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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Manty on Aug 21, 2013 18:14:06 GMT 1, I've always wanted the 'Nam' print but can't get £3k to get one, plus I think £3k is far too much. I dont know if I agree with you or not.
Can someone make my mind up for me while I have a little ramble
these are originals of a 25 edition if i am right? seems a little bit of an oxymoron, however the artist has sprayed each bit of paper using a stencil and a can of paint right? 4 x 25 edition @£3k ea= a very good night out
I remember Neate doing similar where he didnt use a stencil but using black spray in one mighty move sprayed various heads onto paper. They went for £10k a pop from memory.
I dont know if i would buy one of these or not, i have spunked cash on worse things.
I suppose Dolk is pretty much top of the tree insofar as his marketing and being noticed. Its all rather average really from my viewpoint, saying that I pretty much like all the editions, but nothing gives me the wow factor
I would only part with my cash if i knew i could get my money back in a year or so.
I am bored with this ramble now, as you were
I've always wanted the 'Nam' print but can't get £3k to get one, plus I think £3k is far too much. I dont know if I agree with you or not. Can someone make my mind up for me while I have a little ramble these are originals of a 25 edition if i am right? seems a little bit of an oxymoron, however the artist has sprayed each bit of paper using a stencil and a can of paint right? 4 x 25 edition @£3k ea= a very good night out I remember Neate doing similar where he didnt use a stencil but using black spray in one mighty move sprayed various heads onto paper. They went for £10k a pop from memory. I dont know if i would buy one of these or not, i have spunked cash on worse things. I suppose Dolk is pretty much top of the tree insofar as his marketing and being noticed. Its all rather average really from my viewpoint, saying that I pretty much like all the editions, but nothing gives me the wow factor I would only part with my cash if i knew i could get my money back in a year or so. I am bored with this ramble now, as you were
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by kendo on Aug 21, 2013 20:45:05 GMT 1, I was thinking the same Manty - in two minds as it's big bucks!
It says 'All 25 editions are hand painted and numbered and signed on the front', so in theory they will be unique albeit with the same image!
As these are on paper and at 97x68 cm framing will not be cheap especially if using UV / museum glass.
Also, they aren't quite £3k - after doing a quite currency conversion they are closer to £2700!
I was thinking the same Manty - in two minds as it's big bucks!
It says 'All 25 editions are hand painted and numbered and signed on the front', so in theory they will be unique albeit with the same image!
As these are on paper and at 97x68 cm framing will not be cheap especially if using UV / museum glass.
Also, they aren't quite £3k - after doing a quite currency conversion they are closer to £2700!
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by whiteboy on Aug 22, 2013 12:49:31 GMT 1, I was thinking the same Manty - in two minds as it's big bucks! It says 'All 25 editions are hand painted and numbered and signed on the front', so in theory they will be unique albeit with the same image! As these are on paper and at 97x68 cm framing will not be cheap especially if using UV / museum glass. Also, they aren't quite £3k - after doing a quite currency conversion they are closer to £2700! How much to ship to the UK from Bergen? How much will a decent frame/glass cost? Let's call it £3k
(splitting hairs)
I was thinking the same Manty - in two minds as it's big bucks! It says 'All 25 editions are hand painted and numbered and signed on the front', so in theory they will be unique albeit with the same image! As these are on paper and at 97x68 cm framing will not be cheap especially if using UV / museum glass. Also, they aren't quite £3k - after doing a quite currency conversion they are closer to £2700! How much to ship to the UK from Bergen? How much will a decent frame/glass cost? Let's call it £3k (splitting hairs)
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 18:29:57 GMT 1, I was thinking that a hand sprayed multiple of 25 at £2700 a pop didn't sound so bad when compared to secondary market prices of some prints...
Still a decent amount of $$$$ to drop but heh, you can't take it with you......
I was thinking that a hand sprayed multiple of 25 at £2700 a pop didn't sound so bad when compared to secondary market prices of some prints...
Still a decent amount of $$$$ to drop but heh, you can't take it with you......
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Forbidden Love on Aug 23, 2013 18:49:11 GMT 1, I was thinking the same Manty - in two minds as it's big bucks! It says 'All 25 editions are hand painted and numbered and signed on the front', so in theory they will be unique albeit with the same image! As these are on paper and at 97x68 cm framing will not be cheap especially if using UV / museum glass. Also, they aren't quite £3k - after doing a quite currency conversion they are closer to £2700!
If you can afford this you could probably afford the framing. Depends where you go also.
I was thinking the same Manty - in two minds as it's big bucks! It says 'All 25 editions are hand painted and numbered and signed on the front', so in theory they will be unique albeit with the same image! As these are on paper and at 97x68 cm framing will not be cheap especially if using UV / museum glass. Also, they aren't quite £3k - after doing a quite currency conversion they are closer to £2700! If you can afford this you could probably afford the framing. Depends where you go also.
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by sierrahotel on Aug 23, 2013 19:21:03 GMT 1, far too expensive - 3/4 times the price of a great colour screen print like Toy - doesn't add up - hand sprayed or otherwise. Best of luck to him though.
far too expensive - 3/4 times the price of a great colour screen print like Toy - doesn't add up - hand sprayed or otherwise. Best of luck to him though.
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 19:37:30 GMT 1, The thing is though that these WILL sell out.
How much is something worth? How much someone is prepared to pay for it.
The thing is though that these WILL sell out.
How much is something worth? How much someone is prepared to pay for it.
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 19:39:49 GMT 1, Just to add I would love it if he brought out the Nam as a regular edition print.
Just to add I would love it if he brought out the Nam as a regular edition print.
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by disdig1 on Aug 23, 2013 19:45:10 GMT 1, if he sells out the show that means he priced them right. personally i think the prices are pretty high but more power to him if he can command those prices.
if he sells out the show that means he priced them right. personally i think the prices are pretty high but more power to him if he can command those prices.
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by BKBOI on Aug 23, 2013 19:46:11 GMT 1, People really are paying that much for his work!? Strike while he is so hawt right now.
People really are paying that much for his work!? Strike while he is so hawt right now.
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by whiteboy on Aug 24, 2013 15:58:48 GMT 1, Just to add I would love it if he brought out the Nam as a regular edition print. This is the one I've been waiting for. I really hope it happens.
Just to add I would love it if he brought out the Nam as a regular edition print. This is the one I've been waiting for. I really hope it happens.
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 16:02:53 GMT 1, Just to add I would love it if he brought out the Nam as a regular edition print. This is the one I've been waiting for. I really hope it happens.
Me too. I've seen the real life footage of this and it is truly shocking but it just works as a print IMO.
Just to add I would love it if he brought out the Nam as a regular edition print. This is the one I've been waiting for. I really hope it happens. Me too. I've seen the real life footage of this and it is truly shocking but it just works as a print IMO.
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by pelle on Aug 24, 2013 16:23:08 GMT 1,
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by DrWhite on Aug 24, 2013 16:46:17 GMT 1, Been after a grenade lovers for a while, I would definately consider one of the ed25 on paper.
Been after a grenade lovers for a while, I would definately consider one of the ed25 on paper.
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Manty
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Manty on Aug 24, 2013 17:02:17 GMT 1, same as, Its tempting
Any idea how many grenade canvasses there are, and how much they have sold for?
ETA
google is good at finding these things out
“Grenade Lovers” 2007 - 100×70 - Edition of 15 – Sold for: 48.000 NOK / £5200
same as, Its tempting
Any idea how many grenade canvasses there are, and how much they have sold for?
ETA
google is good at finding these things out
“Grenade Lovers” 2007 - 100×70 - Edition of 15 – Sold for: 48.000 NOK / £5200
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by dotdot on Aug 24, 2013 17:10:23 GMT 1, IMO 3k for nam is top of the top, if you like and will hang fork else steer this is far too high. I should have bought when hmp had the canvas for guess how much. (And don't double take me, I have the emails).
Whilst yes it's cool it's not 3k cool , it's cough.
Manty I remember those works , looking back on it is like looking back on a slow mo 'Julie christie and Donald Sutherland in a film about death and the afterlife'.
Careful out there.
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IMO 3k for nam is top of the top, if you like and will hang fork else steer this is far too high. I should have bought when hmp had the canvas for guess how much. (And don't double take me, I have the emails).
Whilst yes it's cool it's not 3k cool , it's cough.
Manty I remember those works , looking back on it is like looking back on a slow mo 'Julie christie and Donald Sutherland in a film about death and the afterlife'.
Careful out there.
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Gulosten on Aug 24, 2013 17:12:53 GMT 1, same as, Its tempting Any idea how many grenade canvasses there are, and how much they have sold for? ETA google is good at finding these things out “Grenade Lovers” 2007 - 100×70 - Edition of 15 – Sold for: 48.000 NOK / £5200 Remember the 25% commision on top
same as, Its tempting Any idea how many grenade canvasses there are, and how much they have sold for? ETA google is good at finding these things out “Grenade Lovers” 2007 - 100×70 - Edition of 15 – Sold for: 48.000 NOK / £5200 Remember the 25% commision on top
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Gard on Aug 24, 2013 17:14:13 GMT 1, The Grenade Lovers canvases are edition 15. I believe the canvases are worth 8500 pounds today.
The Grenade Lovers canvases are edition 15. I believe the canvases are worth 8500 pounds today.
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by DrWhite on Aug 24, 2013 18:10:14 GMT 1, The Grenade Lovers canvases are edition 15. I believe the canvases are worth 8500 pounds today. If you could find one !
The Grenade Lovers canvases are edition 15. I believe the canvases are worth 8500 pounds today. If you could find one !
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Gard on Aug 24, 2013 18:37:32 GMT 1, The Grenade Lovers canvases are edition 15. I believe the canvases are worth 8500 pounds today. If you could find one ! Yeah, that's true. I wouldn't sell mine for less then 10k (I'm not saying it's worth that, but I would start thinking about letting it go at that price)
The Grenade Lovers canvases are edition 15. I believe the canvases are worth 8500 pounds today. If you could find one ! Yeah, that's true. I wouldn't sell mine for less then 10k (I'm not saying it's worth that, but I would start thinking about letting it go at that price)
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by kobron on Aug 24, 2013 18:49:38 GMT 1, I won a Pulitzer Prize in 1969 for a photograph of one man shooting another … The general killed the Viet Cong; I killed the general with my camera. Still photographs are the most powerful weapon in the world. People believe them, but photographs do lie, even without manipulation. They are only half-truths. What the photograph didn’t say was, “What would you do if you were the general at that time and place on that hot day, and you caught the so-called bad guy after he blew away one, two or three American soldiers?” General Loan was what you would call a real warrior, admired by his troops. I’m not saying what he did was right, but you have to put yourself in his position.
…This picture really messed up his life. He never blamed me. He told me if I hadn’t taken the picture, someone else would have, but I’ve felt bad for him and his family for a long time. I had kept in contact with him; the last time we spoke was about six months ago, when he was very ill. I sent flowers when I heard that he had died and wrote, “I’m sorry. There are tears in my eyes.” –Eddie Adams www.famouspictures.org/vietnam-execution/ ======================= comparably to - The Dachau liberation reprisals were a series of killings of German camp guards and German prisoners of war from the Dachau concentration camp on April 29, 1945, during World War II. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dachau_liberation_reprisals)
I won a Pulitzer Prize in 1969 for a photograph of one man shooting another … The general killed the Viet Cong; I killed the general with my camera. Still photographs are the most powerful weapon in the world. People believe them, but photographs do lie, even without manipulation. They are only half-truths. What the photograph didn’t say was, “What would you do if you were the general at that time and place on that hot day, and you caught the so-called bad guy after he blew away one, two or three American soldiers?” General Loan was what you would call a real warrior, admired by his troops. I’m not saying what he did was right, but you have to put yourself in his position. …This picture really messed up his life. He never blamed me. He told me if I hadn’t taken the picture, someone else would have, but I’ve felt bad for him and his family for a long time. I had kept in contact with him; the last time we spoke was about six months ago, when he was very ill. I sent flowers when I heard that he had died and wrote, “I’m sorry. There are tears in my eyes.” –Eddie Adams www.famouspictures.org/vietnam-execution/======================= comparably to - The Dachau liberation reprisals were a series of killings of German camp guards and German prisoners of war from the Dachau concentration camp on April 29, 1945, during World War II. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dachau_liberation_reprisals)
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 20:00:25 GMT 1, War is hell. Turns people into animals.
War is hell. Turns people into animals.
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 0:15:02 GMT 1, The Grenade Lovers canvases are edition 15. I believe the canvases are worth 8500 pounds today.
Sorry but people should be disputing comments like this. Just because a select few with money buy on the primary pay these prices and above , this does not mean in the secondary this is the 'going rate'.
This gap in expectations is something anyone investing in Dolk should worry about, there is little to no proof that his prices are increasing to these stated levels at present in the secondary.
One other thing that should concern potential buyers is the output of Dolk, this latest show and I've seen the PDF is not great, of the headline pieces I've struggled to find one of note.
I'm sure there's a good 5 stong network of gallery owners, rich buyers and duped lower level buyers (who've used money they don't intrinsically have to buy inflated canvas prices ) who will dispute this post wholeheartedly . I'd ask anyone new to this and tempted to at least consider my post.
The Grenade Lovers canvases are edition 15. I believe the canvases are worth 8500 pounds today. Sorry but people should be disputing comments like this. Just because a select few with money buy on the primary pay these prices and above , this does not mean in the secondary this is the 'going rate'. This gap in expectations is something anyone investing in Dolk should worry about, there is little to no proof that his prices are increasing to these stated levels at present in the secondary. One other thing that should concern potential buyers is the output of Dolk, this latest show and I've seen the PDF is not great, of the headline pieces I've struggled to find one of note. I'm sure there's a good 5 stong network of gallery owners, rich buyers and duped lower level buyers (who've used money they don't intrinsically have to buy inflated canvas prices ) who will dispute this post wholeheartedly . I'd ask anyone new to this and tempted to at least consider my post.
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 1:18:04 GMT 1, War is hell. Turns people into animals. it changes people happy meal. Try speaking to a guy who served in iraq with ingrained image of child tryibg to feed off a womans breast and she so malnurished no milk coming out. Anyway a year later in iraq rhe iraqi children sing christmas carols for the troops he still has that image flashback and bursts into tears like a child. Yes war is hell. Back to the drink.
War is hell. Turns people into animals. it changes people happy meal. Try speaking to a guy who served in iraq with ingrained image of child tryibg to feed off a womans breast and she so malnurished no milk coming out. Anyway a year later in iraq rhe iraqi children sing christmas carols for the troops he still has that image flashback and bursts into tears like a child. Yes war is hell. Back to the drink.
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by gravity1 on Aug 25, 2013 1:44:22 GMT 1, I kinda like it... on the flip side if banksy did it everyone would be fighting over the real meaning and praising it. Bottom line u either like it or not... no biggie either way. I believe that canvas series sold out anyway.
I am going to have to more or less agree with Badrobot on this one (WHAT !?! ) If Bambi released this we would all be laughing .. ..
I kinda like it... on the flip side if banksy did it everyone would be fighting over the real meaning and praising it. Bottom line u either like it or not... no biggie either way. I believe that canvas series sold out anyway. I am going to have to more or less agree with Badrobot on this one (WHAT !?! ) If Bambi released this we would all be laughing .. ..
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by tigerblood on Aug 25, 2013 2:02:27 GMT 1, I'm interested to see how the Prison Painter does on the bay. Been a while since I've seen one of them come up with no/low reserve.
I'm interested to see how the Prison Painter does on the bay. Been a while since I've seen one of them come up with no/low reserve.
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 2:10:47 GMT 1, I believe that canvas series sold out anyway. [/quote]
I've heard these kind of statements time and again here (for many different artists) do you know how often they've been true?
That's not to say you're lying just that you've been told something you've implied this from, because that's the message they want sold.
I believe that canvas series sold out anyway. [/quote] I've heard these kind of statements time and again here (for many different artists) do you know how often they've been true? That's not to say you're lying just that you've been told something you've implied this from, because that's the message they want sold.
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 8:56:50 GMT 1, War is hell. Turns people into animals. it changes people happy meal. Try speaking to a guy who served in iraq with ingrained image of child tryibg to feed off a womans breast and she so malnurished no milk coming out. Anyway a year later in iraq rhe iraqi children sing christmas carols for the troops he still has that image flashback and bursts into tears like a child. Yes war is hell. Back to the drink. LOL.. no words.
War is hell. Turns people into animals. it changes people happy meal. Try speaking to a guy who served in iraq with ingrained image of child tryibg to feed off a womans breast and she so malnurished no milk coming out. Anyway a year later in iraq rhe iraqi children sing christmas carols for the troops he still has that image flashback and bursts into tears like a child. Yes war is hell. Back to the drink. LOL.. no words.
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by curiousgeorge on Aug 25, 2013 11:28:29 GMT 1, PTSD is no laughing matter Nuart.Wouldn't wish that crap on my worst enemy, sorry if I read that wrong and you were LOL'ing at something else
PTSD is no laughing matter Nuart.Wouldn't wish that crap on my worst enemy, sorry if I read that wrong and you were LOL'ing at something else
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