D*Face Website HACKED Again!

Jun 14, 2008 12:12:32 GMT 1 thebleedingedge said:

The scene has been hijacked by money.. some of us are still doing our thing though. I find it hilarious that all the people who fought in d*faces corner last time were near the top of his mailing list... the funniest bit is how the artists you put so much energy in protecting call you rich mugs and use you as nothing more than a catalyst of hype to serve their own purposes. You're calling me sad here but they're calling you sad to my face, put it in perspective. If you don't get it, you weren't supposed to.. simple as.

Graffiti never made sense to people like you before it had big f**k off dollar signs attached to it's forehead, and ever since you felt like you somehow had some say over the whole thing.. wrong.



We do everything you don't, we know these people, you don't. You have no insight into the why's or how's because you couldn't do the stuff we do even if you wanted to. I've got more than enough evidence to support my case, what do you have? Nothing but the little crumbs your favourite artist gives you to keep you on the hook and then you sit on the internet all day talking s**t. Don't believe the hype.

You have allowed this whole thing to be turned into an internet game, where if an artist can get some people in london who are on the internet talking about them like they are up or prolific, then everyone elsewhere just assumes it's true. Talk about hijacking... luckily for us though, we can adapt and play this game too.

For those of you who still don't get it... I know how to make it all make sense to you.. so I will be making 3 limited print runs of the D* hack, clown aggy, yuppie aggy and of course the last hit. You know where to find my email.

Nice to see you making such sweeping assumptions that you have been so quick to criticize as shortsighted in many of your other posts.
I for one don't see the need to justify my credentials or motivations behind my love of street art, maybe if we all wear a badge showing how long we have followed people writing on the streets then we can join your gang of those who are allowed a valid opinion.
I also am no huge fan of D-Face, I don't find his work appealing and consider it good graphic design, no more no less. But I do respect that he has a following, and I also respect his right to earn a living and build a website. To hack into his site twice on the basis of his success is a small minded, and limited in effectiveness. Maybe it's the only way whoever has done so can draw any attention to their own work, as it clearly can't stand up on it's own merits.
Get over yourself and your resentment at other artists success. You've yet to have the balls to put your own work up - it may be fantastic it may be awful, I just don't know.
Whilst you seem to find the time to coat off all and sundry on here you can't find the time to post images of your work. I suggest that actions speak louder than words get something up that you've put up on the street and get the debate back to that.

[thebleedingedge]

Haha, Jon, the only stuff you would have seen was the stupid shoreditch hits we did because people like you don't look outside of shoreditch, that campaign was pretty funny because we absolutely made everything up as we went, we ended up getting in 4 papers, 2 gallery shots, 2 telivision programmes and magazines and all with the dumbest hits using leftovers and colours that didn't match, point proved.

Why would I want to make a s**t print of photoshop bollocks? Wait, I thought you were meant to be defending D*

Many names, many styles but only 1 game, don't make it personal Jon, a jayz avatar don't make you hard

Any chance of pics from you last weekends work? Or should I just give up

[thebleedingedge]

As a last word from me, I'm gonna let you guys chat about it, call me all the names and justify your static opinions ("I'm no great fan of D but spent 5 hours defending him last time too") and then when the dust settles I'll be back and show you why we did what we did.

If you still don't agree with it then, then I don't want to be on the same page as you... just because you don't have access to the facts doesnt mean they aren't there.

[thebleedingedge]

slowmo: check the thread, find my site, talk to girona.. you have options, but I can't hang around here

P.S. Could someone just get me nicked already?

Seen the site, asked girona to post, but what are the two things that went up last weekend? Was it the bubble tank?

[bullet]

Jun 14, 2008 12:47:41 GMT 1 thebleedingedge said:

As a last word from me, I'm gonna let you guys chat about it, call me all the names and justify your static opinions ("I'm no great fan of D but spent 5 hours defending him last time too") and then when the dust settles I'll be back and show you why we did what we did.

If you still don't agree with it then, then I don't want to be on the same page as you... just because you don't have access to the facts doesnt mean they aren't there.

If you are going to stop posting just stop posting. I have read that from you twice now...

if you are trying to help yourself you are doing no favours on here my friend.

im off to appreciate some tox tagging on london transport.

no offence - world doesnt revolve around you police have alot more better things to do i would say than deal with your one man protest...

its almost as if you think it is cool that comment about police arresting you already... well done you have read personal emails between d* and alot of his fans.. you release any of that then no one will be contacting you because you will prove to everyone that nothing they send to you is safe...

sell your prints but keep it a low edition so you can come back on here and say they all completely sold out... no doubt your thinking of doing odd few paste ups of that image aswell...

all this oh talk about it and then we will release more information is a annoying also... the time you had everyones attention you could have said whatever issues you have with d* but instead you didnt... so no doubt page will grow to 5 or 6 and then will go quiet... then you will be back and even less people will comment... s

[bullet]

Jun 14, 2008 12:50:03 GMT 1 thebleedingedge said:

P.S. Could someone just get me nicked already?

All i can imagine is a weeping 15 year old being dragged from a musty bedroom by the police past his parents and out the front door to be slapped on the hand and told he is a naughty naughty boy.

street cred this is not.

[Daniel Silk]

Sorry BleedingEdge but Im just confused.

Can you tell us all what your beef with D*Face is, as clear and simple as you can within two or three sentences.

Thanks!

[bullet]

i dont know about you silky but should be be condoning this sort of action on an artists site.

i.e...should thebleedingedge even be part of this forum full stop.

J

out of interest, bleeding edge, u said that a few days ago i would feel stupid, and would hate you

well tbh, i feel quite chuffed and i got it 100% right, you seem to be trying to drum up a name for urself, ooooh i done some work on the streets, ill put some pictures up, no i wont, i hacked dface's site ... check me out, please will somebody give me a nickname

after all this fanfare leading upto, well nothing really, i feel a bit embarrased for u

[bullet]

an absolute clown

[biggie]

Jun 14, 2008 13:01:56 GMT 1 bullet said:

i dont know about you silky but should be be condoning this sort of action on an artists site.

i.e...should thebleedingedge even be part of this forum full stop.

J

why not jboy? its a forum to discuss art! thats whats happening a good debate? no
just cause you dont agree with someone they should not get band, when we have people on the forum and get up everyones nose they are still here!!(remember when lots wanted you banned?)
if you agree with bleede or not he makes some valid points even though sometimes he may go about it the wrong way.
i think debate is a good thing, just dont need all the slagging and playground bulls**t

my 10p

[dmandpenfold]

agree with bigman, banning's just censorship.........we're almost back to the mugabe thread

Debate is always good, he's no Fatherxmas

[curiousgeorge]

Reading between the lines, i think BE is trying to say. Most forum members have been sucked into a silly game which involves street art 'selling out', with more than a few forum members being some of people who pushed the gravy train along?

Last summer was a prime example of this, with eyes wide open it's clear to see. Of course many people say they buy things they like, and don't care about the value going up or down, this is IMO utter tosh.But ego's won't allow people to admit this.

I myself can see glaring examples of this in this thread, i fear it's totally lost on those who shout the loudest too

I think everyone understands what he is saying, he has some valid points, but also talks some crap ones which I always get annoyed at:

Why should rich people be wankers if they are spending their money on something they want?

Why should someone who takes an interest in this type of art today be punished as they weren't their from the beginning? (eg I have only just discovered jaffa cakes, doesn't mean I don't love them)

Why all this hate for D*Face?

Read this interview

www.fecalface.com/SF/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1097&Itemid=92

and many others as he does not proclaim to be core street. Why do people attack him for not being a graffiti street artist, he is just doing something he loves.

Anyway, the phone is ringing.

[iwouldfollow youanywhere]

Jun 14, 2008 13:01:56 GMT 1 bullet said:

i dont know about you silky but should be be condoning this sort of action on an artists site.

i.e...should thebleedingedge even be part of this forum full stop.

J

who the f**k do you think you are?

that is the second time you have done that, trying to get someone removed who's views you can't understand and who makes you look stupid...

you may have got your way with ruralhick, but frankly i'd rather have bleedingedge on here than a sanctimonious graphic designer with a crush on d*face and a f**king jay-z avatar!

BE is so much more relevant to this scene than a "massively respected ebay collector"

[Avian Security]

TBE you have stirred things up a bit and you make some good points.
However this is all overshadowed by your mindblowing level of arrogance. You insult everyone on this forum and all similar ones in one fell swoop, tarring everyone with the same "rich wanker mug" brush. This coming from someone who violently objects to being "put in a box".
Every post you write smacks of the clique-ism and bulls**t, pointless lawbreaker camaraderie that the "old school writers" you love are so full of. What you're basically saying, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that if someone doesn't live on economy beans and white toast, steal paint and get arrested at least once a month, then he isn't legit as an artist. If anyone dares to sell a picture, to try and make some money and do well for themselves, they're a sellout.
Let me point something out. People just don't like old school graffiti and tags because 99% of it is total crap. It's a f**king eyesore and it's all about ego, all about the "look at me I'm badass", trying to get a name for yourself and look street. But you don't fool anyone, everyone knows most writers are obsessive geeks rather than the badass str33t gangsta you imply you are.
People buy stuff by Banksy and others because they like it. They DON'T buy stuff by the likes of you because they don't f**king like it and they never will.
Stop being a loudmouth martyr and get a f**king job, nobody cares that your stomach is rumbling, especially since there's a good chance you've tagged their house and they're going to have to paint over it now. c**t.

Jun 14, 2008 13:51:25 GMT 1 curiousgeorge said:

Reading between the lines, i think BE is trying to say. Most forum members have been sucked into a silly game which involves street art 'selling out', with more than a few forum members being some of people who pushed the gravy train along?

Last summer was a prime example of this, with eyes wide open it's clear to see. Of course many people say they buy things they like, and don't care about the value going up or down, this is IMO utter tosh.But ego's won't allow people to admit this.

I myself can see glaring examples of this in this thread, i fear it's totally lost on those who shout the loudest too

gr8 post CG .... this thread amazes me because yet again certain people seem to have totally forgotten where this movement came from and what it's about....BE aint well schooled in making his point eloquently but I'd rather read his entertaing rants than another 'why are you all selling your street improvements?' (because this hits the value of my collection pieces)

Jun 14, 2008 13:12:42 GMT 1 biggie said:

Jun 14, 2008 13:01:56 GMT 1 bullet said:

i dont know about you silky but should be be condoning this sort of action on an artists site.

i.e...should thebleedingedge even be part of this forum full stop.

J

why not jboy? its a forum to discuss art! thats whats happening a good debate? no
just cause you dont agree with someone they should not get band, when we have people on the forum and get up everyones nose they are still here!!(remember when lots wanted you banned?)
if you agree with bleede or not he makes some valid points even though sometimes he may go about it the wrong way.
i think debate is a good thing, just dont need all the slagging and playground bulls**t

my 10p

thank f**k there's still some common sense left here - good post my man

[Avian Security]

Jun 14, 2008 15:17:30 GMT 1 @carlito said:

Jun 14, 2008 13:12:42 GMT 1 biggie said:

why not jboy? its a forum to discuss art! thats whats happening a good debate? no
just cause you dont agree with someone they should not get band, when we have people on the forum and get up everyones nose they are still here!!(remember when lots wanted you banned?)
if you agree with bleede or not he makes some valid points even though sometimes he may go about it the wrong way.
i think debate is a good thing, just dont need all the slagging and playground bulls**t

my 10p

thank f**k there's still some common sense left here - good post my man

Yeah good point, I may not agree with thebleedingedge but banning him would be criminal.

[Daniel Silk]

"The scene has been hijacked by money.. some of us are still doing our thing though."

Maybe the scene BleedingEdge is in is just not the same one as D*Face? Everyone has their own angle and direction, maybe D*Face has moved out of your scene (if he was ever in it) into one where its ok to sell to the rich and famous along with Banksy.

[Daniel Silk]

Jun 14, 2008 15:44:15 GMT 1 Daniel Silk said:

"The scene has been hijacked by money.. some of us are still doing our thing though."

Maybe the scene BleedingEdge is in is just not the same one as D*Face? Everyone has their own angle and direction, maybe D*Face has moved out of your scene (if he was ever in it) into one where its ok to sell to the rich and famous along with Banksy.

What Im saying is that maybe D* never realised that being part of a "Scene" you must follow some unwritten rules and if you dont you get your site hacked

"The scene has been hijacked by money.. some of us are still doing our thing though."

bleeding edge, u seem to be pissed off that some artists are doing well out of selling their art, whereas you are either not doing well, or not wanting to sell the stuff you make

its good that you are doing street stuff because you clearly feel very strongly about it, but ur ego and bitterness about artists earing money has overshadowed what you do on the streets, which you still havent posted any pics of yet

[bullet]

Jun 14, 2008 15:06:15 GMT 1 iwouldfollow youanywhere said:

Jun 14, 2008 13:01:56 GMT 1 bullet said:

i dont know about you silky but should be be condoning this sort of action on an artists site.

i.e...should thebleedingedge even be part of this forum full stop.

J

who the f**k do you think you are?

that is the second time you have done that, trying to get someone removed who's views you can't understand and who makes you look stupid...

you may have got your way with ruralhick, but frankly i'd rather have bleedingedge on here than a sanctimonious graphic designer with a crush on d*face and a f**king jay-z avatar!

BE is so much more relevant to this scene than a "massively respected ebay collector"

<--- Who's she?

[iwouldfollow youanywhere]

Jun 14, 2008 16:28:28 GMT 1 bullet said:

Jun 14, 2008 15:06:15 GMT 1 iwouldfollow youanywhere said:

who the f**k do you think you are?

that is the second time you have done that, trying to get someone removed who's views you can't understand and who makes you look stupid...

you may have got your way with ruralhick, but frankly i'd rather have bleedingedge on here than a sanctimonious graphic designer with a crush on d*face and a f**king jay-z avatar!

BE is so much more relevant to this scene than a "massively respected ebay collector"

<--- Who's she?

nice one.

your wit is one of the reasons you consider yourself a better "community member" no doubt

[bullet]

there she is!

peekaboo!!

cute.

[iwouldfollow youanywhere]

f**king hell...

i'll leave it before you embarrass yourself further.