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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by Happy Shopper on Jan 26, 2016 10:20:06 GMT 1, Anyone know more about this?
Tristan has been teasing about a project he referred to as #Oceans14, that he's been planning for 5 years. His photos on Instagram show he's been in the UK, but this morning he and Futura have posted pictures of old Sea Forts! I guess they must be painting them!!
Looks like Red Sands Forts off the Kent coast!
http://instagram.com/p/BA_EIXlAQNI
http://instagram.com/p/BA_V94pCmYj
Anyone know more about this? Tristan has been teasing about a project he referred to as #Oceans14, that he's been planning for 5 years. His photos on Instagram show he's been in the UK, but this morning he and Futura have posted pictures of old Sea Forts! I guess they must be painting them!! Looks like Red Sands Forts off the Kent coast! http://instagram.com/p/BA_EIXlAQNI http://instagram.com/p/BA_V94pCmYj
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by Happy Shopper on Jan 26, 2016 10:55:35 GMT 1, In the comments Futura has also tagged Shepard Fairey, The London Police, and How and Nosm.
Any more to come? I think Ben Eine is back in the UK.
In the comments Futura has also tagged Shepard Fairey, The London Police, and How and Nosm.
Any more to come? I think Ben Eine is back in the UK.
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by tartarus on Jan 26, 2016 15:49:08 GMT 1, from the london police FB page.
Bob here. Anyone fancy painting a mural on one of the Maunsell sea forts this summer with @tristaneaton @hownosm @futuradosmil and @obeygiant. We do! Good job we've been invited. Check @thepaintedoceans for more info #โdeathatsea #โdangerouswork #โdaveyjoneslocker #โlifejacket #โbringyourarmbands #โmanup #โhello sailor
Along with a video of the forts.
from the london police FB page.
Bob here. Anyone fancy painting a mural on one of the Maunsell sea forts this summer with @tristaneaton @hownosm @futuradosmil and @obeygiant. We do! Good job we've been invited. Check @thepaintedoceans for more info #โdeathatsea #โdangerouswork #โdaveyjoneslocker #โlifejacket #โbringyourarmbands #โmanup #โhello sailor
Along with a video of the forts.
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by Happy Shopper on Jan 26, 2016 16:13:26 GMT 1,
All becomes clear!
All becomes clear!
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by Sacked... on Jan 26, 2016 17:02:26 GMT 1, From Tristans FB Page :
I am EXTREMELY proud to announce PAINTED OCEANS. Myself and a dedicated team will be painting murals on the infamous Red Sands Sea Forts this summer, 2016, off the East Coast of England! Iโve been working on this project for almost 5 years and have received support from local government and logistics partners and Iโm happy to say that we are set to go out into the North Sea and make history! Weโll be making a feature length documentary film on the whole project which will document murals by myself (@tristaneaton) Shepard Fairey (@obeygiant) Futura 2000 (@futuradosmil) How & Nosm (@hownosm) and The London Police (@thelondonpolice) and more as they face danger and risk it all to transform these iconic instruments of war into beautiful murals at sea! Big thank you to our team: @bareps pascal_franchot @markmacinnis @librarystreetcollective @montanacans @pangeaseed and of course #โPROJECTREDSAND โ HOWEVER - LINK IN BIO
From Tristans FB Page : I am EXTREMELY proud to announce PAINTED OCEANS. Myself and a dedicated team will be painting murals on the infamous Red Sands Sea Forts this summer, 2016, off the East Coast of England! Iโve been working on this project for almost 5 years and have received support from local government and logistics partners and Iโm happy to say that we are set to go out into the North Sea and make history! Weโll be making a feature length documentary film on the whole project which will document murals by myself (@tristaneaton) Shepard Fairey (@obeygiant) Futura 2000 (@futuradosmil) How & Nosm (@hownosm) and The London Police (@thelondonpolice) and more as they face danger and risk it all to transform these iconic instruments of war into beautiful murals at sea! Big thank you to our team: @bareps pascal_franchot @markmacinnis @librarystreetcollective @montanacans @pangeaseed and of course #โPROJECTREDSAND โ HOWEVER - LINK IN BIO
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by duggyfresh on Jan 26, 2016 17:57:44 GMT 1, Cool project and video, thanks for sharing.
Cool project and video, thanks for sharing.
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by Happy Shopper on Jan 26, 2016 22:38:59 GMT 1, Kick Starter for the project has now started:
Set of 5 prints for $4000 !
Kick Starter for the project has now started:
Set of 5 prints for $4000 !
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by doyle on Jan 27, 2016 11:39:55 GMT 1, What a fantastic project. I hope they pull this off spectacularly. Donate donate!
What a fantastic project. I hope they pull this off spectacularly. Donate donate!
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by Quinnster on Jan 27, 2016 15:31:51 GMT 1, Anyone know more about this? Tristan has been teasing about a project he referred to as #Oceans14, that he's been planning for 5 years. His photos on Instagram show he's been in the UK, but this morning he and Futura have posted pictures of old Sea Forts! I guess they must be painting them!! Looks like Red Sands Forts off the Kent coast! http://instagr.am/p/BA_EIXlAQNI http://instagr.am/p/BA_V94pCmYj
I saw if on sheps Instagram and thought I was the Forts, can see them from Whitstable :-)
Anyone know more about this? Tristan has been teasing about a project he referred to as #Oceans14, that he's been planning for 5 years. His photos on Instagram show he's been in the UK, but this morning he and Futura have posted pictures of old Sea Forts! I guess they must be painting them!! Looks like Red Sands Forts off the Kent coast! http://instagr.am/p/BA_EIXlAQNI http://instagr.am/p/BA_V94pCmYj I saw if on sheps Instagram and thought I was the Forts, can see them from Whitstable :-)
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by Deleted on Jan 27, 2016 15:50:45 GMT 1, So let's get this straight...this is a fundraising campaign for some artists to do something they thoroughly enjoy, which most of us will not have access to. But they want the public to pay for it?
F*** off!
Leave them alone.
So let's get this straight...this is a fundraising campaign for some artists to do something they thoroughly enjoy, which most of us will not have access to. But they want the public to pay for it?
F*** off!
Leave them alone.
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by Quinnster on Jan 27, 2016 16:05:44 GMT 1, So let's get this straight...this is a fundraising campaign for some artists to do something they thoroughly enjoy, which most of us will not have access to. But they want the public to pay for it?ย F*** off! Leave them alone.
And you won't be able to see it unless you have a boat...
So let's get this straight...this is a fundraising campaign for some artists to do something they thoroughly enjoy, which most of us will not have access to. But they want the public to pay for it?ย F*** off! Leave them alone. And you won't be able to see it unless you have a boat...
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by Deleted on Jan 27, 2016 16:14:04 GMT 1, So let's get this straight...this is a fundraising campaign for some artists to do something they thoroughly enjoy, which most of us will not have access to. But they want the public to pay for it? F*** off! Leave them alone. And you won't be able to see it unless you have a boat... But you'll get a glossy photo as a souvenir of the time these artists had a great time.
We could take this discussion further and debate whether it is right that something that is part of our history should be treated in such a way. Not everything is improved with lots of garish paint over it.
And they're not even British artists!
So let's get this straight...this is a fundraising campaign for some artists to do something they thoroughly enjoy, which most of us will not have access to. But they want the public to pay for it? F*** off! Leave them alone. And you won't be able to see it unless you have a boat... But you'll get a glossy photo as a souvenir of the time these artists had a great time. We could take this discussion further and debate whether it is right that something that is part of our history should be treated in such a way. Not everything is improved with lots of garish paint over it. And they're not even British artists!
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by Happy Shopper on Jan 27, 2016 19:00:43 GMT 1, So let's get this straight...this is a fundraising campaign for some artists to do something they thoroughly enjoy, which most of us will not have access to. But they want the public to pay for it? F*** off! Leave them alone. This was pretty much my thought too when I realised the Kickstarter isn't for a charity. It just seems to be to pay them to do it!
Unless this is an agreement with the charity that own the forts, as a way to get some PR for "free", gain public interest and hopefully further funding in the long run.
So let's get this straight...this is a fundraising campaign for some artists to do something they thoroughly enjoy, which most of us will not have access to. But they want the public to pay for it? F*** off! Leave them alone. This was pretty much my thought too when I realised the Kickstarter isn't for a charity. It just seems to be to pay them to do it! Unless this is an agreement with the charity that own the forts, as a way to get some PR for "free", gain public interest and hopefully further funding in the long run.
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by motor on Jan 28, 2016 10:18:08 GMT 1, A Vanity Project.
A Vanity Project.
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Dr Plip
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by Dr Plip on Jan 28, 2016 10:58:17 GMT 1, So let's get this straight...this is a fundraising campaign for some artists to do something they thoroughly enjoy, which most of us will not have access to. But they want the public to pay for it? F*** off! Leave them alone. This was pretty much my thought too when I realised the Kickstarter isn't for a charity. It just seems to be to pay them to do it! Unless this is an agreement with the charity that own the forts, as a way to get some PR for "free", gain public interest and hopefully further funding in the long run. This could be debated well into the night, but I've noticed that Kickstarter (and the like) are increasingly being used as a "no risk" platform for selling products. I have a friend that runs a gaming company, which is very successful, he's personally a millionaire, but he now uses Kickstarter/crowdfunding to raise money for products/games that, in the past, he would have had to have taken a financial gamble on.
I like the idea of Kickstarter enabling people to raise money to do something, when they have no (or little) money to begin with. But I'm not sure how I feel about people that already have the money to do it, but they just don't want to take on the financial risk or expense of the project.
I'm not sure if that's entirely in the spirit of Kickstarter.
But on the other hand, you could also argue that paying artists to create pretty pictures is basically you commissioning something. And both rich and poor artists have been taking money to do that for years.
I don't know what I am saying. I am nothing, not a spokesperson, etc.....
So let's get this straight...this is a fundraising campaign for some artists to do something they thoroughly enjoy, which most of us will not have access to. But they want the public to pay for it? F*** off! Leave them alone. This was pretty much my thought too when I realised the Kickstarter isn't for a charity. It just seems to be to pay them to do it! Unless this is an agreement with the charity that own the forts, as a way to get some PR for "free", gain public interest and hopefully further funding in the long run. This could be debated well into the night, but I've noticed that Kickstarter (and the like) are increasingly being used as a "no risk" platform for selling products. I have a friend that runs a gaming company, which is very successful, he's personally a millionaire, but he now uses Kickstarter/crowdfunding to raise money for products/games that, in the past, he would have had to have taken a financial gamble on. I like the idea of Kickstarter enabling people to raise money to do something, when they have no (or little) money to begin with. But I'm not sure how I feel about people that already have the money to do it, but they just don't want to take on the financial risk or expense of the project. I'm not sure if that's entirely in the spirit of Kickstarter. But on the other hand, you could also argue that paying artists to create pretty pictures is basically you commissioning something. And both rich and poor artists have been taking money to do that for years. I don't know what I am saying. I am nothing, not a spokesperson, etc.....
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by Deleted on Jan 28, 2016 11:03:04 GMT 1, Maybe if Shepard Fairey sells his house he could finance the whole project himself
Maybe if Shepard Fairey sells his house he could finance the whole project himself
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by Happy Shopper on Jan 28, 2016 11:09:47 GMT 1, I'm not sure if that's entirely in the spirit of Kickstarter. But on the other hand, you could also argue that paying artists to create pretty pictures is basically you commissioning something. And both rich and poor artists have been taking money to do that for years. I don't know what I am saying. I am nothing, not a spokesperson, etc..... As long as the rewards offered are good, then basically it is just a shop selling something to raise money (like the prints and stickers in this case)... I have no problem with that. It's win/win for everyone.
I've got involved in the other sort too though, where you're basically buying a product before it's been made, and I was a little disappointed with the end result.
I'm not sure if that's entirely in the spirit of Kickstarter. But on the other hand, you could also argue that paying artists to create pretty pictures is basically you commissioning something. And both rich and poor artists have been taking money to do that for years. I don't know what I am saying. I am nothing, not a spokesperson, etc..... As long as the rewards offered are good, then basically it is just a shop selling something to raise money (like the prints and stickers in this case)... I have no problem with that. It's win/win for everyone. I've got involved in the other sort too though, where you're basically buying a product before it's been made, and I was a little disappointed with the end result.
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by Dr Plip on Jan 28, 2016 11:13:07 GMT 1, Maybe if Shepard Fairey sells his house he could finance the whole project himself Or if the Kickstarter doesn't meet its target, then call off the house sale and the artists can go and paint the house. Awesome.
Maybe if Shepard Fairey sells his house he could finance the whole project himself Or if the Kickstarter doesn't meet its target, then call off the house sale and the artists can go and paint the house. Awesome.
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by Dr Plip on Jan 28, 2016 11:14:37 GMT 1, Wait a minute! I see what's going on here. This graffitification is just the first step towards the sea forts being turned into trendy apartments for the wealthy. Like the ultimate gated community.
Wait a minute! I see what's going on here. This graffitification is just the first step towards the sea forts being turned into trendy apartments for the wealthy. Like the ultimate gated community.
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Dr Plip
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by Dr Plip on Jan 28, 2016 11:15:08 GMT 1, I would like a 3D printed model of a sea fort though.
I would like a 3D printed model of a sea fort though.
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by Feral Things on Jan 28, 2016 23:43:20 GMT 1, Sure there will always have been vanity projects throughout time amoung other genres of art, but are they becoming the 'norm' amongst street / mural artists or has it always been part of the DNA of the scene? Peter Bengtsen ? Feral Things ? As you say, there have always been projects which appear a bit self indulgent; Leonardo spent 17 years working on what he intended to be the largest equestrian statue ever created but he never even completed that project!ย That said, I think 'vanity project' is a bit of a subjective term and you could argue that all art is about the artist to a certain extent.ย
There are similarities between this project and Invader putting up MIA_65 and MIA_66 on Stiltsville during the second wave in Miami (photos by wynwoodmap.com).ย I guess the difference for me is that Invader got on with the invasion rather than doing this kind of publicity before a spraycan (or tile) has even been lifted.ย Kickerstarter seemed like a great fit for what Swoon and Escif did but like many others on here it feels a bit odd to me for this project.
Personally, I love work that's done in out-of-the-way and inaccessible spaces. These pieces below were painted in locations that would only be seen by a very limited number of other writers and there's something about work that's created for its own sake rather than for the benefit of others that really appeals to me. Also,ย romanywg released a book called 'Out of Sight' which is worth picking up if anyone's interested in these sort of buried treasures.
It sounds a bit like they've jumped the gun on the Kickstarter as the trustees of the forts apparently haven't yet given their consent for the whole project.ย On another note, Roughs Tower (which is another Maunsell Sea Fort further out into the North Sea) has a much more interesting post-war history including the owners of the fort declaring it to be an independent country!ย I seem to remember this article from Wired being worth a read.
Sure there will always have been vanity projects throughout time amoung other genres of art, but are they becoming the 'norm' amongst street / mural artists or has it always been part of the DNA of the scene? Peter Bengtsen ? Feral Things ? As you say, there have always been projects which appear a bit self indulgent; Leonardo spent 17 years working on what he intended to be the largest equestrian statue ever created but he never even completed that project!ย That said, I think 'vanity project' is a bit of a subjective term and you could argue that all art is about the artist to a certain extent.ย There are similarities between this project and Invader putting up MIA_65 and MIA_66 on Stiltsville during the second wave in Miami (photos by wynwoodmap.com).ย I guess the difference for me is that Invader got on with the invasion rather than doing this kind of publicity before a spraycan (or tile) has even been lifted.ย Kickerstarter seemed like a great fit for what Swoon and Escif did but like many others on here it feels a bit odd to me for this project. Personally, I love work that's done in out-of-the-way and inaccessible spaces. These pieces below were painted in locations that would only be seen by a very limited number of other writers and there's something about work that's created for its own sake rather than for the benefit of others that really appeals to me. Also,ย romanywg released a book called ' Out of Sight' which is worth picking up if anyone's interested in these sort of buried treasures. It sounds a bit like they've jumped the gun on the Kickstarter as the trustees of the forts apparently haven't yet given their consent for the whole project.ย On another note, Roughs Tower (which is another Maunsell Sea Fort further out into the North Sea) has a much more interesting post-war history including the owners of the fort declaring it to be an independent country!ย I seem to remember this article from Wired being worth a read.
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by Coach on Jan 29, 2016 0:32:54 GMT 1, I agree Romanywg's book is well worth picking up.
I agree Romanywg's book is well worth picking up.
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by skylarkin on Feb 4, 2016 10:51:41 GMT 1,
Am so glad others see this for what it is! I saw this and got instantly annoyed with all involved. The money raised pays for their jolly, they have revenue streams coming from corporate advertising, print sales and film rights, and none of the money generated goes back into the upkeep of these historic buildings..one big circle jerk from what I can see!
Am so glad others see this for what it is! I saw this and got instantly annoyed with all involved. The money raised pays for their jolly, they have revenue streams coming from corporate advertising, print sales and film rights, and none of the money generated goes back into the upkeep of these historic buildings..one big circle jerk from what I can see!
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by Dr Plip on Feb 4, 2016 11:18:52 GMT 1, Am so glad others see this for what it is! I saw this and got instantly annoyed with all involved. The money raised pays for their jolly, they have revenue streams coming from corporate advertising, print sales and film rights, and none of the money generated goes back into the upkeep of these historic buildings..one big circle jerk from what I can see! I haven't been following the project, but have they got permission from the owners/trustees yet?
Am so glad others see this for what it is! I saw this and got instantly annoyed with all involved. The money raised pays for their jolly, they have revenue streams coming from corporate advertising, print sales and film rights, and none of the money generated goes back into the upkeep of these historic buildings..one big circle jerk from what I can see! I haven't been following the project, but have they got permission from the owners/trustees yet?
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by Happy Shopper on Feb 4, 2016 11:24:21 GMT 1, Am so glad others see this for what it is! I saw this and got instantly annoyed with all involved. The money raised pays for their jolly, they have revenue streams coming from corporate advertising, print sales and film rights, and none of the money generated goes back into the upkeep of these historic buildings..one big circle jerk from what I can see! I haven't been following the project, but have they got permission from the owners/trustees yet? I'd assume they had that before starting the promotion! Tristan and a team have clearly already been on the Forts, taking a look around.
Am so glad others see this for what it is! I saw this and got instantly annoyed with all involved. The money raised pays for their jolly, they have revenue streams coming from corporate advertising, print sales and film rights, and none of the money generated goes back into the upkeep of these historic buildings..one big circle jerk from what I can see! I haven't been following the project, but have they got permission from the owners/trustees yet? I'd assume they had that before starting the promotion! Tristan and a team have clearly already been on the Forts, taking a look around.
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by Complex iCom on Feb 4, 2016 11:35:57 GMT 1, I agree with feralthings comments regarding beautiful, colourful artwork in out of the way or urban settings, I would add that the reverse can also be quite striking, when political or psychological messages appear in some up market environments, it makes for a sharp contrast.
I agree with feralthings comments regarding beautiful, colourful artwork in out of the way or urban settings, I would add that the reverse can also be quite striking, when political or psychological messages appear in some up market environments, it makes for a sharp contrast.
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by Dr Plip on Feb 4, 2016 11:36:40 GMT 1, I haven't been following the project, but have they got permission from the owners/trustees yet? I'd assume they had that before starting the promotion! Tristan and a team have clearly already been on the Forts, taking a look around. I have no idea. I just did a quick Google and came up with the Project Redsand Facebook page. Their last post on 27th of January included this line "The Trust is in discussion about the proposals so nothing is yet set in stone. The mural artists are somewhat premature in publicising their initiative."
They've been quoted as suggesting that the project would be beneficial to the forts, but I can't see if they've made a decision yet.
Their facebook page has more information, comments, etc.
www.facebook.com/pages/Project-Redsand/100281160026958?ref=ts
At least it's got people discussing the future of the forts.
I haven't been following the project, but have they got permission from the owners/trustees yet? I'd assume they had that before starting the promotion! Tristan and a team have clearly already been on the Forts, taking a look around. I have no idea. I just did a quick Google and came up with the Project Redsand Facebook page. Their last post on 27th of January included this line "The Trust is in discussion about the proposals so nothing is yet set in stone. The mural artists are somewhat premature in publicising their initiative."
They've been quoted as suggesting that the project would be beneficial to the forts, but I can't see if they've made a decision yet.
Their facebook page has more information, comments, etc.
www.facebook.com/pages/Project-Redsand/100281160026958?ref=ts
At least it's got people discussing the future of the forts.
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Sea Forts Project - Tristan Eaton, Futura... Who else!?, by Happy Shopper on Feb 4, 2016 12:27:59 GMT 1, I have no idea. I just did a quick Google and came up with the Project Redsand Facebook page. Their last post on 27th of January included this line "The Trust is in discussion about the proposals so nothing is yet set in stone. The mural artists are somewhat premature in publicising their initiative."
Blimey! Hadn't seen that post. Sounds like they've not planned this too well!
I have no idea. I just did a quick Google and came up with the Project Redsand Facebook page. Their last post on 27th of January included this line "The Trust is in discussion about the proposals so nothing is yet set in stone. The mural artists are somewhat premature in publicising their initiative."
Blimey! Hadn't seen that post. Sounds like they've not planned this too well!
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