[nikos76]

The Adams family.

10 wars, 6 million deaths, 0 sanctions.





If you are reading, take a good look at the photo and think



Have a nice day 

And finally Trump is I think the only American president who did not go to war if I'm wrong I apologize

[Hairbland]

Mar 24, 2022 12:29:10 GMT 1 nikos76 said:

The Adams family.

10 wars, 6 million deaths, 0 sanctions.





If you are reading, take a good look at the photo and think



Have a nice day 

And finally Trump is I think the only American president who did not go to war if I'm wrong I apologize

Trump, put into power with help from Putin, tried to weaken NATO so that the reclaiming of Ukraine would be the 3 day cakewalk Putin thought it would be. The war is as much about NATO as it is about Ukraine. The attacking of civilians, aimed to drive them into surrounding NATO countries as refugees is aimed at weakening the NATO alliance.

[STP]

Mar 19, 2022 20:35:11 GMT 1 nikos76 said:

It's not just Ukraine that's at war
I don't understand why people close their eyes to other countries. In Africa a lot of people are starving and they have distributed a lot of money for arms. I boycott

Mar 19, 2022 22:01:04 GMT 1 nikos76 said:

I am neither for the Russians nor for Ukraine, I am for peace.
I don't see people talking about the media who don't give a damn about us.
Soon it will be read that there are no Nazis on either side.

You say nothing about Russia's war crimes but criticise people and media in the west for not being upset about other theatres of war and death which you use to hide behind without displaying similar outrage, anger or concern for Russia's actions, and are weirdly eager to believe Zelensky is a Nazi or western pawn.

We see right through you.

Fuck Putin, and fuck you.

[lollie]

I think maybe you've  got confused along the way.
At a guess i would say most people who oppose the invasion of Ukraine would also of opposed those as well.
Plenty of protests took place during these conflicts around the world.
However your initial objection was against the artists who were at the forefront of most of these protests, but if its the politicians that your real objection lie with then your preaching to the choir.

[nikos76]

STP

I didn't insult you
the truth hurts

Hairbland You sleep standing up and you pay for a hotel room

[Acme Thunderer]

Mar 24, 2022 12:48:16 GMT 1 STP said:

Mar 19, 2022 20:35:11 GMT 1 nikos76 said:

It's not just Ukraine that's at war
I don't understand why people close their eyes to other countries. In Africa a lot of people are starving and they have distributed a lot of money for arms. I boycott

Mar 19, 2022 22:01:04 GMT 1 nikos76 said:

I am neither for the Russians nor for Ukraine, I am for peace.
I don't see people talking about the media who don't give a damn about us.
Soon it will be read that there are no Nazis on either side.

You say nothing about Russia's war crimes but criticise people and media in the west for not being upset about other theatres of war and death which you use to hide behind without displaying similar outrage, anger or concern for Russia's actions, and are weirdly eager to believe Zelensky is a Nazi or western pawn.

We see right through you.

Fuck Putin, and fuck you.

It’s a shame when we see forum members tell others to FU.

I don’t think there is any excuse for such aggressive language regardless whether you disagree or agree.

I wish there were mods who could ensure this is not tolerated. It just puts off others wanting to contribute to any of the threads.

It can’t be that difficult to behave like a responsible adult.

[nikos76]

@acme Thunderer Je suis tout à fait d'accord avec vous Je ne répondrai à personne sur ce sujet
Je suis là juste pour ma passion du street art
Bonne journée à tous
Il y a assez de violence dans le monde, n'en rajoutez pas à ce forum.

[Hairbland]

Mar 24, 2022 12:53:41 GMT 1 nikos76 said:

STP

I didn't insult you
the truth hurts

Hairbland You sleep standing up and you pay for a hotel room

You speak in platitudes.

[yoss]

Mar 24, 2022 12:29:10 GMT 1 nikos76 said:

The Adams family.

10 wars, 6 million deaths, 0 sanctions.





If you are reading, take a good look at the photo and think



Have a nice day 

And finally Trump is I think the only American president who did not go to war if I'm wrong I apologize

I don’t normally say these things, but for Nikos76 to just come out and post this crap, I have to reply:

To Nikos76…from an American…go F yourself.

if it weren’t for America, a lot of you would now be speaking German (no offense to Germans) and goose-stepping to fascists.  

if it weren’t for America, Russia would still be the USSR and countries like Ukraine and Georgia wouldn’t even exist as free-standing nations.

But I’ll assume you are apologizing and from America, we say you’re welcome…

and trump didn’t go to war because he was licking the boots of other fascists like Putin and Kim.  And he pushed Syrian freedom fighters under the bus by not only withdrawing American support teams, but by limiting the supplies we gave them.

[klyde]

Mar 24, 2022 14:05:17 GMT 1 yoss said:

Mar 24, 2022 12:29:10 GMT 1 nikos76 said:

The Adams family.

10 wars, 6 million deaths, 0 sanctions.





If you are reading, take a good look at the photo and think



Have a nice day 

And finally Trump is I think the only American president who did not go to war if I'm wrong I apologize

I don’t normally say these things, but for Nikos76 to just come out and post this crap, I have to reply:

To Nikos76…from an American…go F yourself.

if it weren’t for America, a lot of you would now be speaking German (no offense to Germans) and goose-stepping to fascists.  

if it weren’t for America, Russia would still be the USSR and countries like Ukraine and Georgia wouldn’t even exist as free-standing nations.

But I’ll assume you are apologizing and from America, we say you’re welcome…

and trump didn’t go to war because he was licking the boots of other fascists like Putin and Kim.  And he pushed Syrian freedom fighters under the bus by not only withdrawing American support teams, but by limiting the supplies we gave them.

"if it weren’t for America, a lot of you would now be speaking German"

Oh dear....

[sameoldthing]

Dropping the bombs on Japan was pretty shit!

[Viennese]

Oh wow… so much to unpack here! Can we just try a little harder to have interesting discussions with at least some depth? To randomly lump together several wars without context is just stupid. What is your point? To just put your Anti-Americanism somewhere?

Regarding listing previous wars, Serbian football fans would do well with taking a good look at their own history first as their country didn’t quite “give peace a chance” not too long ago!

And to yoss’s point: yes, that’s why context matters. If my country would be taken over by Nazis (again) I certainly would not count on Putin!

[klyde]

Mar 24, 2022 13:02:15 GMT 1 Acme Thunderer said:

Mar 24, 2022 12:48:16 GMT 1 STP said:

You say nothing about Russia's war crimes but criticise people and media in the west for not being upset about other theatres of war and death which you use to hide behind without displaying similar outrage, anger or concern for Russia's actions, and are weirdly eager to believe Zelensky is a Nazi or western pawn.

We see right through you.

Fuck Putin, and fuck you.

It’s a shame when we see forum members tell others to FU.

I don’t think there is any excuse for such aggressive language regardless whether you disagree or agree.

I wish there were mods who could ensure this is not tolerated. It just puts off others wanting to contribute to any of the threads.

It can’t be that difficult to behave like a responsible adult.

"I don’t think there is any excuse for such aggressive language regardless whether you disagree or agree."


Its just swearing for fucksake. 

[3D Monkey]

Mar 24, 2022 17:46:30 GMT 1 klyde said:

Mar 24, 2022 13:02:15 GMT 1 Acme Thunderer said:

It’s a shame when we see forum members tell others to FU.

I don’t think there is any excuse for such aggressive language regardless whether you disagree or agree.

I wish there were mods who could ensure this is not tolerated. It just puts off others wanting to contribute to any of the threads.

It can’t be that difficult to behave like a responsible adult.

"I don’t think there is any excuse for such aggressive language regardless whether you disagree or agree."


Its just swearing for fucksake. 

No swearing? On a forum to which its very foundations lay on supporting perceived subversive/urban crime? - Oh Fiddlesticks!
Will the controversy never end???

[3D Monkey]

Mar 24, 2022 17:46:30 GMT 1 klyde said:

Mar 24, 2022 13:02:15 GMT 1 Acme Thunderer said:

It’s a shame when we see forum members tell others to FU.

I don’t think there is any excuse for such aggressive language regardless whether you disagree or agree.

I wish there were mods who could ensure this is not tolerated. It just puts off others wanting to contribute to any of the threads.

It can’t be that difficult to behave like a responsible adult.

"I don’t think there is any excuse for such aggressive language regardless whether you disagree or agree."


Its just swearing for fucksake. 

No swearing? On a forum to which its very foundations lay on supporting perceived subversive/urban crime? - Oh Fiddlesticks!
Will the controversy never end???

[Jules Leotard]

Mar 24, 2022 12:48:16 GMT 1 STP said:

Mar 19, 2022 20:35:11 GMT 1 nikos76 said:

It's not just Ukraine that's at war
I don't understand why people close their eyes to other countries. In Africa a lot of people are starving and they have distributed a lot of money for arms. I boycott

Mar 19, 2022 22:01:04 GMT 1 nikos76 said:

I am neither for the Russians nor for Ukraine, I am for peace.
I don't see people talking about the media who don't give a damn about us.
Soon it will be read that there are no Nazis on either side.

You don't appear to be "for" peace. The Ukrainian military is inside its internationally recognized borders. The Ukrainian military isn't bombing heavily-populated areas inside Russia.
You muddy your argument bringing other conflicts into the discussion.  None of those other conflicts could evolve into WW3, but you are acting like the West should be involved in those too - which would then allow you to say U.S's "20 wars" instead of "10".  Apparently only you can have it both ways, criticize involvement and criticize lack of involvement. 

[startimeash]

Mar 24, 2022 14:05:17 GMT 1 yoss said:

Mar 24, 2022 12:29:10 GMT 1 nikos76 said:

The Adams family.

10 wars, 6 million deaths, 0 sanctions.





If you are reading, take a good look at the photo and think



Have a nice day 

And finally Trump is I think the only American president who did not go to war if I'm wrong I apologize

I don’t normally say these things, but for Nikos76 to just come out and post this crap, I have to reply:

To Nikos76…from an American…go F yourself.

if it weren’t for America, a lot of you would now be speaking German (no offense to Germans) and goose-stepping to fascists.  

if it weren’t for America, Russia would still be the USSR and countries like Ukraine and Georgia wouldn’t even exist as free-standing nations.

But I’ll assume you are apologizing and from America, we say you’re welcome…

and trump didn’t go to war because he was licking the boots of other fascists like Putin and Kim.  And he pushed Syrian freedom fighters under the bus by not only withdrawing American support teams, but by limiting the supplies we gave them.

I don't agree with Nikos AT ALL, but the above reading of history is so wrong that I don't know where to begin. The reason we are not "all speaking German" is because of Zhukov and the Russian army grinding the German war machine down on the Eastern Front. You only need look at the casualty figures to see that. The Western Front was a tea party in comparison. By the time of the D-Day landings the German army was in pieces; Rommel and Sepp Dietrich fought a pretty valiant campaign with what they had left, but with Hitler determined to micro-manage everything even down to the company level, the war was already lost. The USA helped tremendously in that regard, and also in supplying Britain before 1944, but the Red Army would've taken Berlin by 1946 at the latest even without the Western allies.

The USSR also began collapsing way before Reagan tried to spend it to death; it was shown up in Afghanistan as it is being in Ukraine. The bulwark against Communism in Europe was West Germany, and ironically many of the rehabilitated Nazis that made it into the post-war government. The USSR, as with all planned economies, was unable to react swiftly enough to changing needs and technological advances. Why do you think that China and Deng Xiaoping moved away from the Maoist command economy at the start of the 1980s? The USSR was already decaying; Reagan just gave it a final kick.

I get your sentiment, but you are doing yourself and the USA no favours with this sort of jingoistic clap-trap, especially when all decent historians consider it bollocks.

[Acme Thunderer]

Mar 24, 2022 18:40:13 GMT 1 3D Monkey said:

Mar 24, 2022 17:46:30 GMT 1 klyde said:

"I don’t think there is any excuse for such aggressive language regardless whether you disagree or agree."


Its just swearing for fucksake. 

No swearing? On a forum to which its very foundations lay on supporting perceived subversive/urban crime? - Oh Fiddlesticks!
Will the controversy never end???

Can’t see where we said no swearing, but some members do overstep the mark with how aggressive they can be. For those who are on the receiving end it can’t be pleasant so there should be no excuses.

[golft]

Did somebody pull a Bait & Switch on me, because I could've sworn I joined an Art Forum and not a Politics Forum.

I just wanted to find out more info about 3D's art work and the 2 timed prints and see what people thought about them...my bad.

[yoss]

I am sorry. Yes, I could have written it better, but when someone comes outright to bash America, I won’t stand for it. We are not perfect…far from it. But more than a century, we have helped so many countries and the people found in them. Again, not perfect, but we try.

We supply countries after natural disasters, we find vaccines and cures, we support NATO and the World Bank, we give billions in aid and weaponry to countries like Ukraine.

We try.  And we try again.  We’re not perfect but America is a damn fine country.

And to note on history, the US supported Britain and free-France even before we got into the war. Once we were in the war, we pushed back hitler from the brink of crossing the English Channel, we pushed Vichy France back, kicked the Nazi’s out of Africa and took Mussolini out of power. Russia wasn’t involved until Hitler stupidly decided to fight a 2 front war. Yes, the casualties around Leningrad and Stalingrad (Saint Petersburg and Volgograd) were astounding because neither side wanted to give in and the massive civilian casualties, but that doesn’t count for the change in the tide when the US supported Europe and then entered the war.

As for the USSR, the earlier posting was correct that Afghanistan was their downfall…but who supplied the mujahideen to drain the life and money out of the USSR? Yep, America.

And lastly, yes, we dropped two nukes on Japan. They were not going to surrender until the very lst Japanese person was dead and all the Americans (and Aussies) killed to get to that point. As horrific as those bombs were (and yes we warned days ahead to get out of town), it saved hundreds of thousands of American and Aussie lives.  And ended WWII.

[Jules Leotard]

Mar 24, 2022 19:22:43 GMT 1 golft said:

Did somebody pull a Bait & Switch on me, because I could've sworn I joined an Art Forum and not a Politics Forum.

I just wanted to find out more info about 3D's art work and the 2 timed prints and see what people thought about them...my bad.

uh...

you realize this thread is for Robert Del Naja prints that were created to support the victims of the conflict in Ukraine, right? sort of political in nature.

[Jules Leotard]

Mar 24, 2022 19:22:10 GMT 1 Acme Thunderer said:

Mar 24, 2022 18:40:13 GMT 1 3D Monkey said:

No swearing? On a forum to which its very foundations lay on supporting perceived subversive/urban crime? - Oh Fiddlesticks!
Will the controversy never end???

Can’t see where we said no swearing, but some members do overstep the mark with how aggressive they can be. For those who are on the receiving end it can’t be pleasant so there should be no excuses.

Seems to be a fine line between aggressive language and passionate discourse. 

[3D Monkey]

Mar 24, 2022 19:22:10 GMT 1 Acme Thunderer said:

Mar 24, 2022 18:40:13 GMT 1 3D Monkey said:

No swearing? On a forum to which its very foundations lay on supporting perceived subversive/urban crime? - Oh Fiddlesticks!
Will the controversy never end???

Can’t see where we said no swearing, but some members do overstep the mark with how aggressive they can be. For those who are on the receiving end it can’t be pleasant so there should be no excuses.

Being obnoxious and swearing are 2 very different subjects: The context was clearly in-regards to the latter

[startimeash]

Mar 24, 2022 19:45:42 GMT 1 yoss said:

I am sorry. Yes, I could have written it better, but when someone comes outright to bash America, I won’t stand for it. We are not perfect…far from it. But more than a century, we have helped so many countries and the people found in them. Again, not perfect, but we try.

We supply countries after natural disasters, we find vaccines and cures, we support NATO and the World Bank, we give billions in aid and weaponry to countries like Ukraine.

We try.  And we try again.  We’re not perfect but America is a damn fine country.

And to note on history, the US supported Britain and free-France even before we got into the war. Once we were in the war, we pushed back hitler from the brink of crossing the English Channel, we pushed Vichy France back, kicked the Nazi’s out of Africa and took Mussolini out of power. Russia wasn’t involved until Hitler stupidly decided to fight a 2 front war. Yes, the casualties around Leningrad and Stalingrad (Saint Petersburg and Volgograd) were astounding because neither side wanted to give in and the massive civilian casualties, but that doesn’t count for the change in the tide when the US supported Europe and then entered the war.

As for the USSR, the earlier posting was correct that Afghanistan was their downfall…but who supplied the mujahideen to drain the life and money out of the USSR? Yep, America.

And lastly, yes, we dropped two nukes on Japan. They were not going to surrender until the very lst Japanese person was dead and all the Americans (and Aussies) killed to get to that point. As horrific as those bombs were (and yes we warned days ahead to get out of town), it saved hundreds of thousands of American and Aussie lives.  And ended WWII.

"Once we were in the war, we pushed back hitler from the brink of crossing the English Channel" - this is just factually incorrect; Operation Sealion was cancelled as the failure of Goerring and the Luftwaffe to stop the Dunkirk evacuation meant that Britain was able to regroup. Guderian had wanted to take Dunkirk with his Panzer army but Goerring persuaded Hitler that he could stop the evacuation without ground troops. Once that failed, the British Navy was more than capable of containing the German equivalent. Hitler felt able to take on Russia as he felt (wrongly) that Churchill would sue for peace. Even if the Nazis had gained air superiority, an invasion would've been too costly.

"kicked the Nazi’s out of Africa" - again, not true

"took Mussolini out of power" - Mussolini was deposed by the Fascist council and replaced by Marshall Badoglio; no American involvement there.

"that doesn’t count for the change in the tide when the US supported Europe and then entered the war." - again, factually incorrect; after Hitler foolishly decided against taking Moscow when he had the chance, and diverted to the south to try and secure the oil fields, the war was lost, as it gave Stalin the time to regroup and begin to trust his Generals again. The Soviet army lost around 9m soldiers rolling up the Eastern Front; in comparison the USA lost less than 500,000 in the West.

I'm not going to get into the argument around the atomic bombings (you're wrong there, too) as otherwise this would go on forever. Suffice to say, please read some books on the war and educate yourself around the relative prices paid by the allies. No one is saying that the USA did not help immensely, but your reading of what actually happened is just completely wrong. The Wehrmacht of 1942 would've taken and kept all of western Europe, and would easily have handled the Normandy landings. America and Britain were key members of the coalition to beat the Nazis, but without the Russians we would have lost. To say anything else is historically illiterate.

[golft]

Mar 24, 2022 19:53:07 GMT 1 Jules Leotard said:

Mar 24, 2022 19:22:43 GMT 1 golft said:

Did somebody pull a Bait & Switch on me, because I could've sworn I joined an Art Forum and not a Politics Forum.

I just wanted to find out more info about 3D's art work and the 2 timed prints and see what people thought about them...my bad.

uh...

you realize this thread is for Robert Del Naja prints that were created to support the victims of the conflict in Ukraine, right? sort of political in nature.

I get it and completely understand that, but this shit went off the rails after the Original Post about the prints and then most of the post after that are about War and foul language.

Again, being a newbie, and trying to learn the ropes around here, I apologize for thinking this post was going to be about Robert '3D' Del Naja's prints.

[Deleted]

Mar 24, 2022 20:25:17 GMT 1 startimeash said:

Mar 24, 2022 19:45:42 GMT 1 yoss said:

I am sorry. Yes, I could have written it better, but when someone comes outright to bash America, I won’t stand for it. We are not perfect…far from it. But more than a century, we have helped so many countries and the people found in them. Again, not perfect, but we try.

We supply countries after natural disasters, we find vaccines and cures, we support NATO and the World Bank, we give billions in aid and weaponry to countries like Ukraine.

We try.  And we try again.  We’re not perfect but America is a damn fine country.

And to note on history, the US supported Britain and free-France even before we got into the war. Once we were in the war, we pushed back hitler from the brink of crossing the English Channel, we pushed Vichy France back, kicked the Nazi’s out of Africa and took Mussolini out of power. Russia wasn’t involved until Hitler stupidly decided to fight a 2 front war. Yes, the casualties around Leningrad and Stalingrad (Saint Petersburg and Volgograd) were astounding because neither side wanted to give in and the massive civilian casualties, but that doesn’t count for the change in the tide when the US supported Europe and then entered the war.

As for the USSR, the earlier posting was correct that Afghanistan was their downfall…but who supplied the mujahideen to drain the life and money out of the USSR? Yep, America.

And lastly, yes, we dropped two nukes on Japan. They were not going to surrender until the very lst Japanese person was dead and all the Americans (and Aussies) killed to get to that point. As horrific as those bombs were (and yes we warned days ahead to get out of town), it saved hundreds of thousands of American and Aussie lives.  And ended WWII.

"Once we were in the war, we pushed back hitler from the brink of crossing the English Channel" - this is just factually incorrect; Operation Sealion was cancelled as the failure of Goerring and the Luftwaffe to stop the Dunkirk evacuation meant that Britain was able to regroup. Guderian had wanted to take Dunkirk with his Panzer army but Goerring persuaded Hitler that he could stop the evacuation without ground troops. Once that failed, the British Navy was more than capable of containing the German equivalent. Hitler felt able to take on Russia as he felt (wrongly) that Churchill would sue for peace. Even if the Nazis had gained air superiority, an invasion would've been too costly.

"kicked the Nazi’s out of Africa" - again, not true

"took Mussolini out of power" - Mussolini was deposed by the Fascist council and replaced by Marshall Badoglio; no American involvement there.

"that doesn’t count for the change in the tide when the US supported Europe and then entered the war." - again, factually incorrect; after Hitler foolishly decided against taking Moscow when he had the chance, and diverted to the south to try and secure the oil fields, the war was lost, as it gave Stalin the time to regroup and begin to trust his Generals again. The Soviet army lost around 9m soldiers rolling up the Eastern Front; in comparison the USA lost less than 500,000 in the West.

I'm not going to get into the argument around the atomic bombings (you're wrong there, too) as otherwise this would go on forever. Suffice to say, please read some books on the war and educate yourself around the relative prices paid by the allies. No one is saying that the USA did not help immensely, but your reading of what actually happened is just completely wrong. The Wehrmacht of 1942 would've taken and kept all of western Europe, and would easily have handled the Normandy landings. America and Britain were key members of the coalition to beat the Nazis, but without the Russians we would have lost. To say anything else is historically illiterate.

Wasn't it the soviets declaring war on Japan that was the major reason for their surrender?

[startimeash]

Mar 24, 2022 20:32:22 GMT 1 @runt said:

Mar 24, 2022 20:25:17 GMT 1 startimeash said:

"Once we were in the war, we pushed back hitler from the brink of crossing the English Channel" - this is just factually incorrect; Operation Sealion was cancelled as the failure of Goerring and the Luftwaffe to stop the Dunkirk evacuation meant that Britain was able to regroup. Guderian had wanted to take Dunkirk with his Panzer army but Goerring persuaded Hitler that he could stop the evacuation without ground troops. Once that failed, the British Navy was more than capable of containing the German equivalent. Hitler felt able to take on Russia as he felt (wrongly) that Churchill would sue for peace. Even if the Nazis had gained air superiority, an invasion would've been too costly.

"kicked the Nazi’s out of Africa" - again, not true

"took Mussolini out of power" - Mussolini was deposed by the Fascist council and replaced by Marshall Badoglio; no American involvement there.

"that doesn’t count for the change in the tide when the US supported Europe and then entered the war." - again, factually incorrect; after Hitler foolishly decided against taking Moscow when he had the chance, and diverted to the south to try and secure the oil fields, the war was lost, as it gave Stalin the time to regroup and begin to trust his Generals again. The Soviet army lost around 9m soldiers rolling up the Eastern Front; in comparison the USA lost less than 500,000 in the West.

I'm not going to get into the argument around the atomic bombings (you're wrong there, too) as otherwise this would go on forever. Suffice to say, please read some books on the war and educate yourself around the relative prices paid by the allies. No one is saying that the USA did not help immensely, but your reading of what actually happened is just completely wrong. The Wehrmacht of 1942 would've taken and kept all of western Europe, and would easily have handled the Normandy landings. America and Britain were key members of the coalition to beat the Nazis, but without the Russians we would have lost. To say anything else is historically illiterate.

Wasn't it the soviets declaring war on Japan that was the major reason for their surrender?

Yup - Russians itching for revenge from 1905

[Viennese]

Mar 24, 2022 10:57:27 GMT 1 thisisthesam said:

Leaving it till the deadline to decide. I really like both, it's frustrating haha.

The heart is easier to hang on the wall but the cutlery one feels more representative of 3D's work.

On the latter, is that an eye in the mouth area?

It looks like an eye but I don’t think it’s on purpose as can be seen in his similar works.

[Viennese]

Thank you for all the details and you are certainly very knowledgeable about this matter and I believe noone tried to imply that the US alone defeated the Axis, at the same time I also don’t think that this matter can be broken down to just war tactics and battles fought. Speaking to the point that I believe was made: We can count ourselves very lucky that the US intervened (no matter timing or motives). If they hadn’t especially the aftermath would have looked very differently if only the USSR, UK and F would have been at the table when negotiating about the future of Europe… I might have grown up speaking Russian




Edit: quoted the wrong part before

[lollie]

Mar 25, 2022 9:07:54 GMT 1 @loveunites said:

Can anyone who knows how do do an online frame mock up please throw a link or some tips in here? I want to have a dabble with print 2.

Thank you. And good morning UAA!

I use easyframe.co.uk to see what the framing would look like.
You can upload your pictures then try out different framing.