[FЯ]

Sour grapes happening here.

[FЯ]

Aug 28, 2014 15:57:27 GMT 1 mmmike said:

Aug 28, 2014 15:22:40 GMT 1 Lroy said:

LOl ! How could you get one ?! I was blocked for any Zacharevic at the second ! Click on the button at the right moement and nothing went in the basket !!!
ed of 70 ? My eye, they were all reserved I guess ( and anyway Black apple art had some to sell at the show ! I remember ) .
I am very angry, no sing of any hope, as if my computer, my web adress was blocked by the website.

You got lucky. Saved some money

I tried looking at some of his "art" but fell asleep from boredom.


Congrats to everyone that missed out.  

Get your head out of your arse. You obviously have not looked very hard then. Bet you use aol search and wipe the streaks off your 10 year old banksy prints. Try something new for once yeah and you might like it.

so many festering members on here still not realising that things are moving on.

you fell asleep with boredom?
bet that happens often to your wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend/cat/dog/parrot/hamster/special sock.
delete as appropriate there.

[Warm Gun]

Aug 28, 2014 21:31:33 GMT 1 FЯ said:

Aug 28, 2014 15:57:27 GMT 1 mmmike said:

You got lucky. Saved some money

I tried looking at some of his "art" but fell asleep from boredom.


Congrats to everyone that missed out.  

Get your head out of your arse. You obviously have not looked very hard then. Bet you use aol search and wipe the streaks off your 10 year old banksy prints. Try something new for once yeah and you might like it.

so many festering members on here still not realising that things are moving on.

you fell asleep with boredom?
bet that happens often to your wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend/cat/dog/parrot/hamster/special sock.
delete as appropriate there.

Bore off DER@ANGED , We all know that you'll soon have yours up for sale anyway.....under the guise of your imaginary friend no doubt. zzzzzzzzzzzzz

[FЯ]

Trust the village idiot to chirp up.

[Warm Gun]

I'll never tire of reminding fellow members what a parasite you are.

[FЯ]

Aug 28, 2014 21:43:00 GMT 1 Warm Gun said:

I'll never tire of reminding fellow members what a parasite you are.

Go dribble somewhere else.

[mmmike]

Aug 28, 2014 21:31:33 GMT 1 FЯ said:

Aug 28, 2014 15:57:27 GMT 1 mmmike said:

You got lucky. Saved some money

I tried looking at some of his "art" but fell asleep from boredom.


Congrats to everyone that missed out.  

Get your head out of your arse. You obviously have not looked very hard then. Bet you use aol search and wipe the streaks off your 10 year old banksy prints. Try something new for once yeah and you might like it.

so many festering members on here still not realising that things are moving on.

you fell asleep with boredom?
bet that happens often to your wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend/cat/dog/parrot/hamster/special sock.
delete as appropriate there.

You might be right. I am getting old. Might have something to do with my allergic reaction to hype around new artists selling editions. Seems like street art for a lot of these guys are adverts for prints and not much more. I think I'm very supportive of new artists doing their thing on the streets. When you go straight to cashing in on your work, that is where I get bored real fast.

Put your time in. Work on your craft for the love of what you are doing. It is just contrived when your goal is cashing in. I have no issue with artists making money. If they want to sell prints and people buy them good on them. I just feel bad for the people who are buying thinking they will cash in down the road on the latest unoriginal junk by the latest and greatest young artist

 


  

[FЯ]

Not sure how you can call hype on zach, it does not take much to find out how massive he is in asia.
Not saying that is a success marker at all, but you realise how big asia is?
The street stuff is fresh and unique both with concepts and execution.
Things have just moved on... No ones saying the enjoy graffiti is picasso, but it is an affordable original of someone who many people will not be able to afford come their next big show. No hype.

how can you call it cashing in as well? Up until now he has only released 2 prints (the majority of one are all hand finished), enjoy is the third.

if you want the leader of cashing in look at people like obey, dface, walker, whatson, invader, faile eine, churning it out. People buy their shit because of an investment and to brag about on places like this.

how are any of them more original and unique than what zach is producing.

they are not.

[mmmike]

Aug 29, 2014 7:33:56 GMT 1 FЯ said:

Not sure how you can call hype on zach, it does not take much to find out how massive he is in asia.
Not saying that is a success marker at all, but you realise how big asia is?
The street stuff is fresh and unique both with concepts and execution.
Things have just moved on... No ones saying the enjoy graffiti is picasso, but it is an affordable original of someone who many people will not be able to afford come their next big show. No hype.

how can you call it cashing in as well? Up until now he has only released 2 prints (the majority of one are all hand finished), enjoy is the third.

if you want the leader of cashing in look at people like obey, dface, walker, whatson, invader, faile eine, churning it out. People buy their s**t because of an investment and to brag about on places like this.

how are any of them more original and unique than what zach is producing.

they are not.

You make some good points. I guess I don't see his work as either fresh or unique. It seems like stuff I've seen over and over again with very little concept behind it. At least that Is my take on it. Maybe it is all over my head. 

With tho the guys you have mentioned like whatson etc. I don't disagree and I'd put them in the same boat for the most part. Shepard fairey I think is a whole other storey. To me he has put in decades of work, he has changed the whole landscape and had more of an impact than Banksy and most if not all of the rest. That said I can see lots of reasons to not to like his work or his constant release of prints but he has earned my respect. Not that that is worth a whole lot. 

The other thing I'd say is popularity doesn't equal good. There is lots of crap that is popular. 

[Poster Bob]

This guy has yet to prove himself as anything special. His work is extremely repetitive: virtually all of his pieces consist of two children playing, painted in the same style. Repeated statements of "he's big in Asia" are baseless. His hype men should feel free at any time to back them up with something substantive like sell out shows in Asia, paid corporate advertisements in Asia, or huge numbers of articles on his work.

[FЯ]

I once listened to peoples opinion about an artist and how they would never amount to anything.
They were completely wrong and ive never listed to anyone on here since.
People with crap taste should really restrict from informing others who is worthwhile collecting.

[FЯ]

Whoever asks.

[Ponyboy Curtis]

MDS has some big shows coming up. The equivalent of the "tricky second album".

Then we'll see how he's really doing.

[mmmike]

Aug 29, 2014 16:23:43 GMT 1 FЯ said:

I once listened to peoples opinion about an artist and how they would never amount to anything.
They were completely wrong and ive never listed to anyone on here since.
People with crap taste should really restrict from informing others who is worthwhile collecting.

If this was to me, to be clear I'm not saying he won't be successful. I'm just saying I don't think he has done anything of note to date. I find his prints boring and unoriginal, hopefully he will evolve and do more original street art and maybe down the road have some interesting things to collect. 

In terms of people with crap taste. That is quite subjective and life would be quite a bore if you only listen to people with similar opinions to your own.

[Ruggs]

Aug 29, 2014 16:23:43 GMT 1 FЯ said:

I once listened to peoples opinion about an artist and how they would never amount to anything.
They were completely wrong and ive never listed to anyone on here since.
People with crap taste should really restrict from informing others who is worthwhile collecting.

I don't think you can say 'people with crap taste'. That's pretty insulting. We all have different tastes Jon. What you like I might not and what I like you might not but I wouldn't say that you or I have crap taste.

[Poster Bob]

Aug 29, 2014 16:41:34 GMT 1 FЯ said:

Whoever asks.

What on Earth does this mean?

[thomasmer]

Aug 29, 2014 7:33:56 GMT 1 FЯ said:

Not sure how you can call hype on zach, it does not take much to find out how massive he is in asia.

Outside one of the smallest inhabited islands in Malaysia he's pretty much unknown.

China, Japan, Singapore, Thailand, Indonesia, India, Vietnam and so on, Ernest who?

I like Ernests work, he's got incredible talent, but he's barely had a solo show, any auction history, or many collectors outside of you lot.

This is crazy money for a teeshirt design, flipped it yet Freerange?

[Deleted]

Sept 1, 2014 4:06:00 GMT 1 thomasmer said:

Outside one of the smallest inhabited islands in Malaysia he's pretty much unknown.

China, Japan, Singapore, Thailand, Indonesia, India, Vietnam and so on, Ernest who?

I like Ernests work, he's got incredible talent, but he's barely had a solo show, any auction history, or many collectors outside of you lot.

This is crazy money for a teeshirt design, flipped it yet Freerange?

Haha I love how you need an auction history/collectors to be a legit urban/street artist now.

He does have over 100,000 Facebook fans, so I assume that I'm not the only one who likes him. I could always be wrong. Maybe that's not the best indicator of whether someone is known or not. I also don't really care.

I like his work so I buy his art and put it on ma walls. Already have the print so not going for this guy; will let others 'Enjoy' 

[thomasmer]

Sept 1, 2014 4:42:14 GMT 1 coller said:

Sept 1, 2014 4:06:00 GMT 1 thomasmer said:

Outside one of the smallest inhabited islands in Malaysia he's pretty much unknown.

China, Japan, Singapore, Thailand, Indonesia, India, Vietnam and so on, Ernest who?

I like Ernests work, he's got incredible talent, but he's barely had a solo show, any auction history, or many collectors outside of you lot.

This is crazy money for a teeshirt design, flipped it yet Freerange?

Haha I love how you need an auction history/collectors to be a legit urban/street artist now.

He does have over 100,000 Facebook fans, so I assume that I'm not the only one who likes him. I could always be wrong. Maybe that's not the best indicator of whether someone is known or not. I also don't really care.

I like his work so I buy his art and put it on ma walls. Already have the print so not going for this guy; will let others 'Enjoy' 

No having some kind of history (Shows/Auctions/Collector base) doesn't maybe you a street artist, but it does justify the over inflated pricing.

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I guess it's annoying to see an artist you don't know selling prints for 200p+, but it's also hard to argue his prices are over-inflated when his prints sell out in a second. Maybe some people are buying for hype/flipping, or you can say that prices are being rigged or whatever; I'm just used to seeing prints being sold for 150p-300p for most artists that I know, absent the odd 1xrun. And if they're not, then they're immediately flipped for that range or more.

Time will always tell; I was happy with the screenprint price. It's also one of those images that's fun to have on the wall, but you won't die if you don't have it. People who buy strictly for profit with stuff like this will always lose in the long-run.

And I think everyone acknowledges that this is one of his least impressive pieces in terms of depth. I hope he moves on and does other stuff.

Just hard to say he doesn't have a past; I liked the rear-view camera thing he did a while back.

[Black Apple Art]

Here's one floated in a black box frame.

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Looking good B.A.

[Black Apple Art]

Sept 3, 2014 0:41:45 GMT 1 gonefellow said:

Looking good B.A.

Thanks!

[Street Art Anarchy]

The dead dinosaur is a pun on old school street art / graffiti artists and the boy sitting on it announces the take-over by the new generation. This is the evolution of art history happening right before our eyes - quite a masterpiece if you ask me.

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And now, the reaction piece. Still no idea where this is; somewhere in Williamsburg near the bridge but I live near there and still couldn't figure it out.

[FЯ]

Is this 8pm uk time today?
Black looks awesome in the photos

blackappleart.com/gallery/ernest-zacharevic-enjoy-black/

[BoDyReMoVer]

Sept 3, 2014 7:41:41 GMT 1 FЯ said:

Is this 8pm uk time today?
Black looks awesome in the photos

blackappleart.com/gallery/ernest-zacharevic-enjoy-black/

It's tomorrow at 8pm.

[hunter]

Aug 28, 2014 11:10:55 GMT 1 @martedanielsen said:

Did he ?, that's a shame, and an even bigger shame that such an old school head would be down on a kid like Ernest. That piece combined with the paste up looked really good, almost like an official collab. Anyway, storm in a teacup, two artists I have a lot of respect for, for different reasons.

All the more reason for the response wouldn't you think?

[Graffiti Prints]

Don't read into what's not there zach spent a week or so in NYC 10 days after different strokes

He liked the spot and painted it, clueless to the fact cost would be pissed if he put a roller on his paste up

No statement or anything just zach doing his stuff because he liked the wall.

In Newcastle last week all he did was look at walls saying I could do this and that as we walked to art shop and out on the town and stuff!

Cost was right about he should not have done it but zach did not even realise it would cause a storm in a tea cup on Instagram

When we walked in Brooklyn to gallery etc all u see is cost rollers and paste ups there great.

Its almost hard to find a good spot he ain't taken!

[HRE]

Hey @graffitiprints when are the prints being sent of enjoy graffiti?