Grafter - 'Splash' Paper edition release

[bmjt]

How do you know he is a kid? Will he please clear up the confusion and tell us how old he is.

16 or 17,

Yes Cartrain is a kid

www.youtube.com/user/cartrain

Maybe you should both stop fighting and have a dance off (a stencil art war would burn peoples eyes I fear). For charity of course.

Cartrain bombing trains is the funniest shiz I ever saw. Grafter's new splash piece at Cans festival feels like an advertisement, horrible.

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Stencil artists street dance war, coming to a venue near you soon

[Wizzy]

Just laughed so much at that video i was nearly sick, ;D (but was not actually sick).Does it have talking on it? shall i put the sound on?

[coach]

That was sooo funny - lol.
Nearly as good as the gay referee!

[taxidermot]

this is nuts in a nutsy nut nut sort of way
how many readers..
nuts

[CancerSell]

Adding my opinion here.....

^5 to Grafter for getting out there and actually challenging what stencil art is about over Eastside London these days. He cuts a friggin good stencil and is very imaginative with each piece thats delivered. Grafter has become a very good and valued friend of mine and has worked 100x what some of these big boys ride off. He should be proud of himself.

As for Cartrain..... likes to get up, but half the stencils I have seen have been cribbed from stencils/images online. He still has a lot to learn but there is potential. Good on him in getting out there, the councils do have a problem buffing the spray off leaving 9x out of 10 times a ghost image!

The proof is in the pudding tho ..... good luck to both of them and lets see this charity print that cartrain has promised. Who knows, it might raise millions?!

We who have replied to this thread should be ashamed of ourselves though. Urban art requires a close community where we look after each other, encourage and find new challenges that inspire. Its the galleries and big boys out there who have ruined the community feel by encouraging price wars over art that has been created beacuse the artists likes to paint! Come on, for gods sake, lets stick together for a change!

[savilerogue]

Sept 2, 2008 13:50:29 GMT 1 CancerSell said:

Its the galleries and big boys out there who have ruined the community feel by encouraging price wars over art that has been created beacuse the artists likes to paint! Come on, for gods sake, lets stick together for a change!

Does Cartrain sell canvases for £250 - through a 'gallery' - because he 'likes to paint' then?

[edcase]

Anyone recieved their grafter piece yet?

[CancerSell]

Sept 2, 2008 14:29:26 GMT 1 savilerogue said:

Sept 2, 2008 13:50:29 GMT 1 CancerSell said:

Its the galleries and big boys out there who have ruined the community feel by encouraging price wars over art that has been created beacuse the artists likes to paint! Come on, for gods sake, lets stick together for a change!

Does Cartrain sell canvases for £250 - through a 'gallery' - because he 'likes to paint' then?

I would imagine so.... why else would he paint?

[savilerogue]

Sept 2, 2008 15:43:32 GMT 1 CancerSell said:

Sept 2, 2008 14:29:26 GMT 1 savilerogue said:

Does Cartrain sell canvases for £250 - through a 'gallery' - because he 'likes to paint' then?

I would imagine so.... why else would he paint?

Not to make money, then, by jumping on a bandwagon?

[timba82]

Sept 2, 2008 14:30:39 GMT 1 edcase said:

Anyone recieved their grafter piece yet?

yeh....got mine yesterday as i met him in london to collect it.
they are awsome in the flesh and its gona look the dogs danglys on my wall.

Grafter is a gentleman and a pleasure to do business with.

keep it up mate

[mj]

Not yet

[romanywg]

Sept 2, 2008 15:53:42 GMT 1 savilerogue said:

Sept 2, 2008 15:43:32 GMT 1 CancerSell said:

I would imagine so.... why else would he paint?

Not to make money, then, by jumping on a bandwagon?

Cartrain has been painting walls a long time before Grafter so who are you saying is jumping on the bandwagon savilerogue?

[savilerogue]

Sept 2, 2008 17:40:14 GMT 1 romanywg said:

Sept 2, 2008 15:53:42 GMT 1 savilerogue said:

Not to make money, then, by jumping on a bandwagon?

Cartrain has been painting walls a long time before Grafter so who are you saying is jumping on the bandwagon savilerogue?

I'm sure that he has, but CancerSell wrote

CancerSell said:

Its the galleries and big boys out there who have ruined the community feel by encouraging price wars over art that has been created beacuse the artists likes to paint!

I'm not taking sides with Grafter - as I said earlier in the thread, I think their work is as weak as each other - but Cartrain's selling woeful canvases @ £250 a pop through a 'gallery' before he's even developed anything of merit. Let's be honest - his main claim to fame is putting up poor stencils next to Banksy's. I'm sure he's a nice guy, but he is part of the problem mentioned by CancerSell - not part of the solution. That's all in my humble opinion of course.

[romanywg]

No I'm with you there.

[Run Pig Run]

while you two numptys were argueing about who does the most for charity and whos got the biggest willy someone else was doing some mindbendingly amazing stencils....


not for sale.

[edcase]

Sept 2, 2008 18:53:23 GMT 1 Run Pig Run said:

not for sale.

Yet.

My splash just turned up, lovely paper quality, and lovely thick red paint splats! Great piece, I have a nice frame idea for this one

[timba82]

nice arent they.....my blue one is at the framers already.....cant wait to have it up along side some long over due other bits

I have always though Cartrain has a great deal of potential. The variety of stuff this kid does shows he means to try, but to grapple with Grafter at this early stage could be a unwise move.
Interested to see his 'Masterpiece' on display though.