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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Daniel Silk on Aug 19, 2016 21:52:27 GMT 1, Wouldn't it look great float mounted in a nice deep box frame just as it is ! I agree it's got character and history to it as it is.
Wouldn't it look great float mounted in a nice deep box frame just as it is ! I agree it's got character and history to it as it is.
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by lha on Aug 19, 2016 21:56:37 GMT 1, I offer a unique service to 'authentically adjust' any mint Banksy prints to the knackered old state of this particular Rat. Comes with 'Certificate Of Ageing' that validates this time consuming and technically delicate process. Prices start at ยฃ750, PM if interested...
I offer a unique service to 'authentically adjust' any mint Banksy prints to the knackered old state of this particular Rat. Comes with 'Certificate Of Ageing' that validates this time consuming and technically delicate process. Prices start at ยฃ750, PM if interested...
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by DrWhite on Aug 19, 2016 21:58:07 GMT 1, Wouldn't it look great float mounted in a nice deep box frame just as it is ! Says the man with OCD!! ๐
Sshhhhh !
Wouldn't it look great float mounted in a nice deep box frame just as it is ! Says the man with OCD!! ๐ Sshhhhh !
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by chads007 on Aug 19, 2016 21:59:17 GMT 1, I'm offer a unique service to 'authentically adjust' any mint Banksy prints to the knackered old state of this particular Rat. Comes with 'Certificate of Ageing' that validates this time costuming and technically delicate process. Prices start at ยฃ750, PM if interested...
With romantic backstory included to look back on with rose-tinted..
I'm offer a unique service to 'authentically adjust' any mint Banksy prints to the knackered old state of this particular Rat. Comes with 'Certificate of Ageing' that validates this time costuming and technically delicate process. Prices start at ยฃ750, PM if interested... With romantic backstory included to look back on with rose-tinted..
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Howard Johnson on Aug 19, 2016 22:29:17 GMT 1, I've got a old Castelli Warhol invitation that was folded in a similer manner. Even after restoration there's always gonna be noticeable indentations, albeit much better then without.
My advice: drymount it. It will cost you 20$ and will probably fix the creases as well as restoration would. Its considered a death sentence in terms of value, but I think you'd still get the same amount you would have with the addition costs of restoration factored in. Good luck!
I've got a old Castelli Warhol invitation that was folded in a similer manner. Even after restoration there's always gonna be noticeable indentations, albeit much better then without.
My advice: drymount it. It will cost you 20$ and will probably fix the creases as well as restoration would. Its considered a death sentence in terms of value, but I think you'd still get the same amount you would have with the addition costs of restoration factored in. Good luck!
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by mojo on Aug 20, 2016 1:22:17 GMT 1, Opps! I'm not sure a restorer would even go near that? I had a 3" crease in a print removed years ago, it cost me 500 quid and you could still faintly see it afterwards and it was nowhere near as bad as that. I think they do a 'wash' during the process so the colour fades slightly too...You could always get the ironing board and brown paper out and window putty works to remove dirty marks. I'd get a proper bashed up fancy gold frame and always hang it wonky ..... in the toilet. I'd love to see the faces of Pest Control when that go's in for authenticity ....... priceless
Opps! I'm not sure a restorer would even go near that? I had a 3" crease in a print removed years ago, it cost me 500 quid and you could still faintly see it afterwards and it was nowhere near as bad as that. I think they do a 'wash' during the process so the colour fades slightly too...You could always get the ironing board and brown paper out and window putty works to remove dirty marks. I'd get a proper bashed up fancy gold frame and always hang it wonky ..... in the toilet. I'd love to see the faces of Pest Control when that go's in for authenticity ....... priceless
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Aug 20, 2016 1:37:14 GMT 1, Just frame it as is, there are probably a few rough old cardboard or torn paper originals which have PC that we haven't seen in here?
Just frame it as is, there are probably a few rough old cardboard or torn paper originals which have PC that we haven't seen in here?
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Aza on Aug 20, 2016 6:28:31 GMT 1, I would frame it crooked with small nails instead of adhesive. It's fucked so you might as well go all the way.
This is a good idea.
Also stick a little white card on the wall next to it with the back story printed on. Like in a museum.
I did something similar with a Tox canvas I have.
I would frame it crooked with small nails instead of adhesive. It's fucked so you might as well go all the way. This is a good idea. Also stick a little white card on the wall next to it with the back story printed on. Like in a museum. I did something similar with a Tox canvas I have.
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Castle Gallery NI on Aug 20, 2016 7:32:37 GMT 1, nick id love this for the gallery not to sell just to hang for a talking point, a suggestion, ask your friend if i sent her ยฃ200 would she send it over on loan and if she decides she wants to sell ill ship it back, she can keep the 200, id like to have it longish term if possible but it will still be hers, hopefully i can reuse the pinholes and pin it onto plywood and hang like that.
nick id love this for the gallery not to sell just to hang for a talking point, a suggestion, ask your friend if i sent her ยฃ200 would she send it over on loan and if she decides she wants to sell ill ship it back, she can keep the 200, id like to have it longish term if possible but it will still be hers, hopefully i can reuse the pinholes and pin it onto plywood and hang like that.
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 7:54:50 GMT 1, I would take it as is, not restore it just chuck it in a frame and enjoy it as is...... Image needs to be displayed instead of being folded in a book
Then again, better to be folded in a book, than crisp and clean in a folder.....
Edit : Just now read Castle's reply.... Sell it to Andy instead, he wil make good use of it!
I would take it as is, not restore it just chuck it in a frame and enjoy it as is...... Image needs to be displayed instead of being folded in a book Then again, better to be folded in a book, than crisp and clean in a folder.....Edit : Just now read Castle's reply.... Sell it to Andy instead, he wil make good use of it!
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by RoboJ on Aug 20, 2016 9:20:46 GMT 1, Sent a PM yesterday. Such a great find and would look amazing framed as is. Absolutely love it but maybe too expensive.
Sent a PM yesterday. Such a great find and would look amazing framed as is. Absolutely love it but maybe too expensive.
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by thomasmer on Aug 20, 2016 9:56:19 GMT 1, POW still have that mound of over prints?
POW still have that mound of over prints?
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by thomasmer on Aug 20, 2016 10:00:00 GMT 1, I used to have a rude copper that was taped, pinned, blue tac'ed to the door.
I used to have a rude copper that was taped, pinned, blue tac'ed to the door.
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 10:22:46 GMT 1, I think Andy has a great idea at Castle Gallery...leave it as it is ! let him borrow it to stick it on the wall as how things have progressed and perceptions changed...i love that idea...! it will contrast well with his gallery works.
do not restore it !! nor sell it IMO
I think Andy has a great idea at Castle Gallery...leave it as it is ! let him borrow it to stick it on the wall as how things have progressed and perceptions changed...i love that idea...! it will contrast well with his gallery works.
do not restore it !! nor sell it IMO
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Nick on Aug 20, 2016 10:50:09 GMT 1, nick id love this for the gallery not to sell just to hang for a talking point, a suggestion, ask your friend if i sent her ยฃ200 would she send it over on loan and if she decides she wants to sell ill ship it back, she can keep the 200, id like to have it longish term if possible but it will still be hers, hopefully i can reuse the pinholes and pin it onto plywood and hang like that. I have sent her the url of this thread and asked for a response to this specific comment so will keep you posted!
nick id love this for the gallery not to sell just to hang for a talking point, a suggestion, ask your friend if i sent her ยฃ200 would she send it over on loan and if she decides she wants to sell ill ship it back, she can keep the 200, id like to have it longish term if possible but it will still be hers, hopefully i can reuse the pinholes and pin it onto plywood and hang like that. I have sent her the url of this thread and asked for a response to this specific comment so will keep you posted!
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by chads007 on Aug 20, 2016 11:17:13 GMT 1, If she has bad memories of it, a charity auction could work
If she has bad memories of it, a charity auction could work
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by dotdot on Aug 20, 2016 11:55:33 GMT 1, In the condition it's in it's worth close to jack. It needs work and will cost a fair amount to resolve ; as many may have said in the past I'd steer clear of mr bignell, yes I know it's a tough one for some to contemplate ..but no ! his tenacity has swayed some of late.
The work required would take a few iterations , but I'd think would come back to at least b- and as such worth a bit of coinage.
Not to mention the coa ..
Have you seen worse ? I've seen an amount of damage and this is probably the worst of it , blue tack is common as are pen marks ...
In the condition it's in it's worth close to jack. It needs work and will cost a fair amount to resolve ; as many may have said in the past I'd steer clear of mr bignell, yes I know it's a tough one for some to contemplate ..but no ! his tenacity has swayed some of late.
The work required would take a few iterations , but I'd think would come back to at least b- and as such worth a bit of coinage.
Not to mention the coa ..
Have you seen worse ? I've seen an amount of damage and this is probably the worst of it , blue tack is common as are pen marks ...
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 14:18:22 GMT 1, I'd leave it as it is and apply for a COA.
I'd leave it as it is and apply for a COA.
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by thisisanton on Aug 20, 2016 17:19:22 GMT 1, One good thing is that if you need to mail it to PC, you can just fold it up and put it in a letter envelope.
Cheap ex boyfriend didn't even buy the signed one.
One good thing is that if you need to mail it to PC, you can just fold it up and put it in a letter envelope. Cheap ex boyfriend didn't even buy the signed one.
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Cornish Crayon on Aug 20, 2016 17:35:18 GMT 1, I'm still waiting for PC since January with original receipt ............ so good luck with your couple of months theory
I'm still waiting for PC since January with original receipt ............ so good luck with your couple of months theory
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by tab1 on Aug 20, 2016 18:17:11 GMT 1, Would love to see after pics after the print has been rectified , Would not think this could be fixed? Great if it can ยฃ1000-1500 as is if people are offering that I would sell
Would love to see after pics after the print has been rectified , Would not think this could be fixed? Great if it can ยฃ1000-1500 as is if people are offering that I would sell
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by met on Aug 20, 2016 18:45:18 GMT 1, Theres something beautiful about it just the way it is, authentic, obviously financially restorations the way to go but if that doesnt work out give me a shout, i love the idea of nailing it to the wall, good talking point on how far Bs come/perception has changed. There is something to be said about used, original condition. Classic cars are going this route. Can only be original once. Even if it is thoroughly used. I'm not a big fan of Love Rat, having never understood the point of the antenna โ as mentioned here two years ago (a failure on my part to initiate a proper discussion about the image).
Regarding this particular print, the backstory is entertaining. But it's sad as well. What it emphasises is a division between:
(i) those who hold the practice of artmaking in high esteem; and (ii) those who are largely indifferent to art, at least until it becomes expensive.
In an old interview, a perceptive Judith Supine commented, "Once artwork has financial value, people respect it, and this often skews their perception of its aesthetic value."
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Scenario to illustrate my point about a chasm:
1. Today, you're gifted a limited edition work on paper.
2. The printmaking method is immaterial; it could be a lowly giclรฉe or offset lithograph.
3. For the sake of argument, the print is by a complete unknown (not by an artist who, in 2004 or 2005, was already notorious among those taking any active interest in street art, contemporary art or design).
4. You're not sure, but you imagine this was purchased for around ยฃ20 (i.e. something cheap and cheerful, as opposed to the ยฃ74.99 + postage that an unsigned Love Rat cost at source).
5. Let's also say you feel this gift is so-so; it's okay to hang, but you aren't enamoured with it.
Assuming all the above, how many forum members would still even consider folding the print twice in half and storing it in a book?
My argument is that the ones who would are alien โ as alien to me as people who behave rudely to service industry staff.
Theres something beautiful about it just the way it is, authentic, obviously financially restorations the way to go but if that doesnt work out give me a shout, i love the idea of nailing it to the wall, good talking point on how far Bs come/perception has changed. There is something to be said about used, original condition. Classic cars are going this route. Can only be original once. Even if it is thoroughly used. I'm not a big fan of Love Rat, having never understood the point of the antenna โ as mentioned here two years ago (a failure on my part to initiate a proper discussion about the image). Regarding this particular print, the backstory is entertaining. But it's sad as well. What it emphasises is a division between: (i) those who hold the practice of artmaking in high esteem; and (ii) those who are largely indifferent to art, at least until it becomes expensive. In an old interview, a perceptive Judith Supine commented, "Once artwork has financial value, people respect it, and this often skews their perception of its aesthetic value."---------- Scenario to illustrate my point about a chasm: 1. Today, you're gifted a limited edition work on paper. 2. The printmaking method is immaterial; it could be a lowly giclรฉe or offset lithograph. 3. For the sake of argument, the print is by a complete unknown (not by an artist who, in 2004 or 2005, was already notorious among those taking any active interest in str eet art, contemporary art or design). 4. You're not sure, but you imagine this was purchased for around ยฃ20 (i.e. something cheap and cheerful, as opposed to the ยฃ74.99 + postage that an unsigned Love Rat cost at source). 5. Let's also say you feel this gift is so-so; it's okay to hang, but you aren't enamoured with it. Assuming all the ab ove, how many forum members would still even consider folding the print twice in half and storing it in a book? My argument is that the ones who would are alien โ as alien to me as people who behave rudely to service industry staff.
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 19:14:54 GMT 1, I'm still waiting for PC since January with original receipt ............ so good luck with your couple of months theory
Ahh, so my 6 weeks and waiting could just be the start
I'm still waiting for PC since January with original receipt ............ so good luck with your couple of months theory Ahh, so my 6 weeks and waiting could just be the start
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Castle Gallery NI on Aug 20, 2016 19:19:50 GMT 1, Im not sure how others view love rat but to me i read it love rat, someone who cheats, the irony of the rat painting a heart, its surprising how popular it is with couples. met perhaps the aerial is to do with receiving signals/body language etc that somethings not right in the relationship/with the partner. Would be interesting to hear the owners reason for folding it twice and storing in a book, it is an odd choice.
Im not sure how others view love rat but to me i read it love rat, someone who cheats, the irony of the rat painting a heart, its surprising how popular it is with couples. met perhaps the aerial is to do with receiving signals/body language etc that somethings not right in the relationship/with the partner. Would be interesting to hear the owners reason for folding it twice and storing in a book, it is an odd choice.
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 19:25:55 GMT 1, I'm still waiting for PC since January with original receipt ............ so good luck with your couple of months theory Ahh, so my 6 weeks and waiting could just be the start
I think its still a bit hit and miss, some COA's or change of ownership requests are processed much quicker than others and not necessarily in date submitted order.
I'm still waiting for PC since January with original receipt ............ so good luck with your couple of months theory Ahh, so my 6 weeks and waiting could just be the start I think its still a bit hit and miss, some COA's or change of ownership requests are processed much quicker than others and not necessarily in date submitted order.
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by chads007 on Aug 20, 2016 19:39:50 GMT 1, Im not sure how others view love rat but to me i read it love rat, someone who cheats, the irony of the rat painting a heart, its surprising how popular it is with couples. met perhaps the aerial is to do with receiving signals/body language etc that somethings not right in the relationship/with the partner. Would be interesting to hear the owners reason for folding it twice and storing in a book, it is an odd choice.
Not sure if it's too odd. The guy who bought it probably just liked the image, had no interest in art in general I guess, maybe no other artwork in his possession, so no folios etc, and folding it in a book seemed the convenient/sensible choice so as not to lose it...twice as he probably didn't have a large enough book to keep it flat whole/fold once
Im not sure how others view love rat but to me i read it love rat, someone who cheats, the irony of the rat painting a heart, its surprising how popular it is with couples. met perhaps the aerial is to do with receiving signals/body language etc that somethings not right in the relationship/with the partner. Would be interesting to hear the owners reason for folding it twice and storing in a book, it is an odd choice. Not sure if it's too odd. The guy who bought it probably just liked the image, had no interest in art in general I guess, maybe no other artwork in his possession, so no folios etc, and folding it in a book seemed the convenient/sensible choice so as not to lose it...twice as he probably didn't have a large enough book to keep it flat whole/fold once
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Pipes on Aug 20, 2016 19:50:30 GMT 1, Ahh, so my 6 weeks and waiting could just be the start I think its still a bit hit and miss, some COA's or change of ownership requests are processed much quicker than others and not necessarily in date submitted order.
3-7 months in my experience.
Ahh, so my 6 weeks and waiting could just be the start I think its still a bit hit and miss, some COA's or change of ownership requests are processed much quicker than others and not necessarily in date submitted order. 3-7 months in my experience.
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 20:44:47 GMT 1, I'm still waiting for PC since January with original receipt ............ so good luck with your couple of months theory Never does any harm to slip a fiver and / some luncheon vouchers in with the pachage if you send one.
'pachage'?, wtf is that???
I'm still waiting for PC since January with original receipt ............ so good luck with your couple of months theory Never does any harm to slip a fiver and / some luncheon vouchers in with the pachage if you send one. 'pachage'?, wtf is that???
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Steph Rat Catcher on Aug 20, 2016 21:39:53 GMT 1, Nick . Can i ask what book was it in ? Thx steph
Nick . Can i ask what book was it in ? Thx steph
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Quinnster on Aug 20, 2016 22:25:36 GMT 1, Ahh, so my 6 weeks and waiting could just be the start I think its still a bit hit and miss, some COA's or change of ownership requests are processed much quicker than others and not necessarily in date submitted order.
Iv had Pest control take 48 hours to authentcated a print and 2 weeks to send COA, and then waited over a year for change of owner when print had rock solid province...
Ahh, so my 6 weeks and waiting could just be the start I think its still a bit hit and miss, some COA's or change of ownership requests are processed much quicker than others and not necessarily in date submitted order. Iv had Pest control take 48 hours to authentcated a print and 2 weeks to send COA, and then waited over a year for change of owner when print had rock solid province...
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