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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by jonpud on Feb 25, 2009 10:39:47 GMT 1, Does all this mean we won't see a bun fight for the next Banksy release!? ;D
Can you imagine his next release being available for several months before selling out, like it was back in 2003? ;D
Does all this mean we won't see a bun fight for the next Banksy release!? ;D
Can you imagine his next release being available for several months before selling out, like it was back in 2003? ;D
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Guest on Feb 25, 2009 10:43:25 GMT 1, maybe some editioned canvas online! @2003 prices
maybe some editioned canvas online! @2003 prices
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by buffin on Feb 25, 2009 10:43:52 GMT 1, Does all this mean we won't see a bun fight for the next Banksy release!? ;D Can you imagine his next release being available for several months before selling out, like it was back in 2003? ;D
A possibility if they are priced at market value instead of boot sale prices.
Does all this mean we won't see a bun fight for the next Banksy release!? ;D Can you imagine his next release being available for several months before selling out, like it was back in 2003? ;D A possibility if they are priced at market value instead of boot sale prices. |
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Feb 25, 2009 10:48:29 GMT 1, The Nola was bought direct from the Artist. Do you think Banksy has any views on his stuff going so quickly into auction?
The Nola was bought direct from the Artist. Do you think Banksy has any views on his stuff going so quickly into auction?
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by funster on Feb 25, 2009 10:50:39 GMT 1, is it any surprise the kates didnt sell? after all, they are 6 prints of the same image in different colours, think how many originals you could get for ยฃ100k+fee's 20 full size herakut canvases 3 or 4 adam neate gallery originals a big parla original a good few KAWS canvases and even 2 or 3 banksy originals so its no surprise to me that these prints did not sell
I'm very surprised they didn't sell. To be honest if I'd realised you could have picked them up for that price I would have been extremely tempted to put a consortium together to buy them. Bottom line is are they worth morth than ยฃ16,500 each? Yes. Therefore someone could have made a smart profit by buying them all and splitting them into 6 lots.
is it any surprise the kates didnt sell? after all, they are 6 prints of the same image in different colours, think how many originals you could get for ยฃ100k+fee's 20 full size herakut canvases 3 or 4 adam neate gallery originals a big parla original a good few KAWS canvases and even 2 or 3 banksy originals so its no surprise to me that these prints did not sell I'm very surprised they didn't sell. To be honest if I'd realised you could have picked them up for that price I would have been extremely tempted to put a consortium together to buy them. Bottom line is are they worth morth than ยฃ16,500 each? Yes. Therefore someone could have made a smart profit by buying them all and splitting them into 6 lots. |
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by G-Man on Feb 25, 2009 10:59:44 GMT 1, is it any surprise the kates didnt sell? after all, they are 6 prints of the same image in different colours, think how many originals you could get for ยฃ100k+fee's 20 full size herakut canvases 3 or 4 adam neate gallery originals a big parla original a good few KAWS canvases and even 2 or 3 banksy originals so its no surprise to me that these prints did not sell I'm very surprised they didn't sell. To be honest if I'd realised you could have picked them up for that price I would have been extremely tempted to put a consortium together to buy them. Bottom line is are they worth morth than ยฃ16,500 each? Yes. Therefore someone could have made a smart profit by buying them all and splitting them into 6 lots.
I agree I am surprised that someone didn't do this too
is it any surprise the kates didnt sell? after all, they are 6 prints of the same image in different colours, think how many originals you could get for ยฃ100k+fee's 20 full size herakut canvases 3 or 4 adam neate gallery originals a big parla original a good few KAWS canvases and even 2 or 3 banksy originals so its no surprise to me that these prints did not sell I'm very surprised they didn't sell. To be honest if I'd realised you could have picked them up for that price I would have been extremely tempted to put a consortium together to buy them. Bottom line is are they worth morth than ยฃ16,500 each? Yes. Therefore someone could have made a smart profit by buying them all and splitting them into 6 lots. I agree I am surprised that someone didn't do this too |
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by wiz on Feb 25, 2009 11:01:51 GMT 1, Hindsight is a killer, it eats away at us sometimes.
Hindsight is a killer, it eats away at us sometimes.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Richard on Feb 25, 2009 11:02:10 GMT 1, I doubt you would get ยฃ16.5k for each of them. Maybe ยฃ20k for the best 2 - but the rest I bet between 10 and 15k. I reckon anyway!
I doubt you would get ยฃ16.5k for each of them. Maybe ยฃ20k for the best 2 - but the rest I bet between 10 and 15k. I reckon anyway!
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by funster on Feb 25, 2009 11:04:46 GMT 1, Hindsight is a killer, it eats away at us sometimes.
Thankfully in this case Wiz I think it's more of a relief. Think of the nightmares attached with trying to flog 6 Kate's in this market - she could haunt you forever!!
Hindsight is a killer, it eats away at us sometimes. Thankfully in this case Wiz I think it's more of a relief. Think of the nightmares attached with trying to flog 6 Kate's in this market - she could haunt you forever!! |
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by wiz on Feb 25, 2009 11:08:41 GMT 1, Buy the six... burn four...edition now rarer.....inflate price accordingly.... sell one and stash one..... if only it was as simple. I agree though, sometimes its a relief not to buy something!.
Buy the six... burn four...edition now rarer.....inflate price accordingly.... sell one and stash one..... if only it was as simple. I agree though, sometimes its a relief not to buy something!.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by howlinjack on Feb 25, 2009 11:57:58 GMT 1, I'm very surprised they didn't sell. To be honest if I'd realised you could have picked them up for that price I would have been extremely tempted to put a consortium together to buy them. Bottom line is are they worth morth than ยฃ16,500 each? Yes. Therefore someone could have made a smart profit by buying them all and splitting them into 6 lots. I agree I am surprised that someone didn't do this too
i was going to do this with some mates on a set of signed LA prints. didnt work out as all of us wanted trolley's!
I'm very surprised they didn't sell. To be honest if I'd realised you could have picked them up for that price I would have been extremely tempted to put a consortium together to buy them. Bottom line is are they worth morth than ยฃ16,500 each? Yes. Therefore someone could have made a smart profit by buying them all and splitting them into 6 lots. I agree I am surprised that someone didn't do this too i was going to do this with some mates on a set of signed LA prints. didnt work out as all of us wanted trolley's! |
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by edcase on Feb 25, 2009 15:41:21 GMT 1, D*Face had a really strong auction and all his pieces sold well. I was surprised the Supine didnt sell considering what his recent pieces have sold for.
Does anyone know if they were proper collages, or wheatpastes?
I have to say I'm one of his biggest fans, but neither of these pieces do much for me.
D*Face had a really strong auction and all his pieces sold well. I was surprised the Supine didnt sell considering what his recent pieces have sold for. Does anyone know if they were proper collages, or wheatpastes? I have to say I'm one of his biggest fans, but neither of these pieces do much for me. |
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by robo on Feb 25, 2009 15:45:17 GMT 1, I'm rather chuffed...
I'm rather chuffed... |
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by wiz on Feb 25, 2009 15:45:21 GMT 1, The one at Dreweatts is a nice chunk Edcase.
The one at Dreweatts is a nice chunk Edcase.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by edcase on Feb 25, 2009 15:46:23 GMT 1, The one at Dreweatts is a nice chunk Edcase.
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 
Dreweatt who? 
The one at Dreweatts is a nice chunk Edcase. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Dreweatt who? |
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by edcase on Feb 25, 2009 15:47:13 GMT 1, I'm rather chuffed...
Yup, really feeling xenz atm. Nice buy.
I'm rather chuffed... Yup, really feeling xenz atm. Nice buy. |
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Feb 25, 2009 15:50:03 GMT 1, I'm rather chuffed...
i wish i bid on that one and a few of the banksy and neate's so cheap imo
great buy well done
I'm rather chuffed... i wish i bid on that one and a few of the banksy and neate's so cheap imo great buy well done |
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by snausages on Feb 25, 2009 15:50:52 GMT 1, ยฃ241,848 was the total selling price. I believe Bonhams would have made circa ยฃ40k on the night (taking into account VAT), which I doubt leaves them with much, if any, 'real' profit after advertising, staff, wine, etc etc. The total value of unsold Lots based on the High Est is ยฃ426,500. If this figure was achieved a further ยฃ80k would have been added to the coffers.
Didn't spend a lot of time on the math but I don't think you figured in the sellers premium which would make it about ยฃ40k + about ยฃ20k - I think it's probably a good deal to them?
And I would not be surprised if a few of those Banksy originals are placed in after auction sales generating further revenue.
ยฃ241,848 was the total selling price. I believe Bonhams would have made circa ยฃ40k on the night (taking into account VAT), which I doubt leaves them with much, if any, 'real' profit after advertising, staff, wine, etc etc. The total value of unsold Lots based on the High Est is ยฃ426,500. If this figure was achieved a further ยฃ80k would have been added to the coffers. Didn't spend a lot of time on the math but I don't think you figured in the sellers premium which would make it about ยฃ40k + about ยฃ20k - I think it's probably a good deal to them? And I would not be surprised if a few of those Banksy originals are placed in after auction sales generating further revenue. |
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by robo on Feb 25, 2009 15:56:31 GMT 1, Thanks; have had my eye on his bird paintings for a while (since i first saw them fluttering around Bristol and as part of walls made with Eelus and Jago). This one is a huge chunk of aluminium (1.7m high) with so much going on in it - made with spray paint and gold leaf apparently.
By the way the upshot is I will probably now be selling a Xenz Birds and/or Spring - PM me if interested.
Thanks; have had my eye on his bird paintings for a while (since i first saw them fluttering around Bristol and as part of walls made with Eelus and Jago). This one is a huge chunk of aluminium (1.7m high) with so much going on in it - made with spray paint and gold leaf apparently.
By the way the upshot is I will probably now be selling a Xenz Birds and/or Spring - PM me if interested.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by robo on Feb 25, 2009 15:58:16 GMT 1, topboy - i've gotta say glad you didn't bid since it would have put the price up!
anyway, hope you got something you like or perhaps get something at the next auction comin up...
topboy - i've gotta say glad you didn't bid since it would have put the price up! anyway, hope you got something you like or perhaps get something at the next auction comin up... |
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Feb 25, 2009 16:00:57 GMT 1, topboy - i've gotta say glad you didn't bid since it would have put the price up! anyway, hope you got something you like or perhaps get something at the next auction comin up...
thanks, i get auction fever so i might just leave a bid on the book for the next action.
topboy - i've gotta say glad you didn't bid since it would have put the price up! anyway, hope you got something you like or perhaps get something at the next auction comin up... thanks, i get auction fever so i might just leave a bid on the book for the next action. |
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by lee3 on Feb 25, 2009 17:24:21 GMT 1, >>>very surprised they didn't sell. To be honest if I'd realized you could have picked them up for that price I would have been extremely tempted to put a consortium together to buy them. Bottom line is are they worth morth than ยฃ16,500 each? Yes<<<<
I will be shocked if they are not sold post auction by the house. There are plenty of dealers and collectors doing the exact same math you are doing at the moment. Everyone wants a deal and the greed side of the equation comes into play. I'll bet they've got a handful of offers already between 50 and 75k for the set and maybe a few above that as well. If I bought primarily for investment, i would be there in line making a bid. Besides, for dealers they would look nice hung in the gallery tempting tipsy tourists in the right neighborhoods.
>>>very surprised they didn't sell. To be honest if I'd realized you could have picked them up for that price I would have been extremely tempted to put a consortium together to buy them. Bottom line is are they worth morth than ยฃ16,500 each? Yes<<<<
I will be shocked if they are not sold post auction by the house. There are plenty of dealers and collectors doing the exact same math you are doing at the moment. Everyone wants a deal and the greed side of the equation comes into play. I'll bet they've got a handful of offers already between 50 and 75k for the set and maybe a few above that as well. If I bought primarily for investment, i would be there in line making a bid. Besides, for dealers they would look nice hung in the gallery tempting tipsy tourists in the right neighborhoods.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by funster on Feb 25, 2009 23:08:55 GMT 1, ยฃ241,848 was the total selling price. I believe Bonhams would have made circa ยฃ40k on the night (taking into account VAT), which I doubt leaves them with much, if any, 'real' profit after advertising, staff, wine, etc etc. The total value of unsold Lots based on the High Est is ยฃ426,500. If this figure was achieved a further ยฃ80k would have been added to the coffers. Didn't spend a lot of time on the math but I don't think you figured in the sellers premium which would make it about ยฃ40k + about ยฃ20k - I think it's probably a good deal to them? And I would not be surprised if a few of those Banksy originals are placed in after auction sales generating further revenue.
Great point, I totally forgot about the sellers premium. Thanks.
ยฃ241,848 was the total selling price. I believe Bonhams would have made circa ยฃ40k on the night (taking into account VAT), which I doubt leaves them with much, if any, 'real' profit after advertising, staff, wine, etc etc. The total value of unsold Lots based on the High Est is ยฃ426,500. If this figure was achieved a further ยฃ80k would have been added to the coffers. Didn't spend a lot of time on the math but I don't think you figured in the sellers premium which would make it about ยฃ40k + about ยฃ20k - I think it's probably a good deal to them? And I would not be surprised if a few of those Banksy originals are placed in after auction sales generating further revenue. Great point, I totally forgot about the sellers premium. Thanks. |
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by junkieart on Feb 25, 2009 23:13:12 GMT 1, Love that Xenz congrats mate.
Love that Xenz congrats mate.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by wiz on Mar 13, 2009 2:32:37 GMT 1, Well i dont know why i bothered posting this, been through the catalogue a zillion times and i still cant find anything to go for.
Well i dont know why i bothered posting this, been through the catalogue a zillion times and i still cant find anything to go for.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Mar 13, 2009 2:36:28 GMT 1, lat looks nice
Andy Warhol (American, 1928-1987) 'Noodle Soup'
Estimate: ยฃ1,500 - 2,000
lat looks nice
Andy Warhol (American, 1928-1987) 'Noodle Soup'
Estimate: ยฃ1,500 - 2,000
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Mar 13, 2009 2:39:51 GMT 1, and this
Damien Hirst (British, born 1965) 'I Once Was What You Are, You Will Be What I Am', 2006
Estimate: ยฃ600 - 800
that's cheap imo
and this
Damien Hirst (British, born 1965) 'I Once Was What You Are, You Will Be What I Am', 2006
Estimate: ยฃ600 - 800
that's cheap imo
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by wiz on Mar 17, 2009 11:38:55 GMT 1, Anyone off to this sale at Bonhams tomorrow?, not many contacts of mine in the Design world are interested , i have a feeling it will be a poor sale somehow, sorry Gareth and Pedro.
Anyone off to this sale at Bonhams tomorrow?, not many contacts of mine in the Design world are interested , i have a feeling it will be a poor sale somehow, sorry Gareth and Pedro.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Bram on Mar 18, 2009 12:16:45 GMT 1, some nice pieces in here. I love the Allen Jones especially.
some nice pieces in here. I love the Allen Jones especially.
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