jonti
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Post by jonti on Jan 10, 2012 0:54:56 GMT 1
Folks I'm sat here with someone who has had confirmed that his Laugh Now print is a fake. Frikkin sick ain't the word. It was bought on eBay in 2009 through Paypal, he has the sellers name and contact details sent from eBay as the seller is still registered. There is a few grand at stake here, as well as wanting to do one over on the tw@t Do Paypal help out with transactions this old? Can chargeback on visa work? What else can we do? I'm pretty certain that eBay or Paypal will not be interested at all, PayPal protection only lasts for 45 days after the sale, after that you have no cover. I suggest you contact the seller sending proof that the item is a fake and if you get either no or an unfavourable response go to this government web site : www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/web/mcol/welcomeSorry, Thanks for the link |
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Post by gibbin82 on Jan 10, 2012 1:06:10 GMT 1
Yep it seems the registered name for the print number does not match the sellers name. This could be terminal. But our fingers are crossed that there is an explanation. Will try contact the seller this week. I will keep you guys updated if you like? Always good to get info on this process, as I'm sure others will come across similar? It maybe that the name doesn't match because he bought it from the original owner but never got it transfered into his name, so it may not be a fake, but the only way to be sure is to have POW confirm if it is genuine or not. If it isn't legit at least then you will have proof to start a claim and you will also be able to add to the claim any fees that POW charge. |
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Post by Guest on Jan 10, 2012 1:14:25 GMT 1
Just to throw the rat amongst the pigeons!
I bought a 2003 print which I was certain was genuine... took it to POW & I got the same reply - 'it's fake'...&... 'We will destroy it for you'... My stomach turned.
Did a bit more digging and managed to get a back story for the print.... Went back to POW with the info and then after a few more checks, I was told 'it is genuine'.... Phew.
Just goes to show you... This was all pre Pest Control, when there was no charge for authentication, and TBH I think they learnt a lot from that experience as our print was produced pre-POW.
Print was returned and has been on our wall ever since...!
I love a happy ending... I hope yours has one!
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jonti
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Post by jonti on Jan 10, 2012 8:31:36 GMT 1
Yes Speebe! That's the spirit mate thanks!
Fingers crossed
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Post by hubblebubble on Jan 10, 2012 8:44:34 GMT 1
Yep it seems the registered name for the print number does not match the sellers name. This could be terminal. But our fingers are crossed that there is an explanation. Will try contact the seller this week. I will keep you guys updated if you like? Always good to get info on this process, as I'm sure others will come across similar? It maybe that the name doesn't match because he bought it from the original owner but never got it transfered into his name, so it may not be a fake, but the only way to be sure is to have POW confirm if it is genuine or not. If it isn't legit at least then you will have proof to start a claim and you will also be able to add to the claim any fees that POW charge. I recently purchased a Banksy from someone who had not transferred the print into their name. The seller had full provenance, including the name and details of the original purchaser/owner, an email trail outlining the sale from original purchaser to themselves, plus, of course, the COA. One email from me to PC with these details and all was fine and transferred to my name. Lebdel - did your friend have a COA with the purchase? |
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jonti
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Post by jonti on Jan 10, 2012 21:16:40 GMT 1
Yes COA was in hand.
I think something was afoot with sellers / registered names,
but anyway emails went back and forth betwixt buyer and seller (not too forthcoming with anything useful at first), and buyer and Pest Control today.
Turns out buyer's COA obviously matched registered details as the stress-lifting email " please send hi-res image of print number and COA to update you as the current owner of the print" arrived.
Hi-res images were sent
Email reply "The print you have sent an image of is not the work that was authenticated as a legitimate work by Banksy" bring it in for us to check.
=The poor lads stress levels right back up.
So that was tonight's phone call.
Any thoughts guys ?
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Post by Guest on Jan 10, 2012 21:29:12 GMT 1
s**t son! i always thought this hole constant authentication of prints was a bit dodgy!
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Post by Guest on Jan 11, 2012 0:12:11 GMT 1
I think it'll all come good in the end...
If the COA and original buyer have already checked out then I think the print will be prove to be genuine in the end.
Fingers crossed.
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bonsai
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Post by bonsai on Jan 12, 2012 13:11:31 GMT 1
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Post by raveoursouls on Jan 13, 2012 18:42:35 GMT 1
Also a little off topic: I'm planning to organise an exhibition with the worst fake Banksy pieces from ebay. The plan is to exhibit the work and the ebay text together.
Is there anybody who can help me out and/or bought some of these crappy pieces for cheap to have a good laugh?
Plan is to organize it in August this year.
My email adress is: streetartbelgium@gmail.com
Thanks!
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Post by damien123 on Jan 13, 2012 23:36:37 GMT 1
Looks like even artists are buying from that west country prince bloke, dont blame him they are nice bargain, see their feedback on 10/12/11 lol
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Post by Guest on Jan 13, 2012 23:42:19 GMT 1
also seems guy is planning some work with beads
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Post by damien123 on Jan 13, 2012 23:47:39 GMT 1
also seems guy is planning some work with beads limited edition guy denning necklace tba ;D |
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Post by sfinks on Jan 14, 2012 6:04:25 GMT 1
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Post by fingerz on Jan 28, 2012 20:39:39 GMT 1
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Post by jopkop on Jan 28, 2012 20:49:18 GMT 1
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Post by craigf on Jan 28, 2012 20:52:11 GMT 1
They're last five ratings are negative so in think you are either right fingerz or someone is really stupid using this account to sign a high value piece
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Post by lbrabs on Jan 28, 2012 21:17:16 GMT 1
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Post by dappy on Jan 28, 2012 21:31:00 GMT 1
...  I have never seen anyone with a '-1' Feedback score before ... ... x ;D x ...
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Post by blobbydon on Jan 29, 2012 9:54:34 GMT 1
Was looking at that yesterday... -1 is never a good sign
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Post by tommm9 on Jan 29, 2012 10:12:49 GMT 1
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Post by dappy on Jan 29, 2012 12:14:30 GMT 1
... Follow the yellow brick road ... He/She bought this stencil off this chap 'dominb' just before crimbo and then have a look at his other items for sale  www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330649605885 ;D |
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Post by fingerz on Jan 29, 2012 23:15:08 GMT 1
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Post by stanley on Jan 29, 2012 23:20:45 GMT 1
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Post by cnh on Jan 29, 2012 23:27:07 GMT 1
+1  sorry Fingerz I can't give you + or - from my proboards app so you'll have to add one yourself  |
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bernie
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Post by bernie on Feb 1, 2012 19:31:39 GMT 1
just to let people know this guy with the 0.0% feedback is still trying to sell his work on ebay. i seem to be the highest bidder at the mo but after looking at what is on this site i have written to him and ebay and told them where to go . thanks for the insight people.. |
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Post by fingerz on Feb 1, 2012 19:36:36 GMT 1
it might be legit but with that feedback best to be carefull
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bernie
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Post by bernie on Feb 1, 2012 20:05:41 GMT 1
thanks buddy
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tommm9
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Post by tommm9 on Feb 16, 2012 12:25:49 GMT 1
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Post by Guest on Feb 16, 2012 15:48:30 GMT 1
The blu tac face would be my choice if i was forced to buy from him!!!! has some very odd other items on the go! |
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