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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 7:46:45 GMT 1, Hope this 'legend' has another idea soon, the joke isn't funny anymore, but hey it's making money so that's what's important Get out the wrong side of bed again?
Oooh Harland should do a book cover of that
I'm ideally hoping for 'look at me I bought a piece of art I'm great me, also I used to dance and do drugs, please fuck me, or at least failing that be intrigued by my coolness'
Hope this 'legend' has another idea soon, the joke isn't funny anymore, but hey it's making money so that's what's important Get out the wrong side of bed again? Oooh Harland should do a book cover of that I'm ideally hoping for 'look at me I bought a piece of art I'm great me, also I used to dance and do drugs, please fuck me, or at least failing that be intrigued by my coolness'
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 8:08:21 GMT 1, Get out the wrong side of bed again? Oooh Harland should do a book cover of that I'm ideally hoping for 'look at me I bought a piece of art I'm great me, also I used to dance and do drugs, please f**k me, or at least failing that be intrigued by my coolness'
Like a good songwriter harlands telling his story throught his artform like supine and many other "real" artists, a lot more interesting than the huge amount of thoughtless, soulless conveyor belt art thats getting pushed out there, i love when the artists personality is on show with there art, the passion comes through, also artists go through stages, sometimes they move on, sometimes not and sometimes they revisit that part of their life to explore again. I dont own any but will definately be watching out for the right piece for me
ps it doesnt have to be by a big name, i've seen plenty of talented passionate art sub ยฃ100 which puts to shame a lot of the pumped out art imo
Get out the wrong side of bed again? Oooh Harland should do a book cover of that I'm ideally hoping for 'look at me I bought a piece of art I'm great me, also I used to dance and do drugs, please f**k me, or at least failing that be intrigued by my coolness' Like a good songwriter harlands telling his story throught his artform like supine and many other "real" artists, a lot more interesting than the huge amount of thoughtless, soulless conveyor belt art thats getting pushed out there, i love when the artists personality is on show with there art, the passion comes through, also artists go through stages, sometimes they move on, sometimes not and sometimes they revisit that part of their life to explore again. I dont own any but will definately be watching out for the right piece for me ps it doesnt have to be by a big name, i've seen plenty of talented passionate art sub ยฃ100 which puts to shame a lot of the pumped out art imo
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 8:42:54 GMT 1, Ah yes pithy one liners are the window to the soul
*cough cough*
Ah yes pithy one liners are the window to the soul
*cough cough*
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by .dappy on Apr 26, 2014 8:50:47 GMT 1, confuscious say:
'... pithy one liners are the window to the soul'
confuscious say:
'... pithy one liners are the window to the soul'
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 8:50:58 GMT 1, Ah yes pithy one liners are the window to the soul *cough cough*
dont think i'll be convincing you badrobot i'll move on
Ah yes pithy one liners are the window to the soul *cough cough* dont think i'll be convincing you badrobot i'll move on
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by Dungle on Apr 26, 2014 8:52:16 GMT 1, Ah yes pithy one liners are the window to the soul *cough cough* me > you
says I all really.
Ah yes pithy one liners are the window to the soul *cough cough* me > you says I all really.
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 9:13:50 GMT 1, You're inability to respond to my critique says more mr dungle
(My cough's castle were actually a nudge about my own info persona of pithy one liners and that actually they don't represent 'me' in any sort of entirety, ergo why should harlands represent substance of a deeper nature? And even if they do, it seems a poor representation of any sort of back story to the uninitiated. Furthermore it's fairly obvious that it's the faux cool lines that garner the most interest that actually say much more about the purchasers than the artists proposed meanings ... But I digress)
You're inability to respond to my critique says more mr dungle
(My cough's castle were actually a nudge about my own info persona of pithy one liners and that actually they don't represent 'me' in any sort of entirety, ergo why should harlands represent substance of a deeper nature? And even if they do, it seems a poor representation of any sort of back story to the uninitiated. Furthermore it's fairly obvious that it's the faux cool lines that garner the most interest that actually say much more about the purchasers than the artists proposed meanings ... But I digress)
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by iamzero on Apr 26, 2014 9:28:06 GMT 1, I remember reading that James Martin has some Picasso sketches that Barbra Brocoli bought him hidden in a safety deposit box somewhere because he couldn't afford the insurance to hang them on his wall?
I met him at a show once and got talking after discovering we both had old lambrettas, I thought he seemed like a really nice bloke.
I remember reading that James Martin has some Picasso sketches that Barbra Brocoli bought him hidden in a safety deposit box somewhere because he couldn't afford the insurance to hang them on his wall?
I met him at a show once and got talking after discovering we both had old lambrettas, I thought he seemed like a really nice bloke.
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 9:30:33 GMT 1, Is this James Martin the cook?.
Is this James Martin the cook?.
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by darrenrapley on Apr 26, 2014 9:30:56 GMT 1, I found it very interesting.
Like badrobot, I had always felt that not a lot of thought had gone into the titles. Bit like The Sun headlines to be honest. This is not to say I don't like his art. I love the book covers in the same way that I love my Eine A-Z canvas.
What I found extraordinary was the thought process of not just the titles, but how many times Harland changes the spacing of words and slight changes of colour of both text and background so the reader/viewer changes how he/she looks at the artwork.
However, in the same way that some folk are bored of Eine's A-Zs, some will not like Harland's book covers. Art's good like that.
I found it very interesting.
Like badrobot, I had always felt that not a lot of thought had gone into the titles. Bit like The Sun headlines to be honest. This is not to say I don't like his art. I love the book covers in the same way that I love my Eine A-Z canvas.
What I found extraordinary was the thought process of not just the titles, but how many times Harland changes the spacing of words and slight changes of colour of both text and background so the reader/viewer changes how he/she looks at the artwork.
However, in the same way that some folk are bored of Eine's A-Zs, some will not like Harland's book covers. Art's good like that.
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by Damien on Apr 26, 2014 9:36:30 GMT 1, Is this James Martin the cook?. yes wiz
Is this James Martin the cook?. yes wiz
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by Dungle on Apr 26, 2014 9:39:26 GMT 1, You're inability to respond to my critique says more mr dungle (My cough's castle were actually a nudge about my own info persona of pithy one liners and that actually they don't represent 'me' in any sort of entirety, ergo why should harlands represent substance of a deeper nature? And even if they do, it seems a poor representation of any sort of back story to the uninitiated. Furthermore it's fairly obvious that it's the faux cool lines that garner the most interest that actually say much more about the purchasers than the artists proposed meanings ... But I digress) Because I don't really see your comments as critique. You don't like it I get it.
You think they are just one liners, yes on the surface they are, but the thought process that goes into it is actually quite extensive and there are a lot of deeper meanings.
by Harlands own admission he meant to stop producing book covers 5 years ago, but keeps getting drawn back to them. Nothing wrong with that though, it works so why not? Like telling Monet to stop painting water lilies, Eine to stop doing type, Hirst to stop doing dots.
artists are a lot of the time recognisable by their style and subject matter, if you don't like it fine, but you don't need to try and belittle it for others, by making smart arse sarcastic comments.
now it sounds like I got out the wrong side of bed.
You're inability to respond to my critique says more mr dungle (My cough's castle were actually a nudge about my own info persona of pithy one liners and that actually they don't represent 'me' in any sort of entirety, ergo why should harlands represent substance of a deeper nature? And even if they do, it seems a poor representation of any sort of back story to the uninitiated. Furthermore it's fairly obvious that it's the faux cool lines that garner the most interest that actually say much more about the purchasers than the artists proposed meanings ... But I digress) Because I don't really see your comments as critique. You don't like it I get it. You think they are just one liners, yes on the surface they are, but the thought process that goes into it is actually quite extensive and there are a lot of deeper meanings. by Harlands own admission he meant to stop producing book covers 5 years ago, but keeps getting drawn back to them. Nothing wrong with that though, it works so why not? Like telling Monet to stop painting water lilies, Eine to stop doing type, Hirst to stop doing dots. artists are a lot of the time recognisable by their style and subject matter, if you don't like it fine, but you don't need to try and belittle it for others, by making smart arse sarcastic comments. now it sounds like I got out the wrong side of bed.
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by Jameszee on Apr 26, 2014 9:46:38 GMT 1, Art is like marmite innit?
Art is like marmite innit?
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 9:51:09 GMT 1, The point I'm poorly making is that 'deep thought process' doesn't translate to the casual viewer, nor does it translate to the popularity of certain pieces...I'm questioning the one liners because quite frankly the reasons for purchasing are worth questioning
The point I'm poorly making is that 'deep thought process' doesn't translate to the casual viewer, nor does it translate to the popularity of certain pieces...I'm questioning the one liners because quite frankly the reasons for purchasing are worth questioning
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 9:56:44 GMT 1, Art is like marmite innit? Peer pressure leads to flipping yeast extract ?
Art is like marmite innit? Peer pressure leads to flipping yeast extract ?
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 10:05:08 GMT 1, The point I'm poorly making is that 'deep thought process' doesn't translate to the casual viewer, nor does it translate to the popularity of certain pieces...I'm questioning the one liners because quite frankly the reasons for purchasing are worth questioning You seem to be a bit out of your depth. Harland isn't Stik or Outis, having fallen short (and realised it), you switch focus to criticising buyers for buying it for the "wrong" reason. It's like criticising Micallef for painting angels then criticising collectors who buy it for not being theologians.
The point I'm poorly making is that 'deep thought process' doesn't translate to the casual viewer, nor does it translate to the popularity of certain pieces...I'm questioning the one liners because quite frankly the reasons for purchasing are worth questioning You seem to be a bit out of your depth. Harland isn't Stik or Outis, having fallen short (and realised it), you switch focus to criticising buyers for buying it for the "wrong" reason. It's like criticising Micallef for painting angels then criticising collectors who buy it for not being theologians.
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by iamzero on Apr 26, 2014 10:11:38 GMT 1, I love bad robots posts because the make me smile. Like the grumpy old man of the forum.
I love bad robots posts because the make me smile. Like the grumpy old man of the forum.
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 10:36:55 GMT 1, You're inability to respond to my critique says more mr dungle (My cough's castle were actually a nudge about my own info persona of pithy one liners and that actually they don't represent 'me' in any sort of entirety, ergo why should harlands represent substance of a deeper nature? And even if they do, it seems a poor representation of any sort of back story to the uninitiated. Furthermore it's fairly obvious that it's the faux cool lines that garner the most interest that actually say much more about the purchasers than the artists proposed meanings ... But I digress) No worries at all, nothing like a good debate For me its even more about the marks and brushwork than what the words say, that's where the real emotion of Harlands work comes out. An artist I knew was in the gallery a while back and he pointed out another artists work, a photographic style painter and said "I can understand why people pay big money for that because not everyone can paint like that but(he then started pointing at another artists work) I could do that. I had to bite my lip, he didn't get it, he couldn't do it, he could copy it/replicate it but the artwork he was talking about was by an artist who paints in the moment with emotion and directness at that point in time and everything leading up to that point in time had an imput into what evolved on the canvass, that's the method of that painter, if it was 2 days earlier or 2 days later the artist would have been in a slightly different place and the same work wouldn't have been produced, the actual artist himself couldn't produce the same work if he tried, things have changed. There's so many styles and methods artists use but the ones I admire the most are the ones who follow their own path.
You're inability to respond to my critique says more mr dungle (My cough's castle were actually a nudge about my own info persona of pithy one liners and that actually they don't represent 'me' in any sort of entirety, ergo why should harlands represent substance of a deeper nature? And even if they do, it seems a poor representation of any sort of back story to the uninitiated. Furthermore it's fairly obvious that it's the faux cool lines that garner the most interest that actually say much more about the purchasers than the artists proposed meanings ... But I digress) No worries at all, nothing like a good debate For me its even more about the marks and brushwork than what the words say, that's where the real emotion of Harlands work comes out. An artist I knew was in the gallery a while back and he pointed out another artists work, a photographic style painter and said "I can understand why people pay big money for that because not everyone can paint like that but(he then started pointing at another artists work) I could do that. I had to bite my lip, he didn't get it, he couldn't do it, he could copy it/replicate it but the artwork he was talking about was by an artist who paints in the moment with emotion and directness at that point in time and everything leading up to that point in time had an imput into what evolved on the canvass, that's the method of that painter, if it was 2 days earlier or 2 days later the artist would have been in a slightly different place and the same work wouldn't have been produced, the actual artist himself couldn't produce the same work if he tried, things have changed. There's so many styles and methods artists use but the ones I admire the most are the ones who follow their own path.
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by iamzero on Apr 26, 2014 10:50:38 GMT 1, Wow I never thought I'd end up agreeing with something a gallery commented about on here. Could be the last time though.
Wow I never thought I'd end up agreeing with something a gallery commented about on here. Could be the last time though.
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 12:18:49 GMT 1, You're inability to respond to my critique says more mr dungle (My cough's castle were actually a nudge about my own info persona of pithy one liners and that actually they don't represent 'me' in any sort of entirety, ergo why should harlands represent substance of a deeper nature? And even if they do, it seems a poor representation of any sort of back story to the uninitiated. Furthermore it's fairly obvious that it's the faux cool lines that garner the most interest that actually say much more about the purchasers than the artists proposed meanings ... But I digress) No worries at all, nothing like a good debate For me its even more about the marks and brushwork than what the words say, that's where the real emotion of Harlands work comes out. An artist I knew was in the gallery a while back and he pointed out another artists work, a photographic style painter and said "I can understand why people pay big money for that because not everyone can paint like that but(he then started pointing at another artists work) I could do that. I had to bite my lip, he didn't get it, he couldn't do it, he could copy it/replicate it but the artwork he was talking about was by an artist who paints in the moment with emotion and directness at that point in time and everything leading up to that point in time had an imput into what evolved on the canvass, that's the method of that painter, if it was 2 days earlier or 2 days later the artist would have been in a slightly different place and the same work wouldn't have been produced, the actual artist himself couldn't produce the same work if he tried, things have changed. There's so many styles and methods artists use but the ones I admire the most are the ones who follow their own path. Abstract expressionism.. ewwww
You're inability to respond to my critique says more mr dungle (My cough's castle were actually a nudge about my own info persona of pithy one liners and that actually they don't represent 'me' in any sort of entirety, ergo why should harlands represent substance of a deeper nature? And even if they do, it seems a poor representation of any sort of back story to the uninitiated. Furthermore it's fairly obvious that it's the faux cool lines that garner the most interest that actually say much more about the purchasers than the artists proposed meanings ... But I digress) No worries at all, nothing like a good debate For me its even more about the marks and brushwork than what the words say, that's where the real emotion of Harlands work comes out. An artist I knew was in the gallery a while back and he pointed out another artists work, a photographic style painter and said "I can understand why people pay big money for that because not everyone can paint like that but(he then started pointing at another artists work) I could do that. I had to bite my lip, he didn't get it, he couldn't do it, he could copy it/replicate it but the artwork he was talking about was by an artist who paints in the moment with emotion and directness at that point in time and everything leading up to that point in time had an imput into what evolved on the canvass, that's the method of that painter, if it was 2 days earlier or 2 days later the artist would have been in a slightly different place and the same work wouldn't have been produced, the actual artist himself couldn't produce the same work if he tried, things have changed. There's so many styles and methods artists use but the ones I admire the most are the ones who follow their own path. Abstract expressionism.. ewwww
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 12:33:08 GMT 1, His early work and paintings are brilliant.
His early work and paintings are brilliant.
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 12:37:07 GMT 1, You're inability to respond to my critique says more mr dungle (My cough's castle were actually a nudge about my own info persona of pithy one liners and that actually they don't represent 'me' in any sort of entirety, ergo why should harlands represent substance of a deeper nature? And even if they do, it seems a poor representation of any sort of back story to the uninitiated. Furthermore it's fairly obvious that it's the faux cool lines that garner the most interest that actually say much more about the purchasers than the artists proposed meanings ... But I digress) No worries at all, nothing like a good debate For me its even more about the marks and brushwork than what the words say, that's where the real emotion of Harlands work comes out. An artist I knew was in the gallery a while back and he pointed out another artists work, a photographic style painter and said "I can understand why people pay big money for that because not everyone can paint like that but(he then started pointing at another artists work) I could do that. I had to bite my lip, he didn't get it, he couldn't do it, he could copy it/replicate it but the artwork he was talking about was by an artist who paints in the moment with emotion and directness at that point in time and everything leading up to that point in time had an imput into what evolved on the canvass, that's the method of that painter, if it was 2 days earlier or 2 days later the artist would have been in a slightly different place and the same work wouldn't have been produced, the actual artist himself couldn't produce the same work if he tried, things have changed. There's so many styles and methods artists use but the ones I admire the most are the ones who follow their own path. The trouble with the art world is that people analyse too much and find meanings in art which are non existent.
It's ok for hypotheising an debate but why is a rock in a certain place and not another place. Why did a tree grow where it does etc etc.
Millers art is witty and intellectual and like most art makes people think about it's meaning for at most 30 seconds before being distracted by something else.
You're inability to respond to my critique says more mr dungle (My cough's castle were actually a nudge about my own info persona of pithy one liners and that actually they don't represent 'me' in any sort of entirety, ergo why should harlands represent substance of a deeper nature? And even if they do, it seems a poor representation of any sort of back story to the uninitiated. Furthermore it's fairly obvious that it's the faux cool lines that garner the most interest that actually say much more about the purchasers than the artists proposed meanings ... But I digress) No worries at all, nothing like a good debate For me its even more about the marks and brushwork than what the words say, that's where the real emotion of Harlands work comes out. An artist I knew was in the gallery a while back and he pointed out another artists work, a photographic style painter and said "I can understand why people pay big money for that because not everyone can paint like that but(he then started pointing at another artists work) I could do that. I had to bite my lip, he didn't get it, he couldn't do it, he could copy it/replicate it but the artwork he was talking about was by an artist who paints in the moment with emotion and directness at that point in time and everything leading up to that point in time had an imput into what evolved on the canvass, that's the method of that painter, if it was 2 days earlier or 2 days later the artist would have been in a slightly different place and the same work wouldn't have been produced, the actual artist himself couldn't produce the same work if he tried, things have changed. There's so many styles and methods artists use but the ones I admire the most are the ones who follow their own path. The trouble with the art world is that people analyse too much and find meanings in art which are non existent.
It's ok for hypotheising an debate but why is a rock in a certain place and not another place. Why did a tree grow where it does etc etc.
Millers art is witty and intellectual and like most art makes people think about it's meaning for at most 30 seconds before being distracted by something else.
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 12:43:50 GMT 1, No worries at all, nothing like a good debate For me its even more about the marks and brushwork than what the words say, that's where the real emotion of Harlands work comes out. An artist I knew was in the gallery a while back and he pointed out another artists work, a photographic style painter and said "I can understand why people pay big money for that because not everyone can paint like that but(he then started pointing at another artists work) I could do that. I had to bite my lip, he didn't get it, he couldn't do it, he could copy it/replicate it but the artwork he was talking about was by an artist who paints in the moment with emotion and directness at that point in time and everything leading up to that point in time had an imput into what evolved on the canvass, that's the method of that painter, if it was 2 days earlier or 2 days later the artist would have been in a slightly different place and the same work wouldn't have been produced, the actual artist himself couldn't produce the same work if he tried, things have changed. There's so many styles and methods artists use but the ones I admire the most are the ones who follow their own path. Abstract expressionism.. ewwww Not just abstract expressionism, I'm talking about application with purpose and truth and individuality which creates something unique to that artist, not just producing something because its what they believe the masses will buy.
No worries at all, nothing like a good debate For me its even more about the marks and brushwork than what the words say, that's where the real emotion of Harlands work comes out. An artist I knew was in the gallery a while back and he pointed out another artists work, a photographic style painter and said "I can understand why people pay big money for that because not everyone can paint like that but(he then started pointing at another artists work) I could do that. I had to bite my lip, he didn't get it, he couldn't do it, he could copy it/replicate it but the artwork he was talking about was by an artist who paints in the moment with emotion and directness at that point in time and everything leading up to that point in time had an imput into what evolved on the canvass, that's the method of that painter, if it was 2 days earlier or 2 days later the artist would have been in a slightly different place and the same work wouldn't have been produced, the actual artist himself couldn't produce the same work if he tried, things have changed. There's so many styles and methods artists use but the ones I admire the most are the ones who follow their own path. Abstract expressionism.. ewwww Not just abstract expressionism, I'm talking about application with purpose and truth and individuality which creates something unique to that artist, not just producing something because its what they believe the masses will buy.
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 13:05:37 GMT 1, Abstract expressionism.. ewwww Not just abstract expressionism, I'm talking about application with purpose and truth and individuality which creates something unique to that artist, not just producing something because its what they believe the masses will buy. The masses will buy what they are told to by, by media and hype.
Most are sheep.
Whats the difference between a splodge of paint on canvas by a famous name and a splodge of paint on canvas by an unknown ?
Some discussions on this forum about whether the Cheltenham piece is by Banksy or not shows that y not recognising for certain who the art is by means that there is nothing unique about the stencil art made by Banksy.
again it's the name which people admire not the actual art.
Abstract expressionism.. ewwww Not just abstract expressionism, I'm talking about application with purpose and truth and individuality which creates something unique to that artist, not just producing something because its what they believe the masses will buy. The masses will buy what they are told to by, by media and hype.
Most are sheep.
Whats the difference between a splodge of paint on canvas by a famous name and a splodge of paint on canvas by an unknown ?
Some discussions on this forum about whether the Cheltenham piece is by Banksy or not shows that y not recognising for certain who the art is by means that there is nothing unique about the stencil art made by Banksy.
again it's the name which people admire not the actual art.
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 13:33:10 GMT 1, Not just abstract expressionism, I'm talking about application with purpose and truth and individuality which creates something unique to that artist, not just producing something because its what they believe the masses will buy. The masses will buy what they are told to by, by media and hype.
Most are sheep.
Whats the difference between a splodge of paint on canvas by a famous name and a splodge of paint on canvas by an unknown ?
Some discussions on this forum about whether the Cheltenham piece is by Banksy or not shows that y not recognising for certain who the art is by means that there is nothing unique about the stencil art made by Banksy.
again it's the name which people admire not the actual art.
Surely you don't believe its that simple, there is art out there because it merits being seen by the masses and merits bigger price tags because some artists are exceptionally talented. Yes there's hyping of mediocre former celebrities etc and people who buy because of names but there's millions who genuinely love art and base their decision on purchases based on how much they like the art. Hyped up art that isn't very good will eventually flop because it wont get backing from the industry and because the product is flawed/crap. Hype alone can only get you so far.
Not just abstract expressionism, I'm talking about application with purpose and truth and individuality which creates something unique to that artist, not just producing something because its what they believe the masses will buy. The masses will buy what they are told to by, by media and hype.
Most are sheep.
Whats the difference between a splodge of paint on canvas by a famous name and a splodge of paint on canvas by an unknown ?
Some discussions on this forum about whether the Cheltenham piece is by Banksy or not shows that y not recognising for certain who the art is by means that there is nothing unique about the stencil art made by Banksy.
again it's the name which people admire not the actual art.
Surely you don't believe its that simple, there is art out there because it merits being seen by the masses and merits bigger price tags because some artists are exceptionally talented. Yes there's hyping of mediocre former celebrities etc and people who buy because of names but there's millions who genuinely love art and base their decision on purchases based on how much they like the art. Hyped up art that isn't very good will eventually flop because it wont get backing from the industry and because the product is flawed/crap. Hype alone can only get you so far.
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 14:01:10 GMT 1, Like telling Monet to stop painting water lilies, Eine to stop doing type, Hirst to stop doing dots.
funnily enough two of those three should have definitely stopped those utterly dreary things, one of them died in poverty and didn't as far as I'm aware drain every last drop of blood from an idea, making as much money as possible on the way...
fascinating comparison though
Like telling Monet to stop painting water lilies, Eine to stop doing type, Hirst to stop doing dots.
funnily enough two of those three should have definitely stopped those utterly dreary things, one of them died in poverty and didn't as far as I'm aware drain every last drop of blood from an idea, making as much money as possible on the way...
fascinating comparison though
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Harland Miller Lecture at Royal Academy - ยฃ12, by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 14:02:04 GMT 1, The point I'm poorly making is that 'deep thought process' doesn't translate to the casual viewer, nor does it translate to the popularity of certain pieces...I'm questioning the one liners because quite frankly the reasons for purchasing are worth questioning You seem to be a bit out of your depth. Harland isn't Stik or Outis, having fallen short (and realised it), you switch focus to criticising buyers for buying it for the "wrong" reason. It's like criticising Micallef for painting angels then criticising collectors who buy it for not being theologians. I said quite a lot more than that Nu and you know it, but nice try x
(When I think about what street art was ushering in, then I read the utter vacuous bs around brush strokes and placement whilst staring in your face are banal one liners, I truly realise how far this place has fallen)
The point I'm poorly making is that 'deep thought process' doesn't translate to the casual viewer, nor does it translate to the popularity of certain pieces...I'm questioning the one liners because quite frankly the reasons for purchasing are worth questioning You seem to be a bit out of your depth. Harland isn't Stik or Outis, having fallen short (and realised it), you switch focus to criticising buyers for buying it for the "wrong" reason. It's like criticising Micallef for painting angels then criticising collectors who buy it for not being theologians. I said quite a lot more than that Nu and you know it, but nice try x (When I think about what street art was ushering in, then I read the utter vacuous bs around brush strokes and placement whilst staring in your face are banal one liners, I truly realise how far this place has fallen)
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