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Beetle Bum
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by Beetle Bum on May 10, 2023 11:04:37 GMT 1, I watched it too and the fake typing was hilarious alright. The dealers seemed like a bunch of Del Boys.
I watched it too and the fake typing was hilarious alright. The dealers seemed like a bunch of Del Boys.
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Masong
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by Masong on May 10, 2023 11:22:09 GMT 1, I watched it and it was awful. It was more like storage wars for toffs.
I watched it and it was awful. It was more like storage wars for toffs. |
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Dubman
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by Dubman on May 10, 2023 11:22:39 GMT 1,
I also stumbled across the program at the point of the Banksy auction.
The problem I have with the ยฃ250k price tag, which actually seems very reasonable for an original - but is its a lot to drop on a piece that wont ever be certified from PC.
Was there any Provenance and or does anyone remember where this piece came from?
I also stumbled across the program at the point of the Banksy auction.
The problem I have with the ยฃ250k price tag, which actually seems very reasonable for an original - but is its a lot to drop on a piece that wont ever be certified from PC.
Was there any Provenance and or does anyone remember where this piece came from?
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Loobaz
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by Loobaz on May 10, 2023 11:26:26 GMT 1, 
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xixixi
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by xixixi on May 10, 2023 11:28:32 GMT 1, Bankrobber got what he deserved. Hope he enjoys his lump of concrete.
Bankrobber got what he deserved. Hope he enjoys his lump of concrete.
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Jonas B
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by Jonas B on May 10, 2023 11:46:47 GMT 1, Staggering how C4 could have produced such a dire and amateurish programme. I was quite excited but itโs unwatchable.
Staggering how C4 could have produced such a dire and amateurish programme. I was quite excited but itโs unwatchable.
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marrosi
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by marrosi on May 10, 2023 11:50:13 GMT 1, I also stumbled across the program at the point of the Banksy auction. The problem I have with the ยฃ250k price tag, which actually seems very reasonable for an original - but is its a lot to drop on a piece that wont ever be certified from PC. Was there any Provenance and or does anyone remember where this piece came from?
I also stumbled across the program at the point of the Banksy auction. The problem I have with the ยฃ250k price tag, which actually seems very reasonable for an original - but is its a lot to drop on a piece that wont ever be certified from PC. Was there any Provenance and or does anyone remember where this piece came from? Agree. My concern is that people with no Pest Control pieces are going to use these shows to make money and some way create some Provenance. My opinion is that was fake. Not an expert but the signature looked wrong. |
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Dubman
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by Dubman on May 10, 2023 11:51:37 GMT 1, Looks legit.. where/ when was this?
Looks legit.. where/ when was this? |
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bigaldog
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by bigaldog on May 10, 2023 11:51:38 GMT 1, The program was utter tosh, all about the money. The lettering on this piece was dubious to say the least, but I did enjoy the comment made that it was definitely by Mr B because of "the energy" of it. Mmmm, cracked concrete. The Buzzcocks collection was good though.
The program was utter tosh, all about the money. The lettering on this piece was dubious to say the least, but I did enjoy the comment made that it was definitely by Mr B because of "the energy" of it. Mmmm, cracked concrete. The Buzzcocks collection was good though.
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Babyford
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by Babyford on May 10, 2023 12:15:38 GMT 1, The piece was 100% not Banksy Good imitation but that's it....
The piece was 100% not Banksy Good imitation but that's it....
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begs
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by begs on May 10, 2023 14:14:40 GMT 1, Just laughable so staged,like something from the Star Wars bar
Just laughable so staged,like something from the Star Wars bar
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by Carl Cashman Art on May 10, 2023 14:36:51 GMT 1, Looks legit.. where/ when was this?
Looks legit.. where/ when was this? The plane is legit, the rat is an addition |
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tidybut
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by tidybut on May 10, 2023 14:44:53 GMT 1, Silent Bill! ๐โ๏ธ๐
Silent Bill! ๐โ๏ธ๐
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by UK Art Dealer on May 10, 2023 15:55:57 GMT 1, I got sent the catalogue for this by the production company prior to filming - couldnโt believe the lack of curation or quality. Havenโt watched the programme but it certainly appeared a bit half baked.
I got sent the catalogue for this by the production company prior to filming - couldnโt believe the lack of curation or quality. Havenโt watched the programme but it certainly appeared a bit half baked.
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hnkpnk
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by hnkpnk on May 10, 2023 16:04:23 GMT 1, This wasn't a real Banksy. It was sprayed around 2014 under Banksys looping aeroplane in Liverpool and was a response to a real Banksy rat he did in around 2004 with the text "Never liked the Beatles", also in Liverpool. Guess it hit a nerve.
This wasn't a real Banksy. It was sprayed around 2014 under Banksys looping aeroplane in Liverpool and was a response to a real Banksy rat he did in around 2004 with the text "Never liked the Beatles", also in Liverpool. Guess it hit a nerve.
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hnkpnk
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by hnkpnk on May 10, 2023 16:32:27 GMT 1, 
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Sundowner
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by Sundowner on May 10, 2023 16:42:10 GMT 1, Robin Barton (aka 'Bankrobber') is well known to those with long memories. He was the one working with Keszler a good few years back to remove a load of street pieces from Israel.
The man's ego has no bounds - just have a read of a few pages of his highly implausible 'biography'......
Robin Barton (aka 'Bankrobber') is well known to those with long memories. He was the one working with Keszler a good few years back to remove a load of street pieces from Israel.
The man's ego has no bounds - just have a read of a few pages of his highly implausible 'biography'......
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robbo118
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Jonas B
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by Jonas B on May 10, 2023 17:14:17 GMT 1, How great if Robin Barton spent ยฃ250k on a fake. That will hurt his ego and bank account in equal measure. To do it so publicly is a cherry on the cake.
How great if Robin Barton spent ยฃ250k on a fake. That will hurt his ego and bank account in equal measure. To do it so publicly is a cherry on the cake.
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STP
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by STP on May 10, 2023 18:39:18 GMT 1, Delicious that Barton went on the show in an obvious attempt to legitimise his dubious catalogue of 'genuine' Banksy street pieces - and indeed his reputation as an expert in the field - only to come away with the exact opposite.
Delicious that Barton went on the show in an obvious attempt to legitimise his dubious catalogue of 'genuine' Banksy street pieces - and indeed his reputation as an expert in the field - only to come away with the exact opposite.
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met
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by met on May 10, 2023 19:30:11 GMT 1,
This wasn't a real Banksy. It was sprayed around 2014 under Banksys looping aeroplane in Liverpool and was a response to a real Banksy rat he did in around 2004 with the text "Never liked the Beatles", also in Liverpool. Guess it hit a nerve.
Even if the biplane rat had, from a technical standpoint, been perfectly executed, no Banksy enthusiast using their brain should have hesitated to describe it as a fake or an ironic homage.
Regardless of their level of experience, for anyone to have thought the piece could be authentic is evidence of their failure to understand the sensibility of the artist.
Because believing it might be genuine would require also believing that Banksy would ever refer to his work or to himself in the third person โ like some self‑indulgent prat suffering from the street‑art equivalent of Mott the Hoople syndrome.
This wasn't a real Banksy. It was sprayed around 2014 under Banksys looping aeroplane in Liverpool and was a response to a real Banksy rat he did in around 2004 with the text "Never liked the Beatles", also in Liverpool. Guess it hit a nerve. Even if the biplane rat had, from a technical standpoint, been perfectly executed, no Ban ksy enthusiast using their brain should have hesitated to describe it as a fake or an ironic homage. Regardless of their level of experience, for anyone to have thought the piece could be authentic is evidence of their failure to understand the sensibility of the artist. Because believing it might be genuine would require also believing that Ban ksy would ever refer to his work or to himself in the third person โ like some self‑indulgent prat suffering from the str eet‑art equivalent of Mott the Hoople syndrome. |
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by Lroy on May 10, 2023 22:47:36 GMT 1, Of course it is.
It has been made in 2013, and is appearing in the SBโ s book.
SB from Liverpool made this rat ( clever quote ) as a joke, not a naughty one, I mean a โ clin dโลil โ๐ ๐ to Banksy.
Nothing serious, SB is a very talented, kind and joking artist.
he created the SSOSVA with more than 4000 artists years ago, from the smallest to the greatest.
Street-art world ! Panini section !
One of my first friend in the good old times !
Of course it is. It has been made in 2013, and is appearing in the SBโ s book. SB from Liverpool made this rat ( clever quote ) as a joke, not a naughty one, I mean a โ clin dโลil โ๐ ๐ to Banksy. Nothing serious, SB is a very talented, kind and joking artist. he created the SSOSVA with more than 4000 artists years ago, from the smallest to the greatest. Street-art world ! Panini section ! One of my first friend in the good old times ! |
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by The Greased Piglet on May 11, 2023 2:30:52 GMT 1, I mean any t**t that thinks Banksy would return to the place he drew a piece 10 years later, refer to himself in the 3rd person, add a piece which was a parody of another earlier piece clearly doesn't know a lot about the artist's practise or history. The eel that bought it deserves his worthless concrete.
I mean any t**t that thinks Banksy would return to the place he drew a piece 10 years later, refer to himself in the 3rd person, add a piece which was a parody of another earlier piece clearly doesn't know a lot about the artist's practise or history. The eel that bought it deserves his worthless concrete.
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by My Name is Frank on May 11, 2023 9:07:16 GMT 1, I watched this last night and it seemed obvious to me that Bank robber was the seller and buyer, looking to legitimise the piece and his reputation by sticking it on TV. Why channel four would have accepted this as an auction piece when antiques road show dealt with a street piece as they should (its worthless), is blatantly a publicity stunt for bank robber to try and paint himself as an expert in the field so ha can start to self certify authentic works.
Or I just overthink things like normal.
I watched this last night and it seemed obvious to me that Bank robber was the seller and buyer, looking to legitimise the piece and his reputation by sticking it on TV. Why channel four would have accepted this as an auction piece when antiques road show dealt with a street piece as they should (its worthless), is blatantly a publicity stunt for bank robber to try and paint himself as an expert in the field so ha can start to self certify authentic works.
Or I just overthink things like normal.
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Acme Thunderer
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by Acme Thunderer on May 11, 2023 9:23:49 GMT 1, I watched this last night and it seemed obvious to me that Bank robber was the seller and buyer, looking to legitimise the piece and his reputation by sticking it on TV. Why channel four would have accepted this as an auction piece when antiques road show dealt with a street piece as they should (its worthless), is blatantly a publicity stunt for bank robber to try and paint himself as an expert in the field so ha can start to self certify authentic works. Or I just overthink things like normal.
Was very cringe worthy.
I watched this last night and it seemed obvious to me that Bank robber was the seller and buyer, looking to legitimise the piece and his reputation by sticking it on TV. Why channel four would have accepted this as an auction piece when antiques road show dealt with a street piece as they should (its worthless), is blatantly a publicity stunt for bank robber to try and paint himself as an expert in the field so ha can start to self certify authentic works. Or I just overthink things like normal. โฆand he was also responsible for the telephone shill bidding from Dubai to bump up the price. Was very cringe worthy. |
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by mojo on May 11, 2023 10:20:42 GMT 1, How the hell did C4 put their name to this programme? Surely there are legal consequences to selling/promoting fake unauthorised artworks that could have quite simply been authenticated by the artists legitimate authenticity service...but weren't. Obviously as forum members we all know that Pest Control will not authenticate stolen street works particularly when they are not even created by Banksy. To introduce those people to viewers as experts is factually wrong, the recognised experts are Pest Control and C4 know that. The only thing this programme did was highlight why Banksy's official authenticity office is called PEST control.
PEST
noun
An annoying person or thing; a nuisance.
How the hell did C4 put their name to this programme? Surely there are legal consequences to selling/promoting fake unauthorised artworks that could have quite simply been authenticated by the artists legitimate authenticity service...but weren't. Obviously as forum members we all know that Pest Control will not authenticate stolen street works particularly when they are not even created by Banksy. To introduce those people to viewers as experts is factually wrong, the recognised experts are Pest Control and C4 know that. The only thing this programme did was highlight why Banksy's official authenticity office is called PEST control.
PEST
noun
An annoying person or thing; a nuisance.
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by Jonas B on May 11, 2023 10:37:19 GMT 1, I wouldnโt be surprised if C4 pull this programme before the series is over. Absolute rubbish.
I wouldnโt be surprised if C4 pull this programme before the series is over. Absolute rubbish.
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by compound on May 11, 2023 10:55:38 GMT 1, I wouldnโt be surprised if C4 pull this programme before the series is over. Absolute rubbish.
I wouldnโt be surprised if C4 pull this programme before the series is over. Absolute rubbish. Itโs like a shitter version of 4rooms |
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'Banksy' piece at The Greatest Auction , by Gnocchi Friends on May 12, 2023 6:50:46 GMT 1, The list of backfiring is growing.
The artwork was published in a book, credited to Silent Bill, and anyone who is an expert on street art removal, Liverpool street art, or the history of Banksy, will have looked at this book.
So the program researchers obviously didn't do their job, unless the point of the program is to highlight how fraud occurs within the art world.
Silent Bills price/valuation has leapt up, and if I'm correct, he's owed some money.
The list of backfiring is growing.
The artwork was published in a book, credited to Silent Bill, and anyone who is an expert on street art removal, Liverpool street art, or the history of Banksy, will have looked at this book.
So the program researchers obviously didn't do their job, unless the point of the program is to highlight how fraud occurs within the art world.
Silent Bills price/valuation has leapt up, and if I'm correct, he's owed some money.
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