[Richard Seabrooke]

Pretty expensive but if anyone's interested...

www.blkmrktgallery.com/store/?id=124

[brendan1985]

I don't get it? Are we looking at the sold out print from 4 years ago?

[BrotherBern]

Thats what I was wondering

[Damien]

www.blkmrktgallery.com/store/?id=124

this?

[Damien]

that wont work, click on rare collectables on left column, theres some ch aps

[Someones Brain]

Aug 23, 2013 13:00:43 GMT 1 brendan1985 said:

I don't get it? Are we looking at the sold out print from 4 years ago?

No, they have "A Worm in The Suburban Bud, 2009" and "Trapped By Language, 2009" APs in the section "RARE collectibles" (link above), not in the CH section of the website. Both prints $700.

[connecta1]

...always liked Chloe Early's 'Boundary'

[Happy Shopper]

Nice, but priced a bit too high I think.

[aberdoom]

How much would you value a "Trapped by Language" by Conor Harrington then?

[alittle]

Seems about right for a Trapped By Language...

[Deleted]

I think most items including the Kinsey's are all a bit too much $£€

Unless the AP's are unique I don't get it.

[BMG]

Aug 23, 2013 17:33:08 GMT 1 @speebe1 said:

I think most items including the Kinsey's are all a bit too much $£€

Unless the AP's are unique I don't get it.

APs (Artist Proofs) are unique by virtue of the fact that they are APs. It's not complicated. If you're into collecting rare prints or you really like a print but are unable to find it, you may be in the market for an AP if you can find one. 

Cheers
BMG

[anbesivam1]

Aug 23, 2013 17:58:27 GMT 1 BMG said:

Aug 23, 2013 17:33:08 GMT 1 @speebe1 said:

I think most items including the Kinsey's are all a bit too much $£€

Unless the AP's are unique I don't get it.

APs (Artist Proofs) are unique by virtue of the fact that they are APs. It's not complicated. If you're into collecting rare prints or you really like a print but are unable to find it, you may be in the market for an AP if you can find one. 

Cheers
BMG

I guess that told you speebe!

(Completely disagree BTW re: AP's being unique...some editions maybe...but not as a blanket rule)

[Deleted]

So is an AP from a run of APs unique because the artist decided they were not good enough for the print run? or is it another reason?. 

Also whats a PP?.

Also whats an OG?.

[Deleted]

Aug 23, 2013 17:58:27 GMT 1 BMG said:

Aug 23, 2013 17:33:08 GMT 1 @speebe1 said:

I think most items including the Kinsey's are all a bit too much $£€

Unless the AP's are unique I don't get it.

APs (Artist Proofs) are unique by virtue of the fact that they are APs. It's not complicated. If you're into collecting rare prints or you really like a print but are unable to find it, you may be in the market for an AP if you can find one. 

Cheers
BMG

Wow, it's rough when a gallery doesn't know what an Artist's Proof is...

[BMG]

Aug 23, 2013 18:03:44 GMT 1 anbesivam1 said:

Aug 23, 2013 17:58:27 GMT 1 BMG said:

APs (Artist Proofs) are unique by virtue of the fact that they are APs. It's not complicated. If you're into collecting rare prints or you really like a print but are unable to find it, you may be in the market for an AP if you can find one. 

Cheers
BMG

I guess that told you speebe!

(Completely disagree BTW re: AP's being unique...some editions maybe...but not as a blanket rule)

Artist proofs are unique in all cases because they are literally rare. There are simply not very many of them created—10-15% of the edition # in our productions.

There is a lot of info on APs, PP, etc online, but here's a snippet from wiki #artistproofs:
_{Collectors also usually prefer final artist's proofs even when they are identical to the main edition; if nothing else the print may have been presented to a friend by the artist. Prints are generally sold as limited editions, with a print being cheaper than a drawing or painting because the artist/gallery makes more money by selling multiples. An artist's proof has special value because of its extra rarity and its possible differences from the "standard" print, factors that are often reflected in its price.}

Hope this helps. Cheers!
BMG

[ilmambo]

Out of curiosity, how many APs are you selling for each print?
Also, are they just marked as AP or numbered too? Do they come with a COA stating how many APs were printed?

[vinzc]

I think most would agree that an AP that is identical

[vinzc]

I think most would agree that an AP identical to a normal run is just an extension of the normal Ed. It's just another way/ploy to garner more cash for the artist or gallery or printer (whoever is releasing).

Having a ltd run via an alternate color way, or adding 'embellishments' is a different story.

[Sacked...]

I was offered an A/P the other day by a known artist and after many emails back and forth, with me asking why the the price was more than the normal run,it turned out the print was exactly the same as a normal one but just had A/P written on it !! When asked to clarify they seemed to lose patience and said "dont bother,it's sold" !!

[Deleted]

Aug 23, 2013 19:32:11 GMT 1 Sacked... said:

I was offered an A/P the other day by a known artist and after many emails back and forth, with me asking why the the price was more than the normal run,it turned out the print was exactly the same as a normal one but just had A/P written on it !! When asked to clarify they seemed to lose patience and said "dont bother,it's sold" !!

What if the Artist is called Adam Peanut or something?, then its an AP by AP, also is it just a rouse to rake some more dosh in by artist and or gallereenio?.

[Deleted]

I love Adam's work, it's the nuts!!!

[Manty]

Aug 23, 2013 19:32:11 GMT 1 Sacked... said:

I was offered an A/P the other day by a known artist and after many emails back and forth, with me asking why the the price was more than the normal run,it turned out the print was exactly the same as a normal one but just had A/P written on it !! When asked to clarify they seemed to lose patience and said "dont bother,it's sold" !!

APs are a bit of a swizz now a days in my not so f**king humble opinion

My view is they are an artists bunce money, usually sold outside the edition directly by the artist cutting out the gallery, which is all cool and fair in love and war

However I wouldn't pay more then the usual edition for one

Might have been different in the golden olden days

ETA
ooops i just read the thread, and realise its a gallery selling, that kinda of blows my above comment out of the water

[Deleted]

Aug 23, 2013 19:37:28 GMT 1 @jl9079 said:

I love Adam's work, it's the nuts!!!

Eh?, thought we were yakking about Conor Harringtons APs?, whose Adam? is it Adam Neate? has he left Elms now?.

[lifeonwalls]

I try to avoid AP's unless they are numbered AP x/x and or distinguishable from the original edition. 

Fairey uses APs as replacements for damaged prints and it's not public knowledge how many are out there and therefore much easier to fake an AP than it would be to fake a 'normal edition' print.

APs may be rarer, but that doesn't automatically mean they are more valuable to everyone.

[Deleted]

Nige, you may be naughty but you are slow tonight, I was referring to your Adam Peanut

[BMG]

Aug 23, 2013 18:37:46 GMT 1 ilmambo said:

Out of curiosity, how many APs are you selling for each print?
Also, are they just marked as AP or numbered too? Do they come with a COA stating how many APs were printed?

Hi, after a recent flat file count we thought it would be fun to release some of our special prints for collectors out there that might like them. We are only planning on letting go of a few at this time. Most of our APs are individually numbered, signed by the artist and all come with a COA listing the print, total# of APs, and signed by the producer (BLK/MRKT Editions) representative. The artist, of course, also has a small cache for family/friends or commerce.

These APs are not a special/altered version of the original, but an extended 10-15% above and beyond the OG as is standard for numbered print editions. If you're interested, these are gorgeous screen prints recreated from the original paintings and we are very proud of them.

Cheers,
BMG

[randomname]

Artists Proofs used to be different. In the old days, the first prints to come off the press were sharper and clearer. The plates would wear out over the run and the quality would decrease. That's why collectors were willing to pay a premium. Usually, only 10% of the run (at most) would be pulled out as APs.

With modern printing, this is no longer the case. For all intents and purposes, prints are identical. So the premium is only for the sake of rarity. Personally, I think it's more of a snob factor to say you have an AP.

On a side note, an artist offered to sell me a MP of a sold out print I was looking for. One of the screens was accidentally printed twice. She wanted four times the price of the original run. Which I thought was ridiculous and a little insulting.

[Deleted]

Aug 23, 2013 20:13:37 GMT 1 @jl9079 said:

Nige, you may be naughty but you are slow tonight, I was referring to your Adam Peanut

Haaaaaaaaaa i see!, sorry i missed that one!.