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The Banksy FILM Effect , by willywonka on Mar 10, 2010 14:37:50 GMT 1, Wait... wait. So, MBW does no art by himself ?
Correct.
Are you saying that all the pieces shown on that show were made for him by other artists that he paid ?
Correct again. When you see ETTGS you will understand exactly how cr@p MBW is at art. He does nothing himself apart from hype.
Wait... wait. So, MBW does no art by himself ? Correct. Are you saying that all the pieces shown on that show were made for him by other artists that he paid ? Correct again. When you see ETTGS you will understand exactly how cr@p MBW is at art. He does nothing himself apart from hype.
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by Daniel Silk on Mar 10, 2010 14:45:48 GMT 1, I think some of you are getting a bit caught up in this idea that if an artist doesn't make the work, its not a valid piece of art
Banksy doesn't make all of his work, but that dunt seem to worry anyone!
I think some of you are getting a bit caught up in this idea that if an artist doesn't make the work, its not a valid piece of art Banksy doesn't make all of his work, but that dunt seem to worry anyone!
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by Daniel Silk on Mar 10, 2010 14:50:23 GMT 1, Its also worth remembers its just a Film much of it looked very staged and edited to fit the story.
Its also worth remembers its just a Film much of it looked very staged and edited to fit the story.
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by chrisps303 on Mar 10, 2010 14:52:04 GMT 1, Well he does the hand-finishing (i.e. paint-splatters) apparently.
Watching mbw hand finishing prints in the film is very funny.
Well he does the hand-finishing (i.e. paint-splatters) apparently. Watching mbw hand finishing prints in the film is very funny.
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by willywonka on Mar 10, 2010 14:59:41 GMT 1, Banksy doesn't make all of his work, but that dunt seem to worry anyone!
He makes most of it though.
From what I could see MBW didn't do any of it!
Banksy doesn't make all of his work, but that dunt seem to worry anyone! He makes most of it though. From what I could see MBW didn't do any of it!
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by Daniel Silk on Mar 10, 2010 15:00:49 GMT 1, Banksy doesn't make all of his work, but that dunt seem to worry anyone! He makes most of it though. From what I could see MBW didn't do any of it!
Its a Film
Banksy doesn't make all of his work, but that dunt seem to worry anyone! He makes most of it though. From what I could see MBW didn't do any of it! Its a Film
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by Cedric Mnich on Mar 10, 2010 15:13:37 GMT 1, Well Silky, it could be debatted... I know Art is as much a matter of idea as of realization. I know some old masters had some assistants painting some details or secondary things on a work. But well, I have less respect for artists who have their Art done by others, especially if it is the whole piece. That includes Hirst, Koons, Murakami or Warhol to name a few. Having assistants is a thing. Paying artists to have art done for you is another (from my humble point of view). Well, I don't know, but I prefer artists who do their stuff themselves.
Well Silky, it could be debatted... I know Art is as much a matter of idea as of realization. I know some old masters had some assistants painting some details or secondary things on a work. But well, I have less respect for artists who have their Art done by others, especially if it is the whole piece. That includes Hirst, Koons, Murakami or Warhol to name a few. Having assistants is a thing. Paying artists to have art done for you is another (from my humble point of view). Well, I don't know, but I prefer artists who do their stuff themselves.
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by Daniel Silk on Mar 10, 2010 15:14:20 GMT 1,
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by Daniel Silk on Mar 10, 2010 15:15:55 GMT 1, Dint seem to do Warhol any harm but I guess he still had plenty of people at the time saying it was wrong.
Dint seem to do Warhol any harm but I guess he still had plenty of people at the time saying it was wrong.
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by Guest on Mar 10, 2010 15:26:40 GMT 1, Its also worth remembers its just a Film much of it looked very staged and edited to fit the story.
Right, staged by Banksy, to show how with hype and lots of help from real artists you can turn a crap film maker with no artistic talent into........wait for it...........you guessed it, an artist.
Its also worth remembers its just a Film much of it looked very staged and edited to fit the story. Right, staged by Banksy, to show how with hype and lots of help from real artists you can turn a crap film maker with no artistic talent into........wait for it...........you guessed it, an artist.
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by Daniel Silk on Mar 10, 2010 15:42:24 GMT 1, In PR terms, who do you think gained the most or of this film? Out of 100.
I would say - Mr Brainwash = 50 Banksy = 30 Shepard Fairey = 15 Other Artists = 5
In PR terms, who do you think gained the most or of this film? Out of 100.
I would say - Mr Brainwash = 50 Banksy = 30 Shepard Fairey = 15 Other Artists = 5
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by goaty on Mar 10, 2010 15:44:42 GMT 1, I'd probably say after the top three Space Invader and Andrรฉ got the most coverage.
I'd probably say after the top three Space Invader and Andrรฉ got the most coverage.
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by Daniel Silk on Mar 10, 2010 15:45:46 GMT 1, The problem is that I think a certain percentage of people who watch the film who might not know any of the artists beforehand, will walk away thinking Mr Brainwash is now bigger than Banksy I know its crazy!
The problem is that I think a certain percentage of people who watch the film who might not know any of the artists beforehand, will walk away thinking Mr Brainwash is now bigger than Banksy I know its crazy!
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by nex on Mar 10, 2010 15:47:11 GMT 1, In PR terms, who do you think gained the most or of this film? Out of 100. I would say - Mr Brainwash = 50 Banksy = 30 Shepard Fairey = 15 Other Artists = 5
interested to know the statistical model connected to public relations you've used to calculate these figures?
using my own statistical model based on toast falling butter side down or up I've calculated the following out of 10
Mr Brainwash - -2
banksy - 5
shep - 1.5 the dog ate the toast
In PR terms, who do you think gained the most or of this film? Out of 100. I would say - Mr Brainwash = 50 Banksy = 30 Shepard Fairey = 15 Other Artists = 5 interested to know the statistical model connected to public relations you've used to calculate these figures? using my own statistical model based on toast falling butter side down or up I've calculated the following out of 10 Mr Brainwash - -2 banksy - 5 shep - 1.5 the dog ate the toast
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by boaty on Mar 10, 2010 15:49:29 GMT 1, I would say, at this point: Banksy = 70 Mr Brainwash = 20 Shepard Fairey = 5 Other Artists = 5
The hype primarily helps Banksy at this point - with no US release and all....the bigger MBW and Shep fans in the US don't yet have skin in the debate....
In PR terms, who do you think gained the most or of this film? Out of 100. I would say - Mr Brainwash = 50 Banksy = 30 Shepard Fairey = 15 Other Artists = 5
I would say, at this point: Banksy = 70 Mr Brainwash = 20 Shepard Fairey = 5 Other Artists = 5 The hype primarily helps Banksy at this point - with no US release and all....the bigger MBW and Shep fans in the US don't yet have skin in the debate.... In PR terms, who do you think gained the most or of this film? Out of 100. I would say - Mr Brainwash = 50 Banksy = 30 Shepard Fairey = 15 Other Artists = 5
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by nex on Mar 10, 2010 15:50:01 GMT 1, Banksy doesn't make all of his work, but that dunt seem to worry anyone!
irrelevant to the critique of mbw's work c- must try harder
Banksy doesn't make all of his work, but that dunt seem to worry anyone! irrelevant to the critique of mbw's work c- must try harder
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by Daniel Silk on Mar 10, 2010 15:51:02 GMT 1, Nex, thats the problem exactly!
You see it like that, but I think other people who might not know anything about the artists before watching the film might well see it differently And I think the surge in interest in Mr Brainwash's work shows that So do we think Banksy is happy with this outcome?
Nex, thats the problem exactly! You see it like that, but I think other people who might not know anything about the artists before watching the film might well see it differently And I think the surge in interest in Mr Brainwash's work shows that So do we think Banksy is happy with this outcome?
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by Daniel Silk on Mar 10, 2010 15:56:28 GMT 1, Banksy doesn't make all of his work, but that dunt seem to worry anyone! irrelevant to the critique of mbw's work c- must try harder
So really if we don't like his work we should be blaming his team of workers Maybe now he has some money under his belt he can afford to employ some better people? Seriously!
Banksy doesn't make all of his work, but that dunt seem to worry anyone! irrelevant to the critique of mbw's work c- must try harder So really if we don't like his work we should be blaming his team of workers Maybe now he has some money under his belt he can afford to employ some better people? Seriously!
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by Guest on Mar 10, 2010 16:04:22 GMT 1, Do you seriously think anyone that watches the movie, that has no interest in street art, will come out of the cinema and think MBW comes off well from this? i must buy some of his work? i dont think so.
Do you seriously think anyone that watches the movie, that has no interest in street art, will come out of the cinema and think MBW comes off well from this? i must buy some of his work? i dont think so.
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by Daniel Silk on Mar 10, 2010 16:10:30 GMT 1, Do you seriously think anyone that watches the movie, that has no interest in street art, will come out of the cinema and think MBW comes off well from this? i must buy some of his work? i dont think so.
No matter what Me, You, or anyone else here thinks thats seems to be whats happening.
Do you seriously think anyone that watches the movie, that has no interest in street art, will come out of the cinema and think MBW comes off well from this? i must buy some of his work? i dont think so. No matter what Me, You, or anyone else here thinks thats seems to be whats happening.
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by Guest on Mar 10, 2010 16:13:49 GMT 1, Do you seriously think anyone that watches the movie, that has no interest in street art, will come out of the cinema and think MBW comes off well from this? i must buy some of his work? i dont think so. No matter what Me, You, or anyone else here thinks thats seems to be whats happening.
where? the film hasnt even shown in the states. Dont see his prints selling too well on ebay.co.uk. Youre talking about hype generated on internet forums? not sales.
Do you seriously think anyone that watches the movie, that has no interest in street art, will come out of the cinema and think MBW comes off well from this? i must buy some of his work? i dont think so. No matter what Me, You, or anyone else here thinks thats seems to be whats happening. where? the film hasnt even shown in the states. Dont see his prints selling too well on ebay.co.uk. Youre talking about hype generated on internet forums? not sales.
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by wilfsboy on Mar 10, 2010 17:38:10 GMT 1, Do you seriously think anyone that watches the movie, that has no interest in street art, will come out of the cinema and think MBW comes off well from this? i must buy some of his work? i dont think so. No matter what Me, You, or anyone else here thinks thats seems to be whats happening.
Thats exactly whats happening....
Banksy's created a monster...
Do you seriously think anyone that watches the movie, that has no interest in street art, will come out of the cinema and think MBW comes off well from this? i must buy some of his work? i dont think so. No matter what Me, You, or anyone else here thinks thats seems to be whats happening. Thats exactly whats happening.... Banksy's created a monster...
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by Daniel Silk on Mar 10, 2010 17:47:29 GMT 1, No matter what Me, You, or anyone else here thinks thats seems to be whats happening. Thats exactly whats happening.... Banksy's created a monster...
The question is - Was this Banksy's Plan? or has it backfired?
No matter what Me, You, or anyone else here thinks thats seems to be whats happening. Thats exactly whats happening.... Banksy's created a monster... The question is - Was this Banksy's Plan? or has it backfired?
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by bristolboy on Mar 10, 2010 17:59:40 GMT 1, Thats exactly whats happening.... Banksy's created a monster... The question is - Was this Banksy's Plan? or has it backfired?
In what way has it back fired?
Thats exactly whats happening.... Banksy's created a monster... The question is - Was this Banksy's Plan? or has it backfired? In what way has it back fired?
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by Curley on Mar 10, 2010 18:02:55 GMT 1, In PR terms, who do you think gained the most or of this film? Out of 100. I would say - Mr Brainwash = 50 Banksy = 30 Shepard Fairey = 15 Other Artists = 5
IMO Banksy is the PR winner by a country mile
I don't see MBW on the cover of Time Out or The Sunday Times mag, nor is he in 100K of flyer packs, his name is not mentioned on the posters advertising the film that are in every tube station. Nor is MBW really mentioned in any of the reviews and when he is its not in a good way.
In PR terms, who do you think gained the most or of this film? Out of 100. I would say - Mr Brainwash = 50 Banksy = 30 Shepard Fairey = 15 Other Artists = 5 IMO Banksy is the PR winner by a country mile I don't see MBW on the cover of Time Out or The Sunday Times mag, nor is he in 100K of flyer packs, his name is not mentioned on the posters advertising the film that are in every tube station. Nor is MBW really mentioned in any of the reviews and when he is its not in a good way.
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by Daniel Silk on Mar 10, 2010 18:06:37 GMT 1, The question is - Was this Banksy's Plan? or has it backfired? In what way has it back fired?
If Mr Brainwash goes on to sell thousands of prints and has sell out shows on the back of the film Is that a Good or Bad result?
The question is - Was this Banksy's Plan? or has it backfired? In what way has it back fired? If Mr Brainwash goes on to sell thousands of prints and has sell out shows on the back of the film Is that a Good or Bad result?
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by bristolboy on Mar 10, 2010 18:08:41 GMT 1, In what way has it back fired? If Mr Brainwash goes on to sell thousands of prints and has sell out shows on the back of the film Is that a Good or Bad result?
He did that before the film didnt he?
In what way has it back fired? If Mr Brainwash goes on to sell thousands of prints and has sell out shows on the back of the film Is that a Good or Bad result? He did that before the film didnt he?
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by Daniel Silk on Mar 10, 2010 18:12:06 GMT 1, If Mr Brainwash goes on to sell thousands of prints and has sell out shows on the back of the film Is that a Good or Bad result? He did that before the film didnt he?
True to some extent, but what effect will the film have on him in the future? I don't think its gonna be negative.
If Mr Brainwash goes on to sell thousands of prints and has sell out shows on the back of the film Is that a Good or Bad result? He did that before the film didnt he? True to some extent, but what effect will the film have on him in the future? I don't think its gonna be negative.
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by Daniel Silk on Mar 10, 2010 18:17:38 GMT 1, Another thing I was thinking about the other day
With the film creating a lot of interest over the coming months, will Banksy in some ways be forced to release more prints that he might have done otherwise, due to if people cant buy work by him, they might see Mr Brainwash as an alternative? I should think Brainwash will release loads of work to cash in on the media coverage
Another thing I was thinking about the other day With the film creating a lot of interest over the coming months, will Banksy in some ways be forced to release more prints that he might have done otherwise, due to if people cant buy work by him, they might see Mr Brainwash as an alternative? I should think Brainwash will release loads of work to cash in on the media coverage
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The Banksy FILM Effect , by Guest on Mar 10, 2010 18:18:37 GMT 1, silky, did you read curleys post? hasnt your question been answered. show one review that is positive regarding MBW and the film.
silky, did you read curleys post? hasnt your question been answered. show one review that is positive regarding MBW and the film.
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