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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Adam The Collector on Dec 3, 2019 4:34:54 GMT 1, Raising funds for Playboy?
Raising funds for Playboy?
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Street Arted 2020 on Dec 3, 2019 5:33:58 GMT 1, Well my GDP Rat arrived today from Mark at PFG @pfg24 Picture Frame Gallery. Perfectly packed, framed meticulously, was absolutely a pleasure to deal with. Highly recommend. You should check their stuff out on Instagram pretty cool. And thanks to Dappy for the referral, you helped make it possible. Thank you UAA
Well my GDP Rat arrived today from Mark at PFG @pfg24 Picture Frame Gallery. Perfectly packed, framed meticulously, was absolutely a pleasure to deal with. Highly recommend. You should check their stuff out on Instagram pretty cool. And thanks to Dappy for the referral, you helped make it possible. Thank you UAA
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by kjg on Dec 3, 2019 6:46:42 GMT 1, Thanks for your PMโs. Will get back to them tonight.
Thanks for your PMโs. Will get back to them tonight.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by kjg on Dec 3, 2019 6:47:38 GMT 1, Raising funds for Playboy?
No :-)
Raising funds for Playboy? No :-)
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by kjg on Dec 3, 2019 6:50:37 GMT 1, Or you could donate it to my auction for Glasgow Children's hospital.... , it's the nearest I'm going to get to having a Banksy in the auction. Just a thought. Check out my listing in the for sale page.
I wonโt donate my Rat but I have lots and lots of other stuff. Let me think of something :-)
Or you could donate it to my auction for Glasgow Children's hospital.... , it's the nearest I'm going to get to having a Banksy in the auction. Just a thought. Check out my listing in the for sale page. I wonโt donate my Rat but I have lots and lots of other stuff. Let me think of something :-)
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by mcgill14 on Dec 3, 2019 15:59:34 GMT 1, That is very nice of you sir, totally appreciate your support.
Steve
That is very nice of you sir, totally appreciate your support.
Steve
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by kfroms on Dec 4, 2019 12:14:27 GMT 1, Well my GDP Rat arrived today from Mark at PFG @pfg24 Picture Frame Gallery. Perfectly packed, framed meticulously, was absolutely a pleasure to deal with. Highly recommend. You should check their stuff out on Instagram pretty cool. And thanks to Dappy for the referral, you helped make it possible. Thank you UAA Do you mind sharing a picture of the framed rat?
Well my GDP Rat arrived today from Mark at PFG @pfg24 Picture Frame Gallery. Perfectly packed, framed meticulously, was absolutely a pleasure to deal with. Highly recommend. You should check their stuff out on Instagram pretty cool. And thanks to Dappy for the referral, you helped make it possible. Thank you UAA Do you mind sharing a picture of the framed rat?
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by kjg on Dec 6, 2019 13:36:39 GMT 1, This is now sold for an offer I could not refuse.
The response was quite overwhelming to say the least, so accept my sincere apologies for any unanswered PMโs, for keeping you waiting or any other mistake I made.
I hope that all who want a GDP Rat will get one :-)
This is now sold for an offer I could not refuse.
The response was quite overwhelming to say the least, so accept my sincere apologies for any unanswered PMโs, for keeping you waiting or any other mistake I made.
I hope that all who want a GDP Rat will get one :-)
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by tab1 on Dec 6, 2019 14:41:08 GMT 1, This is now sold for an offer I could not refuse. The response was quite overwhelming to say the least, so accept my sincere apologies for any unanswered PMโs, for keeping you waiting or any other mistake I made. I hope that all who want a GDP Rat will get one :-) Asking price?
This is now sold for an offer I could not refuse. The response was quite overwhelming to say the least, so accept my sincere apologies for any unanswered PMโs, for keeping you waiting or any other mistake I made. I hope that all who want a GDP Rat will get one :-) Asking price?
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by churchwood on Dec 6, 2019 14:52:36 GMT 1, This is now sold for an offer I could not refuse. The response was quite overwhelming to say the least, so accept my sincere apologies for any unanswered PMโs, for keeping you waiting or any other mistake I made. I hope that all who want a GDP Rat will get one :-) Asking price? sealed bids
This is now sold for an offer I could not refuse. The response was quite overwhelming to say the least, so accept my sincere apologies for any unanswered PMโs, for keeping you waiting or any other mistake I made. I hope that all who want a GDP Rat will get one :-) Asking price? sealed bids
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by ca on Dec 6, 2019 15:55:10 GMT 1, The original price is in the thread... but seems like it was overbid
The original price is in the thread... but seems like it was overbid
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Street Arted 2020 on Dec 7, 2019 0:37:14 GMT 1, Well my GDP Rat arrived today from Mark at PFG @pfg24 Picture Frame Gallery. Perfectly packed, framed meticulously, was absolutely a pleasure to deal with. Highly recommend. You should check their stuff out on Instagram pretty cool. And thanks to Dappy for the referral, you helped make it possible. Thank you UAA Do you mind sharing a picture of the framed rat? A little wrinkled but i love it anyway... Sorry about the shitty lighting.
Well my GDP Rat arrived today from Mark at PFG @pfg24 Picture Frame Gallery. Perfectly packed, framed meticulously, was absolutely a pleasure to deal with. Highly recommend. You should check their stuff out on Instagram pretty cool. And thanks to Dappy for the referral, you helped make it possible. Thank you UAA Do you mind sharing a picture of the framed rat? A little wrinkled but i love it anyway... Sorry about the shitty lighting.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Random Ginger Bloke on Jan 25, 2020 11:35:50 GMT 1, Anyone got a genuine rat for sale? eBay seems like a minefield of fakes
Anyone got a genuine rat for sale? eBay seems like a minefield of fakes
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 12:30:58 GMT 1, Anyone got a genuine rat for sale? eBay seems like a minefield of fakes This is the issue that I am having too! There are a couple of issues with the GDP prints.ย - Pricing?! These things are effectively worthless without provenance. I have seen some genuine ones and although they are not the easiest thing to fake, it would be totally possible. Once 1 on 1 fakes are available, your provenance needs to be rock solid or its totally worthless if you come to sell.ย The person I know with the legits is not looking to sell. I am just not taking the risk of buying from eBay. They all have "fantastic" stories that go with them..... ย ย
How would you get rock solod provenance? I cant see how you would
Anyone got a genuine rat for sale? eBay seems like a minefield of fakes This is the issue that I am having too! There are a couple of issues with the GDP prints.ย - Pricing?! These things are effectively worthless without provenance. I have seen some genuine ones and although they are not the easiest thing to fake, it would be totally possible. Once 1 on 1 fakes are available, your provenance needs to be rock solid or its totally worthless if you come to sell.ย The person I know with the legits is not looking to sell. I am just not taking the risk of buying from eBay. They all have "fantastic" stories that go with them..... ย ย How would you get rock solod provenance? I cant see how you would
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 12:43:26 GMT 1, How would you get rock solod provenance? I cant see how you would Well this is the issue isn't it. It effectively makes these prints totally worthless unless you are a trusted person within the art world. I wouldn't dream of buying on of these of eBay. Lots of "graphers" video themselves for when they come to sell their collections. I have spoken to PC and they will never authenticate them. This is why I am staying away from these.ย
I have a rat and a thrower. Bought a day or so of when they were given out from a couple of people one of which were the cool brown coat guys
I know 100% these are genuine by the reverse and the timing etc
They were a few hundred each, but as a collector i needed them.
No idea what will happen in the future, i dont intend to sell, but if I have too I am pretty sure i'd get my money back
How would you get rock solod provenance? I cant see how you would Well this is the issue isn't it. It effectively makes these prints totally worthless unless you are a trusted person within the art world. I wouldn't dream of buying on of these of eBay. Lots of "graphers" video themselves for when they come to sell their collections. I have spoken to PC and they will never authenticate them. This is why I am staying away from these.ย I have a rat and a thrower. Bought a day or so of when they were given out from a couple of people one of which were the cool brown coat guys I know 100% these are genuine by the reverse and the timing etc They were a few hundred each, but as a collector i needed them. No idea what will happen in the future, i dont intend to sell, but if I have too I am pretty sure i'd get my money back
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Happy Shopper on Jan 27, 2020 12:55:13 GMT 1, How would you get rock solod provenance? I cant see how you would Well this is the issue isn't it. It effectively makes these prints totally worthless unless you are a trusted person within the art world. I wouldn't dream of buying on of these of eBay. Lots of "graphers" video themselves for when they come to sell their collections. I have spoken to PC and they will never authenticate them. This is why I am staying away from these. Yep. All you can do is compare ones for sale to ones you know are real... which isn't always possible!
Seems risky... BUT.. You'd think there would be perfect copies by now of the official prints, but there aren't. They're "blobby", missing details, etc, and mostly easily spotted.
How would you get rock solod provenance? I cant see how you would Well this is the issue isn't it. It effectively makes these prints totally worthless unless you are a trusted person within the art world. I wouldn't dream of buying on of these of eBay. Lots of "graphers" video themselves for when they come to sell their collections. I have spoken to PC and they will never authenticate them. This is why I am staying away from these. Yep. All you can do is compare ones for sale to ones you know are real... which isn't always possible! Seems risky... BUT.. You'd think there would be perfect copies by now of the official prints, but there aren't. They're "blobby", missing details, etc, and mostly easily spotted.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by avec art on Jan 27, 2020 13:01:45 GMT 1, this has a lot do do with the fine spray. Wcp has the same problem. When you scan an original a lot of the finer detail is lost. Then when it comes to printing the acetate even more of the finer detail doesn't get printed onto the plastic. If the screen is not created well, then there is a 3rd stage where detail is lost.
this has a lot do do with the fine spray. Wcp has the same problem. When you scan an original a lot of the finer detail is lost. Then when it comes to printing the acetate even more of the finer detail doesn't get printed onto the plastic. If the screen is not created well, then there is a 3rd stage where detail is lost.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 13:10:37 GMT 1, From what you have said, I am sure they are legit. However, in a years time, if you come to sell them and want "real money" for them, unless you already have a decent collection of other bits, its just a story. Lets say for example, you sold them to someone and it was the first bit of art they had bought. When they come to sell it, what's their story going to be like? "Yeah, I got it from this guy, he's got loads of other Banksy and the got them from this guy a couple of days after the event" Again, I am not questioning the authenticity of the pieces you have. All I am saying is, I think anyone that is spending a grand a piece on these is a fool. Unless you are buying them from someone that is trusted in the art world and is happy to vouch for you when you come to sell them.ย I am probably going to get flamed for this post but its just the reality of the situation. I am not "hating" simply stating facts. And before anyone makes the Banksy poster comparison - these came with tubes, tissue paper and even receipts. These prints came with nothing.ย
I dont disagree, though 'fool' is maybe a little strong, however i do think people have to be very careful
There would be nothing stopping me copying a few and using my ebay paper trail to sell them to people who dont know what to check for apart from the fact that I dont scam people (or do I?)โ
From what you have said, I am sure they are legit. However, in a years time, if you come to sell them and want "real money" for them, unless you already have a decent collection of other bits, its just a story. Lets say for example, you sold them to someone and it was the first bit of art they had bought. When they come to sell it, what's their story going to be like? "Yeah, I got it from this guy, he's got loads of other Banksy and the got them from this guy a couple of days after the event" Again, I am not questioning the authenticity of the pieces you have. All I am saying is, I think anyone that is spending a grand a piece on these is a fool. Unless you are buying them from someone that is trusted in the art world and is happy to vouch for you when you come to sell them.ย I am probably going to get flamed for this post but its just the reality of the situation. I am not "hating" simply stating facts. And before anyone makes the Banksy poster comparison - these came with tubes, tissue paper and even receipts. These prints came with nothing.ย I dont disagree, though 'fool' is maybe a little strong, however i do think people have to be very careful There would be nothing stopping me copying a few and using my ebay paper trail to sell them to people who dont know what to check for apart from the fact that I dont scam people (or do I?)โ
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 13:24:06 GMT 1, I am going to be really curious at the value of these things in 5 years time. Really curious.
Only looking for the flower. Other two I have already :/)
I am going to be really curious at the value of these things in 5 years time. Really curious. Only looking for the flower. Other two I have already :/)
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Happy Shopper on Jan 27, 2020 13:44:51 GMT 1, I am going to be really curious at the value of these things in 5 years time. Really curious. Other Banksy posters would be fairly easy to make copies of too... and people do, and sell fakes on eBay. But the originals still seem to go up and up.
I am going to be really curious at the value of these things in 5 years time. Really curious. Other Banksy posters would be fairly easy to make copies of too... and people do, and sell fakes on eBay. But the originals still seem to go up and up.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Happy Shopper on Jan 27, 2020 13:50:05 GMT 1, this has a lot do do with the fine spray. Wcp has the same problem. When you scan an original a lot of the finer detail is lost. Then when it comes to printing the acetate even more of the finer detail doesn't get printed onto the plastic. If the screen is not created well, then there is a 3rd stage where detail is lost. Exactly. A print will not have the same detail as the original, therefore a copy made of the print will lose detail again, and unlikely to ever be a perfect copy.
this has a lot do do with the fine spray. Wcp has the same problem. When you scan an original a lot of the finer detail is lost. Then when it comes to printing the acetate even more of the finer detail doesn't get printed onto the plastic. If the screen is not created well, then there is a 3rd stage where detail is lost. Exactly. A print will not have the same detail as the original, therefore a copy made of the print will lose detail again, and unlikely to ever be a perfect copy.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Pipes on Jan 27, 2020 14:01:43 GMT 1, I am going to be really curious at the value of these things in 5 years time. Really curious. Only looking for the flower. Other two I have already :/) Nothing to do with me....
www.getabanksy.com/store1/gross-domestic-product-flower-thrower
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by iamzero on Jan 27, 2020 14:08:40 GMT 1, A friend of mine bought all three prints from eBay and they were all genuine. The stories from each of the sellers checked out but he also had the added security of checking them directly next to mine that I had from my visit to the GDP. I think these would be near on impossible to fake to the point where you could spot the difference when side by side. That said Iโd love another Crisis print but canโt bring myself to pull the trigger on an eBay one.
A friend of mine bought all three prints from eBay and they were all genuine. The stories from each of the sellers checked out but he also had the added security of checking them directly next to mine that I had from my visit to the GDP. I think these would be near on impossible to fake to the point where you could spot the difference when side by side. That said Iโd love another Crisis print but canโt bring myself to pull the trigger on an eBay one.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by dannubs on Jan 27, 2020 14:17:44 GMT 1, Has anyone used these guys before? Any good?
Has anyone used these guys before? Any good?
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by iamzero on Jan 27, 2020 14:21:47 GMT 1, If you are confident in your Chinese counterfeiters then you could buy a genuine one and make a small fortune by reproducing it to sell?
If you are confident in your Chinese counterfeiters then you could buy a genuine one and make a small fortune by reproducing it to sell?
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Terry Fuckwitt on Jan 27, 2020 14:44:14 GMT 1, As brillobox said the real problem is provenance with these. Other Banksy posters with receipts and tubes help with provenance, which these don't have. You could buy now from a trusted seller here and have confidence the print is genuine. If you then go to sell at a later date, then that real provenance is lost to the next buyer. I have genuine di tenners bought from a trusted source that I know are legit, but if I ever sell these at any point it would be just my word, unless a buyer inspects.
As brillobox said the real problem is provenance with these. Other Banksy posters with receipts and tubes help with provenance, which these don't have. You could buy now from a trusted seller here and have confidence the print is genuine. If you then go to sell at a later date, then that real provenance is lost to the next buyer. I have genuine di tenners bought from a trusted source that I know are legit, but if I ever sell these at any point it would be just my word, unless a buyer inspects.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by overend on Jan 27, 2020 15:00:47 GMT 1, As brillobox said the real problem is provenance with these. Other Banksy posters with receipts and tubes help with provenance, which these don't have. You could buy now from a trusted seller here and have confidence the print is genuine. If you then go to sell at a later date, then that real provenance is lost to the next buyer. I have genuine di tenners bought from a trusted source that I know are legit, but if I ever sell these at any point it would be just my word, unless a buyer inspects.
Agreed. Croydon train ticket, parking ticket or purchase receipt for a roll of Christmas wrapping paper ๐ is probably the best you can hope for.
As brillobox said the real problem is provenance with these. Other Banksy posters with receipts and tubes help with provenance, which these don't have. You could buy now from a trusted seller here and have confidence the print is genuine. If you then go to sell at a later date, then that real provenance is lost to the next buyer. I have genuine di tenners bought from a trusted source that I know are legit, but if I ever sell these at any point it would be just my word, unless a buyer inspects. Agreed. Croydon train ticket, parking ticket or purchase receipt for a roll of Christmas wrapping paper ๐ is probably the best you can hope for.
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by GMA on Jan 27, 2020 15:18:56 GMT 1, Or one of the signed ones by Bandana man
Or one of the signed ones by Bandana man
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Banksy RAT Print, Gross Domestic Product , by Terry Fuckwitt on Jan 27, 2020 15:50:45 GMT 1, As brillobox said the real problem is provenance with these. Other Banksy posters with receipts and tubes help with provenance, which these don't have. You could buy now from a trusted seller here and have confidence the print is genuine. If you then go to sell at a later date, then that real provenance is lost to the next buyer. I have genuine di tenners bought from a trusted source that I know are legit, but if I ever sell these at any point it would be just my word, unless a buyer inspects. Agreed. Croydon train ticket, parking ticket or purchase receipt for a roll of Christmas wrapping paper ๐ is probably the best you can hope for.
I would settle for nothing less than a photo of the seller outside GDP. Holding hands with their kids, crying their little eyes out whilst carrying their stolen prints๐
As brillobox said the real problem is provenance with these. Other Banksy posters with receipts and tubes help with provenance, which these don't have. You could buy now from a trusted seller here and have confidence the print is genuine. If you then go to sell at a later date, then that real provenance is lost to the next buyer. I have genuine di tenners bought from a trusted source that I know are legit, but if I ever sell these at any point it would be just my word, unless a buyer inspects. Agreed. Croydon train ticket, parking ticket or purchase receipt for a roll of Christmas wrapping paper ๐ is probably the best you can hope for. I would settle for nothing less than a photo of the seller outside GDP. Holding hands with their kids, crying their little eyes out whilst carrying their stolen prints๐
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