Jason Seife 🇺🇸 Painting • Persian Rug Art

[iamzero]

Is that the bomb dropped then? Mystery artist revealed? ^^

[graffuturism]

Never was a fan now this just makes me hate the guy even more.

[aberdoom]

I'm not saying that at all!!

I have no idea who the artist on that thread!

So sorry to mislead anyone...

[Deleted]

Sometimes I am too obtuse, I can almost hit 180. Took me a while to digest the wink, wink, wink... Then it hit me.

The guy seems rather successful... What a pity.

[Deleted]

I saw some of his art on Tumblr.

Are these renaissance inspired artworks actual oïl paintings or collagy resin paste ups mish mashes with a bit of painty wainty?

[alittle]

He can definitely paint, but he seems to struggle with developing an identity of his own. Looks like someone took a few popular styles and threw it in a blender.

[randomname]

His Twitter is set to private. I've never seen an artist do that.

twitter.com/jasonseife

[randomname]

Dec 4, 2014 17:48:35 GMT 1 alittle said:

He can definitely paint, but he seems to struggle with developing an identity of his own. Looks like someone took a few popular styles and threw it in a blender.

He's got a little Jeremy Geddes going on with this one.



My overall opinion is he's got talent but maybe wasn't ready or mature enough for the amount of exposure he received. Seems the art world has a way of over hyping young artists before they have a chance to find their style.

[JAlternatión]

Dec 4, 2014 18:12:53 GMT 1 randomname said:

He's got a little Jeremy Geddes going on with this one.



My overall opinion is he's got talent but maybe wasn't ready or mature enough for the amount of exposure he received. Seems the art world has a way of over hyping young artists before they have a chance to find their style.

That's the orginal piece i bought that is coming to live with me (for 6 months anyway) next weekend.
I've only heard good things about him regarding commissions, so would be very surprised if he was the dodgy artist in the thread mentioned

[randomname]

He used to post on here a couple years ago. Seemed like a nice guy, so I hope it isn't him. If it is him, it feels more like a case of immaturity and maybe a poor work ethic than an all out scam artist.

[Poster Bob]

The other canvases looked even more.like the.work of Geddes
I'd say a third if his last show was made up of astronauts.

Dec 4, 2014 18:12:53 GMT 1 randomname said:

Dec 4, 2014 17:48:35 GMT 1 alittle said:

He can definitely paint, but he seems to struggle with developing an identity of his own. Looks like someone took a few popular styles and threw it in a blender.

He's got a little Jeremy Geddes going on with this one.



My overall opinion is he's got talent but maybe wasn't ready or mature enough for the amount of exposure he received. Seems the art world has a way of over hyping young artists before they have a chance to find their style.

[randomname]

Looks like he based it on this image. Or else they were working from a common source image. If you flip it, the wrinkles, buckles and everything match up.

[JAlternatión]

Is this whole "Jason Seife is a con artist" thing purely based on a couple of winks and someone not wanting to pay upfront for a commission, or does it have more substance?
Seems to me to only be the above bits, which seems more than a little unfair, tbh.

[JAlternatión]

Dec 4, 2014 19:11:14 GMT 1 randomname said:

Looks like he based it on this image. Or else they were working from a common source image. If you flip it, the wrinkles, buckles and everything match up.

Somewhere there is a thread on here where he talks about the inspiration for his work, and obvious comparisons to Geddes, couldn't find it doing a quick search but think it may have been on a thread about that show? Will keep looking

[JAlternatión]

Ah... I think it was actually just this:

urbanartassociation.com/post/1182981/thread

[Momo]

Yi haven't the time to Photoshop them but am convinced its a direct copy of geddes's one but mirrored (ie. Left hand of JG is right hand of JS's one etc etc...) Both stunning images though...

[JAlternatión]

Come on buddy, I even gave you the link!

To quote:

Lovely looking work.... but I'm curious about the cosmonaut pieces... the likeness to Jeremy Geddes puts me off buying anything!
Not just the crusified pose, but the other piece, looking down on the cosmonaut, too... The exact same poses.
Same source material, or a naughty bit of "inspiration" ??



Thanks for you feedback! It's tough with cosmonauts as Jeremy truly is the king of them, they're based off the same source imagery which is a retro Russian cosmonaut suit, both, the crucified poses of them has a deeper meaning which ties in the theme of the show, feel free to DM if you'd like some more background on the pieces or any questions. Thanks !

[aberdoom]

I really liked this print! The 011-110 ... Think It might be an for next year...

[Momo]

Dec 4, 2014 20:33:00 GMT 1 JAlternatión said:

Come on buddy, I even gave you the link!

To quote:

Lovely looking work.... but I'm curious about the cosmonaut pieces... the likeness to Jeremy Geddes puts me off buying anything!
Not just the crusified pose, but the other piece, looking down on the cosmonaut, too... The exact same poses.
Same source material, or a naughty bit of "inspiration" ??



Thanks for you feedback! It's tough with cosmonauts as Jeremy truly is the king of them, they're based off the same source imagery which is a retro Russian cosmonaut suit, both, the crucified poses of them has a deeper meaning which ties in the theme of the show, feel free to DM if you'd like some more background on the pieces or any questions. Thanks !

I did read it and believe him I also love the piece can only imagine how good it is in reality but I just expressed my opinion which is that the comparisons of where the straps are the way the 'drapery' sits is uncanny with what you see when you mirror Geddes's one is all...

[randomname]

I'd be curious to see the source image. To me, the pose doesn't look like it would have come from an actual photograph of a cosmonaut in space. It has too much of a Jesus descending from heaven look to it. I'm not saying Seife is lying. But I'm not not saying that either

[mrblast]

He also did a version of Geddes Astronaut on fire:



I think some of his pieces are excellent by the way, the Renaissance stuff in particular.

[Deleted]

Dec 5, 2014 8:33:07 GMT 1 mrblast said:

He also did a version of Geddes Astronaut on fire:



I think some of his pieces are excellent by the way, the Renaissance stuff in particular.

Jack Crossing www.jackcrossing.com/100599/929302/work/6th-avenue-x-jack-crossing

[misterx]

Dec 5, 2014 8:33:07 GMT 1 mrblast said:

He also did a version of Geddes Astronaut on fire:



I think some of his pieces are excellent by the way, the Renaissance stuff in particular.

I think that may have rather been jack Crossing actually.

[mrblast]

My mistake, thanks for correcting.

Love that print.

[graffuturism]

I dont see how people could really keep defending this artist or appreciate this artist if you look at his work its clear as day to see he did not evolve either of the styles mentioned, the old masters or the astronauts. His design work is basic and his paintings are even worse, I was very surprised LAZ didnt see this as well knowing the quality of work they have experience with. From the internet everything looks great not saying his paintings dont but its very clear that he is design heavy and copied a couple artists who he has been called out on. I will say I have a clear Bias and did confront the artist in past threads but I let it go to see if he would progress as a normal artist is supposed to after copying others and that remains to be seen. In the end I personally always look for history in an artist to see his progression where these works came from in prior work and the red flag was it wasnt there. Hope the best for those that bought into his work and if he does paint these then maybe that talent will find something authentic down the road. We all have things to learn its just a shame that the internet hypes artists so fast before doing some basic research.

[berlin20]

When you search Jason Seife / Nicola Samori you can find 2013 discussions on The Artchival, regarding his use of simply mirrored images of Samori's works.
JS deleted his images.

[Jeezuz Jones Snr]

Dec 5, 2014 8:44:08 GMT 1 @headfall said:

Dec 5, 2014 8:33:07 GMT 1 mrblast said:

He also did a version of Geddes Astronaut on fire:



I think some of his pieces are excellent by the way, the Renaissance stuff in particular.

Jack Crossing www.jackcrossing.com/100599/929302/work/6th-avenue-x-jack-crossing

Is the bottom picture an original painting? If so 'fuck my dog that's impressive'!!

[graffuturism]

Dec 5, 2014 10:49:43 GMT 1 berlin20 said:

When you search Jason Seife / Nicola Samori you can find 2013 discussions on The Artchival, regarding his use of simply mirrored images of Samori's works.
JS deleted his images.

Wow thats a great find and even more damming now you that you mention it. He also defended himself on that blog that he didnt know Nicola was a working artist. Yet he knew he took from Caravaggesque artist Ribera but same theme, then the icing on the cake is that he actually used a contemporary painters work photoshopped in reverse to an old master Caravaggio whom he says Nicola referenced. So besides Photoshop and without any real dialogue on the image or what the series of work meant to him as far as appropriating what do you have?



Nicola Samora painting 2010, oil on linen, 200 x 300 cm




Voila!

[BKBOI]

where is the artist to defend himself? didn't he use to post here regularly promoting himself? I or my manager would be on this case if these false accusations are being tossed around a forum where most of my collectors hang out or lurk.

curious to see if collectors continue to support him in his next show.

[iamzero]

Could it be the silence speaks volumes? Very strange that a single artists name is mentioned and its all gone very quiet. I really like that last image posted too. (I was gonna say I liked the bottom picture but that's another story entirely).