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Well i bought two and a lot of people seem to have bought all three. If we middle it to 2 than 150 have been sold only on this forum and only to people who commented in this thread. What about all people on EB and all people who were on Facebook and Instagram. Must be that BNE sold over 500 tee's....

[born2sk8]

Mar 24, 2014 17:05:30 GMT 1 Emile said:

Mar 24, 2014 17:00:18 GMT 1 FЯ said:

Suit yourself, just dont go whinging if he closes shop and you lose your money.
paypal wont protect you as they do not protect pre sale items. The item has to be delivered within 20 days to come under the seller protection.   So good luck!

www.paypal.com/us/webapps/helpcenter/helphub/article/?solutionId=FAQ1488&topicID=RECEIVE_MONEY&m=TCI

just trying to help you but if your want to be stupid thats up to you.

Thanks for the help. Appreciate it

no one needs freeranges help, u got ur refund a while ago didnt u, so don't really know y ur still on here talking about it

[FЯ]

Mar 24, 2014 22:34:08 GMT 1 born2sk8 said:

Mar 24, 2014 17:05:30 GMT 1 Emile said:

Thanks for the help. Appreciate it

no one needs freeranges help, u got ur refund a while ago didnt u, so don't really know y ur still on here talking about it

 I never ordered one in the first place. complete tat.

speak english as well you weirdo, how old are you? 13

[born2sk8]

Mar 24, 2014 22:54:28 GMT 1 FЯ said:

Mar 24, 2014 22:34:08 GMT 1 born2sk8 said:

no one needs freeranges help, u got ur refund a while ago didnt u, so don't really know y ur still on here talking about it

 I never ordered one in the first place. complete tat.

speak english as well you weirdo, how old are you? 13

So further to my point why are you telling people what to do with their order? I'm sorry but your the one calling people stupid, everyone else seems to be speaking to you quite politely. To say that someone was whining because they decided to wait to see what happened, is it a bit of a joke when you consider the amount of people crying over maybe not getting a tshirt that is a collab with banksy, when really the whole point was to raise some money for a really good charity.

[born2sk8]

Oh and I hope you appreciate that I'm not using text speak now is that better?

[FЯ]

Mar 24, 2014 23:02:47 GMT 1 born2sk8 said:

Mar 24, 2014 22:54:28 GMT 1 FЯ said:

 I never ordered one in the first place. complete tat.

speak english as well you weirdo, how old are you? 13

So further to my point why are you telling people what to do with their order? I'm sorry but your the one calling people stupid, everyone else seems to be speaking to you quite politely. To say that someone was whining because they decided to wait to see what happened, is it a bit of a joke when you consider the amount of people crying over maybe not getting a tshirt that is a collab with banksy, when really the whole point was to raise some money for a really good charity.

You can raise more money by not buying the stupid tshirt in the first place and donating direct.
i never said they were whining, i said they should not start whining when they cant get their money back.

[born2sk8]

Ok that's fair enough. I'm just personally of the opinion that if using banksy's name was just a stunt to raise awareness of this charity then it's obviously worked well. I had no idea about it before and now that I do, I will certainly be making more donations to them.

It just kind of annoys me that so many have their pitch forks out over the whole thing when the money has gone to the charity. If people are such fans of banksy surely they see that he's not exactly one to do things by the book, he's a graffiti artist after all!

I have ordered and if I get a blank tee so be it, I'll still be glad that I'm aware of this charity now and to be honest kinda impressed that an artist was willing to put his credibility on the line to help the cause. I take it a lot of people don't like the idea of f*cking over people that have money to waste to give to people who really need it? I do

[behaviorist]

I'm cross-posting from the original BNE + Banksy thread because my point below seems relevant to this discussion:

I've been following this whole thing from start to..well, it's not finished yet, but it certainly seems to be reaching some kind of closure. Slowly.

The donation of 35k is wonderful and I hope it stands. The problem I'm wrestling with, beyond everything already pointed out by others regarding BNE's evasive manner, calling others out for their selfishness, the poorly-thought out social experiment comment (a true social experiment would never be called out as such, in its midst, by the experimenter) etc etc...and I know this has already been brought up, is this, and I believe it's key:

We do not know how many shirts were sold, but I would easily guess it's in the thousands. Given all the obscuring of the truth thus far, there's no reason to think only 500 shirts were sold. And they are still being sold. My very casual count of folks who have bought (just look at instagram), is that hundreds and hundreds of people bought tees, many buying far more than one. With that in mind, a 35k donation is but a fraction of what BNE made. That feels really, really important to me. Without a real sense of where the money went, it's very hard to feel like my purchase (yes, I bought) really went to the charity, as promised.

[born2sk8]

Mar 24, 2014 23:38:58 GMT 1 behaviorist said:

I'm cross-posting from the original BNE + Banksy thread because my point below seems relevant to this discussion:

I've been following this whole thing from start to..well, it's not finished yet, but it certainly seems to be reaching some kind of closure. Slowly.

The donation of 35k is wonderful and I hope it stands. The problem I'm wrestling with, beyond everything already pointed out by others regarding BNE's evasive manner, calling others out for their selfishness, the poorly-thought out social experiment comment (a true social experiment would never be called out as such, in its midst, by the experimenter) etc etc...and I know this has already been brought up, is this, and I believe it's key:

We do not know how many shirts were sold, but I would easily guess it's in the thousands. Given all the obscuring of the truth thus far, there's no reason to think only 500 shirts were sold. And they are still being sold. My very casual count of folks who have bought (just look at instagram), is that hundreds and hundreds of people bought tees, many buying far more than one. With that in mind, a 35k donation is but a fraction of what BNE made. That feels really, really important to me. Without a real sense of where the money went, it's very hard to feel like my purchase (yes, I bought) really went to the charity, as promised.

I totally hear what your saying and this is true as we don't know the real numbers but I suppose because I have faith that the invader tee I ordered is real and that the other collaborations were real. I just can't understand that all this would just be a desperate attempt for bne to make some money on the side for himself.

[born2sk8]

Plenty of people that hadn't just heard of bne because of the invader/shep/faile collab said how he has done a lot for charities in the past so if he was doing a Robin Hood he's not going to whack some of it in his own back pocket is he.

[nandaman]

Love the texture on that oil...

[met]

Mar 24, 2014 23:38:58 GMT 1 behaviorist said:

I'm cross-posting from the original BNE + Banksy thread because my point below seems relevant to this discussion:

I've been following this whole thing from start to..well, it's not finished yet, but it certainly seems to be reaching some kind of closure. Slowly.

The donation of 35k is wonderful and I hope it stands. The problem I'm wrestling with, beyond everything already pointed out by others regarding BNE's evasive manner, calling others out for their selfishness, the poorly-thought out social experiment comment (a true social experiment would never be called out as such, in its midst, by the experimenter) etc etc...and I know this has already been brought up, is this, and I believe it's key:

We do not know how many shirts were sold, but I would easily guess it's in the thousands. Given all the obscuring of the truth thus far, there's no reason to think only 500 shirts were sold. And they are still being sold. My very casual count of folks who have bought (just look at instagram), is that hundreds and hundreds of people bought tees, many buying far more than one. With that in mind, a 35k donation is but a fraction of what BNE made. That feels really, really important to me. Without a real sense of where the money went, it's very hard to feel like my purchase (yes, I bought) really went to the charity, as promised.

An excellent point worth reiterating, especially given that BNE is a for-profit company.

I'm very surprised it wasn't raised in the animalnewyork.com follow-up article today. The issue certainly merits discussion — and it's one BNE has thus far continued to dodge.

The release of BNE's "collaboration with Banksy" was covered by numerous blogs including Complex, Juxtapoz, Hypebeast, SlamXHype, Arrested Motion and Street Art News. It was discussed at length on message boards like this one and Expresso Beans, and no doubt heavily publicised via social media, be it Twitter, Facebook, Instagram or whatnot.

500 or 1,000 t-shirts could easily have sold within the first minute, let alone the 60 to 90 minutes the 'Buy Now' button remained up on BNE's website on Saturday. This was marketed as a Banksy item after all. Those attempting to argue "It was only a t-shirt, not a print" are in my opinion being disingenuous or naive about Banksy's appeal.

My guess is we're talking about multiple thousands of t-shirts having been sold at $80 apiece, plus shipping. 

Hopefully, BNE will opt for transparency on this point in the next day or so. 

[chr1s]

I did the poll and selected that I requested a refund. I actually bought 2 shirts and requested refunds on both. I wish I could vote twice or somehow indicate in the poll how many refunds I requested. Would be interesting to see how many were bought on this site alone.

[thisisanton]

Mar 25, 2014 3:19:30 GMT 1 chr1s said:

I did the poll and selected that I requested a refund. I actually bought 2 shirts and requested refunds on both. I wish I could vote twice or somehow indicate in the poll how many refunds I requested. Would be interesting to see how many were bought on this site alone.

I bought 3.

[petro]

Definitely a refund. BNE has already done so much damage to the charity he's supposed to be advocating. He's a self-important sociopath and I don't want anything to do with him. Dispute filed.

[shaun]

How much were these t-shirts? And does the money go to charity even if it's not a banksy tee?

[FЯ]

They were $500 each and $600 went to charity. Keep up at the back

[shaun]

I couldn't be bothered to look it up.

[LAZAKY]

Refund!

[petro]

Mar 25, 2014 15:53:46 GMT 1 LAZAKY said:

Refund!

Same here. 

[treweman]

I voted that I was going to wait 44 days to see, but changed my mind and received refunds late last night. The tipping point was the potential damage that BNE may have visited on Charity: Water, which seems a very worthy cause.

[Invaded 420]

Really hope those of us keeping our order don't get refunded cos of the moaning few

[Deleted]

$48.  wow.  just wow

bne.org/eng/

[Dungle]

Yeah but loads of money goes to charity. Honest guv

[balibob]

Rubs eyes and looks again, am I seeing things?

[t3c]

The holograms are on there way though!!

[Morfx]

I heard there was never any holograms...

[Deleted]

"Each cap sold will help us reach our goal of raising $50,000 for clean water projects before the end of summer. Orders will close on Thurday, May 29"

Zero info on how much will be going to charity. But it's a limited edition!!!!!!! Only available for one week!! MUST BUY NOW

[t3c]

His rent is due next week

[BKBOI]

Funny how the Faile T-shirt disappeared from his site. I still want one of em COA's they mailed out to him.