Bonhams Print Sale 16th of May

[chester]

Nice Selection.....

[HRE]

Link?

[Jean-Pascal]

www.bonhams.com/auctions/19781/

[tezpellet]

can anyone shed a bit of light on some of the items titled "After......."

there is, after roy lichtenstein, after andy warhol,

thanks for this link, some lovely caulfields there which ive been after for a while and hockney, miro, murakami and even a couple of lowries,

thanks

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[brushstrokes75]

Does't mean that at all

[brushstrokes75]

Once upon a time in the land of great artists, artists were making original graphics for their print. A print that was made using an image from a different medium (drawing, painting etc...) is called after. Basically, it's a print after a painting.

After, you can have "after" prints printed after the artist death......

Example :

The lichtenstein at Bonhams is an "after" because it was printed after a painting (and some of them are signed)

Here is the original drawing leading to the painting & the prints (there's a tryptich)


www.aaa.si.edu/assets/images/lichroy/fullsize/AAA_lichroy_8790.jpg

[Jean-Pascal]

lol!!thanks Brushstrokes. I already deleted my last post:)

[HRE]

Thanks Jean-Pascal for the link

[brushstrokes75]

Got a couple things in there as well so hope it does well. It's weird that the most expensive piece is only £5K (or is it just me?)

Agreed brushstrokes considering price for Banksys prints and he is still living.

[tezpellet]

thanks for the info chaps

lovely story there too,

[chester]

Hi Brushstrokes, I believe the KB sales concentrate on prints between 500-5,000 and Bond Street takes the high value prints.

[hubblebubble]

Will be guided by you on this brushstrokes but I always thought that 'after' meant, effectively, 'this is a piece of work that is not by the artist themself (albeit that it might be subsequently signed by them as, perhaps, part of a later edition)' For instance Sunday B Morning are 'after' Warhol because they're not his works. They're based on his works and produced and authenticated by his estate but the process and approvals weren't supervised by him...
As I say... I'll be guided by you...

[sanchorockin78]

May 5, 2012 14:49:56 GMT 1 Jean-Pascal said:

www.bonhams.com/auctions/19781/

Thanks for the link JP, I am very tempted by some of these!. I need some Terry Frost & Miró my life

[printguru]

after is a tricky term. However, it means the following. The matrix that the work was created on was not produced by the artist, but rather a professional printmaker. This is usually done under the artists supervision, and the work is subsequently signed by the artist.

A good example are the After prints produced by Jacques Villion, he was a brilliant printmaker and was far more technically adept than the artists whose paintings he reproduced in aquatint form. These artists turned to him to effectively copy their works in aquatint so that an edition could be produced. They signed them and they were published, in some cases Villion was asked to sign them to, such was the level of work he did. Another good example is Marc Chagall who worked very closely with an expert chromes called Charles Sorlier, some of Chagalls's most accomplished lithographs are actually afters, produced by Charles Sorlier.

In some cases the artists were dead, but their estates turned to him to do the work. In the case of Renoir, Cezanne, Van Gough, and Manet.

After also extends to reproductive posters, i.e. a poster replicating a painting by a given artist.

And of course the famous Sunday B Warhols, though frankly they are just outright copies and should not be classified as anything but that.

The term is complicated as it's a bit of an auction house get out clause, i.e. if they don't know exactly who did the work, it's easy to say after, and thus vaguely attribute a work to a famous artist, thus jacking the value of it.

There are some Afters I would buy, but they are few and far between - As always buyer beware.

[rsyok]

Thanks guru and brushtrokes for the insight, expanding my knowledge of the 'grown up' art world.
I presume its a bit of a clause.

Next question AR - Artist Resale premiums are these a set percentage or varied ?

Edit: I just found it for lots sold @ 1000 Euro+ 4% premium up to 50,000 euro.

[printguru]

That's right for all living and dead (up to 50 years) European artists. As you spend the percentage goes down, I don't recall the break to 3 off the top of my head, but it's a lot.

[popmozz]

Wasnt Kate a steal?
27k incl. premium, that sounds quite nice...