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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by edcase on Aug 20, 2008 21:59:16 GMT 1, And as a true artfag, I get a little tetchy on the subject.
Clearly. Maybe you should be sure what people are actually saying before jumping down their throats and throwing insults at them?
Being a 'true artfag' doesn't *have* to make you a total a$$hole y'know...
And as a true artfag, I get a little tetchy on the subject. Clearly. Maybe you should be sure what people are actually saying before jumping down their throats and throwing insults at them? Being a 'true artfag' doesn't *have* to make you a total a$$hole y'know... |
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by Grafter on Aug 20, 2008 22:00:04 GMT 1, I think you've grabbed the wrong end of the proverbial, my old mukker....
What I meant was that some one has already been down there and made that comment about the type of art that the original festival was dedicated to and I was happy and proud to be part of.
My original post was meant to point to the fact that I feel that this time around the festival will be handed over to the traditional freehand graffitti style writers who may have felt a bit agreived and left out of the original show.
I think you've grabbed the wrong end of the proverbial, my old mukker....
What I meant was that some one has already been down there and made that comment about the type of art that the original festival was dedicated to and I was happy and proud to be part of.
My original post was meant to point to the fact that I feel that this time around the festival will be handed over to the traditional freehand graffitti style writers who may have felt a bit agreived and left out of the original show.
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by edcase on Aug 20, 2008 22:04:13 GMT 1, Well stencil art isn't boring, so f**k off
You are a charming individual aren't you?
Have you considered for a moment you are on the forum for a community largely geared towards stencil art and it's artistry? The guy has merely posted up some of the crappy tagging which has appeared in the tunnel, he didn't write it, and he isn't saying that's his opinion!
For such a niche community compared with some of the forums on for other interests I have (cars etc.) I can't believe how much sniping, bitching and outright hostility there is on here. 
Well stencil art isn't boring, so f**k off You are a charming individual aren't you? Have you considered for a moment you are on the forum for a community largely geared towards stencil art and it's artistry? The guy has merely posted up some of the crappy tagging which has appeared in the tunnel, he didn't write it, and he isn't saying that's his opinion! For such a niche community compared with some of the forums on for other interests I have (cars etc.) I can't believe how much sniping, bitching and outright hostility there is on here. |
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by felix on Aug 20, 2008 22:05:39 GMT 1, I think you've grabbed the wrong end of the proverbial, my old mukker.... What I meant was that some one has already been down there and made that comment about the type of art that the original festival was dedicated to and I was happy and proud to be part of. My original post was meant to point to the fact that I feel that this time around the festival will be handed over to the traditional freehand graffitti style writers who may have felt a bit agreived and left out of the original show.
In that case, as soon as it is open to the public - I am going to go done there with loads of shit tag stencils and stencil the fuck out of it.
Sorry Grafter - I feel extremely embarrassed, I did get the wrong end of the stick..
I think you've grabbed the wrong end of the proverbial, my old mukker.... What I meant was that some one has already been down there and made that comment about the type of art that the original festival was dedicated to and I was happy and proud to be part of. My original post was meant to point to the fact that I feel that this time around the festival will be handed over to the traditional freehand graffitti style writers who may have felt a bit agreived and left out of the original show. In that case, as soon as it is open to the public - I am going to go done there with loads of shit tag stencils and stencil the fuck out of it. Sorry Grafter - I feel extremely embarrassed, I did get the wrong end of the stick.. |
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by edcase on Aug 20, 2008 22:06:40 GMT 1, I think you've grabbed the wrong end of the proverbial, my old mukker.... What I meant was that some one has already been down there and made that comment about the type of art that the original festival was dedicated to and I was happy and proud to be part of. My original post was meant to point to the fact that I feel that this time around the festival will be handed over to the traditional freehand graffitti style writers who may have felt a bit agreived and left out of the original show.
I think 99.9% of the readers knew what you meant, I wouldn't feel obliged to explain yourself to people who think it's okay to start throwing insults around at the drop of a hat.
I think you've grabbed the wrong end of the proverbial, my old mukker.... What I meant was that some one has already been down there and made that comment about the type of art that the original festival was dedicated to and I was happy and proud to be part of. My original post was meant to point to the fact that I feel that this time around the festival will be handed over to the traditional freehand graffitti style writers who may have felt a bit agreived and left out of the original show. I think 99.9% of the readers knew what you meant, I wouldn't feel obliged to explain yourself to people who think it's okay to start throwing insults around at the drop of a hat. |
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by Grafter on Aug 20, 2008 22:08:07 GMT 1, No hard feelings.....
Let's all be friends... ;D ;D
and let's all enjoy the festival all over again. I'm absolutley sure that by Saturday night we'll all be on here saying how wonderful it all was and what a genius Mr B is,..... again.
No hard feelings.....
Let's all be friends... ;D ;D
and let's all enjoy the festival all over again. I'm absolutley sure that by Saturday night we'll all be on here saying how wonderful it all was and what a genius Mr B is,..... again.
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by felix on Aug 20, 2008 22:09:26 GMT 1, Well stencil art isn't boring, so f**k off You are a charming individual aren't you? Have you considered for a moment you are on the forum for a community largely geared towards stencil art and it's artistry? The guy has merely posted up some of the crappy tagging which has appeared in the tunnel, he didn't write it, and he isn't saying that's his opinion! For such a niche community compared with some of the forums on for other interests I have (cars etc.) I can't believe how much sniping, b**ching and outright hostility there is on here.
Huh, quite the opposite, I am respecting something I love, which unfortunately makes me attack people who rubbish it. Writing BORING STENCIL ART in Leake Street is the most offensive thing I have seen in a long time. I got the wrong end of the stick with Grafter and have apologised.
Well stencil art isn't boring, so f**k off You are a charming individual aren't you? Have you considered for a moment you are on the forum for a community largely geared towards stencil art and it's artistry? The guy has merely posted up some of the crappy tagging which has appeared in the tunnel, he didn't write it, and he isn't saying that's his opinion! For such a niche community compared with some of the forums on for other interests I have (cars etc.) I can't believe how much sniping, b**ching and outright hostility there is on here. Huh, quite the opposite, I am respecting something I love, which unfortunately makes me attack people who rubbish it. Writing BORING STENCIL ART in Leake Street is the most offensive thing I have seen in a long time. I got the wrong end of the stick with Grafter and have apologised. |
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by felix on Aug 20, 2008 22:29:32 GMT 1, Anyway to sum that up, i'm a cunt and I get over protective. If this is what the Cans Festival is now about, it looks terrible and I don't think I will bother.
Oh and anyone who goes on multiple car forums, I don't really care what you say.
Anyway to sum that up, i'm a cunt and I get over protective. If this is what the Cans Festival is now about, it looks terrible and I don't think I will bother.
Oh and anyone who goes on multiple car forums, I don't really care what you say.
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by rosstierney on Aug 20, 2008 22:48:58 GMT 1, are you pissed felix? you don't sound the same. and have you been banned because you're showing as a guest
are you pissed felix? you don't sound the same. and have you been banned because you're showing as a guest |
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by carlito on Aug 20, 2008 23:13:15 GMT 1, went down the tunnel this afternoon, and it's pretty much tagged to buggery..... There are some nice large new freehand pieces up, and there are some random slogans splattered about. I think this pretty much sums up what this weekend's about....  
that looks alot like B's handiwork to me 
...that second statement says an awful lot to me about the state of play in this scene today
went down the tunnel this afternoon, and it's pretty much tagged to buggery..... There are some nice large new freehand pieces up, and there are some random slogans splattered about. I think this pretty much sums up what this weekend's about.... that looks alot like B's handiwork to me ...that second statement says an awful lot to me about the state of play in this scene today |
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by romanywg on Aug 20, 2008 23:15:54 GMT 1, Freehand this time. Maybe pasteup next time.
Freehand this time. Maybe pasteup next time.
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by Grafter on Aug 20, 2008 23:24:01 GMT 1, Hey Carlo, you said what I was thinking.....but was too afraid to say..!
Hey Carlo, you said what I was thinking.....but was too afraid to say..!
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by mammal2 on Aug 20, 2008 23:25:00 GMT 1, The tunnel is being reinvigorated, with new sculptures, so there will be some old work and some new. Simple as that! By the way that looks very much like Banksys handwriting to me! oi
The tunnel is being reinvigorated, with new sculptures, so there will be some old work and some new. Simple as that! By the way that looks very much like Banksys handwriting to me! oi
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by carlito on Aug 20, 2008 23:25:47 GMT 1, Hey Carlo, you said what I was thinking.....but was too afraid to say..!
its gone to the dogs mate literally
sad to see walthamstow go to
Hey Carlo, you said what I was thinking.....but was too afraid to say..! its gone to the dogs mate literally sad to see walthamstow go to |
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by mammal2 on Aug 20, 2008 23:42:01 GMT 1, Though to be fair it was THEIR culture. It was Banksy, Goldies, Nick Walkers, The DryBreadZ Crew, Kato, Tes, Harings, Jean-Michel Basquiat, TAKI 183 and more. The trains and walls were theirs. 99% of this board and so called street artists came after. LONG after. It was theres, and thank god because we get to enjoy it, (and its appears so do so many shite online galleries). Banksy always brings it back home. Bring one Cans mark 2 and listen to the master.
Though to be fair it was THEIR culture. It was Banksy, Goldies, Nick Walkers, The DryBreadZ Crew, Kato, Tes, Harings, Jean-Michel Basquiat, TAKI 183 and more. The trains and walls were theirs. 99% of this board and so called street artists came after. LONG after. It was theres, and thank god because we get to enjoy it, (and its appears so do so many shite online galleries). Banksy always brings it back home. Bring one Cans mark 2 and listen to the master.
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by carlito on Aug 20, 2008 23:46:49 GMT 1, I think he's basically making the point that this scene / culture has moved along way from it's roots / from the reasons alot of ppl liked it in the first place / that the culture has been stolen by the highest bidder on ebay / gallery .. etc etc
it was never meant to be like this (queue the psuedo intellectual fine art dwellers of this board telling us how of course it would go in this direction...wellll durhhhhh ... doesn't mean we have to like it )
I think he's basically making the point that this scene / culture has moved along way from it's roots / from the reasons alot of ppl liked it in the first place / that the culture has been stolen by the highest bidder on ebay / gallery .. etc etc it was never meant to be like this (queue the psuedo intellectual fine art dwellers of this board telling us how of course it would go in this direction...wellll durhhhhh ... doesn't mean we have to like it ) |
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by mammal2 on Aug 20, 2008 23:56:26 GMT 1, Its happened in 85 with Jean-Michel. However, Banksy knows exactly what he is doing. He broke through as it appealed to Jon Doe, but without a doubt in my mind Banksy talks the talk but he is entrepreneurial. Don't get me wrong I LOVE his work, but the days of Banksy selling art out of Steves boot are LONG gone.
Its happened in 85 with Jean-Michel. However, Banksy knows exactly what he is doing. He broke through as it appealed to Jon Doe, but without a doubt in my mind Banksy talks the talk but he is entrepreneurial. Don't get me wrong I LOVE his work, but the days of Banksy selling art out of Steves boot are LONG gone.
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by stillborncrisps on Aug 21, 2008 0:26:08 GMT 1, Hey Carlo, you said what I was thinking.....but was too afraid to say..!
As much as I want to believe it, I don't think it is. In all the pieces I've just nosed through with sprayed freehand writing, a few of the letters look too different - the Y especially.
eg...
but who knows...... ;D
Hey Carlo, you said what I was thinking.....but was too afraid to say..! As much as I want to believe it, I don't think it is. In all the pieces I've just nosed through with sprayed freehand writing, a few of the letters look too different - the Y especially. eg... but who knows...... ;D |
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by graeme501 on Aug 21, 2008 1:27:13 GMT 1, it wouldnt make any sense but, saying that it used to be 'our culture' while curating an exhibition to bring street art to the masses
it wouldnt make any sense but, saying that it used to be 'our culture' while curating an exhibition to bring street art to the masses
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by mcster on Aug 21, 2008 8:30:24 GMT 1, I don't really get all of this Street Art vs Graff business, it has echoes of the House / Club scene of the late 80's and early 90's. One minute it's all types of music and very creative, next it's dividing itself into little groups that are so niche it becomes anal and boring (no to mention getting ruined by the masses). IMO if it's artistic and on the street it's all the same thing, just different approaches. It'd be cool to see some varying styles there this time, I don't expect to like everything I see, but that's just fine by me.
I don't really get all of this Street Art vs Graff business, it has echoes of the House / Club scene of the late 80's and early 90's. One minute it's all types of music and very creative, next it's dividing itself into little groups that are so niche it becomes anal and boring (no to mention getting ruined by the masses). IMO if it's artistic and on the street it's all the same thing, just different approaches. It'd be cool to see some varying styles there this time, I don't expect to like everything I see, but that's just fine by me.
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by angel41 on Aug 21, 2008 8:43:43 GMT 1, Whatever happened to the 'never under any circumstances go over someone elses work' principle. Tongue firmly in cheek of course. 
Whatever happened to the 'never under any circumstances go over someone elses work' principle. Tongue firmly in cheek of course. |
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by Macdeee on Aug 21, 2008 9:11:55 GMT 1, I think you will find it was graff artist Solo one who wrote that comment, as there was a Solo one tag next to it in the same paint. I find it quite funny really and the whole hardcore graff V artfag street art is one that will never go away. What makes me laugh more is that the "Boring stencil art" was done with a paint brush and paint! Not very hardcore graff really.
I think you will find it was graff artist Solo one who wrote that comment, as there was a Solo one tag next to it in the same paint. I find it quite funny really and the whole hardcore graff V artfag street art is one that will never go away. What makes me laugh more is that the "Boring stencil art" was done with a paint brush and paint! Not very hardcore graff really.
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by snowflake8888 on Aug 21, 2008 9:26:12 GMT 1, I find it rather amusing that the statement was painted over what WAS boring stencil art, because the Eelus was left alone. In any case, I will be down to take a look on Saturday!
I find it rather amusing that the statement was painted over what WAS boring stencil art, because the Eelus was left alone. In any case, I will be down to take a look on Saturday!
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by mcnuts on Aug 21, 2008 9:29:48 GMT 1, I think he's basically making the point that this scene / culture has moved along way from it's roots / from the reasons alot of ppl liked it in the first place / that the culture has been stolen by the highest bidder on ebay / gallery .. etc etc it was never meant to be like this (queue the psuedo intellectual fine art dwellers of this board telling us how of course it would go in this direction...wellll durhhhhh ... doesn't mean we have to like it )
dude. i didnt know there was any depth behind that pink shirt. deep thoughts.
I think he's basically making the point that this scene / culture has moved along way from it's roots / from the reasons alot of ppl liked it in the first place / that the culture has been stolen by the highest bidder on ebay / gallery .. etc etc it was never meant to be like this (queue the psuedo intellectual fine art dwellers of this board telling us how of course it would go in this direction...wellll durhhhhh ... doesn't mean we have to like it ) dude. i didnt know there was any depth behind that pink shirt. deep thoughts. |
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by carlito on Aug 21, 2008 9:59:50 GMT 1, I think he's basically making the point that this scene / culture has moved along way from it's roots / from the reasons alot of ppl liked it in the first place / that the culture has been stolen by the highest bidder on ebay / gallery .. etc etc it was never meant to be like this (queue the psuedo intellectual fine art dwellers of this board telling us how of course it would go in this direction...wellll durhhhhh ... doesn't mean we have to like it ) dude. i didnt know there was any depth behind that pink shirt. deep thoughts.
thanks McNutty on occasion the pinkness doesn't block my brainwaves..... glad to see most of taken the most important bit to be whether this was B or not, or whether this is just a statement about stencil v graf ...personally ... that just skimming the surface of what was meant....counter culture what f*cking counter culture?
I think he's basically making the point that this scene / culture has moved along way from it's roots / from the reasons alot of ppl liked it in the first place / that the culture has been stolen by the highest bidder on ebay / gallery .. etc etc it was never meant to be like this (queue the psuedo intellectual fine art dwellers of this board telling us how of course it would go in this direction...wellll durhhhhh ... doesn't mean we have to like it ) dude. i didnt know there was any depth behind that pink shirt. deep thoughts. thanks McNutty on occasion the pinkness doesn't block my brainwaves..... glad to see most of taken the most important bit to be whether this was B or not, or whether this is just a statement about stencil v graf ...personally ... that just skimming the surface of what was meant....counter culture what f*cking counter culture? |
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by carlito on Aug 21, 2008 10:17:36 GMT 1, I don't really get all of this Street Art vs Graff business, it has echoes of the House / Club scene of the late 80's and early 90's. One minute it's all types of music and very creative, next it's dividing itself into little groups that are so niche it becomes anal and boring (no to mention getting ruined by the masses). IMO if it's artistic and on the street it's all the same thing, just different approaches. It'd be cool to see some varying styles there this time, I don't expect to like everything I see, but that's just fine by me.
.... i think that statment was firmly 'tongue in cheek' and alluding to alot of band wagon jumping that is happening at the mo....
I don't really get all of this Street Art vs Graff business, it has echoes of the House / Club scene of the late 80's and early 90's. One minute it's all types of music and very creative, next it's dividing itself into little groups that are so niche it becomes anal and boring (no to mention getting ruined by the masses). IMO if it's artistic and on the street it's all the same thing, just different approaches. It'd be cool to see some varying styles there this time, I don't expect to like everything I see, but that's just fine by me. .... i think that statment was firmly 'tongue in cheek' and alluding to alot of band wagon jumping that is happening at the mo.... |
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by carlito on Aug 21, 2008 10:19:16 GMT 1, it wouldnt make any sense but, saying that it used to be 'our culture' while curating an exhibition to bring street art to the masses
errrr I think bringing Art to street level / free for everyone is EXACTLY what the culture is, but to a greater degree is being lost....this wasn't a statement criticising Cans...
it wouldnt make any sense but, saying that it used to be 'our culture' while curating an exhibition to bring street art to the masses errrr I think bringing Art to street level / free for everyone is EXACTLY what the culture is, but to a greater degree is being lost....this wasn't a statement criticising Cans... |
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by mammal2 on Aug 21, 2008 14:08:44 GMT 1, Anyone been down today to have a look see.
Anyone been down today to have a look see.
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by scavos on Aug 21, 2008 14:23:07 GMT 1, Bloody hell, what happened to Felix? Did he fall into a k-hole or something? Not his usual lighthearted banter and tomfoolery. Cans 2 should be good.
I thought the writing in the first pic looked like the 'Take This -Society!' and 'What? boy' as soon as I saw it - for what that's worth.
Bloody hell, what happened to Felix? Did he fall into a k-hole or something? Not his usual lighthearted banter and tomfoolery. Cans 2 should be good.
I thought the writing in the first pic looked like the 'Take This -Society!' and 'What? boy' as soon as I saw it - for what that's worth.
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2nd Cans Festival • 2008, by Daniel Silk on Aug 21, 2008 14:31:04 GMT 1, Yeah, to me it just looks like they might be just marking the pieces that are ok to do new stuff over
Yeah, to me it just looks like they might be just marking the pieces that are ok to do new stuff over |
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