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Post by Guest on May 25, 2011 20:41:34 GMT 1
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Post by Guest on May 25, 2011 21:43:56 GMT 1
No mention of it actually selling?
But if the rags say so... sorry I'm so miss informed! Bring back the sport now thats a paper with facts... shame.
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Post by skitchy on May 25, 2011 22:18:30 GMT 1
 I heard a while back that a couple of years some guy ripped this out a kebab/newspaper stand by Tottenham court road. Sold to a dealer for 15k who then sold it on at auction in Germany for 200k. Madness! |
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Post by HRE on May 25, 2011 22:22:13 GMT 1
I heard a while back that a couple of years some guy ripped this out a kebab/newspaper stand by Tottenham court road. Sold to a dealer for 15k who then sold it on at auction in Germany for 200k. Madness! This is now in a office in the reception on newman street is in it, you can see it though the window |
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Post by coach on May 25, 2011 22:22:50 GMT 1
I remember that, but my recollection (often flawed) was that the guy paid the vendor a lot less than 15k for it.
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Post by HRE on May 25, 2011 22:25:26 GMT 1
im sure it was more like 2 grand and the guy would replace his trailer for the back panel.
The owner only found out after he went into the bank that was opposite his pitch and his bank manager told him what it was worth. DOH
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Post by skitchy on May 25, 2011 22:36:14 GMT 1
As far as i'm aware they guy that organised to have it removed realised it might be worth a few quid but was stuck with an original banksy and didn't know what to do with it... and flogged it for 15k and then the next owner made a killing on it
I think thats how the story goes
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Post by Guest on May 25, 2011 22:39:53 GMT 1
Yep was £2k the guy was selling scarfs etc on tcr but again that was a mail story....no one ever sells these on, its all PR!
Who would buy?
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Post by skitchy on May 25, 2011 23:11:42 GMT 1
Are/were those two lads forum members?
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Post by Guest on May 25, 2011 23:17:51 GMT 1
skitchy..maybe so... warmgun is def one... lets see his ugly mug lol!
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Post by warmgun on May 25, 2011 23:26:51 GMT 1
skitchy..maybe so... warmgun is def one... lets see his ugly mug lol! f**k all to do with me you daft t**t. |
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Post by Guest on May 25, 2011 23:38:21 GMT 1
Why the obsession with the early street being sold? and the crap that they sold? I would prefer they didn't you?
Something to hide? Smile next week lol
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Post by hubblebubble on May 26, 2011 8:01:12 GMT 1
Thats the problem though TL, once these works make their way into the big wide world with some kind of pissarsed provenance like Vermin then joe average collector / dealer will just reckon it has real prov, not everyone knows about PC and will trust these pissarsed dealers, also now it will have a television programme to plonk on its COA!. Agree. Also it's kind of a risk/reward thing. If you're a dealer with a stash of cash or a line of credit (less likely today I admit) you do the math on the risk/reward and buy appropriately. If something is 'possibly' a Banksy or a Warhol or a Lichenstein or whatever, it's worth the risk to stump up for it as the pot of gold at the end of that particular rainbow can be eye watering. If not, you sell it on at a loss or break even to some other hopeful... Yours, happily mixing metaphors, HB |
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Post by silvermyn on May 26, 2011 12:06:16 GMT 1
That Hawkins is a little hotty! She bought the Fracis Bacon canvas that had the centre cut out paying £48k, if I recall correctly.
It will be interesting to see how much the dealers are prepared to pay for the Croydon piece. A piece of street art by Banksy with no Pest Control should command a whopping zero. However, you never know. At the end of the program in the preview for next week they showed one of the dealers offering £250k but they didn't show whether he was bidding on the Banksy.
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Post by skitchy on May 26, 2011 12:39:28 GMT 1
The thing I dont honestly get with 'buyers' or collectors of street pieces is this...
If I had 200 k to spend like these people I would fire an email straight to pest control and commission a canvas...much better use of money if you ask me.
who wants a brick wall placed in their living room?
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Post by jopkop on May 26, 2011 12:44:02 GMT 1
The thing I dont honestly get with 'buyers' or collectors of street pieces is this... If I had 200 k to spend like these people I would fire an email straight to pest control and commission a canvas...much better use of money if you ask me. who wants a brick wall placed in their living room? I have four  |
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Post by Guest on May 26, 2011 13:04:11 GMT 1
The thing I dont honestly get with 'buyers' or collectors of street pieces is this... If I had 200 k to spend like these people I would fire an email straight to pest control and commission a canvas...much better use of money if you ask me. who wants a brick wall placed in their living room? I have four brought a smile to my day |
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Post by skitchy on May 26, 2011 13:24:27 GMT 1
lol tried wording that so that wouldnt be possible...haha only on.info
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Post by Daniel Silk on May 27, 2011 13:23:02 GMT 1
Its a classic Banksy piece!  One of his best I think. Shame they had the Silky Knob cleaned off  |
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Post by Guest on May 27, 2011 14:26:13 GMT 1
banksy should put somin out saying that any street pieces are valueless cos he put em on the street for a reason for all to see not just for the greedy f**ks who want to make a fortune tarring them out and selling them on
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Post by Daniel Silk on May 27, 2011 14:33:34 GMT 1
banksy should put somin out saying that any street pieces are valueless cos he put em on the street for a reason for all to see not just for the greedy f**ks who want to make a fortune tarring them out and selling them on But thats what street art is about if your doing pieces onto other peoples property then you have no control or rights on what happens to it It might be cleaned off, painted over, cut out and sold, thats the right of the person who owns the wall. |
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Post by rsyok on May 27, 2011 14:33:53 GMT 1
Shame they had the Silky Knob cleaned off !! Gutted Silky dont worry we will all remember your claim to fame  |
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Post by Guest on May 27, 2011 14:41:22 GMT 1
yeh im alright if its guna get painted over cos its not ment to be forever but i think cuting these peices out of the public eye is just geedy
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Post by rowan on May 27, 2011 15:10:59 GMT 1
maumau93 that is the BEST avatar ever!!!! NICE ONE
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Post by Guest on May 27, 2011 16:25:50 GMT 1
banksy should put somin out saying that any street pieces are valueless cos he put em on the street for a reason for all to see not just for the greedy f**ks who want to make a fortune tarring them out and selling them on Banksy set up Pest Control for this reason among others! Didnt he? |
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Post by Daniel Silk on May 27, 2011 16:35:47 GMT 1
banksy should put somin out saying that any street pieces are valueless cos he put em on the street for a reason for all to see not just for the greedy f**ks who want to make a fortune tarring them out and selling them on Banksy set up Pest Control for this reason among others! Didnt he? Surely pest control was set up to protect and help his work gain value, rather than trying to make some of his work valueless? |
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Post by Guest on May 27, 2011 16:46:01 GMT 1
Banksy set up Pest Control for this reason among others! Didnt he? Surely pest control was set up to protect and help his work gain value, rather than trying to make some of his work valueless? Dunno, you might be right, though they don't authenticate his street work which would imply they don't want it ripped off walls and flogged, wouldnt it? |
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Post by alexnh123 on May 27, 2011 17:56:11 GMT 1
Who would buy it off them? the dealers I mean? Nobody with any sense so if they do buy it its worth f**k all without PC cert and they would never do it. Its a vermin cert which means nothing. So if one does offer big money it will be interesting who the buyer is... banksy crew? This could be a stunt like the recent billboard and the New york piece... painted to steal... great pr stunt, maybe? Its all PR people... i disagree that it's worth nowt. i mean if you consider the piece to be authentic, which i don't think anyone is doubting, then you're a hypocrit if you only say it has value with the pest control authentication. Below the radar of pest control and the auction houses etc this should still hold value for many. |
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Post by silvermyn on May 31, 2011 9:59:01 GMT 1
I think this is on tonight...
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Post by Guest on May 31, 2011 10:19:37 GMT 1
I think this is on tonight... yer its tonight... I hope the tool that offered 240k 'quid' for it on the advert buys it and then realizes he mugged himself off |
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