[Tower Art Gallery]

Is the urban/street art world ready for real graffiti art? Would love to hear all your feed back.

The artworks below are by CES53 enjoy.

[fergy]

Some cool work there.

[br1stol]

Very clean. I like em...

[Avian Security]

reminds me of Brazilian artist PATO


The urban art market goes for
a) talent
b) Banksy clones

CES53 has (a) so he should be fine.

[woodsman]

I hate the phrase urban art!

[carlito]

I'd love the graf on paper if they were sprayed on...look much better on the walls for my money

[curiousgeorge]

My walls are ready for the old school Graf, not sure if that would ever be possible though


FWM would get me started, then i would love some Seen and Dondi stuff

[Daniel Silk]

Nice stuff! ;D Mayen Style Graffiti

[GVD]

I love the CES53 piece on the oude binnenweg, or is it the nieuwe binnenweg.. hhmm anyway you should post a pic of that one !

[thebleedingedge]

is the graff world ready (or willing) to be swallowed whole by the urban art market?

[curiousgeorge]

May 30, 2008 14:57:51 GMT 1 thebleedingedge said:

is the graff world ready (or willing) to be swallowed whole by the urban art market?

I think that's the real question here, and i think i know what the reply 'should' be!

[instinct]

this stuff has the vibrancy of takeshi murakami (pardon the spelling)!

[junkieart]

love it!!! Let them be free, release them all!!!! takashi murakami (very close mate!)

[loucastel]

Absolutely love this stuff, so vibrant and full of action, shame these ones are so pricy, they would look great on my wall!! this is one of my favourites.

[instinct]

get ready for the freestyle people... did you see the moodboards at the nick walker show? more freestyle please.

[European Bob]

would love old style/freestyle pieces on my walls.....big big fan

[Tower Art Gallery]

Ces53 flickr
www.flickr.com/photos/ces53/

[romanywg]

Here's a free style piece that SNUB23 put up yesterday in some alley. Amazing to watch, so fast.
More pics here: www.flickr.com/photos/romanywg/sets/72157605357785788/

[danny1]

errrr mate you should have crooped or obscured his face. fookin hell.^^^^^^^^^^^

the mayan graff looks a little like pinky from hull (search pinky vision on google)

[romanywg]

I did ask beforehand if he minded being shown and he didn't, otherwise I wouldn't have shown it.
Plus he looks like Will Self.

[thebleedingedge]

No no, see there you guys go again comparing apples with wotsits. Just because it's freehand doesn't make it "real graff", that's not really what I think of when I hear the term anyway and I think the two artists focussed on in this thread are in completely different camps.

Look at CES, he is writing his name, you guys were seeing mayan characters and styling but what is really there is a solid letter structure that has taken ages to evolve and a style applied to that, tight outlines with bubbles and flames and the outline is perfect to contrast with the absolutely crazy colour scheme, thats all style, and that style has had to evolve from letters. Letters might seem like a silly thing for the basis of what he is doing, but it is the hardest thing to perfect, the hardest thing to be unique with, the hardest thing to agonize over and it has resulted in an amazing ability to draw all types of other things on walls with spraypaint because letters and graffiti are all about flow. He has been bitten by the bug, he might go do a lone character in a production, paint a million canvasses and make a sculpture out of boiled eggs but at the end of the day, when he is drunk and on the shitter in a pub, he is writing his name, when he has a napkin and pen, he is writing. Now take that, stick it on a rooftop at 3:20AM on a Sunday, and you have a better idea of real graff (but I'd still have to type another 1000 of these posts before you got it).

Snub, don't know too much about him, saw a sticker once I think, but he seems to be in the "recognisable logo" camp, he is building a brand which is basically the next evolution of the original street logo era, he is about a repeatable recognisable character, it's a completely different thing, he is all about marketting really, everything he puts up all adds to the brand of snub23. You could recognize his sticker from knowing he was behind that piece, or a stencil or a flyer or shirt or whatever he chooses to get the brand out there with. Even if we isolate it to the piece, the execution is completely different, snub's character is made of a few tones of pink for fills and black and white for outlines, ces has fuck knows how many colour pattern fills with amazing detail on the insides and an outline that makes me cry (it's just too clean and is oozing style). Can you imagine how lost in the colours you would be if you were doing that top CES right before the white outline?

Different things entirely.

[howlinhooker]

KOOL STUFF!