bairbl
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by bairbl on Jun 4, 2015 18:36:07 GMT 1, Did anyone except like maybe one person call this a failure? I said I didn't think it would sell out, or at least certainly not for a while, and then I bought one, even though I think the price is high. Complaining doesn't = calling it a failure. If anything, the more people complaining, the more people that want the print and just don't want to pull the trigger at that price. Doesn't mean they won't eventually, or that they don't like it. "I don't like this print at that price" or "this price isn't worth it" just means "I don't want to pay that". To each his own.
Did anyone except like maybe one person call this a failure? I said I didn't think it would sell out, or at least certainly not for a while, and then I bought one, even though I think the price is high. Complaining doesn't = calling it a failure. If anything, the more people complaining, the more people that want the print and just don't want to pull the trigger at that price. Doesn't mean they won't eventually, or that they don't like it. "I don't like this print at that price" or "this price isn't worth it" just means "I don't want to pay that". To each his own.
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T-Bro
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by T-Bro on Jun 4, 2015 18:46:43 GMT 1, You can get a framed original piece by Hellbent for the same price as this print.... A gallery trying to poach sales from another gallery's thread. Things must be getting tough in the street art world. I have to agree - seems a little underhand
You can get a framed original piece by Hellbent for the same price as this print.... A gallery trying to poach sales from another gallery's thread. Things must be getting tough in the street art world. I have to agree - seems a little underhand
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 18:56:58 GMT 1, You guys are funny, actively hoping an artist's release is a failure. What do any of you gain from that? I think the same can be said from people who already own Maya prints wanting to see it succeed. That they want to see this sell well because they think it might mean their print will continute to gain value
You guys are funny, actively hoping an artist's release is a failure. What do any of you gain from that? I think the same can be said from people who already own Maya prints wanting to see it succeed. That they want to see this sell well because they think it might mean their print will continute to gain value
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trax51
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by trax51 on Jun 4, 2015 18:58:01 GMT 1, Classic discussion in here.... as for any releases from " Hot artists" (daleast, Whatson , hayuk, etc...) I do personnaly believe the price is high, but in line with secondary market price... So joining the view of someone earlier who said profits should go in pockets of arfists & "producers" rathers than flippers.... I Totally agree with that view!
Even if sometime it's hard for us, "normal" collectors to accept that view, it's part of the fame... No Risk No fun
That said, I am convinced that those who managed to bag one today are not likely to regret It in a couple of years time (if they can hold that long...you flippers )
Cheers from Bali TraX
Classic discussion in here.... as for any releases from " Hot artists" (daleast, Whatson , hayuk, etc...) I do personnaly believe the price is high, but in line with secondary market price... So joining the view of someone earlier who said profits should go in pockets of arfists & "producers" rathers than flippers.... I Totally agree with that view! Even if sometime it's hard for us, "normal" collectors to accept that view, it's part of the fame... No Risk No fun That said, I am convinced that those who managed to bag one today are not likely to regret It in a couple of years time (if they can hold that long...you flippers ) Cheers from Bali TraX
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by trax51 on Jun 4, 2015 18:59:23 GMT 1, It's part of the Game.... Obviously
It's part of the Game.... Obviously
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bairbl
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by bairbl on Jun 4, 2015 19:06:00 GMT 1, randomname said:
It's a shame their carting system won't let you check the inventory. But that's the point, I suppose.
If only 5 sold that shouldn't affect your desire for the piece or your feelings about already buying one. I'm truly amazed they are selling at all at that price. If this piece is bought for anything more than colors on the wall you are flushing the money down the toilet.
This actually isn't totally correct. A person's desire for something is one factor in the equation that forms their willingness to pay. If none of them sold, one's willingness to pay would most likely go down. So while my desire for the piece remains the same, my willingness to pay changes. This is why if it said there was only one print left, it would probably sell instantly, because someone who's on the fence might increase their willingness to pay based on the new information they have.
e.g. My desire for milk is equal when I run out, but I pay more at the gas station across the street than the grocery store five miles away because of convenience.
randomname said:
It's a shame their carting system won't let you check the inventory. But that's the point, I suppose.
If only 5 sold that shouldn't affect your desire for the piece or your feelings about already buying one. I'm truly amazed they are selling at all at that price. If this piece is bought for anything more than colors on the wall you are flushing the money down the toilet.
This actually isn't totally correct. A person's desire for something is one factor in the equation that forms their willingness to pay. If none of them sold, one's willingness to pay would most likely go down. So while my desire for the piece remains the same, my willingness to pay changes. This is why if it said there was only one print left, it would probably sell instantly, because someone who's on the fence might increase their willingness to pay based on the new information they have.
e.g. My desire for milk is equal when I run out, but I pay more at the gas station across the street than the grocery store five miles away because of convenience.
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nighthawk
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by nighthawk on Jun 4, 2015 19:11:12 GMT 1, This will sell out, it's just a matter of when. And when it does, people will attempt to re-sell it at a markup. This shouldn't shock anyone here. I think it's also safe to say that the majority of Maya's fans/clients probably don't hang out here, so yes, obviously galleries will snatch these up, and then sell them at "said marked-up price" to "said fan-base".
Everyone made a big stink about Multiverses 2 being $1k + shipping (which worked out to close to $1100). That was a run of 30+ and they refunded quite a few if I remeber correctly. This one is $1425 shipped (to the USA), so I'm guessing it's gone soon
This will sell out, it's just a matter of when. And when it does, people will attempt to re-sell it at a markup. This shouldn't shock anyone here. I think it's also safe to say that the majority of Maya's fans/clients probably don't hang out here, so yes, obviously galleries will snatch these up, and then sell them at "said marked-up price" to "said fan-base". Everyone made a big stink about Multiverses 2 being $1k + shipping (which worked out to close to $1100). That was a run of 30+ and they refunded quite a few if I remeber correctly. This one is $1425 shipped (to the USA), so I'm guessing it's gone soon
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rjf76
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by rjf76 on Jun 4, 2015 19:16:32 GMT 1, Who's going to be the first to say they purchased one? I do like it, but one can only hang so much Maya unfortunately.ย i bagged in today a prefab77 Amsterdame GOLD....stunning !!ย Me too??
Who's going to be the first to say they purchased one? I do like it, but one can only hang so much Maya unfortunately.ย i bagged in today a prefab77 Amsterdame GOLD....stunning !!ย Me too? ?
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rjf76
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by rjf76 on Jun 4, 2015 19:25:17 GMT 1, Gone back up to ยฃ960?! Guess they need that extra ยฃ10
Gone back up to ยฃ960?! Guess they need that extra ยฃ10
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cyberkid
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by cyberkid on Jun 4, 2015 19:28:00 GMT 1, i bagged in today a prefab77 Amsterdame GOLD....stunning !! Me too? ? gold/gold x/10
i bagged in today a prefab77 Amsterdame GOLD....stunning !! Me too? ? gold/gold x/10
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by Fะฏ on Jun 4, 2015 19:28:39 GMT 1, Still up!
Still up!
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rjf76
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by rjf76 on Jun 4, 2015 19:29:33 GMT 1,
Me too! (Last quote wasn't meant to have question marks ha ha)
Me too! (Last quote wasn't meant to have question marks ha ha)
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bairbl
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by bairbl on Jun 4, 2015 19:30:16 GMT 1, If they try to backcharge me the 10 extra quid I'm out.
If they try to backcharge me the 10 extra quid I'm out.
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by Fะฏ on Jun 4, 2015 19:30:35 GMT 1, It's a shame their carting system won't let you check the inventory. But that's the point, I suppose. If only 5 sold that shouldn't affect your desire for the piece or your feelings about already buying one. I'm truly amazed they are selling at all at that price. If this piece is bought for anything more than colors on the wall you are flushing the money down the toilet. Those interested in it being popular are only in it for one thing.
It's a shame their carting system won't let you check the inventory. But that's the point, I suppose. If only 5 sold that shouldn't affect your desire for the piece or your feelings about already buying one. I'm truly amazed they are selling at all at that price. If this piece is bought for anything more than colors on the wall you are flushing the money down the toilet. Those interested in it being popular are only in it for one thing.
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WOOF
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by WOOF on Jun 4, 2015 19:36:25 GMT 1, You guys are funny, actively hoping an artist's release is a failure. What do any of you gain from that? I think the same can be said from people who already own Maya prints wanting to see it succeed. That they want to see this sell well because they think it might mean their print will continute to gain value That didn't answer my question at all, so i'm gonna go ahead and disagree with you. The question was what do people have to gain by Maya failing? I pity the people that can't make their own shit, and so they hate on others. At least she isn't trying to rip off other artists work...
You guys are funny, actively hoping an artist's release is a failure. What do any of you gain from that? I think the same can be said from people who already own Maya prints wanting to see it succeed. That they want to see this sell well because they think it might mean their print will continute to gain value That didn't answer my question at all, so i'm gonna go ahead and disagree with you. The question was what do people have to gain by Maya failing? I pity the people that can't make their own shit, and so they hate on others. At least she isn't trying to rip off other artists work...
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bairbl
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by bairbl on Jun 4, 2015 19:37:58 GMT 1, If only 5 sold that shouldn't affect your desire for the piece or your feelings about already buying one. I'm truly amazed they are selling at all at that price. If this piece is bought for anything more than colors on the wall you are flushing the money down the toilet. Those interested in it being popular are only in it for one thing.
You guys seem to be mixing up one's desire for something with one's willingness to pay for it. Clean water is pretty darn popular, and even if it somehow wasn't, I would still pay a fortune for it, but my willingness to pay is based on the market price which is based on a number of factors, including others' willingness to pay. If you were willing to pay the gallery's price, but it was selling on eBay for $5, you wouldn't pay $1,500 for it. And since whether or not it sells out will eventually affect its secondary market value, then you do care how many sell. Or money and value doesn't matter to you. Which is possible as well. Bill Gates certainly doesn't care how much this cost or whether or not it sells out, even at 1,000 times the price.
If only 5 sold that shouldn't affect your desire for the piece or your feelings about already buying one. I'm truly amazed they are selling at all at that price. If this piece is bought for anything more than colors on the wall you are flushing the money down the toilet. Those interested in it being popular are only in it for one thing. You guys seem to be mixing up one's desire for something with one's willingness to pay for it. Clean water is pretty darn popular, and even if it somehow wasn't, I would still pay a fortune for it, but my willingness to pay is based on the market price which is based on a number of factors, including others' willingness to pay. If you were willing to pay the gallery's price, but it was selling on eBay for $5, you wouldn't pay $1,500 for it. And since whether or not it sells out will eventually affect its secondary market value, then you do care how many sell. Or money and value doesn't matter to you. Which is possible as well. Bill Gates certainly doesn't care how much this cost or whether or not it sells out, even at 1,000 times the price.
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 19:41:28 GMT 1, Gone back up to ยฃ960?! Guess they need that extra ยฃ10 I hope print them all comes on here later and clears up that they were on sale when I said, and for ยฃ950. I know it doesn't matter, but I don't like people thinking I was lying!
It was 950 Pounds wish I had took a screenshot bugger! Not quick draw Mcgraw here!
Gone back up to ยฃ960?! Guess they need that extra ยฃ10 I hope print them all comes on here later and clears up that they were on sale when I said, and for ยฃ950. I know it doesn't matter, but I don't like people thinking I was lying! It was 950 Pounds wish I had took a screenshot bugger! Not quick draw Mcgraw here!
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 19:45:13 GMT 1, Gone back up to ยฃ960?! Guess they need that extra ยฃ10 that's $15 bucks extra they charged me after the conversion rate! Awesome sauce!
Gone back up to ยฃ960?! Guess they need that extra ยฃ10 that's $15 bucks extra they charged me after the conversion rate! Awesome sauce!
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by Dr Plip on Jun 4, 2015 19:51:59 GMT 1, Gone back up to ยฃ960?! Guess they need that extra ยฃ10 That's a shame. That ยฃ10 could have bought a Selwyns sleeve to store the print in.
Gone back up to ยฃ960?! Guess they need that extra ยฃ10 That's a shame. That ยฃ10 could have bought a Selwyns sleeve to store the print in.
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by WOOF on Jun 4, 2015 19:54:53 GMT 1, Gone back up to ยฃ960?! Guess they need that extra ยฃ10 That's a shame. That ยฃ10 could have bought a Selwyns sleeve to store the print in. Where are you getting ยฃ10 selwyn sleeves??
Gone back up to ยฃ960?! Guess they need that extra ยฃ10 That's a shame. That ยฃ10 could have bought a Selwyns sleeve to store the print in. Where are you getting ยฃ10 selwyn sleeves??
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Dr Plip
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by Dr Plip on Jun 4, 2015 20:00:26 GMT 1, That's a shame. That ยฃ10 could have bought a Selwyns sleeve to store the print in. Where are you getting ยฃ10 selwyn sleeves?? Sorry. Should have said "gone towards a Selwyns sleeve.."
That's a shame. That ยฃ10 could have bought a Selwyns sleeve to store the print in. Where are you getting ยฃ10 selwyn sleeves?? Sorry. Should have said "gone towards a Selwyns sleeve.."
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WOOF
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by WOOF on Jun 4, 2015 20:01:16 GMT 1, Where are you getting ยฃ10 selwyn sleeves?? Sorry. Should have said "gone towards a Selwyns sleeve.." I knew that was too good to be true haha
Where are you getting ยฃ10 selwyn sleeves?? Sorry. Should have said "gone towards a Selwyns sleeve.." I knew that was too good to be true haha
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by randomname on Jun 4, 2015 20:24:04 GMT 1, It's a shame their carting system won't let you check the inventory. But that's the point, I suppose. If only 5 sold that shouldn't affect your desire for the piece or your feelings about already buying one. I'm truly amazed they are selling at all at that price. If this piece is bought for anything more than colors on the wall you are flushing the money down the toilet. It wouldn't. I'm just curious to know how many people actually bought one at this price.
It's a shame their carting system won't let you check the inventory. But that's the point, I suppose. If only 5 sold that shouldn't affect your desire for the piece or your feelings about already buying one. I'm truly amazed they are selling at all at that price. If this piece is bought for anything more than colors on the wall you are flushing the money down the toilet. It wouldn't. I'm just curious to know how many people actually bought one at this price.
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 20:50:41 GMT 1, count me as one! And my brother at number 2!
count me as one! And my brother at number 2!
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bairbl
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by bairbl on Jun 4, 2015 20:53:03 GMT 1, count me as one! And my brother at number 2!
Me in also. And a friend. And someone else from this thread also. So there's 94 left lol.
count me as one! And my brother at number 2! Me in also. And a friend. And someone else from this thread also. So there's 94 left lol.
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by M on Jun 4, 2015 21:08:37 GMT 1, Instead of economic analysis you did before. it looks like Zevs for Rainbow's art fans IMO yaiks
Instead of economic analysis you did before. it looks like Zevs for Rainbow's art fans IMO yaiks
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rjf76
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by rjf76 on Jun 4, 2015 21:57:46 GMT 1, Gone back up to ยฃ960?! Guess they need that extra ยฃ10 I hope print them all comes on here later and clears up that they were on sale when I said, and for ยฃ950. I know it doesn't matter, but I don't like people thinking I was lying!
I saw it for ยฃ950 too??
Gone back up to ยฃ960?! Guess they need that extra ยฃ10 I hope print them all comes on here later and clears up that they were on sale when I said, and for ยฃ950. I know it doesn't matter, but I don't like people thinking I was lying! I saw it for ยฃ950 too? ?
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by badbay on Jun 4, 2015 22:48:28 GMT 1, I have been waiting for a Maya for a while now but this one doesn't do it for me it just seems a little too busy compared to some other of her works. I prefer the brighter cleaner lines.
I'm all for pricing something at market value. I would much rather the money went to the artist than the flippers. When something is priced too low it sells out immediately and half of them end up on the secondary market. It also creates a distorted picture if an artists popularity. It looks like they have got it wrong though this time the price is too high.
I would like to see prints with coas that can't be transferred for x months/years to deter flipping
I have been waiting for a Maya for a while now but this one doesn't do it for me it just seems a little too busy compared to some other of her works. I prefer the brighter cleaner lines.
I'm all for pricing something at market value. I would much rather the money went to the artist than the flippers. When something is priced too low it sells out immediately and half of them end up on the secondary market. It also creates a distorted picture if an artists popularity. It looks like they have got it wrong though this time the price is too high.
I would like to see prints with coas that can't be transferred for x months/years to deter flipping
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natstan
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by natstan on Jun 5, 2015 0:51:19 GMT 1, You guys are funny, actively hoping an artist's release is a failure. What do any of you gain from that?
What gain you ask? if this sells out, the works you are holding may have gone up in value. But there is also a chance the next print will be over ยฃ1k. That's not good for you or new collectors. You can't see that coming?
You guys are funny, actively hoping an artist's release is a failure. What do any of you gain from that? What gain you ask? if this sells out, the works you are holding may have gone up in value. But there is also a chance the next print will be over ยฃ1k. That's not good for you or new collectors. You can't see that coming?
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natstan
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Maya Hayuk PTA print release, by natstan on Jun 5, 2015 1:08:37 GMT 1, With the greed showcased by Maya and co., I can certainly see why people are routing for a flop. Someone needs to have their enormous head popped.
It's funny you should say that. I had wanted to use that very word greed but stayed on the sideline, ha. While I am not sure if the pricing is determined by MH herself, my earlier email interactions with her, as I mentioned here, have been less than pleasant. 'Enormous head' seems to describe that pretty well - she did give me that impression (now, this is just my own opinion).
I do like some of her works but I do not agree with what she said to me and how she acts during that dealing. When promises made were not kept, it's very hard not to get upset. And it's very hard to remain a supporter after that. No go for this one whatever the price is.
With the greed showcased by Maya and co., I can certainly see why people are routing for a flop. Someone needs to have their enormous head popped. It's funny you should say that. I had wanted to use that very word greed but stayed on the sideline, ha. While I am not sure if the pricing is determined by MH herself, my earlier email interactions with her, as I mentioned here, have been less than pleasant. 'Enormous head' seems to describe that pretty well - she did give me that impression (now, this is just my own opinion). I do like some of her works but I do not agree with what she said to me and how she acts during that dealing. When promises made were not kept, it's very hard not to get upset. And it's very hard to remain a supporter after that. No go for this one whatever the price is.
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