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Post by jackstranger on Nov 10, 2010 19:09:48 GMT 1
Wiz do you think the background of my picture was done by Banksy to Pow?
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Post by Guest on Nov 10, 2010 19:15:09 GMT 1
Yes i do JS, though of course i could be wrong on that. Adam is looking different these days to what he used to, but there again im v sure that Slade dont walk around together in Glam Rock gear today either. Prince Charming? yes Adam of course you still are love.
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Post by jackstranger on Nov 10, 2010 19:19:30 GMT 1
Since always... this Adam period is my fave and my fave album, lovely gatefold cover.
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Post by waveydavey on Nov 10, 2010 20:48:53 GMT 1
I did have a go with some tiles and although I didnt try and pass them off as 'real' invaders there was virtually no difference at all... I cemented one to my garage wall and it does look just like the ones you see out and about! What there are real invaders out and about; amongst us? Good gracious. |
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Post by jeromeetjess on Nov 10, 2010 21:09:46 GMT 1
I really love Invader but it's really to expensive €€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€
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Post by G-Man on Nov 10, 2010 21:57:51 GMT 1
I did have a go with some tiles and although I didnt try and pass them off as 'real' invaders there was virtually no difference at all... I cemented one to my garage wall and it does look just like the ones you see out and about! What there are real invaders out and about; amongst us? Good gracious. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by howies on Nov 10, 2010 22:21:45 GMT 1
I always wanted to frame the tile with sig. but had no option till they released the tile prints and it's worked great original tile piece with signature  |
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Post by Yervi on Nov 10, 2010 22:31:28 GMT 1
howies im planning on doing a similar setup as yours once i get my Invader Kit and my Binary print. I think they'll match fairly well. Thanks for the great idea!
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Post by jackstranger on Nov 10, 2010 22:36:26 GMT 1
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Post by ecb on Nov 11, 2010 1:50:57 GMT 1
I snagged the Top IO Catalogue. The tile book is the tits. Wish it wasnt so expensive.
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Post by meatbag on Nov 11, 2010 1:59:44 GMT 1
yea, for us in the states the currency conversion and shipping would be kick to the nuts. One day I'll suck it up and hopefully land and alias.
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Post by whl10 on Nov 11, 2010 14:43:03 GMT 1
yea, for us in the states the currency conversion and shipping would be kick to the nuts. One day I'll suck it up and hopefully land and alias. ditto |
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Post by Cedric Mnich on Nov 11, 2010 17:45:08 GMT 1
For people saying that INVADER's art is just tiles... and could easily be DIY. It's probably true. BUT When I buy a IK from Invader, I simply buy a genuine one from Invader, made by him (or his assistant, I don't care). Sure, I could do it myself with 10 cents tiles (or whatever they cost) but it would not be the same in my opinion. If you go that way, Andy Warhol just screenprinted stuff on canvas : I certainly could do this myself : news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101110/media_nm/us_usa_auction(yeah, that's a 35 million dollars bottle... Stupid ? Maybe. But do you think anyone would have believed it EVER that price if we had told them back in the 60s ?). I don't know if Invader Art will ever sell for big bucks in the future. But they are ever sold at huge prices, some of us will probably chuckle remembering people saying "do it yourself" or "200 is too expensive". Value of Art is always a subjective point of view anyway. Except I'll never be the first one to think about it. Which makes the whole difference... Being a parisian, I absolutely love the fact that I can walk in Paris and quickly come across an invader wherever I am in Paris. It's a real urban game. It has totally transformed my way of getting around in the city because I always look for invaders now. And buying kits certainly allows the artist to make a living out of it and make new ones, in Paris or any big city in the world. |
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Post by jeromeetjess on Nov 11, 2010 18:11:09 GMT 1
100% d'accord avec toi cedric even if it's true that his prices are climbing on his spaceshop
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Post by disclizard on Nov 11, 2010 18:58:09 GMT 1
Anyone own the invader shoes??
I've been thinking of buying some for a while, and I would like to know if they are a decent quality shoe. Anyone?
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Post by aj2010 on Nov 11, 2010 20:28:13 GMT 1
I have two Space Invaders on my fridge door! I used coloured glass, magnetic tiles from Habitat, they are only a bit of fun but look great. Or at least my boy likes them.  |
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Post by jackstranger on Nov 11, 2010 21:38:40 GMT 1
For people saying that INVADER's art is just tiles... and could easily be DIY. It's probably true. BUT When I buy a IK from Invader, I simply buy a genuine one from Invader, made by him (or his assistant, I don't care). Sure, I could do it myself with 10 cents tiles (or whatever they cost) but it would not be the same in my opinion. If you go that way, Andy Warhol just screenprinted stuff on canvas : I certainly could do this myself : news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101110/media_nm/us_usa_auction(yeah, that's a 35 million dollars bottle... Stupid ? Maybe. But do you think anyone would have believed it EVER that price if we had told them back in the 60s ?). I don't know if Invader Art will ever sell for big bucks in the future. But they are ever sold at huge prices, some of us will probably chuckle remembering people saying "do it yourself" or "200 is too expensive". Value of Art is always a subjective point of view anyway. Except I'll never be the first one to think about it. Which makes the whole difference... Being a parisian, I absolutely love the fact that I can walk in Paris and quickly come across an invader wherever I am in Paris. It's a real urban game. It has totally transformed my way of getting around in the city because I always look for invaders now. And buying kits certainly allows the artist to make a living out of it and make new ones, in Paris or any big city in the world. Invader tiles used by him are probably '10cent' tiles, so why can't you use some for fun if you want too? The idea is never to buy tiles and say it is from Invader or by any means steal his work. His art is lovely, imaginative (even if there was a thread here sometime ago that mentioned a guy in the 70s or something building invaders with tiles too) and important to the 'urban scene'. The idea of invasions is also what makes his work special. The point is why buy '10 cent' tiles that are not even signed to promote the idea/art he created? I understand his work in the streets but these selling kits should have something special and not just tiles. The screenprints have the embossed and the colours and inks makes them special too. The tilled books are really something very desirable... I still do not see a trend line with the comparisons people are using to justify their points of view, but I find them quite interesting: 1. Banksy's unsigned 'Trolleys'; 2. Manzoni's 'Merda d'artista'; 3. Andy Warhol's 'A black-and-white Coke bottle on canvas' From the above I confess I find Invader kits much more appealing to the eye, nose and pocket. |
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Post by jeromeetjess on Nov 11, 2010 21:45:47 GMT 1
How much do cost paper and ink to make a print???
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Post by jackstranger on Nov 11, 2010 21:52:05 GMT 1
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Post by jeromeetjess on Nov 11, 2010 22:04:27 GMT 1
I am Invader fan as I have many pieces from him so I don't agree with people that do not consider concept as a sufficient condition to make difference between art and "I can do it myself"...... A concept grow and could be easy to understand but it is not a reason to deconsider artist research!  |
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Post by jackstranger on Nov 11, 2010 22:11:07 GMT 1
I am Invader fan as I have many pieces from him so I don't agree with people that do not consider concept as a sufficient condition to make difference between art and "I can do it myself"...... A concept grow and could be easy to understand but it is not a reason to deconsider artist research! Can you please explain the context of your reply with my previous posts? |
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Post by jeromeetjess on Nov 11, 2010 22:14:33 GMT 1
Can U please explain your deja vu reply ? I am Invader fan as I have many pieces from him so I don't agree with people that do not consider concept as a sufficient condition to make difference between art and "I can do it myself"...... A concept grow and could be easy to understand but it is not a reason to deconsider artist research! Can you please explain the context of your reply with my previous posts? |
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Post by jackstranger on Nov 11, 2010 22:21:58 GMT 1
Can U please explain your deja vu reply ? Can you please explain the context of your reply with my previous posts? When I was a kid I did learn that it was rude to reply to a question with another, but I will reply anyway. It is dejá-vu because in the previous posts in the thread that question was somehow already made. Also it was not the type of reply that contributes to a discussion but pure nonsense. Also anticipating your reply to my question I may say that there is no point in replying defending the art concept of Invader to someone that just wrote about it and mentioned that his art is unique and important to the scene. |
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Post by jeromeetjess on Nov 11, 2010 22:30:55 GMT 1
I am not rude, I am just french |
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Post by Cedric Mnich on Nov 11, 2010 22:38:16 GMT 1
Jack, if you are familiar with Invader's work you'll know that there are not many ways to own a piece of his art : alias pieces are scarce and very expensive. Tiles glued to wood panels sold in galleries are even more expensive. What does it leaves ? Maps and books. Or kits.
His kits are the closest one can get to his street art : it is made with the same tiles used in the street. Prints are very nice but they are not what he is famed for.
The fact that one can easily DIY is not the point. I don't care about doing invader stuff myself, it would be an imitation. What I buy is an original from the artist. I buy his idea / concept / creativity. Reproducing any of his invaders would cost me less than 10 euros, including my kits I paid for 20 times more.
Now, if anyone wants to DIY an invader, it's ok. It's just it will have no value on the art market (which is probably something most of us keep in mind when buying some art : it can be some sort of investment too, let's face it).
Regarding the comparisons to Banksy unsigned print, Manzoni's mierda or Warhol's print, what we mean is that the value of art is not related to the value of the material used to make it (except Hirst's skull of course ;-). It is not even the easthetical or technical quality of the work. IMHO it's the fact that the artist brings something new.
To some people, Basquiat's works are just child's doodles made with acrylic on cheap canvas or garbage or wood panels. To some, it's revolutionary art which is worth millions.
Invader is probably the same. To some, it's just ceramic tiles. To others, it's a great and new street art concept who will accept paying 200 euros for mere ceramic tiles...
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Post by jackstranger on Nov 11, 2010 22:38:20 GMT 1
I am not rude, I am just french I hope you enjoy your Invaders as I do Enjoy my earth print  |
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Post by jeromeetjess on Nov 11, 2010 22:42:25 GMT 1
Oh yeah mate just love my red "My name is" framed and invasion of paris kit still sealed but still looking for a POW silver invasion if anyone can hear me I want it
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Post by Cedric Mnich on Nov 11, 2010 22:48:12 GMT 1
Pardon our french ! lol
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Post by jeromeetjess on Nov 11, 2010 22:54:11 GMT 1
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Post by waveydavey on Nov 11, 2010 22:55:18 GMT 1
Jack, if you are familiar with Invader's work you'll know that there are not many ways to own a piece of his art : alias pieces are scarce and very expensive. Tiles glued to wood panels sold in galleries are even more expensive. What does it leaves ? Maps and books. Or kits. His kits are the closest one can get to his street art : it is made with the same tiles used in the street. Prints are very nice but they are not what he is famed for. The fact that one can easily DIY is not the point. I don't care about doing invader stuff myself, it would be an imitation. What I buy is an original from the artist. I buy his idea / concept / creativity. Reproducing any of his invaders would cost me less than 10 euros, including my kits I paid for 20 times more. Now, if anyone wants to DIY an invader, it's ok. It's just it will have no value on the art market (which is probably something most of us keep in mind when buying some art : it can be some sort of investment too, let's face it). Regarding the comparisons to Banksy unsigned print, Manzoni's mierda or Warhol's print, what we mean is that the value of art is not related to the value of the material used to make it (except Hirst's skull of course ;-). It is not even the easthetical or technical quality of the work. IMHO it's the fact that the artist brings something new. To some people, Basquiat's works are just child's doodles made with acrylic on cheap canvas or garbage or wood panels. To some, it's revolutionary art which is worth millions. Invader is probably the same. To some, it's just ceramic tiles. To others, it's a great and new street art concept who will accept paying 200 euros for mere ceramic tiles... congrats, longest post of the day. Are the tiles matt or gloss? |
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