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Post by gentlemental on Nov 17, 2010 16:07:29 GMT 1
yes. i think the images are not as strong as before.
the skills are clearly evident, and stronger, but the subject matter... a tad dull.
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Post by scottc on Nov 17, 2010 16:33:52 GMT 1
Disagree I think 'Launch Tonight' is a great Faile image
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Post by Veralynn on Nov 17, 2010 16:35:00 GMT 1
I don't consider that they're 'dull', I'm still musing the Brighton Beach, the price point isn't in itself puttng me off, it's the bloody postage, plus import duty to the UK, plus framing costs which are making me have reservations.......
Can't get too excited around the blocks - personal opinion and all that, $600 is a pipe dream I hope.....
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Post by saint on Nov 17, 2010 16:43:32 GMT 1
Out of interest, what are people planning on doing with the blocks? I've always thought one of the larger boxes would look great in the right setting, but i don't have the right setting so i've never been able to test that theory.... Anyways, look forward to seeing what people do with them.
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Post by Dellboyy on Nov 17, 2010 17:02:58 GMT 1
I think i'll be piling mine into a little mini tower somewhere, doesn't seem right to frame them, and i quite like the idea of easily changing them around!
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Post by connecta1 on Nov 17, 2010 17:32:22 GMT 1
...'Stillettos' sold out.
Very surprised 'Brighton Beach' is the last one left.
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Post by kunstrasen on Nov 17, 2010 17:32:24 GMT 1
Save Stilettos is now sold out as well.
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Post by deepdownboy on Nov 17, 2010 17:45:10 GMT 1
Personelly I think "Launch Tonight" is a fantastic image, this when framed is going to be absulutley stunning 39 x 27.5, you'll be looking at a 4 foot frame and the pink is so unusual i tell you this is going to be a blinder I'd love to see some framed up pictures when there done!!!
DDB
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Post by gilsteph on Nov 17, 2010 17:51:08 GMT 1
Agree about "Launch today" Think its a great Faile and will look brill next to this one :-)  |
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Post by gentlemental on Nov 17, 2010 18:56:11 GMT 1
Next up....robots and pajamas and apes in suit!!! Thats the faile we love! Bring those on!!
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Post by maadbeats on Nov 17, 2010 19:18:33 GMT 1
Agree about "Launch today" Think its a great Faile and will look brill next to this one :-) Mirror Mirror, One of their best images. |
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Post by dime683 on Nov 17, 2010 20:53:58 GMT 1
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Post by Guest on Nov 17, 2010 21:50:24 GMT 1
They buyer must be mad.
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Post by thesmallprint on Nov 17, 2010 23:40:15 GMT 1
yeah, huge fan of faile's and even though i had stilettos right up to paypal just couldn't pull the trigger... much prefer their other work and other pieces in the show... i see the blocks like the lazarides coins, nice to have if you're a collector but not an investment piece... mind you, they probably said that about warhol's brillo boxes...
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Post by Guest on Nov 18, 2010 2:24:21 GMT 1
Its actually disgusting to think how much money these guys make...Its literally printing money to them.
$240,000 revenue in one print release which most likely cost them $2000 in materials a the very most
Furthermore $800 for a faile?? That is totally unreasonable they are hardly mainstream. POW used to sell failes for £75.
I'm sorry but Banksy is the MAN for not selling out like these guys.
Those faile boys are laughing eating lobster and drinking Champagne in the Plaza hotel NY
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Post by leumasdarnley on Nov 18, 2010 2:41:38 GMT 1
Its actually disgusting to think how much money these guys make...Its literally printing money to them. $240,000 revenue in one print release which most likely cost them $2000 in materials a the very most Furthermore $800 for a faile?? That is totally unreasonable they are hardly mainstream. POW used to sell failes for £75. I'm sorry but Banksy is the MAN for not selling out like these guys. Those faile boys are laughing eating lobster and drinking Champagne in the Plaza hotel NY I don't think your gauge of the Faile market is correct. Also do the numbers on Banksy's Trolley release and get back to me. |
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Post by leumasdarnley on Nov 18, 2010 2:47:15 GMT 1
I think the POW main release which was just Unsigned, B/W Signed and Colour was over 1 million dollars in sales in about 15 mins. That is not including the LA prints.
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Post by jamessmith77 on Nov 18, 2010 2:48:34 GMT 1
I think Faile are actually sort of wack...
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Post by leumasdarnley on Nov 18, 2010 2:51:39 GMT 1
I think Faile are actually sort of wack... I don't disagree actually but a lot of people dig it. |
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Post by Guest on Nov 18, 2010 3:25:42 GMT 1
Well people are buying it up so yes you are right to say they are popular but ultimately fail is charging banksy prices for something they are not. 6 maybe 7 out of ten people in the uk would probably be aware of banksy thats just a guess.. but my point is that less than 1 out of ten people would know who faile was. Even shep fairey is better known and hes charging $50 a print!
Its art for all the wrong reasons, banksy is the man and he can do what he likes in this market as far as I am concerned, he hasn't released one print this year! even I queued over night for the last one! he has droped laz and slowly dropping pow.
I'm sorry In my opinion which I am entitled too...faile is not worth all the hype as good as the art may be. They take full advantage of the fact that some middle aged people have to much money and feel young and hip by buying "alternative art".
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Post by leumasdarnley on Nov 18, 2010 3:36:24 GMT 1
You are free to your opinion but Faile has been around for quite some time. It's not like MBW riding some big hype train. They are charging fair market value for there prints to deter flipping. Shepard releases 450 prints a week so even at 50.00 thats over 40k a month on avg. His market is built on flipping IMO. Listen I could give a s**t about Faile but the reality is they have a nice international market the people who can afford the pieces do so and so what. I like Banksy a lot as well but he has cashed in at times and I don't blame him. Lets agree to disagree  |
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Post by Guest on Nov 18, 2010 5:05:13 GMT 1
6 maybe 7 out of ten people in the uk would probably be aware of banksy thats just a guess.. but my point is that less than 1 out of ten people would know who faile was. Even shep fairey is better known and hes charging $50 a print! Probably more like 1 in 100 people know what Faile is. And probably 1 in 1000 people know who Wade Guyton is yet his stuff sells for more than both Faile and Banksy. |
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Post by Guest on Nov 18, 2010 5:18:13 GMT 1
Hey lvc, go educate yourself |
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Post by mikte on Nov 18, 2010 5:41:01 GMT 1
am liking this discussion.
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Post by anodyne13 on Nov 18, 2010 5:53:29 GMT 1
They take full advantage of the fact that some middle aged people have to much money and feel young and hip by buying "alternative art". I think many an artist has benefited from that. |
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Post by gentlemental on Nov 18, 2010 6:02:00 GMT 1
This recent release is no rep of what Faile is. Possibly a soft nudge to the FAILE TSUNAMI that is coming....    |
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Post by pcant on Nov 18, 2010 6:34:15 GMT 1
lvc: If I may be so bold, you are certainly entitled to your opinion (and if we all liked the same stuff, life would be deadly dull and all that) but why do you care of other people like and buy Faile prints? I don't like all the art on this forum, but it doesn't bother me if others do. What about it bothers you so much? Not trying to be a jerk, just curious. You seem quite emphatic.
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Post by mikte on Nov 18, 2010 6:58:39 GMT 1
This recent release is no rep of what Faile is. Possibly a soft nudge to the FAILE TSUNAMI that is coming.... Now these ones rock my boat. |
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Post by Guest on Nov 18, 2010 7:08:26 GMT 1
I also prefer these three to the three that were released.... But I guess the three Faile choose translate to paper better then these three. Going from block to paper seemed extremely difficult
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Post by pcant on Nov 18, 2010 7:12:43 GMT 1
Sub Rosa is definitely awesome. Not sure if these would have been more difficult than the three that were released. The prints are 18 colors, so that would make these three feasible, I would imagine? Maybe not Bedtime Stories.
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