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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by thugs on May 14, 2017 21:48:52 GMT 1, whilst i'm guessing english isn't your first language, exactly which part of "the clamp is a fake, it isnโt by banksy" don't you understand?
whilst i'm guessing english isn't your first language, exactly which part of " the clamp is a fake, it isnโt by banksy" don't you understand? |
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by iamzero on May 14, 2017 22:01:01 GMT 1, This has to be a wind up surely. You could've bought something with solid provenance for that money and lost nothing. A fool and his money...
This has to be a wind up surely. You could've bought something with solid provenance for that money and lost nothing. A fool and his money...
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by Unica on May 14, 2017 22:26:13 GMT 1, Thank you for your statements. This piece is worth every penny for me. I love it and it looks beautiful in my living room. Several serious banksy collectors like it too. I just wonder - and was interested in your opinion - why does PC say it's a fake instaed of rejecting the authentication. You can be sure that I wouldn't have bought it with a bad feeling. I collected the money and drove through half of europe to get it. Before I checked every public information about the HW motive and Banksys early days - and it really was in the hands of the trustworth seller since 2005. A basic idea of me about forgery of real (and complex) street art: It's hard to reproduce. The specific moment when a piece is created makes the half of its karma, if a Banksy, a Haring or of anybody else. Producing such an authentic piece like this clamp needs a high perfection and dozens of other clamps until one of them looks such good.. and this one is worth more than a four digit price. Forgering a Mona Lisa for million bucks, ok. But faking a piece worth nearly nothing would need another motivation.. My intention here is not to discuss its value nor its beauty or message. I dont't want to sell it. It is more your reflection and your experience with Banksy in general, other HW paintings (maybe a series of HW fakes) and personal feedback you received from PC. Another intention was - and I experienced it while reading one of the last posts here - to give it a public, to discuss it and the "street art-collecting-thing" and to show that something is here; if fake or not - nobody knows. If it's real it's like a time capsule from 2000: Banksys earliest days in London..
I have actually seen an email response from Pest Control to someone else submitting a street piece. That reply did not call the piece a fake but merely said something along the lines of if it was by Banksy they wouldn't authenticate as it would be eligible as they do not authenticate street pieces.
Thank you for your statements. This piece is worth every penny for me. I love it and it looks beautiful in my living room. Several serious banksy collectors like it too. I just wonder - and was interested in your opinion - why does PC say it's a fake instaed of rejecting the authentication. You can be sure that I wouldn't have bought it with a bad feeling. I collected the money and drove through half of europe to get it. Before I checked every public information about the HW motive and Banksys early days - and it really was in the hands of the trustworth seller since 2005. A basic idea of me about forgery of real (and complex) street art: It's hard to reproduce. The specific moment when a piece is created makes the half of its karma, if a Banksy, a Haring or of anybody else. Producing such an authentic piece like this clamp needs a high perfection and dozens of other clamps until one of them looks such good.. and this one is worth more than a four digit price. Forgering a Mona Lisa for million bucks, ok. But faking a piece worth nearly nothing would need another motivation.. My intention here is not to discuss its value nor its beauty or message. I dont't want to sell it. It is more your reflection and your experience with Banksy in general, other HW paintings (maybe a series of HW fakes) and personal feedback you received from PC. Another intention was - and I experienced it while reading one of the last posts here - to give it a public, to discuss it and the "street art-collecting-thing" and to show that something is here; if fake or not - nobody knows. If it's real it's like a time capsule from 2000: Banksys earliest days in London.. I'm sorry to say they did reject the authentication, that happened when they said it was fake. I'm glad you still enjoy it, thats the main thing and sounds like the reason you paid so much for it. The topic has been enjoyable to discuss on the forum, I appreciate you sharing it. It also highlights the issues with paying large amounts for street pieces that have no provenance, they will likely never be authenticated. I have actually seen an email response from Pest Control to someone else submitting a street piece. That reply did not call the piece a fake but merely said something along the lines of if it was by Banksy they wouldn't authenticate as it would be eligible as they do not authenticate street pieces. |
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by batemanz on May 14, 2017 22:31:51 GMT 1, no expert but there are some difference:
 
no expert but there are some difference:
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by Steph Rat Catcher on May 14, 2017 23:57:22 GMT 1, The guy you got it from didn't say banksy sprayed it in front of him by any chance?
The guy you got it from didn't say banksy sprayed it in front of him by any chance?
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by bernsteiner on May 15, 2017 8:32:23 GMT 1, The seller only proved to me that he took it in 2005 from London. All additional informations are added by me.
Due to the ongoing inspections here one more detail: The stencil looks like is was used before it was applied on the clamp. There are some drips from the pressure of the stencil (see red arrows). And obviously somebody (not my seller) tried to erase/scratch them off (red squares).
To give a better impression of the structure of the painting see a detail shot here:
Feel free to demand for further details/spots of the clamp.
The seller only proved to me that he took it in 2005 from London. All additional informations are added by me. Due to the ongoing inspections here one more detail: The stencil looks like is was used before it was applied on the clamp. There are some drips from the pressure of the stencil (see red arrows). And obviously somebody (not my seller) tried to erase/scratch them off (red squares). To give a better impression of the structure of the painting see a detail shot here: Feel free to demand for further details/spots of the clamp. |
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by iamzero on May 15, 2017 8:51:16 GMT 1, I remember a guy trying to sell one of these on eBay a while back, claimed he worked for the council or something along those lines.
I remember a guy trying to sell one of these on eBay a while back, claimed he worked for the council or something along those lines.
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by lacklisted on May 15, 2017 9:55:55 GMT 1, its worth something....... use it to clamp the gallery owners car until he gives you your money back.
its worth something....... use it to clamp the gallery owners car until he gives you your money back.
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by Deleted on May 15, 2017 9:56:10 GMT 1, This is my first posting in this board even I'm a member since years and read a lot here. I own this wheelclamp since more than two years now. I purchased it personally from an oldtimer-dealer in south Germany who brought it from London around 2005:  Since then I made a lot of research.. and have got a reply from PCO: The results are contradictory. - It's an original wheel-clamp/carboot like it is still used today in London - The optical appearance of the object is authentically old (rusty, scratched) - This motive appeared in Banksys early period in Bristol and recently 2000/2001 in London - The motive has been used in two versions on canvases; the strongest differentiation is the middle pair of legs (older motive = the space between is painted black; younger = the space is kept free) - A canvas of the newer motive was auctioned at Bonhams in 2007: www.bonhams.com/auctions/14942/lot/369/ , conforms 1:1 to the motive on the object;  In my theory the object was created around the year 2000 and Banksys first show in London, similar to the above mentioned canvas (Bonhams refers to it in their detail discription, see link). Banksy painted several motives on plain whited-out walls and sold the motives on canvas seperately; this photo shows this wall, see the (younger) motive in the lower left corner:  .. POC wrote more then a year ago (after some exchange via mail and several month of waiting): " Hi xxx. The clamp is a fake, it isnโt by Banksy. Kind regards Pest Control Office " I wonder that they make a statement on a street art piece since they claim that they generally don't do it. I'm very interested in the opinions here? Have you ever seen such an object (Clamp + HW) or any older HW fakes? Looking forward to the exchange here..
Seems clear enough. Pest Control say it's a fake and therefore only has novelty value.
I hope this old time dealer didn't sell you a stolen wheel clamp.
I think if PC says they do not authenticate a street piece, regarding some other street piece and do not say that piece is a fake. It could be that PC is not 100% certain Banksy did not do it and anyway have a blanket policy of not autheticating street pieces.
Excluding of course all of the street pieces that are authenticated by being shown on Banksy.co.uk website. Some of which get removed by people with a lot of money and sold to investors with even more money.
This is my first posting in this board even I'm a member since years and read a lot here. I own this wheelclamp since more than two years now. I purchased it personally from an oldtimer-dealer in south Germany who brought it from London around 2005: Since then I made a lot of research.. and have got a reply from PCO: The results are contradictory. - It's an original wheel-clamp/carboot like it is still used today in London - The optical appearance of the object is authentically old (rusty, scratched) - This motive appeared in Banksys early period in Bristol and recently 2000/2001 in London - The motive has been used in two versions on canvases; the strongest differentiation is the middle pair of legs (older motive = the space between is painted black; younger = the space is kept free) - A canvas of the newer motive was auctioned at Bonhams in 2007: www.bonhams.com/auctions/14942/lot/369/ , conforms 1:1 to the motive on the object; In my theory the object was created around the year 2000 and Banksys first show in London, similar to the above mentioned canvas (Bonhams refers to it in their detail discription, see link). Banksy painted several motives on plain whited-out walls and sold the motives on canvas seperately; this photo shows this wall, see the (younger) motive in the lower left corner: .. POC wrote more then a year ago (after some exchange via mail and several month of waiting): " Hi xxx. The clamp is a fake, it isnโt by Banksy. Kind regards Pest Control Office " I wonder that they make a statement on a street art piece since they claim that they generally don't do it. I'm very interested in the opinions here? Have you ever seen such an object (Clamp + HW) or any older HW fakes? Looking forward to the exchange here.. Seems clear enough. Pest Control say it's a fake and therefore only has novelty value. I hope this old time dealer didn't sell you a stolen wheel clamp. I think if PC says they do not authenticate a street piece, regarding some other street piece and do not say that piece is a fake. It could be that PC is not 100% certain Banksy did not do it and anyway have a blanket policy of not autheticating street pieces. Excluding of course all of the street pieces that are authenticated by being shown on Banksy.co.uk website. Some of which get removed by people with a lot of money and sold to investors with even more money. |
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by bernsteiner on May 15, 2017 10:14:22 GMT 1, you are only talking about money. I think it's clear that I won't sell it and that PC said it's a fake. I love this piece (even more because it feels undervalued in historical relevance to me).
Beside this valuation-discussion..
Is it a fake only because PC says it? No. Show the Haring Foundation a Keith Haring signature he gave you personally in the 80s and they call it a fake. It's a mechanism to drive prices ..
Did anybody here ever got a reply by PC: "It's a fake?"
I don't have any doubts that it's not a real piece of Banksy or his fellows. The answer "We won't authenticate it" would have maked it easier..
you are only talking about money. I think it's clear that I won't sell it and that PC said it's a fake. I love this piece (even more because it feels undervalued in historical relevance to me).
Beside this valuation-discussion..
Is it a fake only because PC says it? No. Show the Haring Foundation a Keith Haring signature he gave you personally in the 80s and they call it a fake. It's a mechanism to drive prices ..
Did anybody here ever got a reply by PC: "It's a fake?"
I don't have any doubts that it's not a real piece of Banksy or his fellows. The answer "We won't authenticate it" would have maked it easier..
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by Happy Shopper on May 15, 2017 10:21:30 GMT 1, But why do they say it and did't reject the authentication like normally? What's their agenda with banksys street art pieces? Like I know they (don't) authenticate to devalue it..
The difference is this:
1. If it was by Banksy but not something they could authenticate (Not a work of art made for sale), they'd say "We can't authenticate it".
2. If it's not by Banksy at all, they say "It's fake".
They know what pieces are real and what aren't.
Is that simple enough?
But why do they say it and did't reject the authentication like normally? What's their agenda with banksys street art pieces? Like I know they (don't) authenticate to devalue it.. The difference is this: 1. If it was by Banksy but not something they could authenticate (Not a work of art made for sale), they'd say "We can't authenticate it". 2. If it's not by Banksy at all, they say "It's fake". They know what pieces are real and what aren't. Is that simple enough? |
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by Deleted on May 15, 2017 10:21:49 GMT 1, Have you tried Lamberty?
Have you tried Lamberty?
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by Fake on May 15, 2017 10:30:11 GMT 1, But why do they say it and did't reject the authentication like normally? What's their agenda with banksys street art pieces? Like I know they (don't) authenticate to devalue it.. The difference is this: 1. If it was by Banksy but not something they could authenticate (Not a work of art made for sale), they'd say "We can't authenticate it". 2. If it's not by Banksy at all, they say "It's fake". They know what pieces are real and what aren't. Is that simple enough?
So this means if they say they "can't authenticate" it, they just authenticated it by not saying its a fake?
And every street piece with this reply has authentication?
But why do they say it and did't reject the authentication like normally? What's their agenda with banksys street art pieces? Like I know they (don't) authenticate to devalue it.. The difference is this: 1. If it was by Banksy but not something they could authenticate (Not a work of art made for sale), they'd say "We can't authenticate it". 2. If it's not by Banksy at all, they say "It's fake". They know what pieces are real and what aren't. Is that simple enough? So this means if they say they "can't authenticate" it, they just authenticated it by not saying its a fake? And every street piece with this reply has authentication? |
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by SturbanHasSaggyTits on May 15, 2017 10:35:38 GMT 1, The difference is this: 1. If it was by Banksy but not something they could authenticate (Not a work of art made for sale), they'd say "We can't authenticate it". 2. If it's not by Banksy at all, they say "It's fake". They know what pieces are real and what aren't. Is that simple enough? So this means if they say they "can't authenticate" it, they just authenticated it by not saying its a fake?ย And every street piece with this reply has authentication?ย
That was my thoughts.
The difference is this: 1. If it was by Banksy but not something they could authenticate (Not a work of art made for sale), they'd say "We can't authenticate it". 2. If it's not by Banksy at all, they say "It's fake". They know what pieces are real and what aren't. Is that simple enough? So this means if they say they "can't authenticate" it, they just authenticated it by not saying its a fake?ย And every street piece with this reply has authentication?ย That was my thoughts. |
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by SturbanHasSaggyTits on May 15, 2017 10:36:23 GMT 1,
He's not selling.
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by Happy Shopper on May 15, 2017 10:37:04 GMT 1, The difference is this: 1. If it was by Banksy but not something they could authenticate (Not a work of art made for sale), they'd say "We can't authenticate it". 2. If it's not by Banksy at all, they say "It's fake". They know what pieces are real and what aren't. Is that simple enough? So this means if they say they "can't authenticate" it, they just authenticated it by not saying its a fake? And every street piece with this reply has authentication?
Not really... It's saying "we don't know" or "won't say"... plus they'd probably add something about not being able to confirm one way or the other, or this wasn't a work for sale so can't authenticate it.
By confirming this piece is fake I think they're just trying to help someone to not make a massive mistake by buying it... Maybe they've been too generous in their reply on this one, or maybe it's a new policy.
The difference is this: 1. If it was by Banksy but not something they could authenticate (Not a work of art made for sale), they'd say "We can't authenticate it". 2. If it's not by Banksy at all, they say "It's fake". They know what pieces are real and what aren't. Is that simple enough? So this means if they say they "can't authenticate" it, they just authenticated it by not saying its a fake? And every street piece with this reply has authentication? Not really... It's saying "we don't know" or "won't say"... plus they'd probably add something about not being able to confirm one way or the other, or this wasn't a work for sale so can't authenticate it. By confirming this piece is fake I think they're just trying to help someone to not make a massive mistake by buying it... Maybe they've been too generous in their reply on this one, or maybe it's a new policy. |
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by SturbanHasSaggyTits on May 15, 2017 10:41:01 GMT 1, So this means if they say they "can't authenticate" it, they just authenticated it by not saying its a fake?ย And every street piece with this reply has authentication?ย Not really... It's saying "we don't know" or "won't say"... plus they'd probably add something about not being able to confirm one way or the other, or this wasn't a work for sale so can't authenticate it. By confirming this piece is fake I think they're just trying to help someone to not make a massive mistake by buying it.
If that's the case, then you now have 3 categories of authentication from PC.
A sellers dream, if you have the 'we will not authenticate' reply.
So this means if they say they "can't authenticate" it, they just authenticated it by not saying its a fake?ย And every street piece with this reply has authentication?ย Not really... It's saying "we don't know" or "won't say"... plus they'd probably add something about not being able to confirm one way or the other, or this wasn't a work for sale so can't authenticate it. By confirming this piece is fake I think they're just trying to help someone to not make a massive mistake by buying it. If that's the case, then you now have 3 categories of authentication from PC. A sellers dream, if you have the 'we will not authenticate' reply. |
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by Dr Plip on May 15, 2017 10:46:26 GMT 1, Not really... It's saying "we don't know" or "won't say"... plus they'd probably add something about not being able to confirm one way or the other, or this wasn't a work for sale so can't authenticate it. By confirming this piece is fake I think they're just trying to help someone to not make a massive mistake by buying it. If that's the case, then you now have 3 categories of authentication from PC. A sellers dream, if you have the 'we will not authenticate' reply. I was thinking that. A few times now, I've seen people trying to sell street pieces, saying something like "I've been in touch with PC, but as everyone knows, they won't authentic street pieces, blah, blah"
Which is a better comment or email trail for an online pedlar of traffic cones to have than an email saying "It's fake and not by Banksy".
I guess it comes down to how much people want to believe they're purchasing a genuine item, touched by the spray of Banksy.
Not really... It's saying "we don't know" or "won't say"... plus they'd probably add something about not being able to confirm one way or the other, or this wasn't a work for sale so can't authenticate it. By confirming this piece is fake I think they're just trying to help someone to not make a massive mistake by buying it. If that's the case, then you now have 3 categories of authentication from PC. A sellers dream, if you have the 'we will not authenticate' reply. I was thinking that. A few times now, I've seen people trying to sell street pieces, saying something like "I've been in touch with PC, but as everyone knows, they won't authentic street pieces, blah, blah"
Which is a better comment or email trail for an online pedlar of traffic cones to have than an email saying "It's fake and not by Banksy".
I guess it comes down to how much people want to believe they're purchasing a genuine item, touched by the spray of Banksy. |
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by Dr Plip on May 15, 2017 10:53:23 GMT 1, I don't know how many times PC were contacted about this piece, but the OP said:
"POC wrote more then a year ago (after some exchange via mail and several month of waiting)"
That could imply that PC were contacted more than once. Perhaps they finally had a sense of humour failure regarding the enquiries about the piece, or perhaps the OP, the person they purchased it from, and possibly others, have all submitted requests for information or authentication about this exact item? Maybe they decided to draw a line under the whole thing?
Or, perhaps their policies and standard replies have now changed? I guess we won't know until someone else contacts them with an enquiry about a street piece?
I'm surprised they don't ask folk to pay for the item to be posted to (and back from) Pest Control HQ for an authentication request.
I don't know how many times PC were contacted about this piece, but the OP said:
"POC wrote more then a year ago (after some exchange via mail and several month of waiting)"
That could imply that PC were contacted more than once. Perhaps they finally had a sense of humour failure regarding the enquiries about the piece, or perhaps the OP, the person they purchased it from, and possibly others, have all submitted requests for information or authentication about this exact item? Maybe they decided to draw a line under the whole thing?
Or, perhaps their policies and standard replies have now changed? I guess we won't know until someone else contacts them with an enquiry about a street piece?
I'm surprised they don't ask folk to pay for the item to be posted to (and back from) Pest Control HQ for an authentication request.
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by SturbanHasSaggyTits on May 15, 2017 10:57:46 GMT 1, I'd be interested to know if anyone has ever had an original or print 'not authorised' by PC overturned and then provided with a Coa.
I'd be interested to know if anyone has ever had an original or print 'not authorised' by PC overturned and then provided with a Coa.
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by Dr Plip on May 15, 2017 11:02:03 GMT 1, Either way, the clamp has it's own place in street art history and the mythology of Banksy.
In years to come, your family will be able to regale visitors with anecdotes regarding Banksy's art and how it spawned a whole generation of artists, a few vandals, astronomical print prices, countless canvas prints, iPhone covers, mugs, online forum arguments and fake street pieces.
And this clamp has a place in that story. Even if it wasn't created by Banksy, it certainly exists and is in your keeping because of Banksy.
That's the best I can offer you on a Monday morning. I got my own problems.
x
Either way, the clamp has it's own place in street art history and the mythology of Banksy.
In years to come, your family will be able to regale visitors with anecdotes regarding Banksy's art and how it spawned a whole generation of artists, a few vandals, astronomical print prices, countless canvas prints, iPhone covers, mugs, online forum arguments and fake street pieces.
And this clamp has a place in that story. Even if it wasn't created by Banksy, it certainly exists and is in your keeping because of Banksy.
That's the best I can offer you on a Monday morning. I got my own problems.
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by SturbanHasSaggyTits on May 15, 2017 11:08:57 GMT 1, I don't know how many times PC were contacted about this piece, but the OP said:
"POC wrote more then a year ago (after some exchange via mail and several month of waiting)"
That could imply that PC were contacted more than once. Perhaps they finally had a sense of humour failure regarding the enquiries about the piece, or perhaps the OP, the person they purchased it from, and possibly others, have all submitted requests for information or authentication about this exact item? Maybe they decided to draw a line under the whole thing?
Or, perhaps their policies and standard replies have now changed? I guess we won't know until someone else contacts them with an enquiry about a street piece?
I'm surprised they don't ask folk to pay for the item to be posted to (and back from) Pest Control HQ for an authentication request.
I think that's the correct answer.
Maybe the first time a street piece has been submitted and logged by pc with a reply of 'we will not authenticate'. If the piece is then resubmitted then maybe just an automatic 'this is fake'.
I don't know how many times PC were contacted about this piece, but the OP said:
"POC wrote more then a year ago (after some exchange via mail and several month of waiting)"
That could imply that PC were contacted more than once. Perhaps they finally had a sense of humour failure regarding the enquiries about the piece, or perhaps the OP, the person they purchased it from, and possibly others, have all submitted requests for information or authentication about this exact item? Maybe they decided to draw a line under the whole thing?
Or, perhaps their policies and standard replies have now changed? I guess we won't know until someone else contacts them with an enquiry about a street piece?
I'm surprised they don't ask folk to pay for the item to be posted to (and back from) Pest Control HQ for an authentication request.
I think that's the correct answer. Maybe the first time a street piece has been submitted and logged by pc with a reply of 'we will not authenticate'. If the piece is then resubmitted then maybe just an automatic 'this is fake'. |
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by Dr Plip on May 15, 2017 11:10:48 GMT 1, I'd be interested to know if anyone has ever had an original or print 'not authorised' by PC overturned and then provided with a Coa. Hmm.
You wouldn't mention it in passing to a prospective buyer though.
"Funny story. The hassle I had getting a certificate from PC over this. Back and forth, back and forth, and at one stage, they said it wasn't authorised by..."
*running footstep sounds*
"Wait! Where you going?"
I'd be interested to know if anyone has ever had an original or print 'not authorised' by PC overturned and then provided with a Coa. Hmm.
You wouldn't mention it in passing to a prospective buyer though.
"Funny story. The hassle I had getting a certificate from PC over this. Back and forth, back and forth, and at one stage, they said it wasn't authorised by..."
*running footstep sounds*
"Wait! Where you going?"
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by Flashback on May 15, 2017 11:31:06 GMT 1, It might be as easy as when they asked Banksy if he ever done a heavy weaponry stencil on a wheel clamp, the answer was no.
It might be as easy as when they asked Banksy if he ever done a heavy weaponry stencil on a wheel clamp, the answer was no.
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by bernsteiner on May 15, 2017 14:41:06 GMT 1, Initially I wrote them once via email with photos of the clamp, then they replied personally:
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Hi XXX,
Please submit this for authentication via the form on our website, we will need to see uncropped images of the front and back of the piece and we will need to know where you got the piece.
Kind regards
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Then I submitted my request via the form and got an Filing No. I never got a reply on that official authentication request.
After six month of waiting I replied to the first mail exchange, asked for updates and then they replied (after another four weeks) with the "It's a fake"-answer.
Initially I wrote them once via email with photos of the clamp, then they replied personally:
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Hi XXX,
Please submit this for authentication via the form on our website, we will need to see uncropped images of the front and back of the piece and we will need to know where you got the piece.
Kind regards
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Then I submitted my request via the form and got an Filing No. I never got a reply on that official authentication request.
After six month of waiting I replied to the first mail exchange, asked for updates and then they replied (after another four weeks) with the "It's a fake"-answer.
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Unica
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November 2013
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by Unica on May 15, 2017 15:14:48 GMT 1, I doubt any gallery selling Banksy prints would touch this piece, now its deemed a fake by Pest Control. Unless it sells its sold for few hundred quid for novelty value.
I doubt any gallery selling Banksy prints would touch this piece, now its deemed a fake by Pest Control. Unless it sells its sold for few hundred quid for novelty value. |
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Matt
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September 2014
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by Matt on May 15, 2017 15:48:00 GMT 1, I doubt any gallery selling Banksy prints would touch this piece, now its deemed a fake by Pest Control. Unless it sells its sold for few hundred quid for novelty value.
Dubious provenenace and possibly stolen pieces do not necessarily bother Lamberty...
I doubt any gallery selling Banksy prints would touch this piece, now its deemed a fake by Pest Control. Unless it sells its sold for few hundred quid for novelty value. Dubious provenenace and possibly stolen pieces do not necessarily bother Lamberty... |
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tartarus
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February 2013
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by tartarus on May 15, 2017 16:40:54 GMT 1, I doubt any gallery selling Banksy prints would touch this piece, now its deemed a fake by Pest Control. Unless it sells its sold for few hundred quid for novelty value. Dubious provenenace and possibly stolen pieces do not necessarily bother Lamberty...
I doubt any gallery selling Banksy prints would touch this piece, now its deemed a fake by Pest Control. Unless it sells its sold for few hundred quid for novelty value. Dubious provenenace and possibly stolen pieces do not necessarily bother Lamberty... Too right. Lamberty would sell your granny if you told him she once sat next to Banksy on a train! |
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Dr Plip
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August 2011
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by Dr Plip on May 15, 2017 16:56:59 GMT 1, Dubious provenenace and possibly stolen pieces do not necessarily bother Lamberty... Too right. Lamberty would sell your granny if you told him she once sat next to Banksy on a train! Lamberty currently printing off a copy of your comment. It'll be framed and for sale on his website within the hour.
"Genuine comment from the Banksy forum" ยฃpoa
Dubious provenenace and possibly stolen pieces do not necessarily bother Lamberty... Too right. Lamberty would sell your granny if you told him she once sat next to Banksy on a train! Lamberty currently printing off a copy of your comment. It'll be framed and for sale on his website within the hour.
"Genuine comment from the Banksy forum" ยฃpoa
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Dr Plip
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August 2011
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Heavy Weaponry Clamp, by Dr Plip on May 15, 2017 16:59:25 GMT 1, An antique dealer once told me that POA stood for "Plucked Out of Arse".
Anyway GLWS.
An antique dealer once told me that POA stood for "Plucked Out of Arse".
Anyway GLWS. |
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