blerd
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by blerd on Dec 7, 2019 10:34:43 GMT 1, When your โartโ is on display in every faux-cool hรดtel or club, and on the walls of b-list US celebs who show their houses on YouTube...it ainโt gonna end well I'll cross them b-listers off my mailing list pronto. Seriously - do that many people really buy just because x, y or z own the same? Nope...but if KAWS owns one thats a different story. (thinking emoji).
When your โartโ is on display in every faux-cool hรดtel or club, and on the walls of b-list US celebs who show their houses on YouTube...it ainโt gonna end well I'll cross them b-listers off my mailing list pronto. Seriously - do that many people really buy just because x, y or z own the same? Nope...but if KAWS owns one thats a different story. (thinking emoji).
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by Deleted on Dec 7, 2019 10:37:14 GMT 1, When your โartโ is on display in every faux-cool hรดtel or club, and on the walls of b-list US celebs who show their houses on YouTube...it ainโt gonna end well Don't be such a snob. Being a celebrity doesn't mean you know nothing about art. George Michael was a serious art collector - look at all his works sold after his death. Robin Williams was a big collector of street art. For all we know, Nicole Scherzinger might have an extensive collection of interesting artists.
And Soho House had Harland Miller on the walls before he was the big name he is now.
I've no idea what Harland Miller's market is going to do or whether he'll be respected long-term, but I hate this attitude that only certain people can have an appreciation of art. I'm pretty sure nobody here would be considered a 'serious art collector' in the wider world, yet here we are deciding who gets to have an opinion.
When your โartโ is on display in every faux-cool hรดtel or club, and on the walls of b-list US celebs who show their houses on YouTube...it ainโt gonna end well Don't be such a snob. Being a celebrity doesn't mean you know nothing about art. George Michael was a serious art collector - look at all his works sold after his death. Robin Williams was a big collector of street art. For all we know, Nicole Scherzinger might have an extensive collection of interesting artists. And Soho House had Harland Miller on the walls before he was the big name he is now. I've no idea what Harland Miller's market is going to do or whether he'll be respected long-term, but I hate this attitude that only certain people can have an appreciation of art. I'm pretty sure nobody here would be considered a 'serious art collector' in the wider world, yet here we are deciding who gets to have an opinion.
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by witchdoctor on Dec 7, 2019 10:50:03 GMT 1, When your โartโ is on display in every faux-cool hรดtel or club, and on the walls of b-list US celebs who show their houses on YouTube...it ainโt gonna end well Don't be such a snob. Being a celebrity doesn't mean you know nothing about art. George Michael was a serious art collector - look at all his works sold after his death. Robin Williams was a big collector of street art. For all we know, Nicole Scherzinger might have an extensive collection of interesting artists.ย And Soho House had Harland Miller on the walls before he was the big name he is now.ย I've no idea what Harland Miller's market is going to do or whether he'll be respected long-term, but I hate this attitude that only certain people can have an appreciation of art. I'm pretty sure nobody here would be considered a 'serious art collector' in the wider world, yet here we are deciding who gets to have an opinion.
Good point. A start would be collecting. And not flipping
When your โartโ is on display in every faux-cool hรดtel or club, and on the walls of b-list US celebs who show their houses on YouTube...it ainโt gonna end well Don't be such a snob. Being a celebrity doesn't mean you know nothing about art. George Michael was a serious art collector - look at all his works sold after his death. Robin Williams was a big collector of street art. For all we know, Nicole Scherzinger might have an extensive collection of interesting artists.ย And Soho House had Harland Miller on the walls before he was the big name he is now.ย I've no idea what Harland Miller's market is going to do or whether he'll be respected long-term, but I hate this attitude that only certain people can have an appreciation of art. I'm pretty sure nobody here would be considered a 'serious art collector' in the wider world, yet here we are deciding who gets to have an opinion. Good point. A start would be collecting. And not flipping
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by Jaylove on Dec 7, 2019 12:14:41 GMT 1, Even b list celebs can have an appreciation for art. Many big time collectors would scoff at street art so I donโt get the snobbery.
Nicole had a nice house too.
Even b list celebs can have an appreciation for art. Many big time collectors would scoff at street art so I donโt get the snobbery.
Nicole had a nice house too.
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by Express Post on Dec 7, 2019 12:33:57 GMT 1, I think it has to do more with the fact that these particular celebrities' interior designers will find an artwork that matches the colour of the couch.
Even b list celebs can have an appreciation for art. Many big time collectors would scoff at street art so I donโt get the snobbery. Nicole had a nice house too.
I think it has to do more with the fact that these particular celebrities' interior designers will find an artwork that matches the colour of the couch. Even b list celebs can have an appreciation for art. Many big time collectors would scoff at street art so I donโt get the snobbery. Nicole had a nice house too.
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by Dive Jedi on Dec 7, 2019 13:34:37 GMT 1, When your โartโ is on display in every faux-cool hรดtel or club, and on the walls of b-list US celebs who show their houses on YouTube...it ainโt gonna end well I'll cross them b-listers off my mailing list pronto. Seriously - do that many people really buy just because x, y or z own the same? I think that has mostly to do with the expected increase in popularity of the artist. Angelina Jolie bought a work by X, so X will be more popular. So X's artwork will increase in value. Doesn't have much to do with "I want the same on the wall as AJ".
When your โartโ is on display in every faux-cool hรดtel or club, and on the walls of b-list US celebs who show their houses on YouTube...it ainโt gonna end well I'll cross them b-listers off my mailing list pronto. Seriously - do that many people really buy just because x, y or z own the same? I think that has mostly to do with the expected increase in popularity of the artist. Angelina Jolie bought a work by X, so X will be more popular. So X's artwork will increase in value. Doesn't have much to do with "I want the same on the wall as AJ".
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by teabaggins on Dec 7, 2019 15:59:41 GMT 1, When your โartโ is on display in every faux-cool hรดtel or club, and on the walls of b-list US celebs who show their houses on YouTube...it ainโt gonna end well Seriously - do that many people really buy just because x, y or z own the same?ย I would argue that based on the content I read in the majority of threads on this forum, most โcollectorsโ here buy art because other people do and not because they actually like it themselves... Also, hasnโt this become the point of most social media now? I think โinfluencerโ has become an actual job the younger generation aspires to.
When your โartโ is on display in every faux-cool hรดtel or club, and on the walls of b-list US celebs who show their houses on YouTube...it ainโt gonna end well Seriously - do that many people really buy just because x, y or z own the same?ย I would argue that based on the content I read in the majority of threads on this forum, most โcollectorsโ here buy art because other people do and not because they actually like it themselves... Also, hasnโt this become the point of most social media now? I think โinfluencerโ has become an actual job the younger generation aspires to.
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by bbperez1 on Dec 7, 2019 16:06:59 GMT 1, Surely, youโre not using that outlier as a reference. The silly man with too much money at Basel spent 45k so surely I must too. Never said I, nor anyone else should. Slipping or not, I simply stated what I witnessed to all those who said no one is interested in HM. Not just the purchase but people generally gathering and enjoying his work. This business is built around "the silly man with too much money", should we stop referencing Kaws $15million auction result? Or is the silly man then smart when it refers to artists we are invested in?ย
That Kaws reference, is also an outlier reference because of the controversy behind the alleged sale. What is the intent of your statement?
Surely, youโre not using that outlier as a reference. The silly man with too much money at Basel spent 45k so surely I must too. Never said I, nor anyone else should. Slipping or not, I simply stated what I witnessed to all those who said no one is interested in HM. Not just the purchase but people generally gathering and enjoying his work. This business is built around "the silly man with too much money", should we stop referencing Kaws $15million auction result? Or is the silly man then smart when it refers to artists we are invested in?ย That Kaws reference, is also an outlier reference because of the controversy behind the alleged sale. What is the intent of your statement?
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by Matt on Dec 7, 2019 16:54:16 GMT 1, When your โartโ is on display in every faux-cool hรดtel or club, and on the walls of b-list US celebs who show their houses on YouTube...it ainโt gonna end well I'll cross them b-listers off my mailing list pronto. Seriously - do that many people really buy just because x, y or z own the same?ย
I buy everything Courtney Cox buys...donโt you ?
It just makes so much sense, how could you not
When your โartโ is on display in every faux-cool hรดtel or club, and on the walls of b-list US celebs who show their houses on YouTube...it ainโt gonna end well I'll cross them b-listers off my mailing list pronto. Seriously - do that many people really buy just because x, y or z own the same?ย I buy everything Courtney Cox buys...donโt you ? It just makes so much sense, how could you not
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by firstimer on Dec 7, 2019 17:08:35 GMT 1, I think the frustration for many on here comes from thinking this website is something it isnt. Its a forum where folks come to talk about their art, the art they want, the values of said art in hand or wanted and you know what? that's ok. People want to go to a place where they can feel good about themselves, where they can feel "wow - ok I feel awesome because the art I invested in 5 years ago (or last week) has gone up in value.
Remember the context we are in: this is urban art, its contemporary art, getting frustrated because the average graffiti art collector isn't talking about the brush of the strokes (from the spray can) like its a Monet only gets your own knickers in a twist.
Lets just call a spade a spade: This forum is about projected art value, buying and selling art and a group of folks wanting to hear other peoples opinions on the art they have/aspire to have to feel good that they made the right decision on forking out probably thousands of pounds/dollars on something they took a chance on.
In terms of Miller; if he was just "dialling it in" as others have mentioned here... he would just keep hashing out penguins. The fact hes stepped outside of his clearly successful niche he found shows he's not a one-trick pony. We don't have to like his new work, but I don't think it's fair to say he's dialling it in when he veers away from his moneymakers.
I think the frustration for many on here comes from thinking this website is something it isnt. Its a forum where folks come to talk about their art, the art they want, the values of said art in hand or wanted and you know what? that's ok. People want to go to a place where they can feel good about themselves, where they can feel "wow - ok I feel awesome because the art I invested in 5 years ago (or last week) has gone up in value.
Remember the context we are in: this is urban art, its contemporary art, getting frustrated because the average graffiti art collector isn't talking about the brush of the strokes (from the spray can) like its a Monet only gets your own knickers in a twist.
Lets just call a spade a spade: This forum is about projected art value, buying and selling art and a group of folks wanting to hear other peoples opinions on the art they have/aspire to have to feel good that they made the right decision on forking out probably thousands of pounds/dollars on something they took a chance on.
In terms of Miller; if he was just "dialling it in" as others have mentioned here... he would just keep hashing out penguins. The fact hes stepped outside of his clearly successful niche he found shows he's not a one-trick pony. We don't have to like his new work, but I don't think it's fair to say he's dialling it in when he veers away from his moneymakers.
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by nobokov on Dec 7, 2019 17:28:09 GMT 1, What are the arguments here?
What are the arguments here?
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by Riotcops on Dec 7, 2019 18:53:05 GMT 1, Never said I, nor anyone else should. Slipping or not, I simply stated what I witnessed to all those who said no one is interested in HM. Not just the purchase but people generally gathering and enjoying his work. This business is built around "the silly man with too much money", should we stop referencing Kaws $15million auction result? Or is the silly man then smart when it refers to artists we are invested in? That Kaws reference, is also an outlier reference because of the controversy behind the alleged sale. What is the intent of your statement? I'm not trying to make a statement, you jumped on me for writing about what I saw with my own eyes haha.
Never said I, nor anyone else should. Slipping or not, I simply stated what I witnessed to all those who said no one is interested in HM. Not just the purchase but people generally gathering and enjoying his work. This business is built around "the silly man with too much money", should we stop referencing Kaws $15million auction result? Or is the silly man then smart when it refers to artists we are invested in? That Kaws reference, is also an outlier reference because of the controversy behind the alleged sale. What is the intent of your statement? I'm not trying to make a statement, you jumped on me for writing about what I saw with my own eyes haha.
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by witchdoctor on Dec 12, 2019 15:24:10 GMT 1, Is there anyone who can help me out on the tiers on these? ๐๐
Is there anyone who can help me out on the tiers on these? ๐๐
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by Fuzzyduck121 on Dec 13, 2019 12:42:07 GMT 1, Did anyone get an email back who enquiried about this work Iโve been told itโs sold out but I didnโt get any further information
Did anyone get an email back who enquiried about this work Iโve been told itโs sold out but I didnโt get any further information
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by Happy Shopper on Dec 13, 2019 15:48:10 GMT 1, Did anyone get an email back who enquiried about this work Iโve been told itโs sold out but I didnโt get any further information
I was told months ago that Iโd be given a heads up on this release, then never heard anything from them. Too expensive anyway, to be be honest!
Did anyone get an email back who enquiried about this work Iโve been told itโs sold out but I didnโt get any further information I was told months ago that Iโd be given a heads up on this release, then never heard anything from them. Too expensive anyway, to be be honest!
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by bmacked on Dec 16, 2019 15:37:41 GMT 1, Did anyone get an email back who enquiried about this work Iโve been told itโs sold out but I didnโt get any further information
I received an email back on this one. Was offered one for under 15k.
Did anyone get an email back who enquiried about this work Iโve been told itโs sold out but I didnโt get any further information I received an email back on this one. Was offered one for under 15k.
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by Adam The Collector on Dec 16, 2019 18:59:03 GMT 1, Did anyone get an email back who enquiried about this work Iโve been told itโs sold out but I didnโt get any further information I received an email back on this one. Was offered one for under 15k. US dollar or sterling?
Did anyone get an email back who enquiried about this work Iโve been told itโs sold out but I didnโt get any further information I received an email back on this one. Was offered one for under 15k. US dollar or sterling?
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 19:05:55 GMT 1, Was offered one at 6+VAT
Living my best VIP life ๐
Was offered one at 6+VAT
Living my best VIP life ๐
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 19:31:52 GMT 1, Did anyone get an email back who enquiried about this work Iโve been told itโs sold out but I didnโt get any further information I received an email back on this one. Was offered one for under 15k.
This is tier 45
Did anyone get an email back who enquiried about this work Iโve been told itโs sold out but I didnโt get any further information I received an email back on this one. Was offered one for under 15k. This is tier 45
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by Adam The Collector on Dec 17, 2019 0:43:01 GMT 1, Was offered one at 6+VAT Living my best VIP life ๐ What a buy, sucks to know that by the time I can pick up a print it is more than 2X what others purchased for. Too high of price increases me thinks!
Was offered one at 6+VAT Living my best VIP life ๐ What a buy, sucks to know that by the time I can pick up a print it is more than 2X what others purchased for. Too high of price increases me thinks!
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by bmacked on Dec 17, 2019 3:39:39 GMT 1, I received an email back on this one. Was offered one for under 15k. US dollar or sterling?
USD. I passed.
I received an email back on this one. Was offered one for under 15k. US dollar or sterling? USD. I passed.
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by jluhiex on Dec 17, 2019 5:36:21 GMT 1,
Add 25% tariff for UK prints if bringing into US.
Add 25% tariff for UK prints if bringing into US.
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by lv90210 on Apr 2, 2020 18:01:47 GMT 1, Hey guys, I have both eh large and small format of Harland Millers most recent release - ACE Harland Miller Ace, 2019 (small) Etching with blockprinting Edition of 50 Sheet size: 101.5 x 72 cm (40 x 28 3/8 inches) Signed by the artist and numbered on the reverse Price: US $ 20,000 Harland Miller Ace, 2019 (large) Woodcut with blockprinting Edition of 50 Sheet size: 168 x 119 cm (66 1/8 x 46 13/16 inches) Signed by the artist and numbered on the reverse Price: US $ 30,000 Buyer pays PP fee and shipping. I'm pretty sure they haven't even sold out at source, I know you're a dealer so these aren't your personal works but these are yuk !
Hey guys, I have both eh large and small format of Harland Millers most recent release - ACE Harland Miller Ace, 2019 (small) Etching with blockprinting Edition of 50 Sheet size: 101.5 x 72 cm (40 x 28 3/8 inches) Signed by the artist and numbered on the reverse Price: US $ 20,000 Harland Miller Ace, 2019 (large) Woodcut with blockprinting Edition of 50 Sheet size: 168 x 119 cm (66 1/8 x 46 13/16 inches) Signed by the artist and numbered on the reverse Price: US $ 30,000 Buyer pays PP fee and shipping. I'm pretty sure they haven't even sold out at source, I know you're a dealer so these aren't your personal works but these are yuk !
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 23:45:40 GMT 1, Not too far from primary at Price: ยฃ 17,500 plus VAT
Not too far from primary at Price: ยฃ 17,500 plus VAT
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 23:46:06 GMT 1, In any case very beautiful image
In any case very beautiful image
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by Poster Bob on Apr 3, 2020 0:00:26 GMT 1, That's the current price for the small print from Manifold?
Not too far from primary at Price: ยฃ 17,500 plus VAT
That's the current price for the small print from Manifold? Not too far from primary at Price: ยฃ 17,500 plus VAT
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by LJCal on Apr 3, 2020 0:10:17 GMT 1, These are very over priced in my view, you can get a nice penguin on the secondary market for less and they will always be far more desirable for most collectors
These are very over priced in my view, you can get a nice penguin on the secondary market for less and they will always be far more desirable for most collectors
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 5:21:35 GMT 1, That was the price of the large two months ago
That was the price of the large two months ago
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 5:23:06 GMT 1, I believe that long term people will admit more merits to the new prints (vs penguin). They are really outstanding print quality with multiple layers of colors...
I believe that long term people will admit more merits to the new prints (vs penguin). They are really outstanding print quality with multiple layers of colors...
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Harland Miller โข ACE, by lv90210 on Apr 3, 2020 7:07:14 GMT 1, There is a reason why you can still buy them from source.
There is a reason why you can still buy them from source.
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