Another solid member banned

[Daniel Silk]

Dec 9, 2010 13:32:24 GMT 1 @sohohoho said:

Anyway, the answer is NO, you didn't refer to a particular artist when telling me to stop posting spam.

Yes your right! I never said anything about any artists, as I was talking about blogs.

Dec 9, 2010 13:32:24 GMT 1 @sohohoho said:

you didn't refer to the blog links when telling me to stop posting spam either so what am I meant to think?

The title of my message to you was "Blog Links"

I had the decency to answer you, now you answer me, PLEASE.

Dec 9, 2010 13:09:17 GMT 1 @sohohoho said:

You never did answer joeschmo’s question Dan, “Did you tell him to stop spamming?”
The simple answer is YES, so repeatedly calling me a liar is pretty defamatory.
theycallmestephen hit the nail on the head. I wouldn’t have thought posting links to info about impending releases would be classed as spam, especially in the correct area of the forum, so I presumed you were referring to the releases themselves. You were asked to make clear what you meant but no attempt was made. You didn’t even warn me about my account. Anyway, I’m going to give you a chance to make things right. First I’m going to apologise. If I got the wrong end of the stick then I’m sorry. Now, I would like you to admit you told me to stop posting spam, but clear the air by explaining what you meant. I would like you to apologise for calling me a liar and de-activating my account without warning. I would like you to re-activate my account so I can access my 2,700 PM’s, some of which are of EXTREME importance. If you have deleted these PM’s, I would like you to state that publicly. Thanks.

[happyshopper]

If another site is getting the news first, they deserve the acknowledgment. Pure and simple.
And I don't think you should copy the WHOLE article on here, with just a link to the other site, either.
Give the basics here, and give the other site credit by letting people read the rest there.
It's the decent thing to do! People have spent time writing their blogs, you can't just steal their info.

[Daniel Silk]

We were talking about Blog Links and you were told to stop spamming, thats what we were talking about.
You then started to post lies about me saying Joe Black and Mau Mau's work is spam that of course was completely untrue, those were lies posted by you on the forum.

Is is it just me who feels Silky is being frustratingly unreasonable? I have apologised for the misunderstanding, what more can I do? All I want from him is to reply to my original post. He can even ignore the majority of it! All I want him to do is publicly confirm that I can't have my account back and that he has deleted my PM's. If someone can get that through to him I would really appreciate it. Cheers.

[Daniel Silk]

Your account is deleted and is gone.

I'm sorry if you think its unreasonable, but I also think its unreasonable to deliberately lie about people, and not for the first time.

Thank you for your apology, and I'm sorry if you have lost PM's that were important to you.

[howlinjack]

Dec 9, 2010 14:30:50 GMT 1 Daniel Silk said:

Your account is deleted and is gone.

I'm sorry if you think its unreasonable, but I also think its unreasonable to deliberately lie about people, and not for the first time.

Thank you for your apology, and I'm sorry if you have lost PM's that were important to you.

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Dec 9, 2010 14:23:06 GMT 1 @sohohoho said:

Is is it just me who feels Silky is being frustratingly unreasonable? I have apologised for the misunderstanding, what more can I do? All I want from him is to reply to my original post. He can even ignore the majority of it! All I want him to do is publicly confirm that I can't have my account back and that he has deleted my PM's. If someone can get that through to him I would really appreciate it. Cheers.

Pick yourself up, Dust yourself down and start all over again..

Not trying to get Ross banned again but can you explain the logic in deleting somebody's account to then let them join back up the next day under a different name and then not delete them?

Dec 9, 2010 14:47:15 GMT 1 @eastonpromise said:

Not trying to get Ross banned again but can you explain the logic in deleting somebody's account to then let them join back up the next day under a different name and then not delete them?

Because some people are genuinly sorry about things said and done...and deserve a second chance ?

[happyshopper]

Both being petty. Silky wasn't calling the Artists "Spam", but what Ross was posting wasn't Spam either! Problem solved!!

[shower]

Deleating someones account because you dont like them is pretty low.... Off with their heads comes to mind!

On the subject of advert money, where has the thread gone where artists and galleries were invited to pay £75 a month to advertise in certain parts of the board?

[Daniel Silk]

Dec 9, 2010 15:12:46 GMT 1 shower said:

Deleating someones account because you dont like them is pretty low.... Off with their heads comes to mind!

On the subject of advert money, where has the thread gone where artists and galleries were invited to pay £75 a month to advertise in certain parts of the board?

"Deleating someones account because you dont like them is pretty low"
Yeah, that does sound bad but thats not what's happened.

Ages ago, we did try that sort of advertising but that was a long time ago, and what you might be thinking are paid adverts now, are actually FREE

[shower]

Sorry, wrong choice of words, but you fell out over whats already been explained, to an extent, and deleated his account. Same sort of thing you must admit.

And I didnt know the advertising thread was so old. I only read it yesterday before it was removed when the subject of money was raised in this thread.

[Daniel Silk]

Your very welcome to contact all the Galleries that have those adverts, and I'm sure they will be happy to confirm that they really are FREE

Sorry if that old thread confused you I removed it as it was out of date, and of course was no longer relevant.

Thanks!

[solar77]

Dec 9, 2010 14:30:50 GMT 1 Daniel Silk said:

Your account is deleted and is gone.

I'm sorry if you think its unreasonable, but I also think its unreasonable to deliberately lie about people, and not for the first time.

Thank you for your apology, and I'm sorry if you have lost PM's that were important to you.

Sorry to butt in, but I don't believe he was deliberately lying about you.

You asked him to stop posting spam. You were referring to the links to various blogs. Ross didn't get that from your message; instead, he inferred that since he was posting links to valid information that you must be referring to the various artists' work as "spam."

Obviously, that's not what you meant, but from reading the thread, it's clear to me as an outsider that you were both caught up in an argument and took what each other said in the worst possible way.

Pretty clear that this was a two-way misunderstanding and that both parties should move on without getting in any final digs at each other.

[curiousgeorge]

Pretty low losing all the pm's, and I'm certain Silky is aware what a massive pain in the ass this for the person losing them, hit 'em where it hurts eh Silky

[coach]

One thing I dont understand is what the problem is with posting a link to a street art blog. Isnt the existence of such a blog something that readers will be interested in? And so relevent to this forum?
Just to be clear, as I dont want to fall foul of any rules, is posting links to a blog against the rules?
If so - where do you draw the line - take Candice Tripp for example - she has a fabulous blog on her site - would a link to that be against the rules?
I genuinly am confused about this - not least because of the repeated use of the word spam - to me, that word means uninvited emails (viagra etc). Does it mean something different in this context?
thanks

[saint]

Have to say i, like Coach, am a bit confused as to the difference between spamming, and posting a link to a blog. I posted a while ago a link to capturing banksys blog showing the seesaw that came before marks and stencils.... Was i spamming? again i am genuinely confused as to what is defined as spamming in this case.

I think the problem was that Ross took your comments in the wrong way, which he has apologised for, but Silky i think you took Ross's comments in the wrong way as well. He clearly misunderstood what you meant by spamming, and he certainly isn't the only one as both me and Coach have no idea either!

[Daniel Silk]

Posting links to any website, blog, or whatever is fine as long as its justified, and is not being used as a way to promote a website or blog that has nothing to do with the Artist, Gallery or Event being talked about.

[Daniel Silk]

Dec 9, 2010 16:37:32 GMT 1 curiousgeorge said:

Pretty low losing all the pm's, and I'm certain Silky is aware what a massive pain in the ass this for the person losing them, hit 'em where it hurts eh Silky

Its also a pain in the ass to keep answering questions from people who have deliberately been mislead by others who say things that are untrue.

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[grafik]

well that's bulls**t, there are loads of blogs out there, run by guys just like me and you, who get information before any of us.

if we post that information on here, its only right to link back to the blog who put in the hard work to find out said info.

so we can only post a link as long as it is an artist, event or gallery we are linking to?

[Daniel Silk]

Dec 9, 2010 17:33:26 GMT 1 grafik said:

well that's bulls**t, there are loads of blogs out there, run by guys just like me and you, who get information before any of us.

if we post that information on here, its only right to link back to the blog who put in the hard work to find out said info.

so we can only post a link as long as it is an artist, event or gallery we are linking to?

Calm down! Thats totally fine Nobody said you cant.

Its when people cross the line and use threads about Artists, Galleries or Events on the forum to promote their blog foremost. By all means link to whatever blog, but don't do it in a way thats clearly about driving traffic to the blog rather than sharing the information with people on the forum.

[warmgun]

What if a particular blog gets all the breaking art news before any other site?

Should we then ignore that blog or site just to avoid diverting traffic that way?

[Daniel Silk]

Dec 9, 2010 17:51:55 GMT 1 warmgun said:

What if a particular blog gets all the breaking art news before any other site?

Should we then ignore that blog or site just to avoid diverting traffic that way?

By all means post a link to the origin of the information Nothing wrong with that at all, its the polite thing to do
Its when the post or thread is more about promoting the blog rather than the news or information about the Artist or Gallery.

[curiousgeorge]

Silky can you keep it simple and post some examples of exactly what is allowed and what is not?

[Daniel Silk]

Dec 9, 2010 18:16:07 GMT 1 curiousgeorge said:

Silky can you keep it simple and post some examples of exactly what is allowed and what is not?

Post the information for people to see, and follow it with a simple link like this - www.woostercollective.com/

rather than -

CLICK HERE

People want to know the information and that's what the post should be about It should be about the Artist, Gallery or whatever, not about where you found the information.

[curiousgeorge]

I'm confused all routes lead to the same path no??

When i click on the RED CLICK HERE it soons becomes clear

Is this more to do with meta tags or some such thing?

For the record as one of the PEOPLE you speak for, I'm totally cool with clicking a click me linky especially where Ross is concerned. Obviously more to this than meets my eye

[Daniel Silk]

If people want a list of links to places to find information they would probably find twitter a better resource.

This is a forum, for people to talk about the Art news and information, rather than promoting places where the info came from.

[curiousgeorge]

Can it be a melting pot of everything? Or is it a case of the highway or my way?