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Post by ninja on Nov 2, 2009 23:31:44 GMT 1
still up.. ed. of only 100.. this is surprising, for me at least.. as seems to be the case with a lot of d*face prints there are a lot of proofs too. edition of 100 with 28 proofs... |
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Post by Guest on Nov 2, 2009 23:34:36 GMT 1
Can't believe he set up another account to pimp his prints on the giant forum. Not @ all surprised these are still available. His business practice is shocking to say the least. |
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Post by artso on Nov 2, 2009 23:51:51 GMT 1
I think this would have gone if it didn't have the weak typography at the top - completely ruins it. I agree...would have bought it immediately without the typography...def ruins it for me |
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Post by Guest on Nov 3, 2009 0:00:13 GMT 1
No way I'd be shelling out 300 quid on this. They'll be 200 on ebay in no time (if they show up in the first place!). JSG got kicked of Obey forum AGAIN yesterday!! Just too dodgy.
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Post by onetrickpony on Nov 3, 2009 0:03:34 GMT 1
I'm in two minds, I really like it in one respect but something is stopping me from pulling the trigger.
It was the most popular/spoken about image at the show, but the fact it's not really going anywhere says either the works at that show had more a novelty value than any real depth (novelty runs out quickly) or this image was just the 'best of a bad bunch'...
Pure speculation of course and not an opinion I hold personally.
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Post by meatbag on Nov 3, 2009 0:27:13 GMT 1
silky you do see good in people to a fault I suppose, but this guy is not one of good ones and as much as I'd love to pull the trigger on this I'm not knowing that toolbag is part of it. That just ruins it for me. For anyone who goes for it.. good luck. I wonder who owns the original because this piece was sold long before opening night. Maybe D hooked someone up.
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Post by love on Nov 3, 2009 0:45:50 GMT 1
Iwill pass on this one, i loved the punk queen but i can't imagine a simpsons part on my wall.
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Post by fielder on Nov 3, 2009 10:00:07 GMT 1
I think this would have gone if it didn't have the weak typography at the top - completely ruins it. I agree...would have bought it immediately without the typography...def ruins it for me +1 |
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Post by cocteau101 on Nov 3, 2009 17:51:28 GMT 1
D's involved, in fact he's in LA as rumoured so for those that have doubts this may be a little more reassuring.
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Post by Guest on Nov 3, 2009 18:32:33 GMT 1
No way I'd be shelling out 300 quid on this. They'll be 200 on ebay in no time (if they show up in the first place!). JSG got kicked of Obey forum AGAIN yesterday!! Just too dodgy. Oh really? What for, ripping people off from before or again? |
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Post by Guest on Nov 3, 2009 18:46:06 GMT 1
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Post by jimbo73 on Nov 3, 2009 23:48:25 GMT 1
still up.. ed. of only 100.. this is surprising, for me at least.. as seems to be the case with a lot of d*face prints there are a lot of proofs too. edition of 100 with 28 proofs... That will be the numbered proofs. God only knows how many un-numbered ones he will be punting through Stolen Space as he did with the Pop Tarts. Then there are the PP's, gift prints etc etc etc.... |
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Post by Guest on Nov 4, 2009 0:11:12 GMT 1
if this was through another gallery would of it sold out ? or isit down to the image/price etc
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Post by onetrickpony on Nov 4, 2009 0:38:27 GMT 1
It all measures down to...
Over 100 people liking this image enough to frame it (its to big to be kept in folder).
Over 100 people having the cash to afford the hefty framing.
Over 100 people having a wall big enough to house it.
Over 100 people trusting it will get here from the states in one piece.
Over 100 people trusting it will get here at all.
The odds are well against this selling out quick me thinks...
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Post by pfffffffffft on Nov 4, 2009 3:59:57 GMT 1
It all measures down to... Over 100 people liking this image enough to frame it (its to big to be kept in folder). Over 100 people having the cash to afford the hefty framing. Over 100 people having a wall big enough to house it. Over 100 people trusting it will get here from the states in one piece. Over 100 people trusting it will get here at all. The odds are well against this selling out quick me thinks... Even D*s weakest images sell out quick, this was one of the most popular images from the show...I think it's a much bigger issue of trusting the seller than the image, image size, or framing. |
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Post by howies on Nov 4, 2009 4:04:07 GMT 1
I really like the image but after reading all the Drama with Jetset I just can't bring myself to pay for the idea that this could go all wrong. I have carted this 3 times now and then my better judgement takes over and I drop it, D*face should list them thru his own site and they would have all gone by now
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Post by packet on Nov 4, 2009 6:02:54 GMT 1
I really like the image but after reading all the Drama with Jetset I just can't bring myself to pay for the idea that this could go all wrong. I have carted this 3 times now and then my better judgement takes over and I drop it, D*face should list them thru his own site and they would have all gone by now I've been doing the same thing. I like the print, but I'm not about to support JSG after everything I've heard about the outfit. Looks like I'll save the cash for the next Banksy print. |
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Post by Guest on Nov 4, 2009 6:48:02 GMT 1
Why the f**k would you do a print with someone that no one trusts?
It confuses me.
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Post by Signed And Numbered Studios on Nov 4, 2009 7:23:29 GMT 1
Why the f**k would you do a print with someone that no one trusts? It confuses me. yea, i don't understand the need for Dface to release through JSG... he has so many credible contacts in the states. Hopefully they will do a coke riot through BRP or someone else. |
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Post by Guest on Nov 4, 2009 8:10:18 GMT 1
Jonathan Levine for instance.
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Post by amin on Nov 4, 2009 15:16:50 GMT 1
still up?
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Post by nex on Nov 4, 2009 15:30:51 GMT 1
It all measures down to... Over 100 people liking this image enough to frame it (its to big to be kept in folder). Over 100 people having the cash to afford the hefty framing. Over 100 people having a wall big enough to house it. Over 100 people trusting it will get here from the states in one piece. Over 100 people trusting it will get here at all. The odds are well against this selling out quick me thinks... Even D*s weakest images sell out quick, this was one of the most popular images from the show...I think it's a much bigger issue of trusting the seller than the image, image size, or framing. I have to wholeheartedly disagree with this being a strong image, you ever slooshed coke/pepsi around in your mouth for a minute? Well this print is like that, sweet and addictive for the instant rush. once that subsides you're left with an emotionless shyte tasting embodiement of manipulation and marketing the cold hard truth at the centre of this, it would have sold out if the majority of purchasers thought it was worth more on the secondary market, therefore making it a worthy investment, all the talk of framing costs etc etc would only be relevant to a small handful in reality |
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Post by pfffffffffft on Nov 4, 2009 15:47:09 GMT 1
Even D*s weakest images sell out quick, this was one of the most popular images from the show...I think it's a much bigger issue of trusting the seller than the image, image size, or framing. I have to wholeheartedly disagree with this being a strong image, you ever slooshed coke/pepsi around in your mouth for a minute? Well this print is like that, sweet and addictive for the instant rush. once that subsides you're left with an emotionless shyte tasting embodiement of manipulation and marketing the cold hard truth at the centre of this, it would have sold out if the majority of purchasers thought it was worth more on the secondary market, therefore making it a worthy investment, all the talk of framing costs etc etc would only be relevant to a small handful in reality Well, we can disagree on the quality of the image but looking at the levine web site it appears that all but 2 from that series are gone and at 20K+ per again I'd suggest that style was popular. There are many on this board who arent interesting in flipping it but just interested in owning it so although I understand your point regarding the secondary market, the truth is many who would purchase this for themselves are on the sidelines because of JetSet's involvement. The secondary market is sort of moot if you never actually get the print that you pay for. If D* were to sell it, or stolen space, or BRP...this would have been gone. |
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Post by nex on Nov 4, 2009 15:51:17 GMT 1
print and originals markets are completely different beasts and can't be compared at all. Maybe they would have maybe they wouldn't have sold out, i'd suggest that the last sold out dface release the truly awful punk queen thing was the nail in d's fast selling releases as can be seen by the number flipped and the amounts these went for
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Post by pfffffffffft on Nov 4, 2009 15:58:55 GMT 1
print and originals markets are completely different beasts and can't be compared at all. Maybe they would have maybe they wouldn't have sold out, i'd suggest that the last sold out dface release the truly awful punk queen thing was the nail in d's fast selling releases as can be seen by the number flipped and the amounts these went for Well then, you could say that for all artists in this genre right now except Banksy, the secondary market is pretty much in the toilet for the most part and I dont think that is specific to D* but if you have other examples (other than banksy of course) in which a recent print has done well on the secondary market then I'm all ears. |
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Post by nex on Nov 4, 2009 16:01:08 GMT 1
yep i'd agree and one of the reasons, this forum is much quieter these days (apart from when there's a Banksy release)
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Post by goaty on Nov 4, 2009 16:20:39 GMT 1
print and originals markets are completely different beasts and can't be compared at all. Maybe they would have maybe they wouldn't have sold out, i'd suggest that the last sold out dface release the truly awful punk queen thing was the nail in d's fast selling releases as can be seen by the number flipped and the amounts these went for Well then, you could say that for all artists in this genre right now except Banksy, the secondary market is pretty much in the toilet for the most part and I dont think that is specific to D* but if you have other examples (other than banksy of course) in which a recent print has done well on the secondary market then I'm all ears. I'd probably say that certain Nick Walker prints have a secondary market. TMA Empire State released Jan 2009 @ £500, now selling for £1500. |
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Post by G-Man on Nov 4, 2009 17:00:02 GMT 1
Just a quick post to thank all of you that posted warnings on this print on this thread
+1
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Post by pfffffffffft on Nov 4, 2009 17:25:16 GMT 1
Well then, you could say that for all artists in this genre right now except Banksy, the secondary market is pretty much in the toilet for the most part and I dont think that is specific to D* but if you have other examples (other than banksy of course) in which a recent print has done well on the secondary market then I'm all ears. I'd probably say that certain Nick Walker prints have a secondary market. TMA Empire State released Jan 2009 @ £500, now selling for £1500. But that's been almost a year now, the poster I was responding to was talking about a print release from September (I think) that ended up on Ebay days later. I think that was the context we were discussing his assertion of the secondary market proving an artists worth/value in this current climate. |
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Post by Daniel Silk on Nov 4, 2009 17:42:05 GMT 1
Yeah, would be nice to see some close ups of the print  and a few shots to give people a better idea of the size. |
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