PEZ 🇫🇷 Pierre-Yves Riveau • New Release • Art For Sale

[JW]

Jan 21, 2019 22:05:26 GMT 1 nottyplay1 said:

Jan 21, 2019 20:38:15 GMT 1 JW said:

Are we absolutely sure the rules were changed to random selection?  They explicitly stated it was fastest to reply:

yes straight from a PM from them

Fair enough.  It's their perogative, but I don't know why they didn't just state that upfront.  I get that enough from my wife.  

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😂😂😂😂

[Bangksy]

Jan 20, 2019 18:06:13 GMT 1 andi said:

Just got the pre-order email...
Answered within 2 mins, hopefully that was fast enough :-)

How does this work? I didn't get a presale email. Do you have to contact them for every drop? I thought they automatically sent out presale emails to previous purchasers of Pez's prints, no?

[Redbirds]

Jan 21, 2019 22:51:28 GMT 1 Bangksy said:

Jan 20, 2019 18:06:13 GMT 1 andi said:

Just got the pre-order email...
Answered within 2 mins, hopefully that was fast enough :-)

How does this work? I didn't get a presale email. Do you have to contact them for every drop? I thought they automatically sent out presale emails to previous purchasers of Pez's prints, no?

Nope -show interest in specific print

[Bangksy]

Oh well. Maybe next time.

[tab1]

Jan 21, 2019 21:55:29 GMT 1 Coach said:

A lot of love for this print. Does nothing for me. Each to their own. The art I collect oftentimes does nothing for others!

It's only a few realistically on here trying to purchase ,if you read the thread. 150 main edition plus all the others I'm sure everyone that wants one will be able to purchase , not that great a demand on the secondary market for pez so a few usual flippers may pass , plus you have a chance at the vault sales.

[Redbirds]

Jan 22, 2019 0:08:53 GMT 1 tab1 said:

Jan 21, 2019 21:55:29 GMT 1 Coach said:

A lot of love for this print. Does nothing for me. Each to their own. The art I collect oftentimes does nothing for others!

It's only a few realistically on here trying to purchase ,if you read the thread. 150 main edition plus all the others I'm sure everyone that wants one will be able to purchase , not that great a demand on the secondary market for pez so a few usual flippers may pass , plus you have a chance at the vault sales.

Disagree but we will see -this will be a race to checkout

[NYart]

Jan 22, 2019 0:26:24 GMT 1 Redbirds said:

Jan 22, 2019 0:08:53 GMT 1 tab1 said:

It's only a few realistically on here trying to purchase ,if you read the thread. 150 main edition plus all the others I'm sure everyone that wants one will be able to purchase , not that great a demand on the secondary market for pez so a few usual flippers may pass , plus you have a chance at the vault sales.

Disagree but we will see -this will be a race to checkout

Considering 300 wanted to preorder.. that’s not counting all the people who wanted one but didn’t know to email GP

[tab1]

Jan 22, 2019 0:30:00 GMT 1 NYart said:

Jan 22, 2019 0:26:24 GMT 1 Redbirds said:

Disagree but we will see -this will be a race to checkout

Considering 300 wanted to preorder.. that’s not counting all the people who wanted one but didn’t know to email GP

How do you know that?

[Redbirds]

Jan 22, 2019 1:22:28 GMT 1 tab1 said:

Jan 22, 2019 0:30:00 GMT 1 NYart said:

Considering 300 wanted to preorder.. that’s not counting all the people who wanted one but didn’t know to email GP

How do you know that?

Was in the email

[d.r. perseus]

Super rad print. Next time. Failure with minimal effort and dumb luck still hurts. Ha

[tab1]

Jan 22, 2019 1:28:18 GMT 1 Redbirds said:

Jan 22, 2019 1:22:28 GMT 1 tab1 said:

How do you know that?

Was in the email

Ok,must be popular! Instant sell out on the day then!
could release an unsigned edition for those that missed out 

[d.r. perseus]

Ooh side note I received a PayPal invoice but no other notification included hg nothing from PayPal . Not sure I replied in time

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Jan 23, 2019 1:28:14 GMT 1 d.r. perseus said:

Ooh side note I received a PayPal invoice but no other notification included hg nothing from PayPal . Not sure I replied in time

it was chosen at random , per G himself

[d.r. perseus]

Jan 23, 2019 1:49:40 GMT 1 nottyplay1 said:

Jan 23, 2019 1:28:14 GMT 1 d.r. perseus said:

Ooh side note I received a PayPal invoice but no other notification included hg nothing from PayPal . Not sure I replied in time

it was chosen at random , per G himself

I perhaps didn’t communicate properly.i meant I may not have replied to the invoice in time

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😥

[met]

Jan 21, 2019 21:55:29 GMT 1 Coach said:

A lot of love for this print. Does nothing for me. Each to their own. The art I collect oftentimes does nothing for others!

I find this print a bit naff.

In fairness to Pez, his art does demonstrate a level of technical ability.

The main failure for me is the fact he seems overly concerned by what other artists are doing. Pez has a tendency of referencing those artists, or is influenced by them in a way that's too obvious. This might be down to youth, and could also explain his visual erraticism.

Depending on the piece, I've picked up thematic or stylistic influences by (among others) the likes of Seth, Dran, Tilt, Jeff Gillette and Banksy. It results in work which quite often feels more derivative than individual.

In the case of Mirage, the image looks like a poor man's Pejac.

[Deleted]

Jan 24, 2019 23:45:30 GMT 1 met said:

Jan 21, 2019 21:55:29 GMT 1 Coach said:

A lot of love for this print. Does nothing for me. Each to their own. The art I collect oftentimes does nothing for others!

I find this print a bit naff.

In fairness to Pez, his art does demonstrate a level of technical ability.

The main failure for me is the fact he seems overly concerned by what other artists are doing. Pez has a tendency of referencing those artists, or is influenced by them in a way that's too obvious. This might be down to youth, and could also explain his visual erraticism.

Depending on the piece, I've picked up thematic or stylistic influences by (among others) the likes of Seth, Dran, Tilt, Jeff Gillette and Banksy. It results in work which quite often feels more derivative than individual.

In the case of Mirage, the image looks like a poor man's Pejac.

Lol Pejac shouldn't even be allowed to tie Pez's shoes.

[chevyav53]

Jan 24, 2019 23:45:30 GMT 1 met said:

Jan 21, 2019 21:55:29 GMT 1 Coach said:

A lot of love for this print. Does nothing for me. Each to their own. The art I collect oftentimes does nothing for others!

I find this print a bit naff.

In fairness to Pez, his art does demonstrate a level of technical ability.

The main failure for me is the fact he seems overly concerned by what other artists are doing. Pez has a tendency of referencing those artists, or is influenced by them in a way that's too obvious. This might be down to youth, and could also explain his visual erraticism.

Depending on the piece, I've picked up thematic or stylistic influences by (among others) the likes of Seth, Dran, Tilt, Jeff Gillette and Banksy. It results in work which quite often feels more derivative than individual.

In the case of Mirage, the image looks like a poor man's Pejac.

How does this look like a Pejac, because you chose the mono variant? I think Pez goes much more in-depth than Pejac whose work looks repetitive, some of which I enjoy.  Sure Pez was probably influenced by the artists you mentioned as is any artist with their idols or mentors.  

I truly enjoy how Pez addresses our obsessions, greeds and the environment.  But hey Pejac really likes arrows, deer, and crows cool.

[Express Post]

This particulat artwork is an optical illusion raising awareness about environmental issues.

Now cut and paste the above for certain Pejac artworks.

Pez's work may look inspired by Pejac and it is only because he is on the same territory using the same visual tricks.

Jan 25, 2019 0:41:35 GMT 1 chevyav53 said:

Jan 24, 2019 23:45:30 GMT 1 met said:

I find this print a bit naff.

In fairness to Pez, his art does demonstrate a level of technical ability.

The main failure for me is the fact he seems overly concerned by what other artists are doing. Pez has a tendency of referencing those artists, or is influenced by them in a way that's too obvious. This might be down to youth, and could also explain his visual erraticism.

Depending on the piece, I've picked up thematic or stylistic influences by (among others) the likes of Seth, Dran, Tilt, Jeff Gillette and Banksy. It results in work which quite often feels more derivative than individual.

In the case of Mirage, the image looks like a poor man's Pejac.

How does this look like a Pejac, because you chose the mono variant? I think Pez goes much more in-depth than Pejac whose work looks repetitive, some of which I enjoy.  Sure Pez was probably influenced by the artists you mentioned as is any artist with their idols or mentors.  

I truly enjoy how Pez addresses our obsessions, greeds and the environment.  But hey Pejac really likes arrows, deer, and crows cool.

[d.r. perseus]

I actually agree that pez at times appears to be “trying on different hats”. ..even with that his style is clearly distinct as is, say pejac from mets mentioned few. Regardless I love the image (even more so due to my deep seeded love for rhinos).

I don’t think Mets critic is without reason....whats amusing is when everyone starts in on any artist due to the comparisons. Oh you think it’s like pejac? Pejac is sheeeit!

[Deleted]

Jan 25, 2019 1:37:09 GMT 1 Express Post said:

This particulat artwork is an optical illusion raising awareness about environmental issues.

Now cut and paste the above for certain Pejac artworks.

Pez's work may look inspired by Pejac and it is only because he is on the same territory using the same visual tricks.

Jan 25, 2019 0:41:35 GMT 1 chevyav53 said:

How does this look like a Pejac, because you chose the mono variant? I think Pez goes much more in-depth than Pejac whose work looks repetitive, some of which I enjoy.  Sure Pez was probably influenced by the artists you mentioned as is any artist with their idols or mentors.  

I truly enjoy how Pez addresses our obsessions, greeds and the environment.  But hey Pejac really likes arrows, deer, and crows cool.

That's sort of like saying "Picasso is the same as a regular house painter, I mean, they both smear paint on stuff". 

PEZ has already done so much different styles, vibrant colours, etc, where Pejac is just repeating his black and white environment theme. There's no way to compare the two and to say that PEZ is 'paying too much attention to what others are doing' is just an outright lie.

[Express Post]

You don't comprehend.

It's about Mirage painted by Pez that has visual similarities to certain, not all, artworks made by Pejac.

It is these similarities between Mirage and other Pejac pieces which is why people are calling it out.

You've compared Picasso to a house painter's output based solely on using paint as the medium. Visually, they are not alike. There are no visual similarities. You could switch Picasso for an abstract artist that does solid colours, then we would have a discussion, but Picasso is the wrong example.

Jan 25, 2019 1:55:01 GMT 1 @blanksky said:

Jan 25, 2019 1:37:09 GMT 1 Express Post said:

This particulat artwork is an optical illusion raising awareness about environmental issues.

Now cut and paste the above for certain Pejac artworks.

Pez's work may look inspired by Pejac and it is only because he is on the same territory using the same visual tricks.

That's sort of like saying "Picasso is the same as a regular house painter, I mean, they both smear paint on stuff". 

PEZ has already done so much different styles, vibrant colours, etc, where Pejac is just repeating his black and white environment theme. There's no way to compare the two and to say that PEZ is 'paying too much attention to what others are doing' is just an outright lie.

[Deleted]

Jan 25, 2019 2:15:35 GMT 1 Express Post said:

You don't comprehend.

It's about Mirage painted by Pez that has visual similarities to certain, not all, artworks made by Pejac.

It is these similarities between Mirage and other Pejac pieces which is why people are calling it out.

You've compared Picasso to a house painter's output based solely on using paint as the medium. Visually, they are not alike. There are no visual similarities. You could switch Picasso for an abstract artist that does solid colours, then we would have a discussion, but Picasso is the wrong example.

Jan 25, 2019 1:55:01 GMT 1 @blanksky said:

That's sort of like saying "Picasso is the same as a regular house painter, I mean, they both smear paint on stuff". 

PEZ has already done so much different styles, vibrant colours, etc, where Pejac is just repeating his black and white environment theme. There's no way to compare the two and to say that PEZ is 'paying too much attention to what others are doing' is just an outright lie.

That's the exact thing I'm pointing out: one of PEZ's prints looks like all Pejac's prints. Besides that, PEZ has shown a lot of styles and techniques in his career where as Pejac has been repeating his style print after print after print.

The guy you quoted called this a poor mans Pejac. If anything it's a rich mans Pejac as it's way more detailed than the stuff Pejac has published until now.

Oh, and I actually like Pejac a fair bit.

[nighthawk]

How about they each have their strengths (and weaknesses)?! I do see a similarity with this piece and previous works by Pejac. I can’t say for sure what it is, (not the obvious reference to nature) but I think there’s something there.

[stelio]

Similarity is that they both take grim or depressing messages yet in their own styles transform it into something beautiful.

[tab1]

Jan 25, 2019 0:41:35 GMT 1 chevyav53 said:

Jan 24, 2019 23:45:30 GMT 1 met said:

I find this print a bit naff.

In fairness to Pez, his art does demonstrate a level of technical ability.

The main failure for me is the fact he seems overly concerned by what other artists are doing. Pez has a tendency of referencing those artists, or is influenced by them in a way that's too obvious. This might be down to youth, and could also explain his visual erraticism.

Depending on the piece, I've picked up thematic or stylistic influences by (among others) the likes of Seth, Dran, Tilt, Jeff Gillette and Banksy. It results in work which quite often feels more derivative than individual.

In the case of Mirage, the image looks like a poor man's Pejac.

How does this look like a Pejac, because you chose the mono variant? I think Pez goes much more in-depth than Pejac whose work looks repetitive, some of which I enjoy.  Sure Pez was probably influenced by the artists you mentioned as is any artist with their idols or mentors.  

I truly enjoy how Pez addresses our obsessions, greeds and the environment.  But hey Pejac really likes arrows, deer, and crows cool.

With regards to addressing the environment issues I thought the main media issues of late was plastic in the oceans not raising awareness in the wilderness of African safari lands?unless tourists throwing out their lunch bags when on a jeep safari

must have a small collector base as each release in technical style is so different to his last , collectors usually like similar form? Good to see not stuck in mould and trying new styles 

[tab1]

Example of varying style

www.graffitiprints.com/product/z-pez-primary-instinct-gold-metallic/

The lastest works best in monochrome

[NYart]

It’s a bit strange to compare the two of them in my opinion. Pejac has his niche, and Pez has quite the range of pursuits. Short of this Mirage piece, and their shared talent of utilizing pencil work, that’s about the extent of their similarities. Both are very creative and their work stands alone. Might aswell say they both are copying Obey because of his pro environment pieces 🤷🏻‍♂️

[d.r. perseus]

Jan 25, 2019 3:35:56 GMT 1 tab1 said:

Jan 25, 2019 0:41:35 GMT 1 chevyav53 said:

How does this look like a Pejac, because you chose the mono variant? I think Pez goes much more in-depth than Pejac whose work looks repetitive, some of which I enjoy.  Sure Pez was probably influenced by the artists you mentioned as is any artist with their idols or mentors.  

I truly enjoy how Pez addresses our obsessions, greeds and the environment.  But hey Pejac really likes arrows, deer, and crows cool.

With regards to addressing the environment issues I thought the main media issues of late was plastic in the oceans not raising awareness in the wilderness of African safari lands?unless tourists throwing out their lunch bags when on a jeep safari

must have a small collector base as each release in technical style is so different to his last , collectors usually like similar form? Good to see not stuck in mould and trying new styles 

You haven’t heard one thing about poaching of rhinos for their horns? Really? The plastic isnt the issue, Walter