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 18:16:52 GMT 1, I tend to like HM quite a lot, I just can't understand why the prints cost so much. I mean like someone mentioned earlier, why buy this over a Banksy or even a Hirst or Kaws ?? I don't care who you are but if you pay this amount for a print, you would want to at least ensure that if you need to sell, you can at the very least get your money back (unless of course you got money coming out of your nostrils).I mean if these were $300 I would snap one up even if I knew it would never sell again for half that but 3500GbP+ even a 20% drop would be a fair whack. Do people here put HM in the same bracket as the artists mentioned above for talent and investment purpose? (Genuine question btw, just interested) I think it's a fair question J0NNY and I think it comes down to one's motives for acquiring artwork. Some do it just because they love the work, some to make a buck , and most land all around the the middle somewhere. There is no right or wrong answer here. I do own several high (purchase) value work by other artists including Banksy. All were bought with only the mindset of I loved the work vs. if / when I sell this what will I get back. I personally never had the thought "should I buy this HM work that I love or an unsigned Golf Sale because it's a Banksy and is in the similar price range and might be worth more later?". As with anything you want to ensure that you are getting a fair deal when purchasing or selling but for me that is usually where I stop thinking about the monetary variable. "Sure thing" art investments only really exist in hindsight and you never know where the market or artist directions will go.
That said..when you look at HM's prints that have sold out at the source "Death,Whats In It For Me", "Don't Let the Bastards Cheer You Up", This is Where Its F**kin At" they all command a much higher value today than the initial offered price. That is if you can even find one for sale.
Just my thoughts.
I tend to like HM quite a lot, I just can't understand why the prints cost so much. I mean like someone mentioned earlier, why buy this over a Banksy or even a Hirst or Kaws ?? I don't care who you are but if you pay this amount for a print, you would want to at least ensure that if you need to sell, you can at the very least get your money back (unless of course you got money coming out of your nostrils).I mean if these were $300 I would snap one up even if I knew it would never sell again for half that but 3500GbP+ even a 20% drop would be a fair whack. Do people here put HM in the same bracket as the artists mentioned above for talent and investment purpose? (Genuine question btw, just interested) I think it's a fair question J0NNY and I think it comes down to one's motives for acquiring artwork. Some do it just because they love the work, some to make a buck , and most land all around the the middle somewhere. There is no right or wrong answer here. I do own several high (purchase) value work by other artists including Banksy. All were bought with only the mindset of I loved the work vs. if / when I sell this what will I get back. I personally never had the thought "should I buy this HM work that I love or an unsigned Golf Sale because it's a Banksy and is in the similar price range and might be worth more later?". As with anything you want to ensure that you are getting a fair deal when purchasing or selling but for me that is usually where I stop thinking about the monetary variable. "Sure thing" art investments only really exist in hindsight and you never know where the market or artist directions will go. That said..when you look at HM's prints that have sold out at the source "Death,Whats In It For Me", "Don't Let the Bastards Cheer You Up", This is Where Its F**kin At" they all command a much higher value today than the initial offered price. That is if you can even find one for sale. Just my thoughts.
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Harland Miller Show, by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 18:26:40 GMT 1, I'd agree with this, he's taken something common and repositioned it in one's mind as art. The painting skills and application seem to call in references of some of the modernists from the 50's and 60's to me, of which the large size of his pieces is necessary to convey. While this would seem a simple thought that I'd probably need to think a bit more on it's almost as if Rothko meets Warhol, with some of the verbal wit of Holzer thrown in. Which while possibly a thought way off base, is none the less a thought that would be a starting point for conversation, which is often a by-product of strong art. We might not get the art, some don't get many of the modernists in museums but that doesn't make them weak or hyped. [b Clearly this doesn't have the genius in Rothko or the celebrity with Warhol- or a place in history like either. And Witt is cheap theses days, especially with social media. Nobodies really explained what it's good for apart from the nostalgia of old books. Old books satisfy that so much better don't you think? Just buy a good book, so much more to be mined from one of those than this drivel. To me what it is good for is that his work makes me think, makes me happy, my friends and guests happy, becomes a topic great conversation, looks great. What is the art on your wall good for?
I'd agree with this, he's taken something common and repositioned it in one's mind as art. The painting skills and application seem to call in references of some of the modernists from the 50's and 60's to me, of which the large size of his pieces is necessary to convey. While this would seem a simple thought that I'd probably need to think a bit more on it's almost as if Rothko meets Warhol, with some of the verbal wit of Holzer thrown in. Which while possibly a thought way off base, is none the less a thought that would be a starting point for conversation, which is often a by-product of strong art. We might not get the art, some don't get many of the modernists in museums but that doesn't make them weak or hyped. [b Clearly this doesn't have the genius in Rothko or the celebrity with Warhol- or a place in history like either. And Witt is cheap theses days, especially with social media. Nobodies really explained what it's good for apart from the nostalgia of old books. Old books satisfy that so much better don't you think? Just buy a good book, so much more to be mined from one of those than this drivel. To me what it is good for is that his work makes me think, makes me happy, my friends and guests happy, becomes a topic great conversation, looks great. What is the art on your wall good for?
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Harland Miller Show, by onetwothree on Apr 25, 2016 19:39:52 GMT 1, To me what it is good for is that his work makes me think, makes me happy, my friends and guests happy, becomes a topic great conversation, looks great. ย What is the art on your wall good for? If your art didn't do all that it wouldn't be art in fairness It would be decoration, or wall paper. When I said 'good for', I guess I meant better than any other art. Over it anyway. easy pass for me!
To me what it is good for is that his work makes me think, makes me happy, my friends and guests happy, becomes a topic great conversation, looks great. ย What is the art on your wall good for? If your art didn't do all that it wouldn't be art in fairness It would be decoration, or wall paper. When I said 'good for', I guess I meant better than any other art. Over it anyway. easy pass for me!
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