[ala399]

Thanks bombhugger, I appreciate input and opinion from experianced members like yourself, corblimeylimey and others.

So if the seller can provide a registered POW name, and POW confirms the registered name match, one can claim the print has provenance. In most cases, the original purchases name is on Paypal and thus confirmed. Would you and other experianced members agree or not?

[Run Pig Run]

i'm fairly sure that any paper trial back to POW is classed as provenance - ebay print outs/written reciepts/pow emails etc.

[corblimeylimey]

At the end of the day it's probably not a fake, provenance is meant to show the history of ownership back to origin so the first person to buy it should have a POW receipt of some sort then there should be pay pal or ebay proof of that item selling to the next person and so on.

If that line of provenance doesn't exist just calling POW and saying a print number won't prove much, we all know there's one number 58 out there.

[Strange Al]

ala399 said:

Thanks bombhugger, I appreciate input and opinion from experianced members like yourself, corblimeylimey and others.

So if the seller can provide a registered POW name, and POW confirms the registered name match, one can claim the print has provenance. In most cases, the original purchases name is on Paypal and thus confirmed. Would you and other experianced members agree or not?

The best form of provenance is getting POW to confirm directly to you, the potential buyer, that the seller is the original owner of the print. If POW confirm this to you in writing, that's very good provenance in terms of authenticating the print.

Going forward (i.e., if you want to re-sell in the future) it's best to get copies of every document the seller has re the print - including any online POW receipt and paypal purchase. I'd also save copies of any correspondence you have with the seller, along with print outs of the auction details, your own paypal payment, etc, etc. That way if you sell, you can give potential buyers the name of the original owner, plus documents evidencing that you bought the print from them.

Finally, if you can pick up the print in person - do. Also, if I was going to spend a lot of money on a print, I'd engage the seller in as much correspondence as possible. If someone is genuine, they're normally pretty open in correspondence.

[Run Pig Run]

£816 for the same guys CND soldiers.

[gilbaron]

watching my chances of getting a banksy on my wall fly away like so many happy choppers....
g

[corblimeylimey]

bombhugger said:

£816 for the same guys CND soldiers.

Blimey, unsigned really is going a bit mad, and when Art Republic sold me my J&J last July for £500 framed I didn't believe the guy when he said "I shouldn't say this, but it'll probably be worth £1000 in a years time" it looked like there was no way that was going to happen even 1 month ago, now I'm not sure.

[dog byte]

crazyjake said:

Ebay 320124798151. Does everything look cool to you? What about the blind stamp going off the paper. The seller has no provenance. Any opinions are appreciated. I missed the last one and really want to get one.

thats a lot of money with no provenance....

[corblimeylimey]

Yeah but it's very unlikly to be fake isn't it, and if the buyer took it to POW for verification that would do wouldn't it?

[corblimeylimey]

All done at £983.59

[Michael Jacob]

WOW £983.59! I really want one. Any forum members have one for sale?

[dog byte]

wow took a hit for saying that... it's all good...

love the j & j print (one of my favorites) was thinking of bidding at last minute (a bit out of my range but what the hell)..
decided not to bid because i never had a chance to contact the seller and get a read...

jealous of whoever got it... hang and enjoy

[rabbitlegs]

Looking to buy a J+J...unsigned. Going rate payed in cash, or could work some swaps out, up 2 you .

Can pick up virtually anywhere in U.K.

[rabbitlegs]

*Bump* Before this thread dissapears into the sands of time.

May take a signed if you dont mind a couple/few of unsigned + Cash

[lastpost]

What is the going rate Rabbitlegs?

[rabbitlegs]

Put it this way...If you have got one (unsigned) with full prov. I will buy it. Im sure you know the 'Going rate' PM me your price and pictures :-)

[dawn2006]

Theres a signed one on ebay 190130727693. It's outa my league but you never know!!!

[meatbag]

Hey all, I'm new to the forums and wanted to say I'll definitely try my best to add to the community, especially as I learn a bit more. Some people here might know me from KR's forums. I've been a member there for quite some time. I've also got a 100% rep on the bay. To give you an idea what I'm into... my collection is made up of originals by graffiti artists such as The London Police, Dave Soule, KAWS, Blaine Fontana, Greg Simkins and Sam Flores. I need to take some pics so I can share if people would like to see.

Anyway, I'm potentially looking to pick up a signed Jack and Jill or Love Is In The Air if anyone was thinking of selling. I have an idea what they are going for but not exactly sure what the current rate might be. I'd be grateful for any help. Thanks!

[bond]

hello , good afternoon and welcome !

this is by far the best site on the web so you'll enjoy it here . There is a great sense of community and you do feel part of something special - - hope that does'nt sound too soppy !

Re the signed J & J , currently you'd be looking at around £ 4 k , maybe a bit more.

[carlito]

the easiest way to find the current 'going rates' is to do a little search on the bay ticking the 'completed listing box' .. the last one on there went for £4310

[meatbag]

cool. thanks for the info.. much appreciated

[gilbaron]

I've been trying like crazy to get a print on ebay, only to wind up with a damaged flags.
At least it brought me here. Appreciating a place away from the scam artists and the wankers speculating and driving prices well into the stratosphere.
Im looking(for my wall) for either of an unsigned applause,or an unsigned jack and jill. Wondering if anyone here has a pity print laying about cluttering up their space that they'd be willing to part with.
I've got between 500-600(yes I know thats gonna mean 600) but its the truth, and really I'm stretching. I do have some banksy goodies(nothing crazy) but Id happily add them to the mix if it got a banksy up on my wall. Id also like to add insured postage. I learned that lesson well enough.
So I put myself at the mercy of the forum...
thanks in advance
gil

[discoduster]

Mate

I've been after an Applause for a couple months now and am starting to regret not picking one up when they were £500.

Now going for £750.

[dave313perry]

Good luck, seems prices for unsigned have esculated recently and 600 limits you quite alot, probably to flags and morons, although an unsigned gangsta rat went not long back for around 750,framed, so might be worth stretching a little! good luck in your persuit! aslo you may find that prices drop a little on certain prints when the next print is released but this is just speculation as people max their credit cards out!?!? just a thought

[gilbaron]

I appreciate the input and the goodwill. Its a print jungle out there. I've had the same madness as everyone else here with pow, I even did a screen grab of the credit card input screen that was left up when I input my card on the applause onsale, right after their system crashed and locked me out. I feel for their predicament, but I fear more for my(our) sanity when the next onsale(onslaught) happens.
If it helps any I have a single folded greenpeace save or delete banksy poster that I'd throw in toward the cause...plus a barely legal postcard and poster from the la show...
anyone...?

g

[corisma]

If anybody has an Unsigned they'd like to sell plz let me know (can't believe how many times i've missed out on this one) genuinely to keep framed up next to my Barcode

Could possibly trade a few things for a Signed version :

Love Rat
Gangsta Rat
Napalm
Queen Vic
(all unsigned)

Baldwin Disneyland Horror 1
Signed Albino Invader
Blek Homeless in Paris

[crazyarsemother]

Hi there,

I have an unsigned one. PM me if you like.

Thanks

[corisma]

Hi crazy

Great .. sry was out for a while but have just pm'd you now

let me know

Cheers mate

[cosmic]

pm'd you also

[rabbitlegs]

crazyarsemother said:

Hi there,

I have an unsigned one. PM me if you like.

Thanks

Where were you last week, when I shouted for one

Oh well...drop me a line if not sold already.