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Post by top on Apr 9, 2008 1:21:19 GMT 1
I personally have no doubt that Derek's thread is nothing but of genuine interest and intrigue.
From what Derek has written above, I perceive that he purely wishes to hear others opinions, to which many people have added constructively..which I am sure he and MEAR appreciate.
Anyway, whomsoever defaced the mural has every right to 'tag' a street piece, yet, its such a shame as it was a remarkable piece by MEAR whom sprayed it up for the people..just like Banksy does..
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Post by dog byte on Apr 9, 2008 3:37:28 GMT 1
one more thing on this
every piece banksy has done in l.a has been photographed hundreds if not thousands of times. in almost 2 years there is no record of anyone ever posting a photo of this claiming it may be banksy.
just passed by mear working on the dalai lama and it is amazing...
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Post by Lord Lucas Roham on Apr 9, 2008 9:07:57 GMT 1
Pm'd with info
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Post by manchestermike on Apr 9, 2008 9:32:55 GMT 1
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Post by carbon on Apr 9, 2008 9:40:01 GMT 1
even if their was a similaraty in the text.
If i copy banksys handstyle does that make me banksy?
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Post by daddycool on Apr 9, 2008 10:41:28 GMT 1
a great piece by mears
but looking at Mr B's writing.... The letter A makes it clear as daylight it's not him
just my thought though ;D
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Post by Baurmann Gallery on Apr 9, 2008 11:05:06 GMT 1
one more thing on this every piece banksy has done in l.a has been photographed hundreds if not thousands of times. in almost 2 years there is no record of anyone ever posting a photo of this claiming it may be banksy. just passed by mear working on the dalai lama and it is amazing... I am extremely glad you got a chance to check that out. It is one of the best pieces he has ever done in my opinion and I was blown away to see most of it completed. I agree if it was Banksy there should have been tons of photos. He has also never done anything like that to my knowledge. But basically, our one of the main questions still perplexing us is why do the people in the neighborhood seem to think they know something [that we don’t know or never heard about until this weekend] and why is everyone so sure it was Banksy? I found the picture while searching this weekend, but the link I got it from was not saved [so I did not want to mention the blog that had it too until I could find it…]. This is another store that commented on it. They did it in a blog right after it happened though. www.hvw8.com/news.phpwww.hvw8.com/news/banksy.jpg[Go halfway down the page] Banksy 09/30/06 Banksy just had a huge show in L.A.. So big that I was waiting in line at the conerstore, and the tabloids even had articles about the Banksy show. I guess Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie attended and dropped a bunch of change at the opening. Good for Banksy, because he is amazing, and he still finds the time to do pieces around town. Across the street from the HVW8 shop on Melrose he did huge "No More Heroes" piece. He even took the time to deface a piece in alley, writting "Bad Art Hurts Everyone" over the piece and painting the eyes red. Have a look. |
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Post by spirit on Apr 9, 2008 11:19:18 GMT 1
Why not try sending a photo of the defaced piece to pest control and see if they authenticate it.
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Post by seidbereit on Apr 9, 2008 11:31:25 GMT 1
I can't believe individual letters are being compared and analysed. Quite aside from the fact that I doubt very much you can compare "handwriting" samples done with a spraycan the same way as those done with a pencil, can anyone here for one minute truthfully say the phrase "bad art hurts everyone" smacks of something Banksy would say/write? Seems completely against the grain to me - I see no need to investigate it any deeper. Then again, maybe whoever signed the Trolleys and SAS prints did it?  |
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Post by spencerlee on Apr 9, 2008 11:40:06 GMT 1
Probably s-editions' latest attempt at publicity.  |
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Post by carbon on Apr 9, 2008 11:42:32 GMT 1
publicity by association
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Post by newmang on Apr 9, 2008 11:55:44 GMT 1
Whoever did this isn't consistent with their own handwriting, so I can't see any point trying to compare them to other pieces.  |
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Post by Guest on Apr 9, 2008 15:01:37 GMT 1
Banksy Did It. Mear One is one of the most obnoxious, egotistical, bastard street artist's out there, and that's saying alot for a Los Angeles writer! In group show situations, he should be careful of whose work he moves off the wall and tosses to the ground to replace with his own. Banksy did this as an act of solidarity with another artist, from an incident that happened almost a decade ago. Every project that Mear is involved with collectively with other artist's goes sour very quickly. Furthermore, he's NOT a good artist. What is it about this piece that is technically advanced, or particularly witty? Nothing. I'll reserve judgement on the new piece, but considering what I've seen in the past, it won't be anything great, I'm sure. Mear is never in the same league, and will never be in the same league. This is the controversy you wanted by calling him out like this, so hear you go. Banksy says Mear Sucks! Good Luck selling prints now that you've made it public knowledge on this board. You would be wise to distance yourself from Mear right now, he's not going anywhere in the grand scheme of the art world. I assure you. interesting 2nd post! How can you confirm this though? |
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Post by top on Apr 9, 2008 15:29:38 GMT 1
The plot thickens?
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Post by quimby on Apr 9, 2008 15:30:53 GMT 1
Banksy Did It. Mear One is one of the most obnoxious, egotistical, bastard street artist's out there, and that's saying alot for a Los Angeles writer! In group show situations, he should be careful of whose work he moves off the wall and tosses to the ground to replace with his own. Banksy did this as an act of solidarity with another artist, from an incident that happened almost a decade ago. Every project that Mear is involved with collectively with other artist's goes sour very quickly. Furthermore, he's NOT a good artist. What is it about this piece that is technically advanced, or particularly witty? Nothing. I'll reserve judgement on the new piece, but considering what I've seen in the past, it won't be anything great, I'm sure. Mear is never in the same league, and will never be in the same league. This is the controversy you wanted by calling him out like this, so hear you go. Banksy says Mear Sucks! Good Luck selling prints now that you've made it public knowledge on this board. You would be wise to distance yourself from Mear right now, he's not going anywhere in the grand scheme of the art world. I assure you. OOF! |
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Post by spencerlee on Apr 9, 2008 15:33:04 GMT 1
Game on!
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Post by form01 on Apr 9, 2008 16:22:44 GMT 1
The hand bags are out
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Post by mcster on Apr 9, 2008 16:31:42 GMT 1
Banksy Did It. Mear One is one of the most obnoxious, egotistical, bastard street artist's out there, and that's saying alot for a Los Angeles writer! In group show situations, he should be careful of whose work he moves off the wall and tosses to the ground to replace with his own. Banksy did this as an act of solidarity with another artist, from an incident that happened almost a decade ago. Every project that Mear is involved with collectively with other artist's goes sour very quickly. Furthermore, he's NOT a good artist. What is it about this piece that is technically advanced, or particularly witty? Nothing. I'll reserve judgement on the new piece, but considering what I've seen in the past, it won't be anything great, I'm sure. Mear is never in the same league, and will never be in the same league. This is the controversy you wanted by calling him out like this, so hear you go. Banksy says Mear Sucks! Good Luck selling prints now that you've made it public knowledge on this board. You would be wise to distance yourself from Mear right now, he's not going anywhere in the grand scheme of the art world. I assure you. You sound very confident in all this. I know you say it doesn't need expanding upon, but if you ever get the urge to let more out please do - whatever Mear did must have been pretty damn serious if Banksy is carrying out a revenge attack for another artist almost ten years later? Would love to know more... ;D |
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Post by top on Apr 9, 2008 16:34:42 GMT 1
Why wait ten years? ..bizarre (if true..)
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Post by mcster on Apr 9, 2008 16:37:10 GMT 1
Why wait ten years? ..bizarre (if true..) That's what I thought, I've fallen out with people over some really serious things in the past, but ten years later they don't seem to matter quite as much. |
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Post by robotoil on Apr 9, 2008 16:40:35 GMT 1
Banksy Did It. Mear One is one of the most obnoxious, egotistical, bastard street artist's out there, and that's saying alot for a Los Angeles writer! In group show situations, he should be careful of whose work he moves off the wall and tosses to the ground to replace with his own. Banksy did this as an act of solidarity with another artist, from an incident that happened almost a decade ago. Every project that Mear is involved with collectively with other artist's goes sour very quickly. Furthermore, he's NOT a good artist. What is it about this piece that is technically advanced, or particularly witty? Nothing. I'll reserve judgement on the new piece, but considering what I've seen in the past, it won't be anything great, I'm sure. Mear is never in the same league, and will never be in the same league. This is the controversy you wanted by calling him out like this, so hear you go. Banksy says Mear Sucks! Good Luck selling prints now that you've made it public knowledge on this board. You would be wise to distance yourself from Mear right now, he's not going anywhere in the grand scheme of the art world. I assure you. What happened a decade ago? What collaborations are you referring to? |
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Post by Baurmann Gallery on Apr 10, 2008 6:49:52 GMT 1
Banksy Did It. Mear One is one of the most obnoxious, egotistical, bastard street artist's out there, and that's saying alot for a Los Angeles writer! In group show situations, he should be careful of whose work he moves off the wall and tosses to the ground to replace with his own. Banksy did this as an act of solidarity with another artist, from an incident that happened almost a decade ago. Every project that Mear is involved with collectively with other artist's goes sour very quickly. Furthermore, he's NOT a good artist. What is it about this piece that is technically advanced, or particularly witty? Nothing. I'll reserve judgement on the new piece, but considering what I've seen in the past, it won't be anything great, I'm sure. Mear is never in the same league, and will never be in the same league. This is the controversy you wanted by calling him out like this, so hear you go. Banksy says Mear Sucks! Good Luck selling prints now that you've made it public knowledge on this board. You would be wise to distance yourself from Mear right now, he's not going anywhere in the grand scheme of the art world. I assure you. The beauty of these forums is that everyone can have an opinion, express it and share it with the world and not everyone has to see eye to eye. If you do not like MEAR or his art, then that is your opinion and nothing I can say can sway that. I personally disagree strongly on your assertions, but everyone definitely has different tastes in art and opinions of what is good or not. You are also welcome to think he is going nowhere, but more than your opinion impacts the art world. I prefer to let the people decide, and the support we have received so far has been one of the things MEAR and I have appreciated and valued most. We have put in tremendous time and effort into all of our endeavors, and will continue to do so. Like I said, you are entitled to your opinion, but we will see what people in general say about MEAR and his art. And MEAR, though he loves it when he receives support and kind words, regardless of whatever is said by anyone [me included], whether it makes him rich or leaves him dirt poor he is going to continue to do his art and stay true to what he has always done, and that is bring a powerful message to the world. In terms of the “incident” you spoke of, you definitely have some interesting insider knowledge but hypothetically if that was what the whole thing was based on, it does not justify going over someone’s hard work in my opinion. That “incident” you spoke of was pretty trivial, so though you do have insight into something minor that happened and not many people know about it, I am still not convinced you have any association with Banksy. My main problem with what you say is how does anyone or I even know what you say is legitimate or just some anonymous person? I am out here standing behind everything I say with my name, if you are going to call someone out or make such bold statements, at you can have the respect to not do it anonymously [like whomever defaced MEAR’s last mural did as well]. Here is the new completed mural for anyone who may be interested:  |
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Post by mcster on Apr 10, 2008 7:55:36 GMT 1
Nice work. I looked on MEAR's site yesterday (for the first time ever I hasten to add) and was impressed by what I saw. Having no idea what all the fuss is about, or how true or serious it was, I'll judge the art rather than the comments...
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Post by top on Apr 10, 2008 9:33:32 GMT 1
Well, that's the talent bit silenced..
Incredible mural
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Post by BME on Apr 10, 2008 10:23:34 GMT 1
Well, that's the talent bit silenced.. Incredible mural Okay, I can see I'm in the minority here but I think that the mural is horrible. There are a growing number of artists in the scene feeding off the general frenzy who contribute very little. From what I have seen on this thread MEAR is a prime example. The piece is tolerably executed but nothing more. It lacks humour as well as political/ social insight. Above all it's boring. I actually feel that (with a handful of exceptions) the quality of new material/ releases this years has been fairly poor. Dface draws wings on something else, Beejoir trots out his starving child again (albeit for a good cause) etc. The market at the moment is 90% hype and 10% talent. It won't last. |
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Post by timba82 on Apr 10, 2008 10:32:14 GMT 1
this is a farce!!!
for gods sake its probably some kid trying to make a name for himself amongst his mates.
do you really think banksy needs to do this to get publicity???
i mean please??!!!!!!
i completely disagree the lettering looks similar at all!
your disrespecting all of banksy's previous work by putting this crap defacing on his head.
stop throwing rumours about when i could be anyone.
literally anyone!
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Post by timba82 on Apr 10, 2008 10:33:41 GMT 1
.....sorry....it could be anyone ^^^^^^
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Post by seidbereit on Apr 10, 2008 10:46:08 GMT 1
Well, that's the talent bit silenced.. Incredible mural Okay, I can see I'm in the minority here but I think that the mural is horrible. There are a growing number of artists in the scene feeding off the general frenzy who contribute very little. From what I have seen on this thread MEAR is a prime example. The piece is tolerably executed but nothing more. It lacks humour as well as political/ social insight. Above all it's boring. I actually feel that (with a handful of exceptions) the quality of new material/ releases this years has been fairly poor. Dface draws wings on something else, Beejoir trots out his starving child again (albeit for a good cause) etc. The market at the moment is 90% hype and 10% talent. It won't last. You're not quite on your own in that minority BME (if it is a minority at all) as that mural does nothing for me either. In fact I find it more than a little derogatory. Everyone knows what's said about first impressions and I have to say my first impression of what the Dalai Lama is supposedly saying in that piece is "our land and our freedom to practice our way of life has been ravaged and destroyed by an aggressive occupying nation but hey, it's cool". I doubt very much indeed that this is how the people affected by those issues really feel. Execution wise fine, but it certainly doesn't stand out from anything an enormous amount of other graffiti and mural artists can produce and have produce for decades; message wise though it's definitely high, wide and not very handsome. At least I now understand the meaning behind "bad art hurts everyone", seems it wasn't quite so arbitrary or petty after all. |
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Post by Daniel Silk on Apr 10, 2008 11:07:29 GMT 1
I think this would make a nice print ;D Not sure it would sell so well in some parts of China though ;D |
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Post by Daniel Silk on Apr 10, 2008 11:10:20 GMT 1
The fact the Mear has used the Dalai Lama and whole free Tibet campaign for the subject is great, but every thing you have said on this thread goes against the values of this issue...... Peace, Love and freedom of expression. So as for me I think the mural is very weak as there is no substance to the message, which is being pimped by a bitter gallery owner and Artist trying at every step to get more publicity. Peace, Love and freedom of expression? |
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