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Flipping Question, by jboy on Jul 4, 2007 22:51:38 GMT 1, Hi guys,
I have been labelled a flipper by a few people recently and i just want to clear up what it all means without getting into any issues with people getting angy...
If I bought a print without the intention of selling it and then 2 months down the line saw another one which you wanted more, but had to sell the first print for cost or slightly above to cover fees such as paypal, customs and postage etc - why would that be a bad thing?
Its like with APPLE ipods. If you buy one, then a new one comes out a week later which is better - you can swap it or get your money back. or any shop in the world for that matter. Why should it be different with art prints?
Surely its the same as swapping a print with someone or getting your money back to buy something else, you get something you like more and both people are happy. Why is this seen as a negative action? Buying a print quickly and then selling it is bad, but surely everyone has flipped at some point to get a print they want, no?
I have done this a few times to buy a new print which i really love, but have been scalded for it when i have done nothing wrong. I'm not taking away anyones prints or 'bagging' - they are completely different things.
Discuss - im interested to hear what your guys opinions are...
J 
Hi guys, I have been labelled a flipper by a few people recently and i just want to clear up what it all means without getting into any issues with people getting angy... If I bought a print without the intention of selling it and then 2 months down the line saw another one which you wanted more, but had to sell the first print for cost or slightly above to cover fees such as paypal, customs and postage etc - why would that be a bad thing? Its like with APPLE ipods. If you buy one, then a new one comes out a week later which is better - you can swap it or get your money back. or any shop in the world for that matter. Why should it be different with art prints? Surely its the same as swapping a print with someone or getting your money back to buy something else, you get something you like more and both people are happy. Why is this seen as a negative action? Buying a print quickly and then selling it is bad, but surely everyone has flipped at some point to get a print they want, no? I have done this a few times to buy a new print which i really love, but have been scalded for it when i have done nothing wrong. I'm not taking away anyones prints or 'bagging' - they are completely different things. Discuss - im interested to hear what your guys opinions are... J |
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Flipping Question, by Montubu7 on Jul 4, 2007 22:57:55 GMT 1, Fella, you may be best just listing on ebay when you wnat to flog something instead of knocking it around the boards first hand promoting it, i think people get peed off when you show of your collection & then a few weeks later somethings gotta give to make room for something new, as its happened a few times i can obs see why people get annoyed.
I do also believe there is a 'Book' on how long till your D*Face wwaf is on the bay.............! 
Just my opinion, at the end of the day dont really matter what anyone else thinks, just stop biting ( espec on wc..)
Fella, you may be best just listing on ebay when you wnat to flog something instead of knocking it around the boards first hand promoting it, i think people get peed off when you show of your collection & then a few weeks later somethings gotta give to make room for something new, as its happened a few times i can obs see why people get annoyed. I do also believe there is a 'Book' on how long till your D*Face wwaf is on the bay.............! Just my opinion, at the end of the day dont really matter what anyone else thinks, just stop biting ( espec on wc..) |
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Flipping Question, by hankpank on Jul 4, 2007 22:58:18 GMT 1, I would say the print has to be in quarantine for about three months before it is ok to sell it.
And you can only sell one print every six months.
Otherwise your a flipper.
This was a joke, but as I typed it it turned serious. Never mind the time mentioned, but people get pissed when you sell a print that the same people missed. But if enough time has elapsed I guess it's ok.
I would say the print has to be in quarantine for about three months before it is ok to sell it.
And you can only sell one print every six months.
Otherwise your a flipper.
This was a joke, but as I typed it it turned serious. Never mind the time mentioned, but people get pissed when you sell a print that the same people missed. But if enough time has elapsed I guess it's ok.
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Flipping Question, by jboy on Jul 4, 2007 23:00:38 GMT 1, Fella, you may be best just listing on ebay when you wnat to flog something instead of knocking it around the boards first hand promoting it, i think people get peed off when you show of your collection & then a few weeks later somethings gotta give to make room for something new, as its happened a few times i can obs see why people get annoyed. I do also believe there is a 'Book' on how long till your D*Face wwaf is on the bay.............! Just my opinion, at the end of the day dont really matter what anyone else thinks, just stop biting ( espec on wc..)
Theres only a certain amount on my walls - i dont own a trendy shoreditch warehouse or anything! Sometimes things will be sold to make space, people do it all the time. Its like selling your furniture or games console to buy a better one.
I can honestly say the d*faces are not for sale - i would not que for for hours in a really angry line to pick one of these up and sell it - some would but i would not. I'm mainly a d*face collector and have never actually sold any of my prints - just small bits like stickers etc.
Fella, you may be best just listing on ebay when you wnat to flog something instead of knocking it around the boards first hand promoting it, i think people get peed off when you show of your collection & then a few weeks later somethings gotta give to make room for something new, as its happened a few times i can obs see why people get annoyed. I do also believe there is a 'Book' on how long till your D*Face wwaf is on the bay.............! Just my opinion, at the end of the day dont really matter what anyone else thinks, just stop biting ( espec on wc..) Theres only a certain amount on my walls - i dont own a trendy shoreditch warehouse or anything! Sometimes things will be sold to make space, people do it all the time. Its like selling your furniture or games console to buy a better one. I can honestly say the d*faces are not for sale - i would not que for for hours in a really angry line to pick one of these up and sell it - some would but i would not. I'm mainly a d*face collector and have never actually sold any of my prints - just small bits like stickers etc. |
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Flipping Question, by jboy on Jul 4, 2007 23:04:49 GMT 1, Don't worry about it mate ;D I'm in the same boat  at times your just forced to sell a piece to pay the bills or to be able to afford to buy something new  I think sometimes people with highly paid jobs that can afford whatever they like just cant understand the difficult situation others can be in
Completely, i work in London, but it does not mean im well paid and its expensive here when the cheapest flat you can get is a 1 bed above a shop in tower hamlets for ยฃ270,000.
Sometimes i need the money depending on the situation, i guess that goes for the majority of people.
Don't worry about it mate ;D I'm in the same boat at times your just forced to sell a piece to pay the bills or to be able to afford to buy something new I think sometimes people with highly paid jobs that can afford whatever they like just cant understand the difficult situation others can be in Completely, i work in London, but it does not mean im well paid and its expensive here when the cheapest flat you can get is a 1 bed above a shop in tower hamlets for ยฃ270,000. Sometimes i need the money depending on the situation, i guess that goes for the majority of people. |
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Flipping Question, by Winter on Jul 4, 2007 23:05:39 GMT 1, HankPank have a respect point. I think there should be an official time 'zone' where it's deemed acceptable to sell. I think 3 months would be a good start. Maybe it should be officiated by a spokesperson from POW! Some would say it's only ok after the artists death. Maybe it would be seen as a motive to murder in some cases.
HankPank have a respect point. I think there should be an official time 'zone' where it's deemed acceptable to sell. I think 3 months would be a good start. Maybe it should be officiated by a spokesperson from POW! Some would say it's only ok after the artists death. Maybe it would be seen as a motive to murder in some cases.
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Flipping Question, by jboy on Jul 4, 2007 23:10:35 GMT 1, HankPank have a respect point. I think there should be an official time 'zone' where it's deemed acceptable to sell. I think 3 months would be a good start. Maybe it should be officiated by a spokesperson from POW! Some would say it's only ok after the artists death. Maybe it would be seen as a motive to murder in some cases.
3 months and by midnight GPT (GRENWICH PRINT TIME)
HankPank have a respect point. I think there should be an official time 'zone' where it's deemed acceptable to sell. I think 3 months would be a good start. Maybe it should be officiated by a spokesperson from POW! Some would say it's only ok after the artists death. Maybe it would be seen as a motive to murder in some cases. 3 months and by midnight GPT (GRENWICH PRINT TIME) |
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Flipping Question, by johnas on Jul 4, 2007 23:11:09 GMT 1, I would say the print has to be in quarantine for about three months before it is ok to sell it. And you can only sell one print every six months. Otherwise your a flipper. This was a joke, but as I typed it it turned serious. Never mind the time mentioned, but people get pissed when you sell a print that the same people missed. But if enough time has elapsed I guess it's ok.
surely its all about the motivation....
a flipper/bagger etc has 1 motivation - money. Preferably your money. they're not interested in the scene as such... they're only interested in the monetary gain/bottom line
if this isn't your motivation, then how can you be considered a flipper
I would say the print has to be in quarantine for about three months before it is ok to sell it. And you can only sell one print every six months. Otherwise your a flipper. This was a joke, but as I typed it it turned serious. Never mind the time mentioned, but people get pissed when you sell a print that the same people missed. But if enough time has elapsed I guess it's ok. surely its all about the motivation.... a flipper/bagger etc has 1 motivation - money. Preferably your money. they're not interested in the scene as such... they're only interested in the monetary gain/bottom line if this isn't your motivation, then how can you be considered a flipper |
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Flipping Question, by dave313perry on Jul 4, 2007 23:13:07 GMT 1, I think it just depends on your situation, fininacial or whatever. I feel there are many people who are out there who buy purely for financial gain, and believe me if you look hard enough into ebay and do your research you can find out who they are!!!!
But me personally feel there are certain things that are annoying....
like buying a print for ยฃ100 and putting it on ebay BIN ยฃ500
however if it is put on ebay a few months later with no reserve starting at 1p then the piece finds its true value, and if someone is willing to pay the winning price then whats the problem! persuming of course you havnt bought 10 prints of a limited edition of 30!!!!! that would be annoying!!!
But on the whole i feel abit of wheeling and dealing is all good! and as a low earner its the only way i can afford to have some of the art that i do have, and surely thats just using my art knowledge to fund my art addiction!!!!
Peace, Dave
I think it just depends on your situation, fininacial or whatever. I feel there are many people who are out there who buy purely for financial gain, and believe me if you look hard enough into ebay and do your research you can find out who they are!!!!
But me personally feel there are certain things that are annoying....
like buying a print for ยฃ100 and putting it on ebay BIN ยฃ500
however if it is put on ebay a few months later with no reserve starting at 1p then the piece finds its true value, and if someone is willing to pay the winning price then whats the problem! persuming of course you havnt bought 10 prints of a limited edition of 30!!!!! that would be annoying!!!
But on the whole i feel abit of wheeling and dealing is all good! and as a low earner its the only way i can afford to have some of the art that i do have, and surely thats just using my art knowledge to fund my art addiction!!!!
Peace, Dave
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Flipping Question, by jboy on Jul 4, 2007 23:14:06 GMT 1, I would say the print has to be in quarantine for about three months before it is ok to sell it. And you can only sell one print every six months. Otherwise your a flipper. This was a joke, but as I typed it it turned serious. Never mind the time mentioned, but people get pissed when you sell a print that the same people missed. But if enough time has elapsed I guess it's ok. surely its all about the motivation.... a flipper/bagger etc has 1 motivation - money. Preferably your money. they're not interested in the scene as such... they're only interested in the monetary gain/bottom line if this isn't your motivation, then how can you be considered a flipper
Like that guy in the line at the stolenspace exhibition last week with 3 girls to get prints for him as well - thats a Bagger, they don't even know anything about art, they just see the money. Man, he was a bastard.
I would say the print has to be in quarantine for about three months before it is ok to sell it. And you can only sell one print every six months. Otherwise your a flipper. This was a joke, but as I typed it it turned serious. Never mind the time mentioned, but people get pissed when you sell a print that the same people missed. But if enough time has elapsed I guess it's ok. surely its all about the motivation.... a flipper/bagger etc has 1 motivation - money. Preferably your money. they're not interested in the scene as such... they're only interested in the monetary gain/bottom line if this isn't your motivation, then how can you be considered a flipper Like that guy in the line at the stolenspace exhibition last week with 3 girls to get prints for him as well - thats a Bagger, they don't even know anything about art, they just see the money. Man, he was a bastard. |
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Flipping Question, by jboy on Jul 4, 2007 23:15:13 GMT 1, I think it just depends on your situation, fininacial or whatever. I feel there are many people who are out there who buy purely for financial gain, and believe me if you look hard enough into ebay and do your research you can find out who they are!!!! But me personally feel there are certain things that are annoying.... like buying a print for ยฃ100 and putting it on ebay BIN ยฃ500 however if it is put on ebay a few months later with no reserve starting at 1p then the piece finds its true value, and if someone is willing to pay the winning price then whats the problem! persuming of course you havnt bought 10 prints of a limited edition of 30!!!!! that would be annoying!!! But on the whole i feel abit of wheeling and dealing is all good! and as a low earner its the only way i can afford to have some of the art that i do have, and surely thats just using my art knowledge to fund my art addiction!!!! Peace, Dave
Snap. well said.
I think it just depends on your situation, fininacial or whatever. I feel there are many people who are out there who buy purely for financial gain, and believe me if you look hard enough into ebay and do your research you can find out who they are!!!! But me personally feel there are certain things that are annoying.... like buying a print for ยฃ100 and putting it on ebay BIN ยฃ500 however if it is put on ebay a few months later with no reserve starting at 1p then the piece finds its true value, and if someone is willing to pay the winning price then whats the problem! persuming of course you havnt bought 10 prints of a limited edition of 30!!!!! that would be annoying!!! But on the whole i feel abit of wheeling and dealing is all good! and as a low earner its the only way i can afford to have some of the art that i do have, and surely thats just using my art knowledge to fund my art addiction!!!! Peace, Dave Snap. well said. |
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Flipping Question, by alderevans2007 on Jul 4, 2007 23:19:18 GMT 1, Surely nobody can say there is anything wrong with buying a print and selling it at cost. You have not denied anybody that print at the original cost.
The problems start when the print is worth quite a bit more straight after they sell out. If you genuinley bought it for the right reasons and cannot keep if for some reason, then I think you are well within your right to sell it for what its worth. But it is hard to tell when somebody bought it with the intention of selling it straight after.
I have my Ian Francis for sale at the moment for what it is worth because something has come up where I absolutley need money. I bought it for the right reasons, but unfortunatley, it has to go. I asmire someone who would sell it at cost, but these are few and far between and I cannot afford to do this.
I aslo have an insect sext toy for sale for about cost only because nobody wants the damn thing. ;D. I went on POW, saw that was one left, edition of 10 and thought:s**t! I can't miss out on this. I knew I could possibly make a bit of money and went for it. I suppose this makes me a 'flipper' to an extent because I was denying someone else from getting it. But if I didn't snap it up, someone else would have and that is never going to change.
Sometimes you have to be a bit selfish to get what you want. All I can say is that I have a genuine passion for collecting art but don't have a limitless supply of cash. I also intend to contribute something to this scene in the way of creating my own artwork sometime in the future.
Surely nobody can say there is anything wrong with buying a print and selling it at cost. You have not denied anybody that print at the original cost.
The problems start when the print is worth quite a bit more straight after they sell out. If you genuinley bought it for the right reasons and cannot keep if for some reason, then I think you are well within your right to sell it for what its worth. But it is hard to tell when somebody bought it with the intention of selling it straight after.
I have my Ian Francis for sale at the moment for what it is worth because something has come up where I absolutley need money. I bought it for the right reasons, but unfortunatley, it has to go. I asmire someone who would sell it at cost, but these are few and far between and I cannot afford to do this.
I aslo have an insect sext toy for sale for about cost only because nobody wants the damn thing. ;D. I went on POW, saw that was one left, edition of 10 and thought:s**t! I can't miss out on this. I knew I could possibly make a bit of money and went for it. I suppose this makes me a 'flipper' to an extent because I was denying someone else from getting it. But if I didn't snap it up, someone else would have and that is never going to change.
Sometimes you have to be a bit selfish to get what you want. All I can say is that I have a genuine passion for collecting art but don't have a limitless supply of cash. I also intend to contribute something to this scene in the way of creating my own artwork sometime in the future.
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Flipping Question, by dave313perry on Jul 4, 2007 23:21:57 GMT 1, Il give you another scenario - i got myself a Banksy Sepia! YIPEEE! absolutely delighted. no intentions in selling, would have possibly considered swapping.
Noticed how cheap USA sepia's were selling for, took out a loan and got one for 2300 from a forum meber who bought 5 morons prints - jammy americans!!! (he sold them all at really resonable prices through ebay)
I now own two Sepia's and plan to sell one in the near future probably on ebay, although i would prefer to trade on here but not many people like to trade their prized possesions!!
So i will probably Sell my Sepia on ebay and either buy a nice frame for my other one, buy a couple of unsigned, Happy choppers and Queen Vic would be nice!!!! or put it in my bank!!!!
either way i feel i just took advantage and a risk of importing from america and luckily it paid off. It was on ebay on a reserve free auction so i paid the going rate, and only my judgment made me a profit!!!! and the chance to purchase other prints
Probably be docked for this but i think alot of people did similar on here and saved a few pennies from the usa, and took a risk! just something to ponder!!
Dave
Il give you another scenario - i got myself a Banksy Sepia! YIPEEE! absolutely delighted. no intentions in selling, would have possibly considered swapping.
Noticed how cheap USA sepia's were selling for, took out a loan and got one for 2300 from a forum meber who bought 5 morons prints - jammy americans!!! (he sold them all at really resonable prices through ebay)
I now own two Sepia's and plan to sell one in the near future probably on ebay, although i would prefer to trade on here but not many people like to trade their prized possesions!!
So i will probably Sell my Sepia on ebay and either buy a nice frame for my other one, buy a couple of unsigned, Happy choppers and Queen Vic would be nice!!!! or put it in my bank!!!!
either way i feel i just took advantage and a risk of importing from america and luckily it paid off. It was on ebay on a reserve free auction so i paid the going rate, and only my judgment made me a profit!!!! and the chance to purchase other prints
Probably be docked for this but i think alot of people did similar on here and saved a few pennies from the usa, and took a risk! just something to ponder!!
Dave
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Flipping Question, by carlito on Jul 4, 2007 23:25:20 GMT 1, if u buy specifically to sell that's when you become a flipper, if u sell to fund further purchases thats understandable, how much time that has elapsed is niether here nor there altho obviosuly the quicker the turn around the more likely you are to look like a flipper. If you don't need to ever sell to continue buying then lucky you!
if u buy specifically to sell that's when you become a flipper, if u sell to fund further purchases thats understandable, how much time that has elapsed is niether here nor there altho obviosuly the quicker the turn around the more likely you are to look like a flipper. If you don't need to ever sell to continue buying then lucky you!
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Flipping Question, by dave313perry on Jul 4, 2007 23:27:28 GMT 1, wise words as allways carlito, made alot more sense than my jibber jabber!!!!!
im off to bed! respect stands at 27 lets see how we go over night after my round-a-bout defending of flippers'ish!!!!!
Dave
wise words as allways carlito, made alot more sense than my jibber jabber!!!!!
im off to bed! respect stands at 27 lets see how we go over night after my round-a-bout defending of flippers'ish!!!!!
Dave
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Flipping Question, by jboy on Jul 4, 2007 23:27:31 GMT 1, if u buy specifically to sell that's when you become a flipper, if u sell to fund further purchases thats understandable, how much time that has elapsed is niether here nor there altho obviosuly the quicker the turn around the more likely you are to look like a flipper. If you don't need to ever sell to continue buying then lucky you!
Thats a bagger surely - if you buy specifially to sell.
A flipper is when you sell to fund other purchases.
if u buy specifically to sell that's when you become a flipper, if u sell to fund further purchases thats understandable, how much time that has elapsed is niether here nor there altho obviosuly the quicker the turn around the more likely you are to look like a flipper. If you don't need to ever sell to continue buying then lucky you! Thats a bagger surely - if you buy specifially to sell. A flipper is when you sell to fund other purchases. |
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Flipping Question, by carlito on Jul 4, 2007 23:28:06 GMT 1, well done with your purchases Dave ... wellllllllllllllllllllll jealous..
lol flipper / bagger all the same to me j-boy
read what i said again j-boy, if u sell to fund further purchases its understandable
well done with your purchases Dave ... wellllllllllllllllllllll jealous..
lol flipper / bagger all the same to me j-boy
read what i said again j-boy, if u sell to fund further purchases its understandable
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Flipping Question, by johnas on Jul 4, 2007 23:29:14 GMT 1, if u buy specifically to sell that's when you become a flipper, if u sell to fund further purchases thats understandable, how much time that has elapsed is niether here nor there altho obviosuly the quicker the turn around the more likely you are to look like a flipper. If you don't need to ever sell to continue buying then lucky you!
exact-a-mundo!
if u buy specifically to sell that's when you become a flipper, if u sell to fund further purchases thats understandable, how much time that has elapsed is niether here nor there altho obviosuly the quicker the turn around the more likely you are to look like a flipper. If you don't need to ever sell to continue buying then lucky you! exact-a-mundo! |
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Flipping Question, by alderevans2007 on Jul 4, 2007 23:29:38 GMT 1, What about if you buy to make an instant profit, which will be spend to expand your person collection? Kinda like making your way up the art ladder.
As oppose to buying to make a profit that will then be spend a Louis Vuitton bag or something.
What about if you buy to make an instant profit, which will be spend to expand your person collection? Kinda like making your way up the art ladder.
As oppose to buying to make a profit that will then be spend a Louis Vuitton bag or something.
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Flipping Question, by jboy on Jul 4, 2007 23:31:38 GMT 1, well done with your purchases Dave ... wellllllllllllllllllllll jealous.. lol flipper / bagger all the same to me j-boy
But a flipper still has an interest in the art and will sell to buy something else.
A bagger will sell at dface cnd at ยฃ475 after he bought it for ยฃ150 an hour earlier and then goes and buys an xbox 360 with it for instance. thats a bagger. Money making.
well done with your purchases Dave ... wellllllllllllllllllllll jealous.. lol flipper / bagger all the same to me j-boy But a flipper still has an interest in the art and will sell to buy something else. A bagger will sell at dface cnd at ยฃ475 after he bought it for ยฃ150 an hour earlier and then goes and buys an xbox 360 with it for instance. thats a bagger. Money making. |
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Flipping Question, by dave313perry on Jul 4, 2007 23:32:05 GMT 1, cheers carlito, just seemed a sanp and i took a risk to get up the art ladder!!! great convo JBOY i look forward to reading the following when i get up!!!!!
cheers people, Dave
cheers carlito, just seemed a sanp and i took a risk to get up the art ladder!!! great convo JBOY i look forward to reading the following when i get up!!!!!
cheers people, Dave
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Flipping Question, by jboy on Jul 4, 2007 23:32:21 GMT 1, What about if you buy to make an instant profit, which will be spend to expand your person collection? Kinda like making your way up the art ladder. As oppose to buying to make a profit that will then be spend a Louis Vuitton bag or something.
Hehe, wish i had refreshed, you said exactly the same thing!
The bag has more class though. 
J
What about if you buy to make an instant profit, which will be spend to expand your person collection? Kinda like making your way up the art ladder. As oppose to buying to make a profit that will then be spend a Louis Vuitton bag or something. Hehe, wish i had refreshed, you said exactly the same thing! The bag has more class though. J |
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Flipping Question, by alderevans2007 on Jul 4, 2007 23:33:26 GMT 1, lol.
lol.
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Flipping Question, by discoduster on Jul 4, 2007 23:33:48 GMT 1, if u buy specifically to sell that's when you become a flipper, if u sell to fund further purchases thats understandable, how much time that has elapsed is niether here nor there altho obviosuly the quicker the turn around the more likely you are to look like a flipper. If you don't need to ever sell to continue buying then lucky you!
But then if you were selling, you'd letting them go to someone who thought they deserved to go on the wall not under the bed.
BLOODY PORTFOLIO COLLECTORS ARE JUST AS BAD AS BAGGERS!
if u buy specifically to sell that's when you become a flipper, if u sell to fund further purchases thats understandable, how much time that has elapsed is niether here nor there altho obviosuly the quicker the turn around the more likely you are to look like a flipper. If you don't need to ever sell to continue buying then lucky you! But then if you were selling, you'd letting them go to someone who thought they deserved to go on the wall not under the bed. BLOODY PORTFOLIO COLLECTORS ARE JUST AS BAD AS BAGGERS! |
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Flipping Question, by jboy on Jul 4, 2007 23:37:07 GMT 1, if u buy specifically to sell that's when you become a flipper, if u sell to fund further purchases thats understandable, how much time that has elapsed is niether here nor there altho obviosuly the quicker the turn around the more likely you are to look like a flipper. If you don't need to ever sell to continue buying then lucky you! But then if you were selling, you'd letting them go to someone who thought they deserved to go on the wall not under the bed. BLOODY PORTFOLIO COLLECTORS ARE JUST AS BAD AS BAGGERS!
Glad you said it 
At least they are collectors - its a hobby afterall. Anyone thats in it for the money should be aware the prices could drop anyday - and would you still keep it if it was worth only a few quid. People that actually frame stuff for the wall as part of the decoration - thats dedication as they have gone to the expense of getting them framed as well. These can cost more than the print sometimes, so anyone that does that gets my respect.
J
if u buy specifically to sell that's when you become a flipper, if u sell to fund further purchases thats understandable, how much time that has elapsed is niether here nor there altho obviosuly the quicker the turn around the more likely you are to look like a flipper. If you don't need to ever sell to continue buying then lucky you! But then if you were selling, you'd letting them go to someone who thought they deserved to go on the wall not under the bed. BLOODY PORTFOLIO COLLECTORS ARE JUST AS BAD AS BAGGERS! Glad you said it At least they are collectors - its a hobby afterall. Anyone thats in it for the money should be aware the prices could drop anyday - and would you still keep it if it was worth only a few quid. People that actually frame stuff for the wall as part of the decoration - thats dedication as they have gone to the expense of getting them framed as well. These can cost more than the print sometimes, so anyone that does that gets my respect. J |
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Flipping Question, by bored with screen names on Jul 4, 2007 23:38:56 GMT 1, The only time I recall having issue with something I saw you selling was with the Copyright Exhibit piece that you bought, only to have your roommate say they didn't like it (I believe that was the story). Anyway, that seemed like a perfect time to just sell the piece back for cost, but instead (again, this is if I recall this correctly), you inflated the price and rejected offers for cost even though you'd only had it for a week or so.
Ah, here it is banksyforum.proboards82.com/index.cgi?board=ebaychat&action=display&thread=1180141169&page=1
Anyway, that right there I would consider a flip. If you own something for several months or years and need to finance another piece or decide to go another direction with your collecting, that's not.
Added: I did notice that you ended up selling it on ebay for near cost as a buy it now, so good show on that
The only time I recall having issue with something I saw you selling was with the Copyright Exhibit piece that you bought, only to have your roommate say they didn't like it (I believe that was the story). Anyway, that seemed like a perfect time to just sell the piece back for cost, but instead (again, this is if I recall this correctly), you inflated the price and rejected offers for cost even though you'd only had it for a week or so. Ah, here it is banksyforum.proboards82.com/index.cgi?board=ebaychat&action=display&thread=1180141169&page=1Anyway, that right there I would consider a flip. If you own something for several months or years and need to finance another piece or decide to go another direction with your collecting, that's not. Added: I did notice that you ended up selling it on ebay for near cost as a buy it now, so good show on that |
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Flipping Question, by carlito on Jul 4, 2007 23:42:22 GMT 1, personally i like my art on the walls so i can appreciate it everyday, but u can't diss ppl for keeping it in portfolio's if thats what they llike, thats what they like. recently i saw an amazing banksy collection, i mean woth serious amounts of $$$ and he kept it all in drawers in pristine condition and this guy wasn't about to sell any of it
personally i like my art on the walls so i can appreciate it everyday, but u can't diss ppl for keeping it in portfolio's if thats what they llike, thats what they like. recently i saw an amazing banksy collection, i mean woth serious amounts of $$$ and he kept it all in drawers in pristine condition and this guy wasn't about to sell any of it
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Flipping Question, by discoduster on Jul 4, 2007 23:42:46 GMT 1, But then if you were selling, you'd letting them go to someone who thought they deserved to go on the wall not under the bed. BLOODY PORTFOLIO COLLECTORS ARE JUST AS BAD AS BAGGERS! Glad you said it At least they are collectors - its a hobby afterall. Anyone thats in it for the money should be aware the prices could drop anyday - and would you still keep it if it was worth only a few quid. People that actually frame stuff for the wall as part of the decoration - thats dedication as they have gone to the expense of getting them framed as well. These can cost more than the print sometimes, so anyone that does that gets my respect. J
I'd love it if the ass fell out of the market. 
JBoy if i could give the respect points i'd fire one your way but im not allowed...............(sighs) Don't ask 
But then if you were selling, you'd letting them go to someone who thought they deserved to go on the wall not under the bed. BLOODY PORTFOLIO COLLECTORS ARE JUST AS BAD AS BAGGERS! Glad you said it At least they are collectors - its a hobby afterall. Anyone thats in it for the money should be aware the prices could drop anyday - and would you still keep it if it was worth only a few quid. People that actually frame stuff for the wall as part of the decoration - thats dedication as they have gone to the expense of getting them framed as well. These can cost more than the print sometimes, so anyone that does that gets my respect. J I'd love it if the ass fell out of the market. JBoy if i could give the respect points i'd fire one your way but im not allowed...............(sighs) Don't ask |
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at times your just forced to sell a piece to pay the bills or to be able to afford to buy something new 
I think sometimes people with highly paid jobs that can afford whatever they like just cant understand the difficult situation others can be in 
