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Post by Black Book Gallery on Dec 10, 2010 2:49:47 GMT 1
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Post by warmgun on Dec 10, 2010 15:25:26 GMT 1
Another bloody hello kitty print?
What the hell is going on with this brand?
Can't be many artists left who haven't sold out to the brand in the last few months.
Makes me retch.
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Post by Guest on Dec 10, 2010 15:30:29 GMT 1
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Post by warmgun on Dec 10, 2010 15:36:49 GMT 1
That's all well and good but they should sod off and stop dangling wads of cash in front of street artists faces.....afterall, what on Earth have plastic handbags etc got to do with street/urban art?
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Post by Guest on Dec 10, 2010 15:39:07 GMT 1
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Post by warmgun on Dec 10, 2010 15:41:25 GMT 1
What's your point?
Are you OK with the fact that at least three artists have released hello kitty prints in the last 5 weeks or so?
Does that not trouble you?
Have street art and advertising merged into one entity now?
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Post by Guest on Dec 10, 2010 15:48:18 GMT 1
What's your point? Are you OK with the fact that at least three artists have released hello kitty prints in the last 5 weeks or so? Does that not trouble you? if it were mandatory that I purchase them - it would trouble me - but since I don't - not troubled at all.... |
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Post by faute on Dec 10, 2010 15:54:55 GMT 1
What's your point? Are you OK with the fact that at least three artists have released hello kitty prints in the last 5 weeks or so? Does that not trouble you? Have street art and advertising merged into one entity now? This Hello Kitty thing is actually organised by a member of the curatorial committee of the show at MOCA in April. lol Check this and maybe you'll have your question answered in part (I say in part, because I think like you that's serious s**t, but everything should not be put in the same bag; ""street art"" is still diverse...): www.rrockenterprises.com/But, in fact, I don't know at all the guy and had an opposite impression previously, so let's be nice. Pieces are on sale here: www.sanrio.com/smallgift/artshowNuart, if by any chance you read this, what do think of all of that? (to avoid confusion: I ask Nuart, because I know he cares about street art and he organizes in the field, so I would be interested to read his opininon; not that he has anything to do with that to be clear) |
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Post by warmgun on Dec 10, 2010 16:07:43 GMT 1
I'm not checking out anything as I don't really care enough, I'm just saying it's sad to see so many popular artists overtly sell their souls to this brand.
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Post by faute on Dec 10, 2010 16:11:08 GMT 1
Ok, I simply thought that this "Have street art and advertising merged into one entity now?" was a genuine question.
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Post by warmgun on Dec 10, 2010 16:18:21 GMT 1
OK, I lied, I did check out the Sanrio link and that explains a bit (thanks for that) however there have been hello s**tty prints recently released from artists not associated with this project...it's all getting a bit sad and desperate.
Looking at that other hideous link it really does seem that 'street art' is for hire!
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Post by faute on Dec 10, 2010 16:24:50 GMT 1
But if you don't like Hello Kitty, I hope you like Garfield...  |
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Post by warmgun on Dec 10, 2010 16:27:52 GMT 1
Why dude, is that the next big brand that these artists will prostitute themselves for?  |
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Post by Guest on Dec 10, 2010 16:27:58 GMT 1
be nice to see Tony the Tiger get some attention - miss him...
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Post by warmgun on Dec 10, 2010 16:30:37 GMT 1
But if you don't like Hello Kitty, I hope you like Garfield... Oh my effing word! I've seen it all now! Do these guys have no respect for themselves? Unreal! |
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Post by hanky on Dec 10, 2010 16:30:47 GMT 1
My son would love to see Ben 10
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Post by Guest on Dec 10, 2010 16:33:07 GMT 1
What's your point? Are you OK with the fact that at least three artists have released hello kitty prints in the last 5 weeks or so? Does that not trouble you? Have street art and advertising merged into one entity now? How many 'street artists' have used Mickey Mouse, Coca Cola, Skulls, Soup Cans.... the list goes on and on you could easily ask had Street Art and Athena not mearged into one entity as every person with a spray can also had a print for sale - some of these so called Artists don't even have spray cans.... I quite like some of the Kitty Art - and my Mrs bought one - and it wasn't by Lister of Fairey..... |
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Post by Dellboyy on Dec 10, 2010 16:34:27 GMT 1
Sod that, lets have a Thundercats show! :-)
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Post by warmgun on Dec 10, 2010 16:39:16 GMT 1
What's your point? Are you OK with the fact that at least three artists have released hello kitty prints in the last 5 weeks or so? Does that not trouble you? Have street art and advertising merged into one entity now? How many 'street artists' have used Mickey Mouse, Coca Cola, Skulls, Soup Cans.... the list goes on and on you could easily ask had Street Art and Athena not mearged into one entity as every person with a spray can also had a print for sale - some of these so called Artists don't even have spray cans.... I quite like some of the Kitty Art - and my Mrs bought one - and it wasn't by Lister of Fairey..... I'm aware of artists paying homage to brands (if you call it that)over a long career but I've never personally witnessed so many artists independently doing it for one particular brand in such a short space of time. It chills my very soul. |
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Post by Guest on Dec 10, 2010 16:48:03 GMT 1
Welcome to the 21st Century - Next thing Street artists will be selling them selves are brands  - you know making movies , selling plastic toys, designing handbagg, special edition Sprite cans, Nike Trainers, converse..... ;D how hang on .... How is Hello Kitty more Chilling than a Ben Eine Handbag? Street Art is a commercial entity these days an has been for some time get over it.... |
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Post by warmgun on Dec 10, 2010 16:55:24 GMT 1
No need to patronise me son.
If you're happy to have your blinkered mind engulfed by a sustained attack of hello kitty prints by street artists, and not question it whatsoever, then be my guest.
Anything to protect your investment eh?
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Post by Guest on Dec 10, 2010 17:00:37 GMT 1
Not an investor - every bit of art i have ever bought is on the wall and staying there - I welcome any incouragement to creativity...... if you didn't know some of those works were inspired by Hello Kitty you might like them - you are blinkered by the presumption they are coporate - not all of them are that comlimentary of Kitty....
NOT Patronising you - just trying to make you realise the truth and Kitty is not the worst thing ever to Happen to Street Art
- answers on a post card to what is ? MBW anyone?
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Post by warmgun on Dec 10, 2010 17:03:35 GMT 1
Yeah, probably is MBW.
Kitty is the start of things to come I feel.
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Post by Guest on Dec 10, 2010 17:05:22 GMT 1
Great Let's Get Banksy to do Miffy next  |
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Post by faute on Dec 10, 2010 17:27:11 GMT 1
How is Hello Kitty more Chilling than a Ben Eine Handbag? (Almost) Nobody would claim that a Ben Eine Handbag is a piece of art. Artists working for brands, selling products, etc. is different than this. Do you consider an Anthony Lister' mask in general a piece of Art or simply a product? Do you consider a Anthony Lister Hello Kitty mask a piece of art or simply a product? A product can be cool and nice...But, while the lines have not always been clear in street art, they are really blurring here... The show in MOCA (supposed to be the biggest in a museum regarding street art in general) is supposed to be partly regarding the influence of some artists on skate culture, etc. the link with hip-hop, etc. With these Hello Kitty shows, we go from how some artists influenced some popular cullture to how some s**tty culture (or not if you like, but which was not really part of the artists backgrounds) influences a group of artists in general (if it's not exceptional)...This problem does not exist with a Ben Eine Handbag (where I don't see any problem; I don't think there is anything "edgy" in street art) ... But, if we see many shows like that, many things like Hello Kitty stuff, I don't think that we could still say that what comes from street art in general should be more recognized as Art (by the art establishment)...indeed, maybe some are too recognized because of some actual popularity... To summarize: -a Ben Eine handbag has to do with """street art""" being totally mainstream and popular... - this has to do with the "Art"? itself |
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Post by Guest on Dec 10, 2010 17:50:17 GMT 1
Is a Kaws plastic toy Art because it's limited? Is it art when it's Spongebob.
It seems that MOCA and Kitty asked artists to give their take on Kitty - not the first time a gallery has done something like this.
Eine was comissioned to make a design for a bag, Banksy to do a Blur album cover, Lister and others to produce work based on a cartoon cat.
All sold art that was the result of these comissions
What's changed?
And yes I think the Lister Masks are Art in the same way - he was asked to create his own original art on a theme by a curator.
Nice debate though - takes the mind off a certain print....
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