taco
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Unlimted print runs...., by taco on Apr 2, 2007 20:14:45 GMT 1, well someone bought a soupcan poster for ยฃ29.07!
Ebay item 110106495836
well someone bought a soupcan poster for ยฃ29.07!
Ebay item 110106495836
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Octopus UK
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Unlimted print runs...., by Octopus UK on Apr 2, 2007 20:21:16 GMT 1, Bizzare!
Bizzare!
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dmandpenfold
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Unlimted print runs...., by dmandpenfold on Apr 2, 2007 20:23:13 GMT 1, the worrying thing is 3 people bid above the POW price 
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hungrig
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Unlimted print runs...., by hungrig on Apr 2, 2007 20:36:25 GMT 1, Can you explain why exclusivity makes them more desirable? If there were as many Aston Martin cars as Ford cars I wouldn't like them any less.
I wouldn't want an Aston Martin if everyone had one. Nor do I wish to wear the same type of clothes as everyone else. When my favourite cult band jumps out of nowhere to become number 1 in the charts, the music I so recently loved suddenly becomes less thrilling.
I like the hunt. The chase. Finding something new and different. Exclusivity and rarity is what gets a collector really excited. Likewise for the bird watcher who has clocked a rare species. Or a trainspotter who has spotted a rare, er, train.
For contractual reasons, David Shrigley is prevented from releasing limited edition runs through POW. All his prints at POW are open editions. Although I think they are great (especially 'Time To Choose'), the fact that they are unlimited does diminish their appeal for me.
Objectively, I personally find 'Morons' to be funnier and wittier than images like 'Rude Copper' and 'Bomb Middle England'. However, given the choice, I would of course go for the older prints. Why? Simply because, for me at least, their greater rarity makes them more desirable.
Can you explain why exclusivity makes them more desirable? If there were as many Aston Martin cars as Ford cars I wouldn't like them any less. I wouldn't want an Aston Martin if everyone had one. Nor do I wish to wear the same type of clothes as everyone else. When my favourite cult band jumps out of nowhere to become number 1 in the charts, the music I so recently loved suddenly becomes less thrilling. I like the hunt. The chase. Finding something new and different. Exclusivity and rarity is what gets a collector really excited. Likewise for the bird watcher who has clocked a rare species. Or a trainspotter who has spotted a rare, er, train. For contractual reasons, David Shrigley is prevented from releasing limited edition runs through POW. All his prints at POW are open editions. Although I think they are great (especially 'Time To Choose'), the fact that they are unlimited does diminish their appeal for me. Objectively, I personally find 'Morons' to be funnier and wittier than images like 'Rude Copper' and 'Bomb Middle England'. However, given the choice, I would of course go for the older prints. Why? Simply because, for me at least, their greater rarity makes them more desirable. |
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Unlimted print runs...., by tomhills1 on Apr 2, 2007 20:46:34 GMT 1, He has already given more to charity than OASIS, THE ARCTIC MONKEYS or the ARSENAL front line so who gives a flying FxxK what he does with his growing riches.. And besides how do you know he does already give loads top charity??? you dont have a clue..I dont have clue either and dont care. Let it go.
i won't let that go. oasis, the arctic monkeys and arsenal: was that aimed at me? why don't you slag my wife and kid while you're there? ;D
He has already given more to charity than OASIS, THE ARCTIC MONKEYS or the ARSENAL front line so who gives a flying FxxK what he does with his growing riches.. And besides how do you know he does already give loads top charity??? you dont have a clue..I dont have clue either and dont care. Let it go. i won't let that go. oasis, the arctic monkeys and arsenal: was that aimed at me? why don't you slag my wife and kid while you're there? ;D |
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Strange Al
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Unlimted print runs...., by Strange Al on Apr 2, 2007 20:48:39 GMT 1, Why the hell our so many of people obsessed with possible future BANKSY print releases.. where big portions of money go to charity?? Dont get me wrong Im all for charity but why does banksy have to give money for charity when he becomes a successful artist?? I have read many many amny times on this board "POW should do this.. BANKSY should do that.. money should go to charity.." When did Banksy ever say he was here to save the world?? Get a life BANKSY should get a fxxk off porsche... which I think he has and drive it back to any one of his country houses I hope he gets fat and rich and does what ever he pleases with HIS money! He has already given more to charity than OASIS, THE ARCTIC MONKEYS or the ARSENAL front line so who gives a flying FxxK what he does with his growing riches.. And besides how do you know he does already give loads top charity??? you dont have a clue..I dont have clue either and dont care. Let it go.
Phatplanet - If you don't care then why launch into the debate? To me it looks like you feel pretty strongly about this issue. All I said was that "I'd love to see Banksy do a couple of open edition screen prints with all of the money going to charity". And that is what I would love to see ("I" being the operative word)!
I didn't say that Banksy should or had to do anything. If he's bought himself a Porsche - then good on him (I certainly would in his position). As for getting fat and rich, he's almost certainly rich and may well be fat too.
Like you say, I don't know the man personally. I can only glean what he's like from the few interviews he's given and the art he's put out there. While I have no doubt that we read more into his works than he often intends, I'm also certain that he's more politically and socially aware than your average man. And, more importantly, actually driven to do something to tackle these issues. While I don't think he's held himself out to be the saviour of the world, I do think it's the socio-political nature of much of his work, which makes him so intriguing. For me, without this he's just another run of the mill stencil artist. There's plenty of other graffers out there with more skills and style than he (by his own admission) has.
I fully accept that he's already done more for charity than many other people in equally privileged positions. We all know about the Flags print and who knows what else he already does behind the scenes.
Ultimately, fact is that Banksy and POW currently have a license to print money and who knows how long this will last. Banksy has a whole catalogue of images which haven't been made into screenprints and I'm sure we'd all love to see. I therefore think running one as an open edition with all of the money going to charity is an all-round winner. Keeps the fans happy and earns a shed load for the charity.
Why the hell our so many of people obsessed with possible future BANKSY print releases.. where big portions of money go to charity?? Dont get me wrong Im all for charity but why does banksy have to give money for charity when he becomes a successful artist?? I have read many many amny times on this board "POW should do this.. BANKSY should do that.. money should go to charity.." When did Banksy ever say he was here to save the world?? Get a life BANKSY should get a fxxk off porsche... which I think he has and drive it back to any one of his country houses I hope he gets fat and rich and does what ever he pleases with HIS money! He has already given more to charity than OASIS, THE ARCTIC MONKEYS or the ARSENAL front line so who gives a flying FxxK what he does with his growing riches.. And besides how do you know he does already give loads top charity??? you dont have a clue..I dont have clue either and dont care. Let it go. Phatplanet - If you don't care then why launch into the debate? To me it looks like you feel pretty strongly about this issue. All I said was that "I'd love to see Banksy do a couple of open edition screen prints with all of the money going to charity". And that is what I would love to see ("I" being the operative word)! I didn't say that Banksy should or had to do anything. If he's bought himself a Porsche - then good on him (I certainly would in his position). As for getting fat and rich, he's almost certainly rich and may well be fat too. Like you say, I don't know the man personally. I can only glean what he's like from the few interviews he's given and the art he's put out there. While I have no doubt that we read more into his works than he often intends, I'm also certain that he's more politically and socially aware than your average man. And, more importantly, actually driven to do something to tackle these issues. While I don't think he's held himself out to be the saviour of the world, I do think it's the socio-political nature of much of his work, which makes him so intriguing. For me, without this he's just another run of the mill stencil artist. There's plenty of other graffers out there with more skills and style than he (by his own admission) has. I fully accept that he's already done more for charity than many other people in equally privileged positions. We all know about the Flags print and who knows what else he already does behind the scenes. Ultimately, fact is that Banksy and POW currently have a license to print money and who knows how long this will last. Banksy has a whole catalogue of images which haven't been made into screenprints and I'm sure we'd all love to see. I therefore think running one as an open edition with all of the money going to charity is an all-round winner. Keeps the fans happy and earns a shed load for the charity. |
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Unlimted print runs...., by tomhills1 on Apr 2, 2007 20:49:26 GMT 1, Agreed....there is more to it than just owning a Banksy, the exclusivity that makes them even more desirable... So why do people get annoyed when others exploit that desire....POW are exploiting it, Ebay sellers are, Southeby & Christies are doing the same.....
it's like your football team ripping you off knowing you not gonna shop elsewhere as they have a monopoly on your loyalty 
Agreed....there is more to it than just owning a Banksy, the exclusivity that makes them even more desirable... So why do people get annoyed when others exploit that desire....POW are exploiting it, Ebay sellers are, Southeby & Christies are doing the same..... it's like your football team ripping you off knowing you not gonna shop elsewhere as they have a monopoly on your loyalty |
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dmandpenfold
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Unlimted print runs...., by dmandpenfold on Apr 2, 2007 20:53:25 GMT 1, you talking about arsenal again LBW
you talking about arsenal again LBW
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Unlimted print runs...., by tomhills1 on Apr 2, 2007 21:03:36 GMT 1, Can you explain why exclusivity makes them more desirable? If there were as many Aston Martin cars as Ford cars I wouldn't like them any less. I wouldn't want an Aston Martin if everyone had one. Nor do I wish to wear the same type of clothes as everyone else. When my favourite cult band jumps out of nowhere to become number 1 in the charts, the music I so recently loved suddenly becomes less thrilling. I like the hunt. The chase. Finding something new and different. Exclusivity and rarity is what gets a collector really excited. Likewise for the bird watcher who has clocked a rare species. Or a trainspotter who has spotted a rare, er, train. For contractual reasons, David Shrigley is prevented from releasing limited edition runs through POW. All his prints at POW are open editions. Although I think they are great (especially 'Time To Choose'), the fact that they are unlimited does diminish their appeal for me. Objectively, I personally find 'Morons' to be funnier and wittier than images like 'Rude Copper' and 'Bomb Middle England'. However, given the choice, I would of course go for the older prints. Why? Simply because, for me at least, their greater rarity makes them more desirable.
it's sad but i agree with a lot of that. i still like my bands regarldless of how big/small they become/stay.
to give you an example, i always buy trainers i like but stash them away upstairs until they sell out in the shops. that way, i know i'm not gonna walk down the street and see a load of people wearing exactly the same shoes as me.
we, as men (mostly on here) are genetically programmed to collect things, it's a hangover from when we were hunter-gatherers. we also like to stand-out from the crowd, it is to do with mating patterns and trying to be the most desirable mate.
trying to be different from the norm is quite normal and some take it to more extremes than others.
as is quite often quoted, life would be pretty boring if we all liked the same things. even if a lot of people desire something, if it is limted, then owning said item holds more kudos - like having the prettiest wife.
sorry to go all darwinian in my analagies but it is all quite primative when it comes to collecting. i've always thought i'd grow out of it but if anything i know more of what i want nowadays and therefore desire it even more.
Can you explain why exclusivity makes them more desirable? If there were as many Aston Martin cars as Ford cars I wouldn't like them any less. I wouldn't want an Aston Martin if everyone had one. Nor do I wish to wear the same type of clothes as everyone else. When my favourite cult band jumps out of nowhere to become number 1 in the charts, the music I so recently loved suddenly becomes less thrilling. I like the hunt. The chase. Finding something new and different. Exclusivity and rarity is what gets a collector really excited. Likewise for the bird watcher who has clocked a rare species. Or a trainspotter who has spotted a rare, er, train. For contractual reasons, David Shrigley is prevented from releasing limited edition runs through POW. All his prints at POW are open editions. Although I think they are great (especially 'Time To Choose'), the fact that they are unlimited does diminish their appeal for me. Objectively, I personally find 'Morons' to be funnier and wittier than images like 'Rude Copper' and 'Bomb Middle England'. However, given the choice, I would of course go for the older prints. Why? Simply because, for me at least, their greater rarity makes them more desirable. it's sad but i agree with a lot of that. i still like my bands regarldless of how big/small they become/stay. to give you an example, i always buy trainers i like but stash them away upstairs until they sell out in the shops. that way, i know i'm not gonna walk down the street and see a load of people wearing exactly the same shoes as me. we, as men (mostly on here) are genetically programmed to collect things, it's a hangover from when we were hunter-gatherers. we also like to stand-out from the crowd, it is to do with mating patterns and trying to be the most desirable mate. trying to be different from the norm is quite normal and some take it to more extremes than others. as is quite often quoted, life would be pretty boring if we all liked the same things. even if a lot of people desire something, if it is limted, then owning said item holds more kudos - like having the prettiest wife. sorry to go all darwinian in my analagies but it is all quite primative when it comes to collecting. i've always thought i'd grow out of it but if anything i know more of what i want nowadays and therefore desire it even more. |
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Unlimted print runs...., by tomhills1 on Apr 2, 2007 21:04:31 GMT 1, you talking about arsenal again LBW
it's all i'm gonna say about them. awful  
you talking about arsenal again LBW it's all i'm gonna say about them. awful |
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Unlimted print runs...., by corblimeylimey on Apr 2, 2007 21:09:08 GMT 1, Can you explain why exclusivity makes them more desirable? If there were as many Aston Martin cars as Ford cars I wouldn't like them any less. I wouldn't want an Aston Martin if everyone had one. Nor do I wish to wear the same type of clothes as everyone else. When my favourite cult band jumps out of nowhere to become number 1 in the charts, the music I so recently loved suddenly becomes less thrilling. I like the hunt. The chase. Finding something new and different. Exclusivity and rarity is what gets a collector really excited. Likewise for the bird watcher who has clocked a rare species. Or a trainspotter who has spotted a rare, er, train. For contractual reasons, David Shrigley is prevented from releasing limited edition runs through POW. All his prints at POW are open editions. Although I think they are great (especially 'Time To Choose'), the fact that they are unlimited does diminish their appeal for me. Objectively, I personally find 'Morons' to be funnier and wittier than images like 'Rude Copper' and 'Bomb Middle England'. However, given the choice, I would of course go for the older prints. Why? Simply because, for me at least, their greater rarity makes them more desirable.
I can't understand your point of view, about the car or music, if I like something I don't care if someone/everyone else does or doesn't it makes no difference to me.
Personally I've got a crappy Vauxhall Vectra, I'd prefer an Audi, there's tons of them around too but that wouldn't bother me. As for music It makes me happy if I introduce new music to people and they like it, I was into Fatboy Slim before he became very well known, his popularity didn't make as much difference to me as his change in musical style.
Obviously we don't want to all be the same, but not everyone likes Banksy and to have even 20,000 screen prints still means they're something special.
Can you explain why exclusivity makes them more desirable? If there were as many Aston Martin cars as Ford cars I wouldn't like them any less. I wouldn't want an Aston Martin if everyone had one. Nor do I wish to wear the same type of clothes as everyone else. When my favourite cult band jumps out of nowhere to become number 1 in the charts, the music I so recently loved suddenly becomes less thrilling. I like the hunt. The chase. Finding something new and different. Exclusivity and rarity is what gets a collector really excited. Likewise for the bird watcher who has clocked a rare species. Or a trainspotter who has spotted a rare, er, train. For contractual reasons, David Shrigley is prevented from releasing limited edition runs through POW. All his prints at POW are open editions. Although I think they are great (especially 'Time To Choose'), the fact that they are unlimited does diminish their appeal for me. Objectively, I personally find 'Morons' to be funnier and wittier than images like 'Rude Copper' and 'Bomb Middle England'. However, given the choice, I would of course go for the older prints. Why? Simply because, for me at least, their greater rarity makes them more desirable. I can't understand your point of view, about the car or music, if I like something I don't care if someone/everyone else does or doesn't it makes no difference to me. Personally I've got a crappy Vauxhall Vectra, I'd prefer an Audi, there's tons of them around too but that wouldn't bother me. As for music It makes me happy if I introduce new music to people and they like it, I was into Fatboy Slim before he became very well known, his popularity didn't make as much difference to me as his change in musical style. Obviously we don't want to all be the same, but not everyone likes Banksy and to have even 20,000 screen prints still means they're something special. |
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Unlimted print runs...., by tomhills1 on Apr 2, 2007 21:18:00 GMT 1, on reflection, so long as they didn't sell them at ikea it wouldn't be the end of the world
i still maintain that it's an inherant gene that makes us desire the more unique things in life.
on reflection, so long as they didn't sell them at ikea it wouldn't be the end of the world i still maintain that it's an inherant gene that makes us desire the more unique things in life. |
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Unlimted print runs...., by corblimeylimey on Apr 2, 2007 21:47:59 GMT 1, on reflection, so long as they didn't sell them at ikea it wouldn't be the end of the world i still maintain that it's an inherant gene that makes us desire the more unique things in life.
I agree, it would spoil things if it got to the Ikea stage, I remember as a kid seeing this nearly everywhere.
on reflection, so long as they didn't sell them at ikea it wouldn't be the end of the world i still maintain that it's an inherant gene that makes us desire the more unique things in life. I agree, it would spoil things if it got to the Ikea stage, I remember as a kid seeing this nearly everywhere. |
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Curley
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Unlimted print runs...., by Curley on Apr 2, 2007 23:13:01 GMT 1, on reflection, so long as they didn't sell them at ikea it wouldn't be the end of the world i still maintain that it's an inherant gene that makes us desire the more unique things in life. I agree, it would spoil things if it got to the Ikea stage, I remember as a kid seeing this nearly everywhere.
I believe thats the best selling print of all time. 
on reflection, so long as they didn't sell them at ikea it wouldn't be the end of the world i still maintain that it's an inherant gene that makes us desire the more unique things in life. I agree, it would spoil things if it got to the Ikea stage, I remember as a kid seeing this nearly everywhere. I believe thats the best selling print of all time. |
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