[craigf]

There might a few people on here that have one....

[Pysgod]

I hooked a duck,  Then asked if I'd won a fish finger he just stared me out looked me up and down and turned his back on me

I pocketed that duck 

[PS]

Jan 25, 2018 23:21:18 GMT 1 Pysgod said:

I hooked a duck,  Then asked if I'd won a fish finger he just stared me out looked me up and down and turned his back on me

I pocketed that duck 

Trade?

[Monkey Say Monkey Do]

images upload


I had this little fella thrown at me for having so many goes and being too happy  ...

[Monkey Say Monkey Do]

P.S

My Fishfinger is still alive .....

 

[Deleted]

Jan 25, 2018 22:30:01 GMT 1 PS said:

Looking for a "Duck from the Muck" from Dismaland. I know a few of these made there way out the park as there were less and less every visit I made ☺️ looking to add one to my collection of Banksy ephemera, complete discretion guaranteed. I have cash or some alternative Banksy ephemera to trade.

Please pm to discuss. Cheers.



upload pic

Did have one somewhere let me see if I can find it

[PS]

Happy Sunday folks 😀 still keen to pick up a Duck from the Muck, had a few notes but nothing tied up. Please pm to discuss.

[PS]

Now secured, thanks for all the PM's wouldn't mind another if I could work a deal, cheers.

[bradk]

Got about 5 fish fingers.....but no duck!!

Why didn't I take a ducking duck!!!

[met]

Jan 25, 2018 22:30:01 GMT 1 PS said:

Looking for a "Duck from the Muck" from Dismaland. I know a few of these made there way out the park as there were less and less every visit I made ☺️ looking to add one to my collection of Banksy ephemera, complete discretion guaranteed. I have cash or some alternative Banksy ephemera to trade.

Please pm to discuss. Cheers.

[...]

Jan 28, 2018 19:12:01 GMT 1 PS said:

Happy Sunday folks 😀 still keen to pick up a Duck from the Muck, had a few notes but nothing tied up. Please pm to discuss.

Feb 6, 2018 11:30:23 GMT 1 PS said:

Now secured, thanks for all the PM's wouldn't mind another if I could work a deal, cheers.

Rationalising dishonest behaviour is a pretty simple exercise. The self-serving justifications won't always be convincing, but there are certainly plenty to choose from. All that's required is a bit of imagination. Raskolnikov himself came up with arguably credible reasons for murdering and stealing from Alyona Ivanovna.

However, the mental gymnastics become trickier in some situations. This is the case if we've previously made ethics-based comments which leave us exposed to accusations of applying double standards when it suits us, i.e. whenever it's in our selfish interest. Being amoral is more comfortable than being a hypocrite — because the latter places us in an unpleasant state of cognitive dissonance.

_________


So the following question is especially for members and moderators who've criticised the removal and sale of street pieces in the past, and who are remaining silent in this 'In search of' thread:

Consider the activity openly taking place here. What we have is trade in stolen goods being facilitated by the Urban Art Association.

Now, in what way is this scenario any more defensible than posts by chancing thieves advertising the sale of stolen street art?

[Dice]

Feb 7, 2018 10:58:44 GMT 1 met said:

Jan 25, 2018 22:30:01 GMT 1 PS said:

Looking for a "Duck from the Muck" from Dismaland. I know a few of these made there way out the park as there were less and less every visit I made ☺️ looking to add one to my collection of Banksy ephemera, complete discretion guaranteed. I have cash or some alternative Banksy ephemera to trade.

Please pm to discuss. Cheers.

[...]

Jan 28, 2018 19:12:01 GMT 1 PS said:

Happy Sunday folks 😀 still keen to pick up a Duck from the Muck, had a few notes but nothing tied up. Please pm to discuss.

Feb 6, 2018 11:30:23 GMT 1 PS said:

Now secured, thanks for all the PM's wouldn't mind another if I could work a deal, cheers.

Rationalising dishonest behaviour is a pretty simple exercise. The self-serving justifications won't always be convincing, but there are certainly plenty to choose from. All that's required is a bit of imagination. Raskolnikov himself came up with arguably credible reasons for murdering and stealing from Alyona Ivanovna.

However, the mental gymnastics become trickier in some situations. This is the case if we've previously made ethics-based comments which leave us exposed to accusations of applying double standards when it suits us, i.e. whenever it's in our selfish interest. Being amoral is more comfortable than being a hypocrite — because the latter places us in an unpleasant state of cognitive dissonance.

_________


So the following question is especially for members and moderators who've criticised the removal and sale of street pieces in the past, and who are remaining silent in this 'In search of' thread:

Consider the activity openly taking place here. What we have is trade in stolen goods being facilitated by the Urban Art Association.

Now, in what way is this scenario any more defensible than posts by chancing thieves advertising the sale of stolen street art?

Because it was Dismaland and there were no rules. I won loads of bling but when they decided not to give it to me I just took it when their back was turned! And then gave it away to some girl on the dance floor ha

[Steph Rat Catcher]

Dice you old charmer you xx 😘

[Dice]

Feb 7, 2018 22:52:50 GMT 1 Steph Rat Catcher said:

Dice you old charmer you xx 😘

You know me where have you been hiding?’

[met]

Feb 7, 2018 22:42:25 GMT 1 Dice said:

Feb 7, 2018 10:58:44 GMT 1 met said:

[...]



[...]

So the following question is especially for members and moderators who've criticised the removal and sale of street pieces in the past, and who are remaining silent in this 'In search of' thread:

Consider the activity openly taking place here. What we have is trade in stolen goods being facilitated by the Urban Art Association.

Now, in what way is this scenario any more defensible than posts by chancing thieves advertising the sale of stolen street art?

Because it was Dismaland and there were no rules. I won loads of bling but when they decided not to give it to me I just took it when their back was turned! And then gave it away to some girl on the dance floor ha

That position can indeed be argued, although from my perspective it raises two difficulties:


1.  A "no rules" stance is only credible when there's some consensus between the relevant parties.

Dismaland could for example have announced it had an "anything goes" policy. That each visitor could do exactly as they pleased. Like vandalising the installations, assaulting the staff, or stealing the artwork and parts of the attractions.

But this wasn't the case — at least not with respect to the ducks, which were in constant use and required for the Hook-A-Duck game. That hand-painted sign offers express confirmation. It pretty much says, "Please do not be a selfish prat by stealing from us. Because it fucks things up for other visitors who wish to participate."

[The fact there was an actual need to display the sign is rather tragic in itself. It brings to mind notices on buses or the tube which state the bleeding obvious — where people have to be told to give up their seats for elderly or pregnant passengers.]


2.  Yes, we could in theory try to defend a "no rules" stance in relation to what was clearly private property at Dismaland. It would help legitimise the selling on this forum of random items (including the ducks) nicked from the organisers of that remarkable exhibition.

However, if we do embrace such a position, then it can also be used (and perhaps more convincingly) regarding street art pieces. To illustrate, if I were ripping down works in East London and selling them here, I'd be throwing your argument straight back at you: "The streets have no rules. And even if they did, there'd be fewer rules in public streets than at a ticketed event like Dismaland."


So my original question remains: In what way is advertising to buy stolen private property any more defensible than posts by chancing thieves advertising the sale of stolen street art?

[Rouen Cathedral]

Feb 10, 2018 5:22:36 GMT 1 met said:

Feb 7, 2018 22:42:25 GMT 1 Dice said:

Because it was Dismaland and there were no rules. I won loads of bling but when they decided not to give it to me I just took it when their back was turned! And then gave it away to some girl on the dance floor ha

That position can indeed be argued, although from my perspective it raises two difficulties:


1.  A "no rules" stance is only credible when there's some consensus between the relevant parties.

Dismaland could for example have announced it had an "anything goes" policy. That each visitor could do exactly as they pleased. Like vandalising the installations, assaulting the staff, or stealing the artwork and parts of the attractions.

But this wasn't the case — at least not with respect to the ducks, which were in constant use and required for the Hook-A-Duck game. That hand-painted sign offers express confirmation. It pretty much says, "Please do not be a selfish prat by stealing from us. Because it fucks things up for other visitors who wish to participate."

[The fact there was an actual need to display the sign is rather tragic in itself. It brings to mind notices on buses or the tube which state the bleeding obvious — where people have to be told to give up their seats for elderly or pregnant passengers.]


2.  Yes, we could in theory try to defend a "no rules" stance in relation to what was clearly private property at Dismaland. It would help legitimise the selling on this forum of random items (including the ducks) nicked from the organisers of that remarkable exhibition.

However, if we do embrace such a position, then it can also be used (and perhaps more convincingly) regarding street art pieces. To illustrate, if I were ripping down works in East London and selling them here, I'd be throwing your argument straight back at you: "The streets have no rules. And even if they did, there'd be fewer rules in public streets than at a ticketed event like Dismaland."


So my original question remains: In what way is advertising to buy stolen private property any more defensible than posts by chancing thieves advertising the sale of stolen street art?

You are over thinking. Your two points contradict each other.

And The no steal sign was a piece of art. Not an actually sign.

[Lroy]

Anyway, easy to have these ducks ! Bought exactly the same ones for 2 euros in a toys shop, for the bath of my kids.
You will not have no proof that it is a Dismaland one.
As sand... Even bling ..

[jellya]

I heard there were fake Shrigley balloons on ebay? This seller has 'genuine' and new ones. Are they legit?

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Banksy-Dismaland-I-Am-An-Imbecile-Balloon-Rare-David-Shrigley/302657974333

[Pysgod]

Mar 11, 2018 15:46:00 GMT 1 jellya said:

I heard there were fake Shrigley balloons on ebay? This seller has 'genuine' and new ones. Are they legit?

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Banksy-Dismaland-I-Am-An-Imbecile-Balloon-Rare-David-Shrigley/302657974333

Looks like he has sold more than 10 in the last six months,  steer clear imo.

[settingson]

Mar 11, 2018 15:46:00 GMT 1 jellya said:

I heard there were fake Shrigley balloons on ebay? This seller has 'genuine' and new ones. Are they legit?

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Banksy-Dismaland-I-Am-An-Imbecile-Balloon-Rare-David-Shrigley/302657974333

I seem to remember this guy was selling just after Dismaland took place, I bought 2 from him at the time and they seemed ok to me. Was a strange one as he never sells anything else remotely similar to these or any other art related items. My thoughts at the time was that he had somehow acquired a box of them and he has sold them steadily since. Couldn't tell you if mine were actually fake or not as didn't have a comparison but he was definitely selling around the time of Dismaland which seemed a little early for copies to be popping up. My little tale doesn't really confirm anything unfortunately but thought it may be of interest

[sleazus1slord]

There's a lot of Darren Cullen stuff too. The pocket money payday loans for kids set has a tshirt, poster, and play money. A join the military fold out poster, stickers, postcards, buttons, etc.

Jimmy Cauty's model village pamphlet guide, he also did a run of riot shields for dland. Could also buy miniatures from the model village for a short while, those look pretty cool in the glass dome display cases. 

There were sprayed canvases with the dland logo available the first weekend, they've been knocked off 1000 ways from sunday.

I got a few banksy stamped american depress cards that were claimed to have been found at dismaland the second week it was open.

There's a signed numbered run(150) of the james joyce 'Here for a good time, not a long time' image that adorns the program cover.

Sellers on thabay with stamped bills, canvases they bought outside the park from a homeless looking guy for 40 quid, or anything with a coa is completely bunk. The only provenance for anything bought in the store is a receipt, not unlike the hotel.

[FЯ]

Mar 11, 2018 21:40:50 GMT 1 sleazus1slord said:

There's a lot of Darren Cullen stuff too. The pocket money payday loans for kids set has a tshirt, poster, and play money. A join the military fold out poster, stickers, postcards, buttons, etc.

Jimmy Cauty's model village pamphlet guide, he also did a run of riot shields for dland. Could also buy miniatures from the model village for a short while, those look pretty cool in the glass dome display cases. 

There were sprayed canvases with the dland logo available the first weekend, they've been knocked off 1000 ways from sunday.

I got a few banksy stamped american depress cards that were claimed to have been found at dismaland the second week it was open.

There's a signed numbered run(150) of the james joyce 'Here for a good time, not a long time' image that adorns the program cover.

Sellers on thabay with stamped bills, canvases they bought outside the park from a homeless looking guy for 40 quid, or anything with a coa is completely bunk. The only provenance for anything bought in the store is a receipt, not unlike the hotel.

The canvas were fake at all times, no such thing as banksy depress cards - that is dface.
Stamped things are all fake. 

[sleazus1slord]

You quote me to say that stamped things are all fake, yet can't take the time to provide a list for op.

You're a really 'cool guy' thanks for blessing me with this thoughtless murmur.

I've been painting trains more days than you have posts on this forum.

[Carl Cashman]

Mar 12, 2018 4:32:01 GMT 1 sleazus1slord said:

You quote me to say that stamped things are all fake, yet can't take the time to provide a list for op.

You're a really 'cool guy' thanks for blessing me with this thoughtless murmur.

I've been painting trains more days than you have posts on this forum.

Train painting aside, he is correct about the canvas and cards. I was there for the vip night and 100% no logo canvass were in the shop. There was a influx of 'dropped' stuff left around the venue that was left by other artists, possibly the same ones that were painting banksy type works outside and sending the images to the wsm gazette.. or what ever the local paper is called.

[FЯ]

Mar 12, 2018 4:32:01 GMT 1 sleazus1slord said:

You quote me to say that stamped things are all fake, yet can't take the time to provide a list for op.

You're a really 'cool guy' thanks for blessing me with this thoughtless murmur.

I've been painting trains more days than you have posts on this forum.

Who the fuck paints trains in 2018

[Steph Rat Catcher]

Mar 12, 2018 8:54:43 GMT 1 FЯ said:

Mar 12, 2018 4:32:01 GMT 1 sleazus1slord said:

You quote me to say that stamped things are all fake, yet can't take the time to provide a list for op.

You're a really 'cool guy' thanks for blessing me with this thoughtless murmur.

I've been painting trains more days than you have posts on this forum.

Who the f**kpaints trains in 2018

richard branson ?

[Deleted]

Who the f**kpaints trains in 2018? > 1UP Crew

[overend]

Gareth Edwards the rugby legend tagged a train the other day. Wonder if Banksy will turn up to do his when it’s named!

[overend]

Thanks for the list Romulus. Couple of things spring to mind but apologies if I missed them on your list.

Banksy - Cinderella coach photo with guest or a few blanks

Tip the Anvil - Seem to recall there was a Shrigley badge as well as a band?

Paul Insect/Bast - Did they do the stuffed bears that were in the shop?

[Carl Cashman]

Mar 12, 2018 12:08:32 GMT 1 overend said:

Thanks for the list Romulus. Couple of things spring to mind but apologies if I missed them on your list.

Banksy - Cinderella coach photo with guest or a few blanks

Tip the Anvil - Seem to recall there was a Shrigley badge as well as a band?

Paul Insect/Bast - Did they do the stuffed bears that were in the shop?

No bears, just pendants on the stall

[GMA]

I'm sure I've got a pile of them Jimmy Cauty leaflets at home. I'll have a look and see if anyone is interested.