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Micallef at the Tate, by AoT Framing on Oct 2, 2008 11:42:35 GMT 1, Anybody seen this? Look's amazing up close, wish I'd had the cash to buy one at the time. Managed to snap this before being asked to stop taking photo's by a large security guard!
Anybody seen this? Look's amazing up close, wish I'd had the cash to buy one at the time. Managed to snap this before being asked to stop taking photo's by a large security guard! |
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Micallef at the Tate, by mammal2 on Oct 2, 2008 11:44:54 GMT 1, cool!
cool!
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gozgoz
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Micallef at the Tate, by gozgoz on Oct 2, 2008 12:03:32 GMT 1, tate modern?
tate modern?
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Micallef at the Tate, by dotdot on Oct 2, 2008 12:05:31 GMT 1,
pesky kids.... with cameras....
thatโs the tate for you...
..tut tut (shame on them).
pesky kids.... with cameras....
thatโs the tate for you...
..tut tut (shame on them).
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Micallef at the Tate, by Deleted on Oct 2, 2008 12:06:29 GMT 1, pesky kids.... with cameras.... thatโs the tate for you... ..tut tut (shame on them).
Think of them as an installation.
pesky kids.... with cameras.... thatโs the tate for you... ..tut tut (shame on them). Think of them as an installation. |
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Neate Michael
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Micallef at the Tate, by Neate Michael on Oct 2, 2008 13:57:13 GMT 1, I saw this last week. Had to say I was completely underwhelmed, felt the print was too dark, very little contrast and I didn't like the image much. For 2.5k you could probably get a dirty deluxe which is much nicer!
I saw this last week. Had to say I was completely underwhelmed, felt the print was too dark, very little contrast and I didn't like the image much. For 2.5k you could probably get a dirty deluxe which is much nicer!
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themightyreds
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Micallef at the Tate, by themightyreds on Oct 3, 2008 0:17:19 GMT 1, I went up to the curwen studio today to collect one of these prints.
Have to say they are a truly fantastic studio, and nice people too!
This is at the Tate Britain until january i think, along with a some sketches and other stuff from the curwen studio celebrating their 50th year.
I didn't fancy chancing this print with royal mail (understandably) so asked if i could collect when i purchased and was told no problem, come along and we'll give you a little tour of the studio and explain how this print was put together.
nice.
When i arrived i was introduced to their master printer who showed me a drawer full of these beauties before walking me around the studio explaining what all the different presses they had there were used for.
One of the other staff was exposing a plate while we were there so he talked us through the process and then we watched as it was washed down then put in the drier.
There was another guy printing on one of the two large lithographic presses that were used for this micallef piece so we could see exactly what goes into making a print this way. After each pass the plate is wet with an old sponge and checked, then inked (if needed), then the roller is passed over it and back onto the paper. He said they always print more than double the final run amount so they can hand pick the most exact copies for the final numbered edition.
This micallef is made up of 14 individual plates.
All but one were hand drawn by mr micallef in the print studio in response to how his original drawing of the bridge and gherkin/swiss re went onto the paper as the first layer of ink.
As each new layer was made the existing ones were tweaked then re-proofed etc.
This process took 4 whole days.
There was a drawer full of test prints showing how different bits were added/changed as the run progressed, as well as lots of his original sketches that were used as part of the final composition.
There was even a folder containing all of the original drawings and some small oil paintings that were used in this piece that were waiting to be collected by the artist for him to keep.
Was an absolute privilege to see, smell (and touch!) all these items. Pieces that may never see the light of day again, or might end up featuring in some future piece?
Never before have i had such an insight into a print or piece of art that i own and it was great to see that craftsmanship of this kind still exists, and the results that are possible.
I asked what was to happen to all of the sketches and plates used in the production and was told that once the edition has been sent out completely they are all scratched, then torn, and then destroyed, or recycled in the case of the aluminium printing plates.
The master printer told me it was a devastating part of his job doing this, especially in the case of this micallef print, and that rarely do artists work so closely with the printers in this way.
But he said it was necessary to protect the integrity of the editionn and also to make sure they didn't end up on ebay!
After the tour he also showed me some original 60's limestones that were old lithographic plates used before the technology of light exposure on to the aluminium, one of which had rolf harris on, and also let us browse through the drying racks of stuff they'd recently printed.
Interestingly there was a micallef peacekeeper print on the drying rack...
He said it was there because they were having to do some re-prints of the edition.
I wish i hadn't seen this because i'm now thinking of how i can afford to get one....!
Haven't yet unrolled my print but when its nice and safely flattened out i'll get some close ups photos of bits i remember seeing that were changed through the process and then try to explain the changes.
I went up to the curwen studio today to collect one of these prints.
Have to say they are a truly fantastic studio, and nice people too!
This is at the Tate Britain until january i think, along with a some sketches and other stuff from the curwen studio celebrating their 50th year.
I didn't fancy chancing this print with royal mail (understandably) so asked if i could collect when i purchased and was told no problem, come along and we'll give you a little tour of the studio and explain how this print was put together.
nice.
When i arrived i was introduced to their master printer who showed me a drawer full of these beauties before walking me around the studio explaining what all the different presses they had there were used for.
One of the other staff was exposing a plate while we were there so he talked us through the process and then we watched as it was washed down then put in the drier.
There was another guy printing on one of the two large lithographic presses that were used for this micallef piece so we could see exactly what goes into making a print this way. After each pass the plate is wet with an old sponge and checked, then inked (if needed), then the roller is passed over it and back onto the paper. He said they always print more than double the final run amount so they can hand pick the most exact copies for the final numbered edition.
This micallef is made up of 14 individual plates.
All but one were hand drawn by mr micallef in the print studio in response to how his original drawing of the bridge and gherkin/swiss re went onto the paper as the first layer of ink.
As each new layer was made the existing ones were tweaked then re-proofed etc.
This process took 4 whole days.
There was a drawer full of test prints showing how different bits were added/changed as the run progressed, as well as lots of his original sketches that were used as part of the final composition.
There was even a folder containing all of the original drawings and some small oil paintings that were used in this piece that were waiting to be collected by the artist for him to keep.
Was an absolute privilege to see, smell (and touch!) all these items. Pieces that may never see the light of day again, or might end up featuring in some future piece?
Never before have i had such an insight into a print or piece of art that i own and it was great to see that craftsmanship of this kind still exists, and the results that are possible.
I asked what was to happen to all of the sketches and plates used in the production and was told that once the edition has been sent out completely they are all scratched, then torn, and then destroyed, or recycled in the case of the aluminium printing plates.
The master printer told me it was a devastating part of his job doing this, especially in the case of this micallef print, and that rarely do artists work so closely with the printers in this way.
But he said it was necessary to protect the integrity of the editionn and also to make sure they didn't end up on ebay!
After the tour he also showed me some original 60's limestones that were old lithographic plates used before the technology of light exposure on to the aluminium, one of which had rolf harris on, and also let us browse through the drying racks of stuff they'd recently printed.
Interestingly there was a micallef peacekeeper print on the drying rack...
He said it was there because they were having to do some re-prints of the edition.
I wish i hadn't seen this because i'm now thinking of how i can afford to get one....!
Haven't yet unrolled my print but when its nice and safely flattened out i'll get some close ups photos of bits i remember seeing that were changed through the process and then try to explain the changes.
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Micallef at the Tate, by Guest on Oct 3, 2008 0:25:29 GMT 1, very nice post mate. thanks for the insight.
very nice post mate. thanks for the insight.
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themightyreds
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Micallef at the Tate, by themightyreds on Oct 3, 2008 0:41:55 GMT 1, cheers Ron.
forgot to mention that they also sorted me out with the edition number of my choice.
Good people indeed!
cheers Ron.
forgot to mention that they also sorted me out with the edition number of my choice.
Good people indeed!
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Micallef at the Tate, by Guest on Oct 3, 2008 0:46:36 GMT 1, that is one special print you have there. enjoy it mate!
that is one special print you have there. enjoy it mate!
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themightyreds
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Micallef at the Tate, by themightyreds on Oct 3, 2008 0:59:36 GMT 1, I shall do amigo!
Just got to find some cash then its off to the framers!!
I shall do amigo!
Just got to find some cash then its off to the framers!!
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Simon
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Micallef at the Tate, by Simon on Oct 3, 2008 8:18:54 GMT 1, Thank you for the excellent post sounds like a great day out...
Thank you for the excellent post sounds like a great day out...
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Micallef at the Tate, by craigf on Oct 3, 2008 8:35:49 GMT 1, Great story re your tour of the printers. An experience like that will add so much more to your enjoyment of the print as you know exactly what went into making it
Great story re your tour of the printers. An experience like that will add so much more to your enjoyment of the print as you know exactly what went into making it
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bert
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Micallef at the Tate, by bert on Oct 3, 2008 8:44:49 GMT 1, Cool post themightyreds, a good read. Cheers! Looking forward to the photos of the print when it flattens out.
Cool post themightyreds, a good read. Cheers! Looking forward to the photos of the print when it flattens out.
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Micallef at the Tate, by Bram on Oct 3, 2008 9:22:45 GMT 1, Great post themightyreds. Be nice to see one framed better than that crap frame at the tate.
Great post themightyreds. Be nice to see one framed better than that crap frame at the tate.
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Neate Michael
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Micallef at the Tate, by Neate Michael on Oct 3, 2008 9:27:46 GMT 1, Nice post. I still think the print is not one of Mic's best, and I am a fan, but having seen it in the flesh I was somewhat underwhelmed.
Nice post. I still think the print is not one of Mic's best, and I am a fan, but having seen it in the flesh I was somewhat underwhelmed.
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themightyreds
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Micallef at the Tate, by themightyreds on Oct 3, 2008 9:40:37 GMT 1, Great post themightyreds. Be nice to see one framed better than that crap frame at the tate.
cheers bram.
I'm undecided about the framing on this. Usually i play it safe and use a white box frame with white mount but feel this print deserves a bit more of a custom frame-job.
I have a large ornate frame (currently gold with an Applause in) that i might use for this.
Was thinking about getting it sprayed a deep, dark grey and using a black mount board to float the print on. It isn't deckle-edged (apparently micallef prefers his prints trimmed), but the imagery goes up to and off the edges of the paper so i don't think window mounting is an option for it.
Either way i need to save to get it done as this plus a couple of other bits recently has totally cleaned me out!
Great post themightyreds. Be nice to see one framed better than that crap frame at the tate. cheers bram. I'm undecided about the framing on this. Usually i play it safe and use a white box frame with white mount but feel this print deserves a bit more of a custom frame-job. I have a large ornate frame (currently gold with an Applause in) that i might use for this. Was thinking about getting it sprayed a deep, dark grey and using a black mount board to float the print on. It isn't deckle-edged (apparently micallef prefers his prints trimmed), but the imagery goes up to and off the edges of the paper so i don't think window mounting is an option for it. Either way i need to save to get it done as this plus a couple of other bits recently has totally cleaned me out! |
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Micallef at the Tate, by daz205 on Oct 3, 2008 14:08:55 GMT 1, sorry why was there a peacekeeper drying? is it an alternitive edition, a poster or some other reason?
sorry why was there a peacekeeper drying? is it an alternitive edition, a poster or some other reason?
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themightyreds
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Micallef at the Tate, by themightyreds on Oct 3, 2008 16:27:41 GMT 1, sorry why was there a peacekeeper drying? is it an alternitive edition, a poster or some other reason?
I was told it was a reprint.
It was by no means in perfect, or perhaps even a sale-able condition as it had bends imprinted from the drying rack, plus some comments marked on it in pencil and was on an un-trimmed sheet.
Still looked fantastic to me though!
sorry why was there a peacekeeper drying? is it an alternitive edition, a poster or some other reason? I was told it was a reprint. It was by no means in perfect, or perhaps even a sale-able condition as it had bends imprinted from the drying rack, plus some comments marked on it in pencil and was on an un-trimmed sheet. Still looked fantastic to me though! |
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Micallef at the Tate, by worlddomination on Oct 3, 2008 16:32:56 GMT 1, How many is the edition of this print?
How many is the edition of this print?
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Micallef at the Tate, by worlddomination on Oct 3, 2008 16:36:31 GMT 1, I remembered 50 thanks to me
I remembered 50 thanks to me
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