[Michael Jacob]

Great job Harveyn for keeping us all updated!

+1

[Run Pig Run]

how long do we leave it until we contact the fraud squad?

[Harveyn]

All

Be assured if it requires that type of action I will take it.

I once again apologize but be assured if action is required it will be taken. Bluebell will get absolutely every penny.

Verbal has until this Sunday to post every auction and confirm all pieces won to date have been posted.

With the news I have just had he would do best to listen as I am no longer in the mood to play nice.

Thanks
Neil

[Run Pig Run]

harveyn said:

All

Be assured if it requires that type of action I will take it.

I once again apologize but be assured if action is required it will be taken. Bluebell will get absolutely every penny.

Verbal has until this Sunday to post every auction and confirm all pieces won to date have been posted.

With the news I have just had he would do best to listen as I am no longer in the mood to play nice.

Thanks
Neil

It's a bit sad that this has happened and I feel sorry for you being caught in the middle after doing such an excellent job of organising everything. maybe he has died or something....
to be honest i hope he just returns everything and its re-listed by someone else.

[graeme501]

i spoke 2 him via PM, he was asking about ghetto prints and how to bid on originals and told me he was going over, and i think he was going over as late as possible to put on some last minute bids, so that would be the 23rd

[corblimeylimey]

Even though I posted my cheque the day after the auction win (12th Dec) it cleared on the 19th Dec, I haven't received anything or heard a word since in spite of a few ebay messages asking what is happening.

The courtesy of a reply would be nice at least.





Verbal.....pull your finger out!






I know you're doing what you can Neil, and I fully appreciate all your efforts, thanks.

[Harveyn]

I will be perfectly honest I am ashamed to be associated with what has happened this year.

Stu (before he resigned as a moderator) ask me if I would like to become a moderator. I only told Silky I would do the job on the basis that I could run next years Charity for the forum. Run for the forum by the forum. This was because I genuinely feel so bad about what has happened this year.

I have run out of apologize on behalf of Verbal and he has run out of deadlines.

After this Sunday action will be taken.

I have had some terrible news in the last couple of days and I am sick to death of being Mr nice guy to Verbal to try and get this resolved.

Verbal up until your last communication 2 or 3 weeks back your only excuse was "I am busy". If something terrible has happened in the interim I apologize. But lets face it this should have been done and dusted by know. Running your business does not even come close to what I do and it is not an excuse.

In the words of CBL get your finger out and behave like a man.

Sorry for the emotional post but I am a little bit emotionally at present.

[Daniel Silk]

Support you 100% Harveyn

It dint need to be like this and it especially shouldn't have been considering its a charity thats involved

[finsburyparkranger]

Mate dont worry too much. Verbal is bit chaotic but he wouldn't steal money from a charity. It doesn't make you look bad either, everyone knows you're just co-ordinating the affair.

We've got one of speebe's fantastic award trophy's to sell (most generous street art geek award) as well as a couple of pieces that frankie was gong to donate on behalf of the artist on the night.

Frankie any chance of a sneak peak of what was included from the permission to paint gang for the charity effort?

Also I promised something so you'll be getting something from me personally too. It might not seem like its going according to plan but we'll all make sure to raise a nice bit of dosh for the bluebell charity in the end.

In the meantime may i suggest that someone takes up the challenge of auctioning any more stuff. Seems like verbals got his hands full or he's been kept by mossad in Israel and i think a plan B may be necessary.

PS did you win the diamond from verbal silky and what was it like?

[loucastel]

harveyn said:

I will be perfectly honest I am ashamed to be associated with what has happened this year.

Stu (before he resigned as a moderator) ask me if I would like to become a moderator. I only told Silky I would do the job on the basis that I could run next years Charity for the forum. Run for the forum by the forum. This was because I genuinely feel so bad about what has happened this year.

I have run out of apologize on behalf of Verbal and he has run out of deadlines.

After this Sunday action will be taken.

I have had some terrible news in the last couple of days and I am sick to death of being Mr nice guy to Verbal to try and get this resolved.

Verbal up until your last communication 2 or 3 weeks back your only excuse was "I am busy". If something terrible has happened in the interim I apologize. But lets face it this should have been done and dusted by know. Running your business does not even come close to what I do and it is not an excuse.

In the words of CBL get your finger out and behave like a man.

I an truly ashamed to be associated with you.

Sorry for the emotional post but I am a little bit emotionally at present.

Our thoughts are with you mate, whatever your news was. you have done a fantastic job for this forum and Im sure nobody on here wants you to feel bad because we all know you had no control over it.
With you in charge next years will be bigger and better. (Almost this year).
you take care ,and I hope 2008 treats you kindly

[corblimeylimey]

loucastel said:

.Our thoughts are with you mate, whatever your news was. you have done a fantastic job for this forum and Im sure nobody on here wants you to feel bad because we all know you had no control over it.
With you in charge next years will be bigger and better. (Almost this year).
you take care ,and I hope 2008 treats you kindly

Agreed, couldn't have put it better myself.

[Harveyn]

Thanks guys but honestly there can be no more excuses.

FPR - It is my full intention to take over from Monday of next week. I will ask Verbal to have everything ready for me to collect and I will send in my freight forwarder to collect.

There is taking the piss and then there is this.

I have held my silence for too long.

[curiousgeorge]

I no nothing of what is going on, but do remember Verbal had some health issues in his family.

Just thought it might be worth pointing that out..

[Harveyn]

CG - You are quite correct.

But in every communication I have had with him I have reiterriated that if there were problems such as you have mentioned then to let me know. Not once did he mention this.

Too busy with work was all that I got in response or his move to London. Yet he has had plenty of time to post about his new bits of art. I know this all sounds harsh but I have had failed promise after failed promise. I have offered on countless occasions to auction the donations for him.

He has promised both myself and Silky to have auctions raised by certain dates and has failed on every occasion.

I now have people contacting me saying that cheques have been cashed for winning bidders but no artwork has been received and countless communications have been ignored.

I have ask on dozens of occasions whether something was wrong and whether I could help and I got in the interim was either "I am to busy" or yes it will be done by this date.

Sorry to everyone but eventually something had to be said.

I have never once suggested that Verbal would do anything dishonest with this Charity and I do not believe he will. In fact read back over my posts and you will find I have defended him at every turn despite his silence in communicating with me.

The last couple of days I have had have made me think long and hard about doing this. I could have walked away and said somethings in life are more important than this. To be honest thats probably what I should have done.

[corndoll]

Thanks Haveyn for chasing up our prints and keeping us informed even though its not your problem or fault.
As you know I PM'd you about my winning bid not arriving but I appreciate your efforts on our behalf.

[themightyreds]

Frustrating that this hasn't all been concluded as smoothly as we all hoped it would, but as long as it all gets done eventually and the charity gets their donations ok i'm sure all the efforts will have been well worth it from all involved.

I'm sure it will all end up being a success and i look forward to next years one going ahead too.

[Harveyn]

I have now had a 3rd person contact me about not receiving their auction item. This person is not a forum member and is extremely annoyed about this situation. They would like to take action as their money is with Verbal and not the charity they thought was being represented.

I am staggered at Verbals approach to this whole situation. I do not care if he has gone to Bethlehem or not as that is purely for his own gain.

Up until the 23.12.2007 there was nothing with respect to his family situation that could be used as an excuse for not auctioning the rest of the pieces or posting the winning bidders their lots. I have received numerous messages from people whom Verbal up until this date had contacted about buying and selling art.

If anything has happened since the 23.12.2007 I am really sorry but lets face it this should have been done and dusted by now. It also appears that the cashing of cheques has not been a problem.

This forums name has been used in each of the auctions and I personally feel culpable.

I have sent Verbal a pm giving him until Sunday to raise all the remaining auctions and post any pieces won to date.

Again I am extremely sorry for this whole situation.

[Daniel Silk]

I have just phoned Verbal, and he say he will get a few pieces posted off today, and will get as much listed up on ebay tonight. I know we have heard that sort of thing before but I think that this really could be his last chance. Fingers crossed its gonna happen this time

[pezlow]

Fingers crossed indeed. I can understand that both of you are frustrated but you are doing as much as you can to sort it out. Let's hope Verbal starts to get the ball rolling again tonight.

[Run Pig Run]

how can we ever be 100% sure all the money is going to charity or people will ever get what they have paid for. it only takes a quick post on here to put our minds at rest, otherwise people are going to lose faith and not bid at all.

[Harveyn]

Ken

I agree that the delay and the lack of communication will effect the amount of money collected for the charity. I do wish Verbal would post something on this forum. I do also think he should let me collect all the remaining donations so I can run an informed and efficient conclusion to this whole sorry event.

On the proof I will personally be contacting Bluebell and presenting to the forum records of the donation made.

[buffin]

Harveyn - No reason for you to feel personally culpable. Think we all have to thank you for not just walking away from the whole thing. Am sure this is the last thing you need right now. Come on guys +1 for Harveyn is the very least we can do.

[manty]

Yep, full marks Neil. Well done for persuing

It is a shame its got to this stage, hopefully it can get back on track and the money given to this wonderful charity.

[Harveyn]

Thank you to everyone for your kind words both in posts and pm's.

Yet another broken promise from Verbal.

I will phone Bluebell on Monday to establish their knowledge of what has happened to date. I will then arrange for all pieces not already sold to be collected by my freight forwarder and delivered to me.

Verbal enough is enough. Your ongoing silence to the members of this forum is not only embarrassing but shameful.

Please post an apology to the people who have donated and post all auctions won to date. As for the remaining donations (over 50 pieces of art) please make them available for me to collect.

Show your face!!!!!!!!!!

[manty]

Would make a good story for the tabloids if this turns sour

Diamond dealer does a runner with childrens hospice money

Lets just get this money where it belongs eh

[finsburyparkranger]

manty said:

Would make a good story for the tabloids if this turns sour

Diamond dealer does a runner with childrens hospice money

Lets just get this money where it belongs eh

This is bad now. Im begining to lose faith. Verbal get your arse here and explain your self buddy or you are going to have the papers up your arse and then the law.

Ok, who actualy knows verbal, like has met him or knows where he lives? Dont post his address publicaly but does anyone have any idea where he might be? Have we got his phone number? Have we got his address? I'm sure he's not done a runner but i get the feeling he's in a bind and needs a prod.

[orangematt]

Lets hope this dont get too dirty and messy ...

i have faith in Harveyn for puttin it right ...

people on the forum have previously vouched for verbal , i aint met him myself..

everyone who posted to him has his address ! it is also posted here on the forum !

I also like to add that if my contribution doesnt surface , i will happily recreate the piece and post it direct to Harveyn this time

All the best guys, SPQR

ps i am positive things will turn out right one way or the other;)

[Deleted]

nice one SPQR, i also have another print the same as i donated and will happily give that to the winning bidder if needed. however i reckon verbal will eventually send the art to the winning bidders.

[themightyreds]

I don't have duplicates i can send of any of the prints i sent to Verbal for this auction but i will give a cash donation of what i expected the prints to go for if they do not surface and will also try to send in something else to be auctioned.
I will also get myself involved in retrieving these prints if they are not listed for auction or collected to be auctioned by someone else.

An explanation from Verbal is long overdue on this.

[manchestermike]

I'm seriously hoping the dude the Neate went to got it!