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Post by BorntoKiln on Mar 28, 2012 12:01:12 GMT 1
Oh and Sean, you need to get a little UV light on your grenade.
Your missing half the fun my friend.
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Post by Daniel Silk on Apr 18, 2012 20:56:36 GMT 1
Love the Grenade  Yeah, I guess the lighting can make a big difference. |
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Post by artmanic1234 on Apr 18, 2012 21:47:03 GMT 1
very cool grenades look super mate!!
cheers calum
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Post by stoko on Apr 19, 2012 14:01:17 GMT 1
Great thread. Those grenades need a re run!
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Post by BorntoKiln on Apr 19, 2012 23:01:22 GMT 1
Love the Grenade Yeah, I guess the lighting can make a big difference. Cheers fella. It does. Glass needs to be lit well for full effect, they go hand in hand. Does make all the difference. |
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Post by BorntoKiln on Apr 19, 2012 23:05:27 GMT 1
Thanks very much artmanic, stoko. Glad you like.
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Post by BorntoKiln on May 15, 2012 11:40:51 GMT 1
 Artist Statement. Here's a quick interview I did with wreckage in 2009. With the help of Layne I produced these pieces, I was Layne´s Assistant. Layne did the hot work and I took care of the cold. We started out as a partnership but as time went by Layne started to lose enthusiasm for the project, said my idea was student like. As I had already put a lot of time and energy into this project I decided to continue and ask Layne to help me as a craftsman so I could continue my project. And we both agreed on the fee for his service and help with development. After the Mutate show, which I invited him along too, his behavior changed rapidly. I started to feel eased out of the studio and he started to delay pending works I needed for the ink d show. So I took ail my pieces and had them finished at another studio. The Ink d show was a roaring success for me and I sold all pieces on show. I think Layne saw a good thing. As he decided to shut me down from working with other studios in London. I´m a complete outsider artist in the glass world and I get the feeling Layne resented a nobody had just entered the arena and done so well and was championing his medium within these art circles. So he then nicked all my ideas and decided to pass them off as his own. Lovely. I could write a lot more but am getting bored and have somewhere to go. Open to all questions and back stabbing if you would so prefer. Id just like to point out that when the dust settles in 30-40 years time my pieces will be the more collectible for the sole reason of obscurity. Cheers J |
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Post by saint on May 22, 2012 13:26:38 GMT 1
Jimmy, just seen your post mate.
Not sure what has happened, but as far as i'm concerned these are yours and this Layne guy has copied you ridiculously. How you can be so calm about it is unknown to me, i'd take him to task.
I love my grenade, and as soon as it is in place i will post pics. Anyone interested in the grenades (or the bullets, which are also great), should view Jimmy's as being the authentic originals IMO.
Sounds like this Layne guy is a right plum mate, sorry you have had to suffer his nonsense.
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Post by Guest on May 22, 2012 13:31:20 GMT 1
Layne sounds lame
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Post by elwheel on May 22, 2012 13:59:39 GMT 1
That's such poor form Jim. If you need any help outsourcing craft ask the peeps here - they could help. If you wanna relocate to Belfast you'd be very welcome
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Post by Natas on May 22, 2012 16:30:30 GMT 1
He seems to be getting quite a bit of publicity for his pieces online and certainly has a lot of talent what a shame his ideas were not her own and has ripped them off to the detriment of Jim.
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Post by BorntoKiln on May 22, 2012 22:38:30 GMT 1
Jimmy, just seen your post mate. Not sure what has happened, but as far as i'm concerned these are yours and this Layne guy has copied you ridiculously. How you can be so calm about it is unknown to me, i'd take him to task. I love my grenade, and as soon as it is in place i will post pics. Anyone interested in the grenades (or the bullets, which are also great), should view Jimmy's as being the authentic originals IMO. Sounds like this Layne guy is a right plum mate, sorry you have had to suffer his nonsense. Cheers saint. Your not wrong, this is my work which came from my personal thoughts and thinking regarding the military. I don´t see the point in getting bitter and twisted about things, thats not going to solve anything. What I have to do is carry on producing them and move onto the next project and idea. Thanks for the comment, you know what original means. unlike some on here  |
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Post by BorntoKiln on May 22, 2012 22:41:42 GMT 1
;D to put it mildly - Cheers fella. |
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Post by BorntoKiln on May 22, 2012 22:50:19 GMT 1
That's such poor form Jim. If you need any help outsourcing craft ask the peeps here - they could help. If you wanna relocate to Belfast you'd be very welcome elwheel, your a gem. Very kind offer, fortunately Iv found a great little studio near the med. Im sure Id love the hospitality in Belfast but I fear its a tad too cold for these old bones of mine. Best!! |
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Post by craigf on May 22, 2012 23:02:18 GMT 1
Love my grenades Jim, these are a poor copy, i am sure they are well made, but the meaning is a facsimile of your idea
Hope all is good in the sun for you
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Post by BorntoKiln on May 22, 2012 23:18:11 GMT 1
She seems to be getting quite a bit of publicity for her pieces online and certainly has a lot of talent what a shame her ideas were not her own and has ripped them off to the detriment of Jim. Without a doubt, very talented craftsman. I´m not going to say Artist, cos an Artist has their own ideas. Every piece he has produced and toured with are my ideas with drawing submitted over a pint and a gentleman´s agreement. If you check out my first post on this thread you will see among the mushrooms a chandelier. This is how it should have looked with the bullets creating the light tips. It should have been done with coloured glass and fiber optics producing the light source. A major fail IMO. Thanks for the comment Natas. |
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Post by BorntoKiln on May 22, 2012 23:42:21 GMT 1
Love my grenades Jim, these are a poor copy, i am sure they are well made, but the meaning is a facsimile of your idea Hope all is good in the sun for you Craig your a gent fella, and spot on. Cheers. Its not bad here, but I do miss the kids a pint and me football. And the old thursday night gallery piss up with me mates. Anyway, enough for tonight. I´ll leave you good people to it. Goodnight and thank you! |
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Post by War Boutique on May 23, 2012 2:20:42 GMT 1
I've loved Jimmy's work ever since I first saw it at Mutate's One Foot In The Grove.
His glass grenades and bullets are simply stunning and I love the originality of his work and the sentiments behind it, especially knowing that the inspiration for the work comes from such a personal place. So sorry to hear that someone else is passing off his work as their own, that's just not right.
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Post by johnnyh on May 23, 2012 9:48:06 GMT 1
Jim sorry to hear of this situation but I also think your attitude is right and in a way a compliment of sorts. As mentioned the difference is that you have the ideas and will continue to create which is where he wil come unstuck.
I commented a couple of pages ago on the fact it was cool to see you guys just creating for the right reasons and this just re enforces that thought. Good luck to you mate good karma follows. As for him what goes around comes around and bad karma also follows
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Post by BorntoKiln on May 23, 2012 11:44:29 GMT 1
I've loved Jimmy's work ever since I first saw it at Mutate's One Foot In The Grove. His glass grenades and bullets are simply stunning and I love the originality of his work and the sentiments behind it, especially knowing that the inspiration for the work comes from such a personal place. So sorry to hear that someone else is passing off his work as their own, that's just not right. Thanks very much for the comment WB. |
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Post by BorntoKiln on May 23, 2012 12:18:38 GMT 1
Jim sorry to hear of this situation but I also think your attitude is right and in a way a compliment of sorts. As mentioned the difference is that you have the ideas and will continue to create which is where he wil come unstuck. I commented a couple of pages ago on the fact it was cool to see you guys just creating for the right reasons and this just re enforces that thought. Good luck to you mate good karma follows. As for him what goes around comes around and bad karma also follows Cheers johnny, your a gent that talks a lot of sense. Funny enough I do think that being copied is a compliment of some sort. And you can always turn a negative into a positive with a little hard work and perseverance. I´m not going away, he would very much like me to but its not going to happen. There´s a few of his people on here, that have been trying to discredit me. In an underhand way, of course. I´m not going to mention any names cos its not my style. I´m just going to get my head down and work. Best!! |
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Post by sean on May 23, 2012 17:28:32 GMT 1
F*** me! Just had a look at the work produced by Layne Rowe - that's all your work Jim. That's scandalous! I remember a few years ago meeting Jimmy - after my wife had pursuaded him to part with one of his grenades displayed at 'One Foot In The Grove' - and talking about why he wasn't producing more of these, particularly as demand was clearly there. Jimmy mentioned then how he'd been stitched up by someone. ( At this point he didn't mention names ). What I didn't fully appreciate then was the exact depth of plagiarism ( if that's the right phrase in this case ). Having now seen this work Jimmy, I can understand your frustration and what you said falls into place. I will complement you on the calmness with which you've dealt with this, and politely retold the story of being shafted to colleagues of mine or my wife. I doubt if I would have remained as calm as you. That bit at the bottom of the site 'copyright@LayneRowe 2011' is taking the p***. If anyone here isn't sure, have a look at Jim's first post, and compare that to the work seen here: www.layneroweglass.co.uk/gallery3.html |
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Post by coach on May 23, 2012 21:03:06 GMT 1
Plagiarism is never pretty.
I feel for you Jim.
I know that you are taking the higher moral ground.
But have you explored whether there is anything that you can do about this - particularly if you ae suffering financially as a result.
PM me about this if you like.
In the meantime, I have wanted one of your granades now for so long, its painful.
Can you let me know what you ahve available at the moment.
Cheers
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Post by sean on May 23, 2012 21:31:31 GMT 1
Like this one Coach?  Sorry, but any opportunity to show it off. And one of these days I'll light it properly. To add to what I said earlier, Jimmy helped me out tremendously with giving me access to his work and that of War Boutique for a production I was staging. A few pics from the fit up.     It's the above pic that illustrates how much the Layne Rowe work has 'borrowed' from this. Through my dealings with Jimmy it was clear that he was incredibly passionate about his work, but also disillusioned about how he was being discredited and appeared powerless to deal with it. It is only when I saw the work on the Layne Rowe website that I can see the full extent of the theft. As a minimum Jim I think you ought to atleast take advice from someone with experience of this sort of thing. |
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Post by BorntoKiln on May 24, 2012 11:00:47 GMT 1
Thanks for the comments Sean. I was very naive when I entered the art word, Iv learnt a lot since. Still ....... I don´t want to be one of them people that trusts no one. I like to look for the best in a person rather than the negative. I believe that if you have a gentleman's agreement and shake hands you should honor the agreement. I guess that still makes me naive in this brave new world. Does that make sense, I enjoyed the Madrid nightlife last night and ain't the sharpest pencil today.  |
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Post by BorntoKiln on May 24, 2012 11:05:25 GMT 1
 Illustrator file sent to Layne on 02-09-2008. We actually started making this together before he eased me out the studio. |
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Post by BorntoKiln on May 24, 2012 11:15:33 GMT 1
Plagiarism is never pretty. I feel for you Jim. I know that you are taking the higher moral ground. But have you explored whether there is anything that you can do about this - particularly if you ae suffering financially as a result. PM me about this if you like. In the meantime, I have wanted one of your granades now for so long, its painful. Can you let me know what you ahve available at the moment. Cheers Cheers coach, a very kind offer. |
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Post by anbesivam1 on May 24, 2012 15:49:43 GMT 1
Illustrator file sent to Layne on 02-09-2008. We actually started making this together before he eased me out the studio. Dude, I recently (5 months ago) bought a grenade from a gallery in York after seeing it in a major exhibition at the V&A...I had no idea Layne Rowe had stolen your artistic ideas. Mate, if I had known, I would never had bought it...(even though the gallery owner is a lovely guy and was struggling with cash flow at the time). Now looking at his work at Londonglassblowing... it is totally different to your ideas...it is so different to his usual work it is not even funny trying to pass your ideas off as his own. You have shown impeccable restraint and gentlemanly conduct in the manner you have dealt with this situation. I and many members would like to show our solidarity by supporting YOUR work. Please let me know what I can do. Peace Up! |
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Post by BorntoKiln on May 24, 2012 23:51:57 GMT 1
Dude, I recently (5 months ago) bought a grenade from a gallery in York after seeing it in a major exhibition at the V&A...I had no idea Layne Rowe had stolen your artistic ideas. Mate, if I had known, I would never had bought it...(even though the gallery owner is a lovely guy and was struggling with cash flow at the time). Now looking at his work at Londonglassblowing... it is totally different to your ideas...it is so different to his usual work it is not even funny trying to pass your ideas off as his own. You have shown impeccable restraint and gentlemanly conduct in the manner you have dealt with this situation. I and many members would like to show our solidarity by supporting YOUR work. Please let me know what I can do. Peace Up! anbesivam1, many thanks for this post. I was waiting for someone to highlight the fact and notice the complete change of style regarding Layne´s normal output of work. He was producing Granny Art before he met me, fantastic quality Granny Art but none the less. I bought my mum a piece and she loves it. He didn´t even know this scene existed. And as for social commentary, if you knew him you would soon discover that the only thing he really cares about is himself. Thanks for all the support people - Means a lot. There´s some proppa diamonds on here. If you want to support me, bare with me. Mas Grens Muy Pronto. I´m gonna put this issue to bed for now. All the Best!! Jim |
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Post by anbesivam1 on May 25, 2012 0:07:44 GMT 1
Hi Jim,
I look forward to big things in the not too distant future!
Good luck with everything. Your Art Rules ;D
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