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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by Guest on Nov 13, 2012 19:55:58 GMT 1, Not really anything to do with me, but im guessing anything other than going down legal routes is classed as slander.
Innocenct until proven guilty.
Trial by forum probably is not wise no matter how bad the accusations.
If people are really that concerned they should seek legal advice imo or form a case as a group.
Not really anything to do with me, but im guessing anything other than going down legal routes is classed as slander.
Innocenct until proven guilty.
Trial by forum probably is not wise no matter how bad the accusations.
If people are really that concerned they should seek legal advice imo or form a case as a group.
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by Deleted on Nov 13, 2012 20:19:33 GMT 1, Wizzy - Wizzbong now showing as a guest! Hope your both well, must catch up soon - I know I keep saying that!
Both well LH, see you soon hopefully.
Wizzy - Wizzbong now showing as a guest! Hope your both well, must catch up soon - I know I keep saying that! Both well LH, see you soon hopefully.
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by Deleted on Nov 13, 2012 20:25:08 GMT 1, Glad your well Wizzy - Ok, you have not signed out for good - your a GUEST as standard!
Wizzy - Wizzbong now showing as a guest! Hope your both well, must catch up soon - I know I keep saying that! Both well LH, see you soon hopefully.
Glad your well Wizzy - Ok, you have not signed out for good - your a GUEST as standard! Wizzy - Wizzbong now showing as a guest! Hope your both well, must catch up soon - I know I keep saying that! Both well LH, see you soon hopefully.
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by Agent Provocateur on Nov 13, 2012 20:51:30 GMT 1, S*d that FR... he's been proven guilty hasn't he!? The article is pretty damning. I've talked to a few people stung by TLG as well as an artist and it all seems clear cut.
The more worrying thing is the censorship creeping in here, apart from this example haven't there been a few other disappearing posts/threads?
If dodgy practices and shady dealers can't be discussed when there's clear evidence then it's a pretty sad world... and not to go on (but I will) it's even worse if it happens on here, a street/urban art forum where there's a lot of members particularly interested in how governments, multi-national organisations and elite barstewards get to manipulate and control our lives in the real world without it creeping onto the forum!
Hmmm haven't had a good rant for a while, not sure if that made as much sense as I hoped, but hey ho
S*d that FR... he's been proven guilty hasn't he!? The article is pretty damning. I've talked to a few people stung by TLG as well as an artist and it all seems clear cut. The more worrying thing is the censorship creeping in here, apart from this example haven't there been a few other disappearing posts/threads? If dodgy practices and shady dealers can't be discussed when there's clear evidence then it's a pretty sad world... and not to go on (but I will) it's even worse if it happens on here, a street/urban art forum where there's a lot of members particularly interested in how governments, multi-national organisations and elite barstewards get to manipulate and control our lives in the real world without it creeping onto the forum! Hmmm haven't had a good rant for a while, not sure if that made as much sense as I hoped, but hey ho
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by Harveyn on Nov 13, 2012 21:16:44 GMT 1, I agree AP.
I am personally not aware of the posts that were deleted or their content.
Hard to talk in a vacuum but I generally do not believe in censorship provided comments are not sexiest, racist, bigoted, homophobic, bullying in nature or overtly insulting towards an individual or group of people.
I am certainly in favour of warning forum members of previous bad experiences in dealing with individuals or organizations provided none of the above applies.
On the question of libellous comments I have no idea whether the administrator of this forum or indeed the moderators are vicariously liable for any such comments made if left in the public domain.
Perhaps whoever deleted the posts could brief the membership of this forum as to the reasons why? I am positive that they were deleted for all the right reasons.
I agree AP.
I am personally not aware of the posts that were deleted or their content.
Hard to talk in a vacuum but I generally do not believe in censorship provided comments are not sexiest, racist, bigoted, homophobic, bullying in nature or overtly insulting towards an individual or group of people.
I am certainly in favour of warning forum members of previous bad experiences in dealing with individuals or organizations provided none of the above applies.
On the question of libellous comments I have no idea whether the administrator of this forum or indeed the moderators are vicariously liable for any such comments made if left in the public domain.
Perhaps whoever deleted the posts could brief the membership of this forum as to the reasons why? I am positive that they were deleted for all the right reasons.
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by ABC on Nov 13, 2012 21:46:38 GMT 1, Had a post deleted, not sure why, as i mentioned nothing against anyone, WTF is going on, bloody madness. Yes, derogatory comments and slander on social networking sites is now seen in the same light as in the work place; however, if it offends then action can be taken against particular individuals, don't just block delete posts that are not liked and without any warnings whatsoever. There will be no comeback as it's all fact.
Had a post deleted, not sure why, as i mentioned nothing against anyone, WTF is going on, bloody madness. Yes, derogatory comments and slander on social networking sites is now seen in the same light as in the work place; however, if it offends then action can be taken against particular individuals, don't just block delete posts that are not liked and without any warnings whatsoever. There will be no comeback as it's all fact.
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by nex on Nov 13, 2012 21:48:55 GMT 1, I guess we have Brooksie's bs post to thank for the over the top censorship - still the connection holds true and is a matter for the record (renting from said gallery and the sharing of artworks)
And I won't be using them.
I guess we have Brooksie's bs post to thank for the over the top censorship - still the connection holds true and is a matter for the record (renting from said gallery and the sharing of artworks)
And I won't be using them.
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by craigf on Nov 13, 2012 22:40:30 GMT 1, Two out of three of my posts have been deleted, might as well delete the last one myself as without context of the first two it reads out of context
Two out of three of my posts have been deleted, might as well delete the last one myself as without context of the first two it reads out of context
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by manty on Nov 13, 2012 22:42:10 GMT 1, Two out of three of my posts have been deleted, might as well delete the last one myself as without context of the first two it reads out of context
true, you sound like a right nutter
Two out of three of my posts have been deleted, might as well delete the last one myself as without context of the first two it reads out of context true, you sound like a right nutter
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by Deleted on Nov 13, 2012 22:51:00 GMT 1, Is this the secret code speak we agreed on?^^^. Fred is in the tin, he needs bacon and a sock, its warm in here, mammy mammy tear down those curtains and slice a crab up.
Is this the secret code speak we agreed on?^^^. Fred is in the tin, he needs bacon and a sock, its warm in here, mammy mammy tear down those curtains and slice a crab up.
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by Sacked... on Nov 13, 2012 22:52:25 GMT 1, Did you enjoy your short 'holiday' wizz ?
Did you enjoy your short 'holiday' wizz ?
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by Deleted on Nov 13, 2012 22:54:15 GMT 1, Holiday?, oh i see, nooooooo im a permanenenenent guest now, unless i get banned.
Holiday?, oh i see, nooooooo im a permanenenenent guest now, unless i get banned.
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by ABC on Nov 13, 2012 22:57:29 GMT 1, Hi wizz - grey dog on oak bench at three PM
Hi wizz - grey dog on oak bench at three PM
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by Deleted on Nov 13, 2012 23:01:05 GMT 1, WOW... WTF
All my measured and honest, truthful posts in praise of Mike gone!
& my equally scathing and condemning posts about about James removed.
WHY...?
This will not reflect well on those involved on the forum or gallery.
Why hide from the truth...
WOW... WTF All my measured and honest, truthful posts in praise of Mike gone! & my equally scathing and condemning posts about about James removed. WHY...? This will not reflect well on those involved on the forum or gallery. Why hide from the truth...
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by craigf on Nov 13, 2012 23:03:50 GMT 1, Two out of three of my posts have been deleted, might as well delete the last one myself as without context of the first two it reads out of context true, you sound like a right nutter
I try to emulate you Manty, getting better at it, but some way to go still
Two out of three of my posts have been deleted, might as well delete the last one myself as without context of the first two it reads out of context true, you sound like a right nutter I try to emulate you Manty, getting better at it, but some way to go still
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by .dappy on Nov 13, 2012 23:23:50 GMT 1,
What is the world coming to?
*Free the Posts*
What is the world coming to?
*Free the Posts*
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by Deleted on Nov 14, 2012 2:14:22 GMT 1, Hi wizz - grey dog on oak bench at three PM
Spotted and potted.
Hi wizz - grey dog on oak bench at three PM Spotted and potted.
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by brooksie82 on Nov 14, 2012 2:28:32 GMT 1, Still stands that Black Rat Press have rented the space from James Golding, someone who ripped off artists and collectors left right and center for ยฃ10k here and ยฃ20k there.
I won't be going to any BRP shows or buying anything from them if they continue to put 1 penny Goldings way, and will probably mention this on every BRP thred posted in the future, anything that supports that crook is wrong. Sad as I liked them, they knew how to put on a good show.
Still stands that Black Rat Press have rented the space from James Golding, someone who ripped off artists and collectors left right and center for ยฃ10k here and ยฃ20k there.
I won't be going to any BRP shows or buying anything from them if they continue to put 1 penny Goldings way, and will probably mention this on every BRP thred posted in the future, anything that supports that crook is wrong. Sad as I liked them, they knew how to put on a good show.
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by Mister Frame Man on Nov 14, 2012 9:47:10 GMT 1, Think we deserve an explaination as to why this thread has been manipulated!
Would you rather I say I didn't get taken for 10k? Or say that I forgive him and would happily shake his hand?
Think we deserve an explaination as to why this thread has been manipulated!
Would you rather I say I didn't get taken for 10k? Or say that I forgive him and would happily shake his hand?
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by anbesivam1 on Nov 14, 2012 10:14:52 GMT 1, Think we deserve an explaination as to why this thread has been manipulated! Would you rather I say I didn't get taken for 10k? Or say that I forgive him and would happily shake his hand?
Dear MM,
Terrible to hear about your losses. Did the police / legal system help you with recovering the money lost?
Think we deserve an explaination as to why this thread has been manipulated! Would you rather I say I didn't get taken for 10k? Or say that I forgive him and would happily shake his hand? Dear MM, Terrible to hear about your losses. Did the police / legal system help you with recovering the money lost?
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by Graffiti Prints on Nov 14, 2012 10:45:18 GMT 1, Think we deserve an explaination as to why this thread has been manipulated! Would you rather I say I didn't get taken for 10k? Or say that I forgive him and would happily shake his hand? Dear MM, Terrible to hear about your losses. Did the police / legal system help you with recovering the money lost? if its a ltd company you can walk away from your debts. i was surprised he was not struck off from being a director in the future as they acquired stock when they knew the game was over for the company which is very wrong and illegal. but it depends if he was reported and if the administrator's (who are the biggest crooks pay them self's first etc) reported him. it was all very shady
Think we deserve an explaination as to why this thread has been manipulated! Would you rather I say I didn't get taken for 10k? Or say that I forgive him and would happily shake his hand? Dear MM, Terrible to hear about your losses. Did the police / legal system help you with recovering the money lost? if its a ltd company you can walk away from your debts. i was surprised he was not struck off from being a director in the future as they acquired stock when they knew the game was over for the company which is very wrong and illegal. but it depends if he was reported and if the administrator's (who are the biggest crooks pay them self's first etc) reported him. it was all very shady
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by kel on Nov 14, 2012 16:24:32 GMT 1, Does the deletion of posts slightly take away the purpose of a forum. Which allows people within an environment to express their own personal views.
As for using libelous comments I would be interested to see how for example JG could defend himself in a court of law against what is being discussed on this forum. If he requests action against Slanderous comments that have been made against him then he would indeed have to prove they are incorrect. As those people that have been affected by his actions in the past are baying for answers and blood. I would say it is unlikely he would take this path.
Only my two penneth worth.
Does the deletion of posts slightly take away the purpose of a forum. Which allows people within an environment to express their own personal views.
As for using libelous comments I would be interested to see how for example JG could defend himself in a court of law against what is being discussed on this forum. If he requests action against Slanderous comments that have been made against him then he would indeed have to prove they are incorrect. As those people that have been affected by his actions in the past are baying for answers and blood. I would say it is unlikely he would take this path.
Only my two penneth worth.
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by Deleted on Nov 14, 2012 19:51:00 GMT 1, Think we deserve an explaination as to why this thread has been manipulated! Would you rather I say I didn't get taken for 10k? Or say that I forgive him and would happily shake his hand?
Waiting..........
Think we deserve an explaination as to why this thread has been manipulated! Would you rather I say I didn't get taken for 10k? Or say that I forgive him and would happily shake his hand? Waiting..........
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by .dappy on Nov 14, 2012 22:55:09 GMT 1, ^ what he said
^ what he said
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by Mister Frame Man on Nov 14, 2012 23:19:42 GMT 1, Think we deserve an explaination as to why this thread has been manipulated! Would you rather I say I didn't get taken for 10k? Or say that I forgive him and would happily shake his hand? Waiting..........
Think we will be waiting a while!
All too quick to act but not so quick to explain why!
Think we deserve an explaination as to why this thread has been manipulated! Would you rather I say I didn't get taken for 10k? Or say that I forgive him and would happily shake his hand? Waiting.......... Think we will be waiting a while! All too quick to act but not so quick to explain why!
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by brooksie82 on Nov 15, 2012 5:29:33 GMT 1, Silky's pretty good at just ignoring peoples pleas for an explanation to why comments were deleted, its a good way of dealing with it in my opinion.
Silky's pretty good at just ignoring peoples pleas for an explanation to why comments were deleted, its a good way of dealing with it in my opinion.
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by balibob on Nov 15, 2012 10:46:28 GMT 1, From his facebook photo I would guess Dan is in Thailand at the moment, he could very well be slightly distracted.
From his facebook photo I would guess Dan is in Thailand at the moment, he could very well be slightly distracted.
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by brooksie82 on Nov 15, 2012 13:33:47 GMT 1, From his facebook photo I would guess Dan is in Thailand at the moment, he could very well be slightly distracted.
Not distracted enough to go through threds deleating content though it seems.
From his facebook photo I would guess Dan is in Thailand at the moment, he could very well be slightly distracted. Not distracted enough to go through threds deleating content though it seems.
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Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity, by Deleted on Nov 15, 2012 14:45:40 GMT 1, From his facebook photo I would guess Dan is in Thailand at the moment, he could very well be slightly distracted. Not distracted enough to go through threds deleating content though it seems.
you wouldnt be surprised to know that others have the means and agenda to delete other peoples posts
From his facebook photo I would guess Dan is in Thailand at the moment, he could very well be slightly distracted. Not distracted enough to go through threds deleating content though it seems. you wouldnt be surprised to know that others have the means and agenda to delete other peoples posts
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