swedishgirl
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by swedishgirl on Apr 14, 2008 14:54:44 GMT 1, Over hyped by this forum? The flippers rush to buy and now bargains galore to be had (if you like shitty comic book art or skulls and disney).
Over hyped by this forum? The flippers rush to buy and now bargains galore to be had (if you like shitty comic book art or skulls and disney).
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by manchestermike on Apr 14, 2008 14:55:37 GMT 1, You're in a good mood today
You're in a good mood today
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by Guest on Apr 14, 2008 14:57:12 GMT 1, (if you like s**tty comic book art or skulls and disney).
some of this forums favorite images ;D
(if you like s**tty comic book art or skulls and disney). some of this forums favorite images ;D
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swedishgirl
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by swedishgirl on Apr 14, 2008 15:00:15 GMT 1, You're in a good mood today
Sorry Mike... I just wanted a debate.
You're in a good mood today Sorry Mike... I just wanted a debate.
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by manchestermike on Apr 14, 2008 15:05:52 GMT 1, You're in a good mood today Sorry Mike... I just wanted a debate.
Let you off this time then ;D
You're in a good mood today Sorry Mike... I just wanted a debate. Let you off this time then ;D
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steve
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by steve on Apr 14, 2008 15:06:57 GMT 1, very strong sales in originals...imo I don't think they need any forum.
very strong sales in originals...imo I don't think they need any forum.
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pezlow
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by pezlow on Apr 14, 2008 15:09:38 GMT 1, There do seem to be a few OG's for sale at the moment at pretty reasonable prices. The one on ebay last night finished at £520 which I guess was below cost?
Personally I like Lister's art. There's some real fluidity about his characters which I really rate. I don't see too many disney characters or skulls in it, but I will give you the comic book element.
There do seem to be a few OG's for sale at the moment at pretty reasonable prices. The one on ebay last night finished at £520 which I guess was below cost?
Personally I like Lister's art. There's some real fluidity about his characters which I really rate. I don't see too many disney characters or skulls in it, but I will give you the comic book element.
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skanky
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by skanky on Apr 14, 2008 15:09:42 GMT 1, I dont even think Lister has been hyped by this forum. The ability to make an instant profit on a print should not be used as a judgement on an artists talent. I am fan of Lister and hope to add a canvas to my collection sometime soon . Paul at Elms for one thinks Lister is a serious talent who will be remembered and I would take his opinion over an ebay fliper any day.
I dont even think Lister has been hyped by this forum. The ability to make an instant profit on a print should not be used as a judgement on an artists talent. I am fan of Lister and hope to add a canvas to my collection sometime soon . Paul at Elms for one thinks Lister is a serious talent who will be remembered and I would take his opinion over an ebay fliper any day.
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by ricosg11 on Apr 14, 2008 15:12:07 GMT 1, I dont even think Lister has been hyped by this forum. The ability to make an instant profit on a print should not be used as a judgement on an artists talent. I am fan of Lister and hope to add a canvas to my collection sometime soon . Paul at Elms for one thinks Lister is a serious talent who will be remembered and I would take his opinion over an ebay fliper any day.
amen, maybe just have Anthony slow down with the output for a bit... Guy seems to be showing everywhere.
I dont even think Lister has been hyped by this forum. The ability to make an instant profit on a print should not be used as a judgement on an artists talent. I am fan of Lister and hope to add a canvas to my collection sometime soon . Paul at Elms for one thinks Lister is a serious talent who will be remembered and I would take his opinion over an ebay fliper any day. amen, maybe just have Anthony slow down with the output for a bit... Guy seems to be showing everywhere.
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steve
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by steve on Apr 14, 2008 15:12:46 GMT 1, There do seem to be a few OG's for sale at the moment at pretty reasonable prices. The one on ebay last night finished at £520 which I guess was below cost? Personally I like Lister's art. There's some real fluidity about his characters which I really rate. I don't see too many disney characters or skulls in it, but I will give you the comic book element.
thought that one sold on ebay was very weak. not surprised at the low price. I meant sales at source are very strong for both lister and baldwin.
There do seem to be a few OG's for sale at the moment at pretty reasonable prices. The one on ebay last night finished at £520 which I guess was below cost? Personally I like Lister's art. There's some real fluidity about his characters which I really rate. I don't see too many disney characters or skulls in it, but I will give you the comic book element. thought that one sold on ebay was very weak. not surprised at the low price. I meant sales at source are very strong for both lister and baldwin.
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by bobbymeachamjr on Apr 14, 2008 15:14:32 GMT 1, There do seem to be a few OG's for sale at the moment at pretty reasonable prices. The one on ebay last night finished at £520 which I guess was below cost? Personally I like Lister's art. There's some real fluidity about his characters which I really rate. I don't see too many disney characters or skulls in it, but I will give you the comic book element.
I like lister but I wouldn't have paid £250 for that cross + "foxx" doodle
There do seem to be a few OG's for sale at the moment at pretty reasonable prices. The one on ebay last night finished at £520 which I guess was below cost? Personally I like Lister's art. There's some real fluidity about his characters which I really rate. I don't see too many disney characters or skulls in it, but I will give you the comic book element. I like lister but I wouldn't have paid £250 for that cross + "foxx" doodle
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Bram
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by Bram on Apr 14, 2008 15:43:45 GMT 1, As Pez said in another thread, there seems to be a "artist of the month" frenzy going on and lister is sooooo last month. Sh*t, he maybe sooooo next month (better get on that stupidkrap site, what`d you say, his comeback isn't til june, few that's ok then, who's hot today? surely that trebleclef or whatever his name was, has got to be due for a comeback!
As Pez said in another thread, there seems to be a "artist of the month" frenzy going on and lister is sooooo last month. Sh*t, he maybe sooooo next month (better get on that stupidkrap site, what`d you say, his comeback isn't til june, few that's ok then, who's hot today? surely that trebleclef or whatever his name was, has got to be due for a comeback!
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robotoil
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by robotoil on Apr 14, 2008 15:54:23 GMT 1, That "Fox and Cross" box was some ugly shite. You honestly gonna rate Lister's work off that 1 piece?
That "Fox and Cross" box was some ugly shite. You honestly gonna rate Lister's work off that 1 piece?
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BME
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by BME on Apr 14, 2008 16:03:27 GMT 1, This sort of thread really irritates me. I'm not sure what people want sometimes. If an artists' work doubles in value overnight everyone complains that they can't afford them, if the works don't double in value overnight then they are dismissed as rubbish.
The problem is that we have people piling on these artists looking to turn an instant profit. It didn't work that way for Banksy or Neate or Walker to start with. Banksy pieces were available for years on Pictures on Walls and sold for cost (or less) on ebay. Until the Bonhams auction in February Nick Walker prints and canvases sat on his site for months. Dface canvases used to stay on his site for years; even a few months ago it was possible to buy a Cli Che on ebay for cost and a Neate street piece for under 1k; then all the 'fans' materialised.
Lister's work is some of the best I've seen- it's comparable in quality to Neate. I have no doubt that prices for his work will soon reflect that. In the meantime the longer that the flippers and investors stay away the better...
This sort of thread really irritates me. I'm not sure what people want sometimes. If an artists' work doubles in value overnight everyone complains that they can't afford them, if the works don't double in value overnight then they are dismissed as rubbish.
The problem is that we have people piling on these artists looking to turn an instant profit. It didn't work that way for Banksy or Neate or Walker to start with. Banksy pieces were available for years on Pictures on Walls and sold for cost (or less) on ebay. Until the Bonhams auction in February Nick Walker prints and canvases sat on his site for months. Dface canvases used to stay on his site for years; even a few months ago it was possible to buy a Cli Che on ebay for cost and a Neate street piece for under 1k; then all the 'fans' materialised.
Lister's work is some of the best I've seen- it's comparable in quality to Neate. I have no doubt that prices for his work will soon reflect that. In the meantime the longer that the flippers and investors stay away the better...
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solar77
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by solar77 on Apr 14, 2008 16:03:40 GMT 1, Lister doesn't need this board or this scene at all. He's travelling in many other circles of the art world right now. His print prices spiked due to hype on here and WK, but the strong sales of his originals have little to do with street art collectors.
Baldwin on the other hand...
Lister doesn't need this board or this scene at all. He's travelling in many other circles of the art world right now. His print prices spiked due to hype on here and WK, but the strong sales of his originals have little to do with street art collectors.
Baldwin on the other hand...
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skanky
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by skanky on Apr 14, 2008 16:06:14 GMT 1, This sort of thread really irritates me. I'm not sure what people want sometimes. If an artists' work doubles in value overnight everyone complains that they can't afford them, if the works don't double in value overnight then they are dismissed as rubbish. The problem is that we have people piling on these artists looking to turn an instant profit. It didn't work that way for Banksy or Neate or Walker to start with. Banksy pieces were available for years on Pictures on Walls and sold for cost (or less) on ebay. Until the Bonhams auction in February Nick Walker prints and canvases sat on his site for months. Dface canvases used to stay on his site for years; even a few months ago it was possible to buy a Cli Che on ebay for cost and a Neate street piece for under 1k; then all the 'fans' materialised. Lister's work is some of the best I've seen- it's comparable in quality to Neate. I have no doubt that prices for his work will soon reflect that. In the meantime the longer that the flippers and investors stay away the better...
Spot On
This sort of thread really irritates me. I'm not sure what people want sometimes. If an artists' work doubles in value overnight everyone complains that they can't afford them, if the works don't double in value overnight then they are dismissed as rubbish. The problem is that we have people piling on these artists looking to turn an instant profit. It didn't work that way for Banksy or Neate or Walker to start with. Banksy pieces were available for years on Pictures on Walls and sold for cost (or less) on ebay. Until the Bonhams auction in February Nick Walker prints and canvases sat on his site for months. Dface canvases used to stay on his site for years; even a few months ago it was possible to buy a Cli Che on ebay for cost and a Neate street piece for under 1k; then all the 'fans' materialised. Lister's work is some of the best I've seen- it's comparable in quality to Neate. I have no doubt that prices for his work will soon reflect that. In the meantime the longer that the flippers and investors stay away the better... Spot On
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Heavyconsumer
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by Heavyconsumer on Apr 14, 2008 16:21:33 GMT 1, I have never understood the art of Baldwin, or how it could have appealed to so many people.
I do really like Anthony's work though for the most part - very easy on the eye. I hope he keeps the editions small and that people don't start paying silly prices for his work. No, I haven't managed to buy from stupidkrap yet, but I will once the flippers have been lumbered with his work or sold it at cost and are no longer interested.
I have never understood the art of Baldwin, or how it could have appealed to so many people.
I do really like Anthony's work though for the most part - very easy on the eye. I hope he keeps the editions small and that people don't start paying silly prices for his work. No, I haven't managed to buy from stupidkrap yet, but I will once the flippers have been lumbered with his work or sold it at cost and are no longer interested.
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Bram
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by Bram on Apr 14, 2008 16:31:04 GMT 1, So, can someone tell me the meaning of successful. Answers on a postcard.
1) Recognition from a critic / media 2) Big auction price achieved 3) Originals sell out in days 4) Prints sell out in seconds and achieve a big flip value 5) Progressive pieces 6) Queue length at solo show 7) LA success 8) Damien Hirst wants you to manipulate his latest canvas. 9) It's on my wall and I really like it (even though the value has gone down) 10 ) You mum like it
So, can someone tell me the meaning of successful. Answers on a postcard.
1) Recognition from a critic / media 2) Big auction price achieved 3) Originals sell out in days 4) Prints sell out in seconds and achieve a big flip value 5) Progressive pieces 6) Queue length at solo show 7) LA success 8) Damien Hirst wants you to manipulate his latest canvas. 9) It's on my wall and I really like it (even though the value has gone down) 10 ) You mum like it
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by slowmo on Apr 14, 2008 16:31:40 GMT 1, I remain a massive Baldwin fan, love his work, there's something different yet knowing about it, really appeals to me. Lister is not my cup of tea, but think that he too is a good artist. So in terms of the question, because they cannot flip nicely on ebay, yes Lister is the new Baldwin.
I remain a massive Baldwin fan, love his work, there's something different yet knowing about it, really appeals to me. Lister is not my cup of tea, but think that he too is a good artist. So in terms of the question, because they cannot flip nicely on ebay, yes Lister is the new Baldwin.
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by giiiant on Apr 14, 2008 16:34:13 GMT 1, You're so wrong that it's literally painful to read
You're so wrong that it's literally painful to read
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Bram
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by Bram on Apr 14, 2008 16:34:36 GMT 1, Did somebody forget to plug in the hype machine!
Did somebody forget to plug in the hype machine!
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by Montubu7 on Apr 14, 2008 16:36:31 GMT 1, So, can someone tell me the meaning of successful. Answers on a postcard. 1) Recognition from a critic / media 2) Big auction price achieved 3) Originals sell out in days 4) Prints sell out in seconds and achieve a big flip value 5) Progressive pieces 6) Queue length at solo show 7) LA success 8) Damien Hirst wants you to manipulate his latest canvas. 9) It's on my wall and I really like it (even though the value has gone down) 10 ) You mum like it
Missed #11
11) popularity based on location of forum link on banksy.info Top - flaour of the month Bottom - uuugh what flavour
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So, can someone tell me the meaning of successful. Answers on a postcard. 1) Recognition from a critic / media 2) Big auction price achieved 3) Originals sell out in days 4) Prints sell out in seconds and achieve a big flip value 5) Progressive pieces 6) Queue length at solo show 7) LA success 8) Damien Hirst wants you to manipulate his latest canvas. 9) It's on my wall and I really like it (even though the value has gone down) 10 ) You mum like it Missed #11 11) popularity based on location of forum link on banksy.info Top - flaour of the month Bottom - uuugh what flavour ;D
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Bram
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by Bram on Apr 14, 2008 16:40:12 GMT 1, So, can someone tell me the meaning of successful. Answers on a postcard. 1) Recognition from a critic / media 2) Big auction price achieved 3) Originals sell out in days 4) Prints sell out in seconds and achieve a big flip value 5) Progressive pieces 6) Queue length at solo show 7) LA success 8) Damien Hirst wants you to manipulate his latest canvas. 9) It's on my wall and I really like it (even though the value has gone down) 10 ) You mum like it Missed #11 11) popularity based on location of forum link on banksy.info Top - flaour of the month Bottom - uuugh what flavour ;D
Prawn cocktail ?
So, can someone tell me the meaning of successful. Answers on a postcard. 1) Recognition from a critic / media 2) Big auction price achieved 3) Originals sell out in days 4) Prints sell out in seconds and achieve a big flip value 5) Progressive pieces 6) Queue length at solo show 7) LA success 8) Damien Hirst wants you to manipulate his latest canvas. 9) It's on my wall and I really like it (even though the value has gone down) 10 ) You mum like it Missed #11 11) popularity based on location of forum link on banksy.info Top - flaour of the month Bottom - uuugh what flavour ;D Prawn cocktail ?
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by slowmo on Apr 14, 2008 16:40:14 GMT 1, Someone posted a very good measure for success on here once. its the 200 rule. If you have 200 devoted fans who will buy anything you produce, you can then live off of the proceeds to concentrate on your art, those 200 will influence others and you will achieve more success. Drop below and its back to the day job before too long
Someone posted a very good measure for success on here once. its the 200 rule. If you have 200 devoted fans who will buy anything you produce, you can then live off of the proceeds to concentrate on your art, those 200 will influence others and you will achieve more success. Drop below and its back to the day job before too long
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Bram
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by Bram on Apr 14, 2008 16:42:06 GMT 1, Lister doesn't need this board or this scene at all. He's travelling in many other circles of the art world right now. His print prices spiked due to hype on here and WK, but the strong sales of his originals have little to do with street art collectors. Baldwin on the other hand...
Mr lister is always on the lister forum, so he must have some need for it ;D
Lister doesn't need this board or this scene at all. He's travelling in many other circles of the art world right now. His print prices spiked due to hype on here and WK, but the strong sales of his originals have little to do with street art collectors. Baldwin on the other hand... Mr lister is always on the lister forum, so he must have some need for it ;D
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Bram
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by Bram on Apr 14, 2008 16:46:00 GMT 1, Someone posted a very good measure for success on here once. its the 200 rule. If you have 200 devoted fans who will buy anything you produce, you can then live off of the proceeds to concentrate on your art, those 200 will influence others and you will achieve more success. Drop below and its back to the day job before too long
1st time I have heard that, it makes sense. 200 prints @ £250 each x 4 releases a year @ 50% return = £100k plus a few originals and a Nike sneaker deal, plus commissions and a dirty funker LP! Result! ;D
Someone posted a very good measure for success on here once. its the 200 rule. If you have 200 devoted fans who will buy anything you produce, you can then live off of the proceeds to concentrate on your art, those 200 will influence others and you will achieve more success. Drop below and its back to the day job before too long 1st time I have heard that, it makes sense. 200 prints @ £250 each x 4 releases a year @ 50% return = £100k plus a few originals and a Nike sneaker deal, plus commissions and a dirty funker LP! Result! ;D
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Heavyconsumer
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by Heavyconsumer on Apr 14, 2008 16:51:34 GMT 1, I read that 200 rule too and it did make good sense, also taking into account that there will be many other "fans" buying ocassionally, but if the core die-harders remain loyal and you look after them properly, then a good living will always be there for the making. I liked that article too.
I read that 200 rule too and it did make good sense, also taking into account that there will be many other "fans" buying ocassionally, but if the core die-harders remain loyal and you look after them properly, then a good living will always be there for the making. I liked that article too.
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by arcam on Apr 14, 2008 16:57:52 GMT 1, Mr lister is always on the lister forum, so he must have some need for it ;D Not really........just comes on to answer any questions.
Mr lister is always on the lister forum, so he must have some need for it ;D Not really........just comes on to answer any questions.
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artstylee
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by artstylee on Apr 14, 2008 18:43:51 GMT 1, Who the F is Baldwin???
If you can't see why the work of Lister is important you need to reasses what is "Good" art. And stop hating on someone who's accomplished more as an artist then you ever will typing on your computer.
Large moving pieces. A Unique Consistant style that fills a large gallery spaces with new ideas. = Excellent Art.
Who the F is Baldwin? ?? If you can't see why the work of Lister is important you need to reasses what is "Good" art. And stop hating on someone who's accomplished more as an artist then you ever will typing on your computer. Large moving pieces. A Unique Consistant style that fills a large gallery spaces with new ideas. = Excellent Art.
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Is Lister the new Baldwin?, by ollys on Apr 14, 2008 18:58:34 GMT 1, Lister is here to stay and Dans work will continue to sell steadily for the long term.
Infact its these type of artists that have longevity and not overhyped fly by night characters that maybe extremely popular short term.
Lister is here to stay and Dans work will continue to sell steadily for the long term.
Infact its these type of artists that have longevity and not overhyped fly by night characters that maybe extremely popular short term.
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