Curley
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by Curley on Jan 29, 2008 14:14:49 GMT 1, Big article on Street art etc in todays Time Out.
Big article on Street art etc in todays Time Out.
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by daley on Jan 30, 2008 13:12:39 GMT 1, Got the bugger sat on my desk as I type - haven't read it yet...
Got the bugger sat on my desk as I type - haven't read it yet...
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by daley on Jan 30, 2008 13:35:56 GMT 1, "buyers beware: print editions are often too numerous to be likely to attain much value"
"buyers beware: print editions are often too numerous to be likely to attain much value"
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Pure Evil
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December 2006
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by mammal2 on Feb 3, 2008 16:55:43 GMT 1, Cool pics Pure Evil!
Cool pics Pure Evil!
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by Daniel Silk on Mar 2, 2010 21:02:42 GMT 1, www.timeout.com/london/art/article/863/banksy
You can Subscribe to Time Out London here - secure.subsforce.com/TOUT/TIM/ONMISC?DCMP=OTC-subs-mast-london
Reclusive street artist, Banksy, comes out of the shadows to tell Time Out about his notoriety, ongoing graffiti wars and increasing the value of London property. But not to plug his new film.
Many people claim to have done so, but I have indeed met - albeit accidentally - the real Banksy, an unremarkable, medium-build man wearing glasses, at an East End graffiti jam a few years ago. However, direct access to him is strictly limited nowadays. Banksy nevertheless agreed to an exclusive interview to settle some scores and to create a brand new piece of work for Time Out's cover, in which he revisits some of his classic pieces featuring royal Foot Guards variously pissing or spraying graffiti on walls. After lots of waiting and furtive messaging, the trail having gone cold many times, he responded to our questions from his bomb-proof bunker. But like Kirk Douglas, I had to make sure that this really was Spartacus first…
Is this definitely you? After all, some hacks have been duped into unofficial interviews with imposters, naming no names (the Guardian Guide)… 'I wish you were talking to an imposter. I don't have much of a personality, so it's difficult to "be" one. Also I want to talk up the film, but I don't want to talk about it - I'm worried I might ruin the ending. Can we just run a blank page that people can draw on?'
Can you at least say why you've dubbed this the first ever street-art 'disaster movie'? Does that mean it's your last film? 'I consider this whole experience to be a disaster on many levels. I think it will be known as my first movie, the one that didn't lead to a career in filmmaking.'
First came the art, then your move into animatronics, then a feature film… does that make you the next Walt Disney? 'I'd never thought about it like that. I guess opening a giant theme park for vandals would be next. I was at a holiday camp when ìLicense to Illî by the Beastie Boys came out. Practically every kid had a VW badge hanging around their necks that they'd stolen off a car in town. I remember the police raided the camp and the mayor came and gave us a stern lecture by the paddling pool.'
Now that your mugshot has appeared in the paper, do you get recognised on the street? 'I know a couple of years ago a bloke claimed he was Banksy to get into a nightclub in Shoreditch and when word went around he got a kicking off some other graffiti writers. It's in my interest not to comment on any of the photos doing the rounds.'
What's this battle with Robbo and Drax all about, then? 'I didn't deliberately start a battle with Robbo - have you seen the size of him? In the '90s him and Drax were infamous enough that we'd even heard about them in Bristol. The truth is I didn't paint over a piece that said ìRobboî, I painted over a piece that said ìnrkjfgrekuhî. But either way, I don't buy into the idea a wall ìbelongsî to a certain writer, or anyone else for that matter.
'Traditional graffiti writers have a bunch of rules they like to stick to, and good luck to them, but I didn't become a graffiti artist so I could have somebody else tell me what to do. If you're the type who gets sentimental about people scribbling over your stuff, I suggest graffiti is probably not the right hobby for you.'
You are accused by the graffiti community of selling them out? How do you plead? 'It's hard to know what ìselling outî means - these days you can make more money producing a run of anti-McDonald's posters than you can make designing actual posters for McDonald's.
'I tell myself I use art to promote dissent, but maybe I am just using dissent to promote my art. I plead not guilty to selling out. But I plead it from a bigger house than I used to live in.'
Can street art ever be shown in a gallery? 'I don't know if street art ever really works indoors. If you domesticate an animal, it goes from being wild and free to sterile, fat and sleepy. So maybe the art should stay outside. Then again, some old people get a lot of comfort from having a pet around the house.
'It's hard to capture the adrenaline of street painting when you're in a nicely lit studio with the kettle on. Maybe the people who steal graffiti off walls are on to something - the edge is still there. But those people are funny - they ask me for a letter of authentication saying I painted a certain piece, but that's basically a signed confession on headed notepaper.'
So you want your art to be preserved for the nation? 'It's impossible to predict which paintings will last and which won't. In New Orleans I painted on a dilapidated shop in a street littered with abandoned cars and rotting mattresses, then two hours later the piece was gone. It turned out I'd picked the side of a crack house and the proprietor didn't like the attention.
'The one thing you can rely on is if you get disturbed halfway through a painting and it looks a bit naff, then someone will preserve that piece, remove it and a few months later it'll be paraded round Sotheby's by people wearing white gloves.'
What do you make of the financial value of your works? Do you mind people trading them like property or luxury goods? 'My lawyer's opinion is that the cops might not actually be able to charge me with criminal damage any more - because theoretically my graffiti actually increases the value of property rather than decreasing it. That's his theory, but then my lawyer also believes wearing novelty cartoon ties is a good look.'
Finally, did you enjoy producing our cover? 'I'm not sure what the cover means - there's less to it than meets the eye…'
www.timeout.com/london/art/article/863/banksyYou can Subscribe to Time Out London here - secure.subsforce.com/TOUT/TIM/ONMISC?DCMP=OTC-subs-mast-londonReclusive street artist, Banksy, comes out of the shadows to tell Time Out about his notoriety, ongoing graffiti wars and increasing the value of London property. But not to plug his new film. Many people claim to have done so, but I have indeed met - albeit accidentally - the real Banksy, an unremarkable, medium-build man wearing glasses, at an East End graffiti jam a few years ago. However, direct access to him is strictly limited nowadays. Banksy nevertheless agreed to an exclusive interview to settle some scores and to create a brand new piece of work for Time Out's cover, in which he revisits some of his classic pieces featuring royal Foot Guards variously pissing or spraying graffiti on walls. After lots of waiting and furtive messaging, the trail having gone cold many times, he responded to our questions from his bomb-proof bunker. But like Kirk Douglas, I had to make sure that this really was Spartacus first… Is this definitely you? After all, some hacks have been duped into unofficial interviews with imposters, naming no names (the Guardian Guide)… 'I wish you were talking to an imposter. I don't have much of a personality, so it's difficult to "be" one. Also I want to talk up the film, but I don't want to talk about it - I'm worried I might ruin the ending. Can we just run a blank page that people can draw on?'Can you at least say why you've dubbed this the first ever street-art 'disaster movie'? Does that mean it's your last film? 'I consider this whole experience to be a disaster on many levels. I think it will be known as my first movie, the one that didn't lead to a career in filmmaking.'First came the art, then your move into animatronics, then a feature film… does that make you the next Walt Disney? 'I'd never thought about it like that. I guess opening a giant theme park for vandals would be next. I was at a holiday camp when ìLicense to Illî by the Beastie Boys came out. Practically every kid had a VW badge hanging around their necks that they'd stolen off a car in town. I remember the police raided the camp and the mayor came and gave us a stern lecture by the paddling pool.'Now that your mugshot has appeared in the paper, do you get recognised on the street? 'I know a couple of years ago a bloke claimed he was Banksy to get into a nightclub in Shoreditch and when word went around he got a kicking off some other graffiti writers. It's in my interest not to comment on any of the photos doing the rounds.'What's this battle with Robbo and Drax all about, then? 'I didn't deliberately start a battle with Robbo - have you seen the size of him? In the '90s him and Drax were infamous enough that we'd even heard about them in Bristol. The truth is I didn't paint over a piece that said ìRobboî, I painted over a piece that said ìnrkjfgrekuhî. But either way, I don't buy into the idea a wall ìbelongsî to a certain writer, or anyone else for that matter.'Traditional graffiti writers have a bunch of rules they like to stick to, and good luck to them, but I didn't become a graffiti artist so I could have somebody else tell me what to do. If you're the type who gets sentimental about people scribbling over your stuff, I suggest graffiti is probably not the right hobby for you.'You are accused by the graffiti community of selling them out? How do you plead? 'It's hard to know what ìselling outî means - these days you can make more money producing a run of anti-McDonald's posters than you can make designing actual posters for McDonald's.'I tell myself I use art to promote dissent, but maybe I am just using dissent to promote my art. I plead not guilty to selling out. But I plead it from a bigger house than I used to live in.'Can street art ever be shown in a gallery? 'I don't know if street art ever really works indoors. If you domesticate an animal, it goes from being wild and free to sterile, fat and sleepy. So maybe the art should stay outside. Then again, some old people get a lot of comfort from having a pet around the house.'It's hard to capture the adrenaline of street painting when you're in a nicely lit studio with the kettle on. Maybe the people who steal graffiti off walls are on to something - the edge is still there. But those people are funny - they ask me for a letter of authentication saying I painted a certain piece, but that's basically a signed confession on headed notepaper.'So you want your art to be preserved for the nation? 'It's impossible to predict which paintings will last and which won't. In New Orleans I painted on a dilapidated shop in a street littered with abandoned cars and rotting mattresses, then two hours later the piece was gone. It turned out I'd picked the side of a crack house and the proprietor didn't like the attention.'The one thing you can rely on is if you get disturbed halfway through a painting and it looks a bit naff, then someone will preserve that piece, remove it and a few months later it'll be paraded round Sotheby's by people wearing white gloves.'What do you make of the financial value of your works? Do you mind people trading them like property or luxury goods? 'My lawyer's opinion is that the cops might not actually be able to charge me with criminal damage any more - because theoretically my graffiti actually increases the value of property rather than decreasing it. That's his theory, but then my lawyer also believes wearing novelty cartoon ties is a good look.'Finally, did you enjoy producing our cover? 'I'm not sure what the cover means - there's less to it than meets the eye…'
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illu
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December 2009
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by illu on Mar 2, 2010 21:26:02 GMT 1, thanks for that silky
thanks for that silky
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rowan
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August 2008
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by rowan on Mar 2, 2010 21:41:00 GMT 1, Its sorter than i expected, after all the hype it was given... But still, a nice read none the less///
Its sorter than i expected, after all the hype it was given... But still, a nice read none the less///
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scandi
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December 2009
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by scandi on Mar 2, 2010 21:55:44 GMT 1, Some fantastic statements in that interview. Thanks for posting Silky.
Some fantastic statements in that interview. Thanks for posting Silky.
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aspyhole
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November 2007
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by aspyhole on Mar 3, 2010 15:18:44 GMT 1, Good fun all round.
A
Good fun all round.
A
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by Daniel Silk on Mar 3, 2010 18:36:40 GMT 1, TimeOut London - Banksy's, 'Exit Through The Gift Shop'
TimeOut London - Banksy's, 'Exit Through The Gift Shop'
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by orval kinorval on Mar 4, 2010 17:19:53 GMT 1, is anyone else depressed by this? wasn't it better when he wasn't doing timeout interviews and exclusive covers? i'm just getting the feeling that the banksy we knew and loved is over. Orval wept.
is anyone else depressed by this? wasn't it better when he wasn't doing timeout interviews and exclusive covers? i'm just getting the feeling that the banksy we knew and loved is over. Orval wept.
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Wearology
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April 2008
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by Wearology on Mar 4, 2010 17:47:32 GMT 1, I think the Banksy we knew and loved had left us long ago - In America we call it "jumping the shark" - The man sold a painting in collaboration with Hirst for 1.6 million dollars.
I think the Banksy we knew and loved had left us long ago - In America we call it "jumping the shark" - The man sold a painting in collaboration with Hirst for 1.6 million dollars.
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faroutman
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September 2007
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by faroutman on Mar 4, 2010 17:52:26 GMT 1, is anyone else depressed by this? wasn't it better when he wasn't doing timeout interviews and exclusive covers? i'm just getting the feeling that the banksy we knew and loved is over. Orval wept.
No
is anyone else depressed by this? wasn't it better when he wasn't doing timeout interviews and exclusive covers? i'm just getting the feeling that the banksy we knew and loved is over. Orval wept. No
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by stillborncrisps on Mar 9, 2010 20:49:35 GMT 1, Was lucky enough to get an undamaged Time Out poster - would like to swap for an unfolded Forgive Us Don't Panic poster.
Am in London.
Was lucky enough to get an undamaged Time Out poster - would like to swap for an unfolded Forgive Us Don't Panic poster.
Am in London.
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Frndly Fire
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December 2008
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by Frndly Fire on May 31, 2010 9:51:22 GMT 1, Hi,
I have a spare Banksy Time Out Sydney limited edition print (limited to 500).
I didnt realise the gallery would be selliing them so already signed up for the Time Out offer. I now cant cancel this order.
As it's often quite difficult to get people to send things to Sydney i would like to trade this for something else. So if you would like the print pm me with your trades and we can work out a swap.
Cheers, Tom.
Hi,
I have a spare Banksy Time Out Sydney limited edition print (limited to 500).
I didnt realise the gallery would be selliing them so already signed up for the Time Out offer. I now cant cancel this order.
As it's often quite difficult to get people to send things to Sydney i would like to trade this for something else. So if you would like the print pm me with your trades and we can work out a swap.
Cheers, Tom.
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disclizard
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March 2010
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by disclizard on May 31, 2010 21:43:32 GMT 1, I will trade a Time Out NY poster for it... let me know!
I will trade a Time Out NY poster for it... let me know!
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eduarandres
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January 2009
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by eduarandres on May 31, 2010 22:11:48 GMT 1, im looking for one if anyone has a spare one
im looking for one if anyone has a spare one
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jellya
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November 2006
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by jellya on May 31, 2010 22:23:01 GMT 1, I have Don't Panic 'Forgive us our Trespassing' poster.
I have Don't Panic 'Forgive us our Trespassing' poster.
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schnulli
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February 2010
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by schnulli on Jun 1, 2010 1:16:18 GMT 1, Time Out Sydney have opened a one-off exception for international buyers. The link below explains. You'll need to either call them or email them to lock one in. AU$60 still a bargain IMO. www.timeoutsydney.com.au/Global/magazine-subscriptions.aspx
Don't try subscribing online. It's not working for o/s orders.
Time Out Sydney have opened a one-off exception for international buyers. The link below explains. You'll need to either call them or email them to lock one in. AU$60 still a bargain IMO. www.timeoutsydney.com.au/Global/magazine-subscriptions.aspxDon't try subscribing online. It's not working for o/s orders.
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by rosstierney on Jun 1, 2010 1:32:57 GMT 1, Time Out Sydney have opened a one-off exception for international buyers. The link below explains. You'll need to either call them or email them to lock one in. AU$60 still a bargain IMO. www.timeoutsydney.com.au/Global/magazine-subscriptions.aspxDon't try subscribing online. It's not working for o/s orders.
£35 to receive a a beat-up poster, a bargain?
Time Out Sydney have opened a one-off exception for international buyers. The link below explains. You'll need to either call them or email them to lock one in. AU$60 still a bargain IMO. www.timeoutsydney.com.au/Global/magazine-subscriptions.aspxDon't try subscribing online. It's not working for o/s orders. £35 to receive a a beat-up poster, a bargain?
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OutsideIn
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May 2008
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by OutsideIn on Jun 1, 2010 1:40:04 GMT 1, the time out logo just ruins it anyway.
the time out logo just ruins it anyway.
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disclizard
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March 2010
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by disclizard on Jun 1, 2010 1:40:21 GMT 1, My Time Out New York posters arrived in perfect shape... the London debacle is another story, but I like the rats better anyways.
My Time Out New York posters arrived in perfect shape... the London debacle is another story, but I like the rats better anyways.
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schnulli
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February 2010
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by schnulli on Jun 1, 2010 2:12:30 GMT 1, Why's it going to be beat-up? My Time Out NY arrived in perfect shape.
Why's it going to be beat-up? My Time Out NY arrived in perfect shape.
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Frndly Fire
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December 2008
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by Frndly Fire on Jun 1, 2010 3:31:13 GMT 1, I wouldnt bother signing up for time out if you only want the print as they are all gone. When i called they told me i was in time for the offer but they had given out the rest of their allocation fairly quickly.
The one i ordered from time out takes 6-8 weeks apparently, but i get to pick up the one i have from the gallery tomorrow night.
I will post a pic when i get it. And also reply to trade PMs when the print is in hand.
I wouldnt bother signing up for time out if you only want the print as they are all gone. When i called they told me i was in time for the offer but they had given out the rest of their allocation fairly quickly.
The one i ordered from time out takes 6-8 weeks apparently, but i get to pick up the one i have from the gallery tomorrow night.
I will post a pic when i get it. And also reply to trade PMs when the print is in hand.
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otomi
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July 2007
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by otomi on Jun 1, 2010 4:17:29 GMT 1, I think it is a fair deal - it is limited to 500 and licensed (not some bootleg)
I think it is a fair deal - it is limited to 500 and licensed (not some bootleg)
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ricardob
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March 2008
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by ricardob on Jun 1, 2010 9:24:47 GMT 1, If all the prints are gone by now, then Time Out have a problem, because you can still subscribe at their website and get the free print. Maybe you can't do it by phone, but certainly at their website if delivered in Australia. I just did it. They will probably cancel it and people will complain, or they will extend the edition and people will complain. I hope I am wrong and they will manage 500 prints.
If all the prints are gone by now, then Time Out have a problem, because you can still subscribe at their website and get the free print. Maybe you can't do it by phone, but certainly at their website if delivered in Australia. I just did it. They will probably cancel it and people will complain, or they will extend the edition and people will complain. I hope I am wrong and they will manage 500 prints.
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by walshy on Jun 1, 2010 9:47:17 GMT 1, I got the UK version and the Time Out logo really lets these down. Personally i'll be saving the money. Would be interested to see if these arrive here safe
I got the UK version and the Time Out logo really lets these down. Personally i'll be saving the money. Would be interested to see if these arrive here safe
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ricardob
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March 2008
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by ricardob on Jun 1, 2010 9:52:22 GMT 1, I don't like the logo aswell, but I think it will be possible to cover the logo in that one when framed.
I don't like the logo aswell, but I think it will be possible to cover the logo in that one when framed.
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OutsideIn
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May 2008
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Banksy • Time Out Poster • Sydney, London, New York, by OutsideIn on Jun 1, 2010 9:54:54 GMT 1, I don't like the logo aswell, but I think it will be possible to cover the logo in that one when framed.
or just cut it out. i would.
I don't like the logo aswell, but I think it will be possible to cover the logo in that one when framed. or just cut it out. i would.
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