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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by Deleted on Sept 11, 2013 17:22:57 GMT 1, so i could open up an online gallery with whatever i like showing for sale, no stock and when i get paid either source the print for cheaper or refund the buyer after a couple of months if i can't find it You doing it then Damien?, be careful about the images you use though with copyright etc., unless you want to be anarchistic that is and in that case fill your boots!. What you got for sale on there so far?
so i could open up an online gallery with whatever i like showing for sale, no stock and when i get paid either source the print for cheaper or refund the buyer after a couple of months if i can't find it You doing it then Damien?, be careful about the images you use though with copyright etc., unless you want to be anarchistic that is and in that case fill your boots!. What you got for sale on there so far?
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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by dotdot on Sept 11, 2013 17:23:44 GMT 1, so i could open up an online gallery with whatever i like showing for sale, no stock and when i get paid either source the print for cheaper or refund the buyer after a couple of months if i can't find it
yes you could.
until just one customer gets wind of your "business model".
(it only takes 1...you don't know if they are capable of causing you rep damage)
then from then on ..it's downhill... all the way to the gutter.
btw : wizzy just because an org does something doesn't means it's cool.. whilst i know you didn't say that in so many words - you get my drifty.
take PA and MA for eg... what stock do they have which they don't.. and if you found them touting work they didn't actually have.. would you think hey that's life or would you STRIKE them out for future ref.
ho ho.. that's the reason most shysters go and change their wee name in the vain hope that .. folks won't re-detect them in their new niceguy guise.
..interesting thread.
so i could open up an online gallery with whatever i like showing for sale, no stock and when i get paid either source the print for cheaper or refund the buyer after a couple of months if i can't find it yes you could. until just one customer gets wind of your "business model". (it only takes 1...you don't know if they are capable of causing you rep damage) then from then on ..it's downhill... all the way to the gutter. btw : wizzy just because an org does something doesn't means it's cool.. whilst i know you didn't say that in so many words - you get my drifty. take PA and MA for eg... what stock do they have which they don't.. and if you found them touting work they didn't actually have.. would you think hey that's life or would you STRIKE them out for future ref. ho ho.. that's the reason most shysters go and change their wee name in the vain hope that .. folks won't re-detect them in their new niceguy guise. ..interesting thread.
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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by Deleted on Sept 11, 2013 17:29:01 GMT 1, I know its not good dotdot but you and i know Design Galleries (not saying art galleries here mind) do it ie. someones mate in another gallery has something another client of another gallery wants blah blah, client def gets pissed off though if they get wind of it, when i was in that game i was even offered something i was selling by a dealer who had the email way down the line, didnt buy it though haha.
I know its not good dotdot but you and i know Design Galleries (not saying art galleries here mind) do it ie. someones mate in another gallery has something another client of another gallery wants blah blah, client def gets pissed off though if they get wind of it, when i was in that game i was even offered something i was selling by a dealer who had the email way down the line, didnt buy it though haha.
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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by Damien on Sept 11, 2013 17:37:14 GMT 1, so i could open up an online gallery with whatever i like showing for sale, no stock and when i get paid either source the print for cheaper or refund the buyer after a couple of months if i can't find it You doing it then Damien?, be careful about the images you use though with copyright etc., unless you want to be anarchistic that is and in that case fill your boots!. What you got for sale on there so far? yeah my website is under construction, what would you like to buy wizzy smalls? i can get anything?
so i could open up an online gallery with whatever i like showing for sale, no stock and when i get paid either source the print for cheaper or refund the buyer after a couple of months if i can't find it You doing it then Damien?, be careful about the images you use though with copyright etc., unless you want to be anarchistic that is and in that case fill your boots!. What you got for sale on there so far? yeah my website is under construction, what would you like to buy wizzy smalls? i can get anything?
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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by Damien on Sept 11, 2013 17:38:35 GMT 1, i could sell you a huge original toesucker by case? only 3500 too and i'll do it with free delivery
i could sell you a huge original toesucker by case? only 3500 too and i'll do it with free delivery
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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by Elephants and Castles on Sept 11, 2013 17:39:03 GMT 1, I think there are far more galleries than you think that take part in the same type of sales technique, I'm based in the US but have had 3 incidents with reputable UK based galleries that I purchased art from ( art that was sold as "on-hand" ) and then after paying either a deposit or the full amount was told that the piece was not available anymore or they were having trouble locating it ( aka CND Soldiers signed , paid for full price 3 weeks before "that" auction and then told it had not shipped due to various reasons school holidays, dog has worms, UK postal service taken over by the Polish , then 2 days after "that" auction was not available blahblah blah but they could get me one for an additional 6k on top of what I paid, you know who you are :-) or my personal favorite a Barry McGee which I paid for from another well known gallery that was in his latest show and then resold for a higher amount to an actual friend of mine and then I was told Barry had not wanted the piece sold anymore.... I know what Ivan did is a bit shady but aren't there a lot of people buying prints from Nelly Duff , POW etc and flipping them at a higher cost without having the physical piece on-hand? I do see a rather grey area where this is concerned, let me put it this way if Metropolis Art had sold the piece to another buyer and they had resold it on the Forum for a higher price without picking this up and everyone was happy would this be such a bad thing? As a follow up I have located several collectors pieces of art and I do all my business as transparent as possible, I have had pieces offered to me that go out to collectors and come back to me a few days later double or triple the price, we all know this goes on so why is everyone so shocked? It's good that your all doing your homework but if someone is trying to make some money with a little bit of sidewards thinking then good on them.
I think there are far more galleries than you think that take part in the same type of sales technique, I'm based in the US but have had 3 incidents with reputable UK based galleries that I purchased art from ( art that was sold as "on-hand" ) and then after paying either a deposit or the full amount was told that the piece was not available anymore or they were having trouble locating it ( aka CND Soldiers signed , paid for full price 3 weeks before "that" auction and then told it had not shipped due to various reasons school holidays, dog has worms, UK postal service taken over by the Polish , then 2 days after "that" auction was not available blahblah blah but they could get me one for an additional 6k on top of what I paid, you know who you are :-) or my personal favorite a Barry McGee which I paid for from another well known gallery that was in his latest show and then resold for a higher amount to an actual friend of mine and then I was told Barry had not wanted the piece sold anymore.... I know what Ivan did is a bit shady but aren't there a lot of people buying prints from Nelly Duff , POW etc and flipping them at a higher cost without having the physical piece on-hand? I do see a rather grey area where this is concerned, let me put it this way if Metropolis Art had sold the piece to another buyer and they had resold it on the Forum for a higher price without picking this up and everyone was happy would this be such a bad thing? As a follow up I have located several collectors pieces of art and I do all my business as transparent as possible, I have had pieces offered to me that go out to collectors and come back to me a few days later double or triple the price, we all know this goes on so why is everyone so shocked? It's good that your all doing your homework but if someone is trying to make some money with a little bit of sidewards thinking then good on them.
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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by Deleted on Sept 11, 2013 17:40:14 GMT 1, Buy?, fk that!, if you can sell any of my shite you can have a wage matey, there thats a cupboardful of crap stock you have already.
Buy?, fk that!, if you can sell any of my shite you can have a wage matey, there thats a cupboardful of crap stock you have already.
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Damien
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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by Damien on Sept 11, 2013 17:40:45 GMT 1, so i could open up an online gallery with whatever i like showing for sale, no stock and when i get paid either source the print for cheaper or refund the buyer after a couple of months if i can't find it You doing it then Damien?, be careful about the images you use though with copyright etc., unless you want to be anarchistic that is and in that case fill your boots!. What you got for sale on there so far? or a rare early faile mao? 1895 free delivery
so i could open up an online gallery with whatever i like showing for sale, no stock and when i get paid either source the print for cheaper or refund the buyer after a couple of months if i can't find it You doing it then Damien?, be careful about the images you use though with copyright etc., unless you want to be anarchistic that is and in that case fill your boots!. What you got for sale on there so far? or a rare early faile mao? 1895 free delivery
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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by Damien on Sept 11, 2013 17:42:03 GMT 1, Buy?, fk that!, if you can sell any of my s**te you can have a wage matey, there thats a cupboardful of crap stock you have already. only joking , thats a cracker that case, just looking for more stock now
Buy?, fk that!, if you can sell any of my s**te you can have a wage matey, there thats a cupboardful of crap stock you have already. only joking , thats a cracker that case, just looking for more stock now
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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by Deleted on Sept 11, 2013 17:42:42 GMT 1, Actually Damien, heres an idea, just list everything thats for sale on here at present with a small mark up, see what happens.
Actually Damien, heres an idea, just list everything thats for sale on here at present with a small mark up, see what happens.
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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by Damien on Sept 11, 2013 17:45:12 GMT 1, Actually Damien, heres an idea, just list everything thats for sale on here at present with a small mark up, see what happens.
sounds like a good idea
Actually Damien, heres an idea, just list everything thats for sale on here at present with a small mark up, see what happens. sounds like a good idea
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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by Elephants and Castles on Sept 11, 2013 17:46:06 GMT 1, hahaha you want the honest truth a long time, seriously mate! I'm laid up in bed in Colombia with Pneumonia on vacation. you can swap a Donuts down here for 300 acres of land and a herd of horny goats...
hahaha you want the honest truth a long time, seriously mate! I'm laid up in bed in Colombia with Pneumonia on vacation. you can swap a Donuts down here for 300 acres of land and a herd of horny goats...
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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by Damien on Sept 11, 2013 17:48:32 GMT 1, hahaha you want the honest truth a long time, seriously mate! I'm laid up in bed in Colombia with Pneumonia on vacation. you can swap a Donuts down here for 300 acres of land and a herd of horny goats... only joking, because i am terrible at typing and grammar on here. Hope you get better soon then dude
hahaha you want the honest truth a long time, seriously mate! I'm laid up in bed in Colombia with Pneumonia on vacation. you can swap a Donuts down here for 300 acres of land and a herd of horny goats... only joking, because i am terrible at typing and grammar on here. Hope you get better soon then dude
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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by Elephants and Castles on Sept 11, 2013 19:25:49 GMT 1, Cheers Buddy!
Cheers Buddy!
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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by Lunch Special on Sept 12, 2013 4:14:15 GMT 1, So is a gallery calling someone else a flipper?
So is a gallery calling someone else a flipper?
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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by Quinnster on Sept 12, 2013 7:32:01 GMT 1, So is a gallery calling someone else a flipper?
If you are a pro you are a galley If you are an amateur you are a flipper?
So is a gallery calling someone else a flipper? If you are a pro you are a galley If you are an amateur you are a flipper?
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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by Dungle on Sept 12, 2013 9:55:08 GMT 1, Someone was trying to do this to make ยฃ250?
Someone was trying to do this to make ยฃ250?
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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by Quinnster on Sept 12, 2013 10:10:56 GMT 1, Someone was trying to do this to make ยฃ250?
ยฃ250 for 2 hours work is not too bad.. Shame he was not clever enough to use different names and photos. Then maybe just maybe he would have pulled one over the pros..
Someone was trying to do this to make ยฃ250? ยฃ250 for 2 hours work is not too bad.. Shame he was not clever enough to use different names and photos. Then maybe just maybe he would have pulled one over the pros..
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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by stevieray101 on Sept 12, 2013 14:41:06 GMT 1, Got to admire the minerals on this guy!
Got to admire the minerals on this guy!
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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by londonboy on Sept 12, 2013 14:54:13 GMT 1, Ivan sounded like a nice guy when I met him.
I got his number I think..
Ivan sounded like a nice guy when I met him.
I got his number I think..
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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by thisisanton on Sept 12, 2013 14:54:24 GMT 1, So is a gallery calling someone else a flipper?
those that live in glass houses should not throw stones
So is a gallery calling someone else a flipper? those that live in glass houses should not throw stones
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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by Forbidden Love on Sept 13, 2013 11:11:42 GMT 1, But the gallery is also flipping the print in the first place. Very contradicting.
But the gallery is also flipping the print in the first place. Very contradicting.
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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by Forbidden Love on Sept 13, 2013 11:12:33 GMT 1, And surely the gallery would be happy to have it sold regardless where it goes and if for a higher price?
Yes it is sneaky but I'm looking at this from the other point of view.
And surely the gallery would be happy to have it sold regardless where it goes and if for a higher price?
Yes it is sneaky but I'm looking at this from the other point of view.
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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by rowan on Sept 13, 2013 12:48:21 GMT 1,
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Banksy Chocolate Donuts, by Deleted on Sept 13, 2013 19:19:29 GMT 1, something with a pot and a kettle
something with a pot and a kettle
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