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Post by bullet on Dec 30, 2010 23:02:00 GMT 1
It is not silly money to those buying them up... Galleries mainly. Low editions...just asking for it really It is stupid money. Nice print but not £3.5K nice, anyone paying that is just buying into the hype. For that money you can buy some sweet originals but some great artists. Not so sure it is personal buyers buying into hype, its businesses and investors |
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Post by goose on Dec 30, 2010 23:03:54 GMT 1
It is stupid money. Nice print but not £3.5K nice, anyone paying that is just buying into the hype. For that money you can buy some sweet originals but some great artists. Not so sure it is personal buyers buying into hype, its businesses and investors £450 for one is a good investment - £3.5K isn't. |
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Post by colinfishwick on Dec 30, 2010 23:04:48 GMT 1
Not so sure it is personal buyers buying into hype, its businesses and investors i think you might be right and the worry for the small man is that these t**ts can manipulate the market to suit their own ends far easier than we can. don't be fooled is all i'd say......... |
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Post by bullet on Dec 30, 2010 23:05:18 GMT 1
Not so sure it is personal buyers buying into hype, its businesses and investors £450 for one is a good investment - £3.5K isn't. Sorry, in the long term it is. Look at warhol stuff. Serious collectors do not buy from ebay, they pay a premium for an establishment. Look at art republic for instance. The galleries do the dirty and pass them on for a premium of 2-3k. Not bad for a days work You will be surprised at how many 'individuals' on here are actually galleries. Something tells me that £4k one was for a start.. Why the rush... |
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Post by hlarmy on Dec 30, 2010 23:24:33 GMT 1
£450 for one is a good investment - £3.5K isn't. Sorry, in the long term it is. Look at warhol stuff. Are you suggesting in the long term Banksy will be on par with Warhol? |
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Post by bullet on Dec 30, 2010 23:28:38 GMT 1
Sorry, in the long term it is. Look at warhol stuff. Are you suggesting in the long term Banksy will be on par with Warhol? indeed. ask that same question in 30 years. |
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Post by Guest on Dec 30, 2010 23:29:54 GMT 1
There have been 27 completed sales via ebay to date these break down into
Qj grey-2
Lemon-5
Purple-5
Lt orange-1
Magenta-1
Dk orange-1
Kahki-1
Slate-1
Pink-3
Grey-7
and there are currently 10 on there for sale at present.
updated 02/01/11
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Post by hlarmy on Dec 30, 2010 23:30:56 GMT 1
Are you suggesting in the long term Banksy will be on par with Warhol? indeed. ask that same question in 30 years. What do you base that on? I'm not stirring, just curious as to why you think that? |
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Post by colinfishwick on Dec 30, 2010 23:30:56 GMT 1
Sorry, in the long term it is. Look at warhol stuff. Are you suggesting in the long term Banksy will be on par with Warhol? i'd say so, unless a Brilo Box type scandal affects Banksy...... either that or he lives to 120.....  |
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Post by hlarmy on Dec 30, 2010 23:33:25 GMT 1
Are you suggesting in the long term Banksy will be on par with Warhol? i'd say so, unless a Brilo Box type scandal affects Banksy...... What does that mean CFW?  |
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Post by Guest on Dec 30, 2010 23:33:38 GMT 1
Sorry, in the long term it is. Look at warhol stuff. Are you suggesting in the long term Banksy will be on par with Warhol? Without a doubt. |
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Post by bullet on Dec 30, 2010 23:34:35 GMT 1
indeed. ask that same question in 30 years. What do you base that on? I'm not stirring, just curious as to why you think that? when was the last person to be collected like this and to be collected by serious investors? or even this sought after... thats why. It is not a fad, its been a pretty long fad if it is. |
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Post by colinfishwick on Dec 30, 2010 23:35:09 GMT 1
indeed. ask that same question in 30 years. What do you base that on? I'm not stirring, just curious as to why you think that? IMHO Banksy gets the public, by and large - and the public get Banksy. it really is that black and white for me, forget the art markets etc Banksy has the will of the people on his side and manipulation aside there will always be demand for a piece of him. |
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Post by colinfishwick on Dec 30, 2010 23:37:36 GMT 1
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Post by hlarmy on Dec 30, 2010 23:39:56 GMT 1
I would tend to agree Freerange, but for him to become the next Warhol, he will need to be collected by others than the likes of me and you (no offense), in other words, the big boys (collectors, galleries, museums etc) will need to start buying into Banksy. That hasn't happened yet, so why should they in the future? |
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Post by bullet on Dec 30, 2010 23:42:19 GMT 1
I would tend to agree Freerange, but for him to become the next Warhol, he will need to be collected by others than the likes of me and you (no offense), in other words, the big boys (collectors, galleries, museums etc) will need to start buying into Banksy. That hasn't happened yet, so why should they in the future? Galleries were not interested when warhol was doing his stuff, galleries are sniffing about right now with banksy. where does it go from here? what other artists at the moment get paid a (debatable) £1m for a commission? |
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Post by colinfishwick on Dec 30, 2010 23:44:50 GMT 1
I would tend to agree Freerange, but for him to become the next Warhol, he will need to be collected by others than the likes of me and you (no offense), in other words, the big boys (collectors, galleries, museums etc) will need to start buying into Banksy. That hasn't happened yet, so why should they in the future? it has, both here and in the US. museums will pay more attention later in life or after Banksy has passed, either way he is the definitive figure in a given period of time - not solely but largely attributed for the mass exposure of a niche genre, this alone means when the history books are written in the future Banksy will be the defining figure of the early part of the millennium, no doubt. |
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Post by cnh on Dec 30, 2010 23:47:02 GMT 1
There have been 23 completed sales via ebay to date these break down into Qj grey-2 Lemon-5 Purple-3 Dk orange-1 Kahki-1 Slate-1 Pink-3 Grey-7 and there are currently 12 on there for sale at present. Nice work id been trying to keep tabs but this is spot on I still don't think some are real sales though! |
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Post by hlarmy on Dec 30, 2010 23:51:36 GMT 1
Cheers CFW, a good read, although I'm not sure a scandal such as this would have the impact of ruining his career... Good to have a sensible mini-debate FR and CFW re. Banksy v Warhol. I take what you say but the simple fact is that the big boys do not share that opinion, as if they did, we wouldn't still be buying signed prints for £2k, plus we wouldn't be seeing originals not selling at auction, as we have in the past year. I do agree that out of all the artists from this scene, Banksy is the one who has the potential to make it in the long term, but there is some way to go before it is goes from a possibility to a certainly, as you two are suggesting |
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Post by warmgun on Dec 31, 2010 0:02:58 GMT 1
There have been 23 completed sales via ebay to date these break down into Qj grey-2 Lemon-5 Purple-3 Dk orange-1 Kahki-1 Slate-1 Pink-3 Grey-7 and there are currently 12 on there for sale at present. you missed a turquoise one, a soft yellow and a light orange.  |
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Post by Guest on Dec 31, 2010 0:08:37 GMT 1
There have been 23 completed sales via ebay to date these break down into Qj grey-2 Lemon-5 Purple-3 Dk orange-1 Kahki-1 Slate-1 Pink-3 Grey-7 and there are currently 12 on there for sale at present. you missed a turquoise one and a light orange. I have no record of either of those being completed.. |
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Post by warmgun on Dec 31, 2010 0:10:07 GMT 1
you missed a turquoise one and a light orange. I have no record of either of those being completed.. Better update your records then. They sold on ebay. |
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Post by Guest on Dec 31, 2010 0:27:25 GMT 1
I have no record of either of those being completed.. Better update your records then. They sold on ebay. I will have a look and update, only been concentrating on the grey's really this week 11% of which were sold or up for sale. ball park figure for an edition of 100 is approx 3k to date |
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Post by warmgun on Dec 31, 2010 0:29:27 GMT 1
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Post by coach on Dec 31, 2010 0:34:35 GMT 1
Oh please, can we stop talking about the value of cyw now?
For those that have got one, fantastic, chuffed for you, but unless you plan to sell it, it doesnt matter. For those that want to buy one, just wait a while, prices will settle (or if you thionk they wont, buy now). But the scrutiny is now getting rediculous imo.
Good luck everyone, and happy new year.
c
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Post by Guest on Dec 31, 2010 0:42:07 GMT 1
Oh please, can we stop talking about the value of cyw now? For those that have got one, fantastic, chuffed for you, but unless you plan to sell it, it doesnt matter. For those that want to buy one, just wait a while, prices will settle (or if you thionk they wont, buy now). But the scrutiny is now getting rediculous imo. Good luck everyone, and happy new year. c [glow=red,2,300] ^^^^What he said^^^^^^[/glow] |
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Post by senorflippyflop on Dec 31, 2010 0:51:30 GMT 1
this is just the first wave. wait till the next one comes when peepz in the states get theirs.
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Post by Urban Portrait Commissions on Jan 1, 2011 15:15:33 GMT 1
Anyone know how many 'Choose your weapon prints' were released in total?.
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Post by warmgun on Jan 1, 2011 15:18:19 GMT 1
17 lots of 25
a run of 58
and a run of 100
(I think)
that's 583!
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Post by rottenredrooster on Jan 1, 2011 15:19:39 GMT 1
Anyone know how many 'Choose your weapon prints' were released in total?. 19 editions. 17x 25 1 x 58 1x 100 |
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