HRE
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Post by HRE on Dec 22, 2010 14:43:02 GMT 1
Really? I can't...it's an ok print but £650+ English pounds? Do people think it's hand finished? No it's idiots trying to keep up with the Joneses, it's a great looking print for £200, but at £650 I can think of a lot other "nicer" art to have at that price... Well said i think that its just getting a little over the top. Having said that if you must own it then this is the market price for now.
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Post by pinballwizard on Dec 22, 2010 20:14:18 GMT 1
Black and white just sold for 325£!!!
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Post by coach on Dec 22, 2010 20:21:31 GMT 1
Black and white just sold for 325£!!! Unsigned?? Blimey.
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Post by alison03 on Dec 22, 2010 20:59:13 GMT 1
wow
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Post by lifeonwalls on Dec 22, 2010 21:12:24 GMT 1
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Post by lighterboy on Dec 22, 2010 21:52:20 GMT 1
I can't believe the limited edition posters are priced at £200, bet the colour LTF sells for near 1k.
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Post by gibbin82 on Dec 22, 2010 22:00:03 GMT 1
Much as I like Drans work this is getting really crazy now, £325 for the b&w print and as predicted earlier in this thread the 20 euro Edition Populaire poster/prints were bought up and now being offered on eBay for a £200. I really hope the seller of the Edition Populaire poster/prints really gets his fingers burnt on this one and nobody is crazy enough to buy them. While it is good to see an artist that I admire gain recognition and my prints go up in value, the flip side is that next time there are prints released, I and many others will now not stand a chance of getting in before the flippers. I am also still bemused that the Chalks are still available (22 of them) obviously POW did not do such a good job in "hypeing" these  . Anyone who is interested in a chalks print pm me and I can send you pictures of the remaining prints.
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Post by pinballwizard on Dec 22, 2010 22:05:39 GMT 1
Gibbin, you got mail! I will some day get learning to fly!
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Post by happyshopper on Dec 22, 2010 23:18:32 GMT 1
Things go up and down. Dran is the new artist of the moment. Maybe it will last if his work continues with more hits than misses. Paul Insect used to be the same, but popularity has dropped a fair amount recently... I think because his originals were over priced and didn't sell well.
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Post by Guest on Dec 22, 2010 23:40:18 GMT 1
Things go up and down. Dran is the new artist of the moment. Maybe it will last if his work continues with more hits than misses. Paul Insect used to be the same, but popularity has dropped a fair amount recently... I think because his originals were over priced and didn't sell well. Didn't Saachi buy his entire show, and thats what kicked him off?
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Post by Guest on Dec 22, 2010 23:44:09 GMT 1
Things go up and down. Dran is the new artist of the moment. Maybe it will last if his work continues with more hits than misses. Paul Insect used to be the same, but popularity has dropped a fair amount recently... I think because his originals were over priced and didn't sell well. Didn't Saachi buy his entire show, and thats what kicked him off? Hirst did... He's not really on the same level as Saatchi.
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Post by Guest on Dec 22, 2010 23:49:08 GMT 1
Things go up and down. Dran is the new artist of the moment. Maybe it will last if his work continues with more hits than misses. Paul Insect used to be the same, but popularity has dropped a fair amount recently... I think because his originals were over priced and didn't sell well. Didn't Saachi buy his entire show, and thats what kicked him off? That was supposedly Hirst
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swan
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Post by swan on Dec 22, 2010 23:50:03 GMT 1
There is a b&w on the bay for £325!...wtf? *cough* *splutter* *choking on coffee* Somebody pass a can of oxygen, I think I'm going to faint...
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Post by Guest on Dec 22, 2010 23:52:05 GMT 1
Didn't Saachi buy his entire show, and thats what kicked him off? Hirst did... He's not really on the same level as Saatchi. oops, you're right, and you even got the spelling correct 
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Post by otto71 on Dec 23, 2010 0:01:33 GMT 1
A good example would also be A. Neate. He exploded around the time I joined the forum. You guys were quite smitten! Don't really hear much talk of him around these parts anymore. I also noticed his prints are not fetching what they used to. BTW-His new show pieces look brilliant! The opposite would be Parla. You guys were also quite smitten with Parla. At first I wasn't into his work. I thought you were all caught up in the Hype Machine. A year later and I find his work to be rather amazing. Parla's works are going up in price. ---- We shall see where Dran stands in a years time. IMO- I think he will gain momentum. His works appeal to a larger audience than the 2 above listed artist. Which gives him a greater chance of survival.
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Post by happyshopper on Dec 23, 2010 0:11:57 GMT 1
Didn't Saachi buy his entire show, and thats what kicked him off? Hirst did... He's not really on the same level as Saatchi. Yep. Apparently Hirst bought all the pieces from his first show. I think only a few pieces sold from the more recent one
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Post by lighterboy on Dec 23, 2010 0:24:46 GMT 1
Time will tell! Although the vibe around the place both in the queue and after signing suggests he already has a small but loyal following. He has shown both humour in his M&S show and street work as well as previous prints and a tenderness in LTF which translates after meeting him in person. I for one think POW's latest golden boy could be around to stay, whether he could become a legend remains to be seen. I will watch with interest and the strangest thing of all is if I had managed to get a grey CYW I would probably have missed out on Dran simply due to the excitement.
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Post by lighterboy on Dec 23, 2010 0:26:22 GMT 1
Has anyone received their exhibition print yet or any idea when they may of been posted?
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Post by gibbin82 on Dec 23, 2010 1:07:58 GMT 1
I also think that Dran will be around to stay, looking past the comic book cartoon type work there was a lot of depth and variety to his other work, added to that is a very skilled artist with an eye for detail. He is also very prolific, the amount of material to see at the Marks and Stencils exhibition was very impressive, I first viewed it on the Friday and then returned the next day for the signing, I was then quite shocked to see how young Dran actually is, although the time he spent sketching in everybody's books suggests this guy is a workaholic, who lives to draw and loves it. The only thing I can see that may go against him is that there could be a danger he could be too productive and if he releases to much to quickly it may not be as beneficial to him as letting people get eager for the next release. I think that three prints in such a short time would normally be a bit much (chalks, Exhibit and LTF) but as LTF is the one that has captured the imagination, it probably would not have worked any other way. Also to me it is quite significant that the demand for each of the prints has increased as the works have been released (chalks still available, Exhibit sold out but not lots of people so desperate for it that it is rapidly pushing the price up and LTF going through the roof), also the method of selling and pricing has probably had a lot to do with it, as there is nothing like seeing a big queue of people, to make others think this is something very special and in this case they were suffering extreme weather conditions at the same time. Also the pricing has made LTF reasonably accessible to genuine art lovers who probably couldn't justify the expense of a chalks and therefore brought the print into the hands of folk who will be passionate about the work and discuss it on forums such as this one, rather than buying it from a gallery and then quietly hanging it up and admiring it only themselves.
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Post by lighterboy on Dec 23, 2010 1:21:14 GMT 1
Well said! I think POW staff were surprised how many braved the snow but the momentum had been building, with regards to the chalks, if you missed the opening night and the best pieces scream, girl characters etc like I did due to the snow then you may of felt you were getting a lesser print for the same money. That said I would still of love one but now periously over budget. The framing was stunning especially the White. If only for a half price sale offer for Drans remaining chalks!
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Post by gibbin82 on Dec 23, 2010 1:41:20 GMT 1
with regards to the chalks, if you missed the opening night and the best pieces scream, girl characters etc like I did due to the snow then you may of felt you were getting a lesser print for the same money. The little girl with the flower, the hole in the wall to a very colourful scene and the scream were to me the real stand out pieces in the Chalks exhibition, they were the first I was drawn to and enquired about, before I was told the little red dots signified they were sold. While there I spent so much time deciding with the help of my misses which to have from the remaining pictures that I didn't think about taking any photos. So has anyone got a picture of the scream chalks, I would really like to see it if you have.
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Post by lighterboy on Dec 23, 2010 4:12:42 GMT 1
The bookmark that has been re-listed has hit £82, where will it all end. I blame that Banksy character .
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Post by caddyshack on Dec 23, 2010 9:43:29 GMT 1
There is a b&w on the bay for £325!...wtf? *cough* *splutter* *choking on coffee* Somebody pass a can of oxygen, I think I'm going to faint... It sold for £325 too...a good mark-up on a £70 print !!! Some people just have too much money.
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Post by eschiff on Dec 23, 2010 16:18:45 GMT 1
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Post by gentlemental on Dec 23, 2010 18:42:49 GMT 1
wow. hype in motion - rockets like a rising star - here's my humble take:
Dran makes os gemeos-esque aesthetics with banksy-ish wit. but is currently not quite there yet on both fronts.
but close. frighteningly close.
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Post by Guest on Dec 23, 2010 19:02:26 GMT 1
All POW hype IMO. Two months ago dran showed in Barcelona and half the work remained unsold, with originall works from starting at £100 +. Fast forward 2 months and the remaining work has its price bumped by 40% and everyone cant get enough of it and are hailing Dran as the next star.
I presume that everyone here thats such huge fans of his work and are now paying £300 + for u/s print, new about the previous show and the cheap works such a short time ago ?
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Post by otto71 on Dec 23, 2010 19:14:21 GMT 1
....and a STAR is born.
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Post by spirit on Dec 23, 2010 19:21:27 GMT 1
I've never yet seen an artist that has not crashed and burned after this much hype this quickly.
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Post by rsj on Dec 23, 2010 19:46:06 GMT 1
I think the success of "Learning to Fly" is really about the fact that people really looked and appreciated that particular image, and went after the prints. I too was tempted by it, as it's a little "cute" image.
Of course, with the success of "Learning to Fly", some people are taking the opportunity to invest in his other pieces and hype him up. However, I don't think him as an artist overall is rated as highly as this one print. The fact that there are still plenty of other unsold works around explained this.
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HRE
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Post by HRE on Dec 23, 2010 20:17:06 GMT 1
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